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Art, they could give a bigger percent to BKMP, but what motivation do they have if they could keep the proceeds for themselves in the private company? That question is what keeps the pps sown here in the basement.
If the email is real, the problem is not whether BKMP owns 20% of TFN, but rather how much of TFN funding came from selling BKMP stock? Probably 100%, diluting us down to the current pps. Expectations of getting a larger stake in TFN to repay the large portion of funding is a dream.
Could the buyout talk relate to the divvys being a poison pill to prevent a premature takeover by one of the guys discussed tonight?
You guys are funny - not in a good way! This guy J4K posts that he is a young kid and you rip into him for being worthless. This is an INTERNET message board - he could just as well have claimed to be a retired billionaire CEO of a fortune 500 and have insider info. that UWNK will run to 100 bucks per share, and it wouldn't make a bit of difference on what is really happening with this company. I bought UWNK because I met Nolan many years ago and then he was a really genuine guy, and I wanted to own one stock that was headed by a guy who isn't a sleazy scammer. But none of us knows where this company will go - it is just a good bet IMHO.
nice thought, Mike, Now if only the IRS, my creditors and my landlord would do the same then I wouldn't have to worry about the cash flow myself....LOL.
So you think BKMP should run tomorrow after the tv coverage? Should have reached alot of folks, but will they connect it to BKMP.
There are already several local stations showing outdoor content as well as lots of real estate ads. I don't watch them but I will check what stations they are and post it tonight. ( I think it's channels 11, 12, 16, 18 and 19)
Plum TV is NOT on the summus van - Backcountry TV is on the van. Plum is one of the local stations already on the air here.
I gave up on this some time ago, but if anyone is interested I saw a Summus Works minivan with Vermont plates driving down main street in Aspen this morning. It also said BackCountry TV on it - and there are now 3 local commercial stations and one public station on the local tv cable. There is Plum TV, RSN and another small local one. I wonder what they are up to - I didn't recognize the driver and the dark windows obscured the others.
Cosmo, You are supposed to be such an insightful investor, and yet you throw out this dismissive remark to me? Has TFN taken BKMP money to get going? Has BKMP provided most if not all funding? Did SW have any money to start with, or has it ALL come from BKMP? Yet we get no profits (not that there are any) but only benefit SOMEDAY if TFN is sold? This was not the deal when I bought in, and these were not the promises and hints given out back then. Maybe it has become "not the best investment for me" - you darn right at this pps, Is it a good investment for you? Any more smart remarks you want to send my way????????
We have webprods saying we will become millionaries when the pps goes down to .0002, and the newsletter comes out about TFN but the connection between TFN and BKMP is still murky. What the heck is going on here?
I just don't like the volitility he brings in with his group. Prefer a steady growth without flipping.
I hate it when Lebed tricks around with a stock. Okay if it is a POS, but not with a real company.
Hi Dart, are you buying at the .0003? Getting ready for another run?
Someone please paint it back to 2.70 - that would look prettier!
Is that the thundering hooves of the Uwink pony running to the HOD?
Who wanted this to trade? Are you happy now- down to .0003.
One way to keep the price from falling from .0004 is to have no trades.
OMG, when did we lose Seabiscuit? Why?
okay, their 38 million to our 13 billion, adjust their 3.00 and you get over .006 pps. That wouldn't be so bad.
Some claim to be getting filled, but I just took one for the team and bought a bit more at the ask. Got filled instantly.
Someone is going "DELETE" crazy over here - can't even follow the conversations!
Are you on the wrong board? What are you talking about or who is this directed to? Seems you are the one who is off-topic.
Someone seems willing to buy at this point - anyone think there is hope for the patent saving the co?
wish I had more of this and less of that.LOL
BMO, it is not a good sign for us - BKMP is Sandy's deal and Mike owns the PRIVATE company. If he cared about the PPS we wouldn't be in this hole right now.
Art, I don't think they have been agreeing for along time now. Mikey is done getting the $$$ he needs and soesn't need us dummies or Sandy anymore. Too bad it's too late for us to get out with much.
When I met Nolan a million years ago at the PizzaTime theater puppet factory he was running around with a video camera talking to all the employees and visitors and very available and a great guy. I assume he still is - what a concept to buy stock in a company where the ceo is not a jerk! (I also own BKMP, unfortunately, and as a contrast to this!)
Some just have a policy of sell on the news, no matter how good they have to flip. Hope it is over soon so we keep the up trend.
Right now it sure looks like it! And it's too late to get out with anything to salvage for us fools. What do you think this looks like?
JMO: Some have questioned why Mike Garrow would be in business with Sandy - With his reputation for ruining companies. Well, imagine Sandy comes to Mike with this deal: set up BKMP, sell shares, prodeeds go to TFN the private company owned by Mike and Sandy, once all the potential funds have been squeezed out of BKMP, just let BKMP die from dilution and neglect while the private company is a big success only for Mike and Sandy.
Ranzy, IMO, good pr's don't help because Sandy has a bad rep. for messing up companies with phony divvisand dilution, so until he can show good faith here and declare how TFN will reward BKMP that has funded all the wonderful things TFN has done, we will be stuck.
This is just getting weirder by the minute. Sandy sends out emails to a few of you with short quips that sound like he doesn't have a clue, and then some better explanations of the preferreds that he hasn't been willing to PR. Is it really Sandy? Does he know how bad his rep. is being bashed around, and is any of that true (other boards more than here- more details of his past business). Is he trying to hold on to some credibility? You guys don't know how much trouble we could be in here.
Just as we get volume it down-ticks?
Wow, what's up with the volume just now?
What is up with a 10 cent spread 1.30-1.50?
Sandy should do alot, but according to what posters here stated, Sandy told them to take action through their brokers. We all know that we can't get action out of etrade, or the other on-line which most of us have. The brokers are the offenders, so how would they be the ones to take care of the prefs. Sandy may have had a strategy,b ut it looks like it failed.
You mean the reference to the Nov. 3 announcement of "Chico" joining TFN as an announcer? Not what I call new news, dude. Getting desperate?
what pr? what does it say????
Unless you believe in Santa, you guys are kidding yourselves if you think that s or m have money to buy back shares. They used the proceeds from billions of shares to fund TFN. If another funding source came in, they would take a piece of ownership AWAY from shareholders - there isn't any free money that buys back shares and gives it to us sucker "Spartans". If there is any hope at all, s and m better give us the news before we bottom out at .0001 or drop out to "NO BID". No, I am not buying at these bargain prices, as I don't have any more funds either, so this is not some good news buying opp.!!!!!