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here is your answer...
you can't put aside past history and shady business practices...
that is why there is underfunding and also why no major company will touch this with a 10 foot pole....
how much effort was really put in manufacturing, go back to pr's in november of 2014 and then tell me if they have hit their deadlines...
how much money has been put on product, packaging, etc...I wonder...
need to see a product first and some real numbers from vois....
I thought china was the way to go to cut costs in manufacturing, etc...
the amazon distribution, hmm...have to see that but so far from what I have researched on amazon their is no mention of vois, mindsolutions or neurosnyc for product launches...wow....
there is a reason for the 5 billion share increase, to sell more shares...
If vois was so confident of the product there would have not been such an increase in shares...
It seems that vois upon increasing share levels already anticipates dismal sales....
so keep buying and enjoy the value of your investment....
where is the top tier marketing firm...
probably in the caymans sipping margaritas...
there hasn't been a lot of extra work put into vois and the launch...
check out the website,the security protocols and paypal...
good luck on your investment fouch
Even if a device comes out, without some credible source to confirm if device actually works would there be any significant sales...
as it stands there is only a pr by mind solutions ir guru that there is around 100 pre-orders by shareholders...
going by the performance of said ir mind solutions rep...
well that's very questionable...
I guess maybe another 8 to 12 weeks before any device actually lands on someone's tree, just in time for xmas....
go vois....
Vois's Christmas present to shareholders....
you got it reverse split.....5 to 1
Wow...
changes and updates to something revolutionary...website...paypal...
you are critiquing the emotive launch yet the neurosync hasn't even launched yet either, that's humorous...
who knows when the neurosync will actually be available yet....
you should compare when one or the other comes out...lmao, my bet is on emotiv...
let's see product availability end of month...
maybe, but note due also then, any ideas oN the pr then....
when do you think this top tier marketing firm will begin marketing something....hmmm...end of month, note conversion...
really looking forward to that amazon launch, don't see that happening...maybe you should check out amazon and upcoming product releases,let me know if you see neurosync or mindsolutions anywhere in the next six months....I can't....lmao
Yes needs a lot of corrections on website, especially for something so revolutionary, maybe a little more security, something realistic besides paypal..
Really...
making changes to website..
click a link and it takes to you too something totally different...
launch of what, the pr was just to mask the note converting, hence the pps crash...
the top tier marketing firm was top-notch today as you can see..
anyone even remotely trying g to order a device today ended up ordering tic-tac-throw...lmao
Yes can see someone really doing some real DD...
The only thing that will end up wearing this blinking light will be the tree at xmas....
Running out of that extra 5 billion shares in no time...
then the almighty reverse split soon after...
rinse, repeat the vois way...good luck longs, you definately need it with the awareness and marketing happening now...
Good luck on the Amazon thing,just some simple searches and neurosync is nada on or mentioned as an upcoming product...lmao
WHY??
Because with every pr, there is a note conversion and dilution...basically timed with the pr to shadow the shares being converted into market...
Hence our pr rep Casey burt ir guru knows when notes are coming and dispenses pr's to mask the toxic dilution....
Funny that amazon.Com has nothing on mindsolutions on it's website or acknowledgement of it being set to distribute...
it's been an hour since last trade...
did vois get halted....???
or did they meet their 10 billion shares already
if they had a top tier marketing firm..
It would be marketing and displaying the neurostink device...
the reason for the pr today and past pr's is to cover the notes and conversions, the constant dilution....
otherwise pps would be moving up not down...hence pps levels...
my opinion is most of the positive boardmembers are actually associated with whoever is converting the shares, whereas the positive outlook on vois to enhance buying and make you feel good about it...
whoever is buying on the top notch marketing going on here I truly feel for you.....
My opinion also is casey burt who puts out the pr's knows when notes are due, are converting and times pr's to them which in my opinion is highly suspectful...
what type of IR person does that.....
so why no marketing or true PR going on...
well
enjoy the dilution,there is a reason for another 5 billion authorized shares....
it's rolling thru the conversions today...lmao
no worries,pr just for the note and dilution that's flowing through today...
typical vois play time pr's with notes and conversions, definate share selling...
what happened to the big time marketing player...well just look at the note going thru....
good luck all...
go vois
Cruxen.....
welcome to the world of stocks....
like i said young lady anyone under $1.50 is trapped....lmao
Fxcm moving on up....
news out soon birds are chirping
cruxen,
while still unable to make an adequate valuation of FXCM...
let's see where FXCM stands....
the greek debacle is comparable to the swiss swoon...
sorry cruxen far off...
FXCm has and other forex trading platforms have instituted measures and controls if such an event were to happen...
regardless, the greek debacle is highly publicized, and highly followed...
so most traders in this bloc are watching it closely....lmao
the delisting from the 600 will create a sell-off for FXCM...
again misinformed with the sell/buys in Block trades it is very visible that institutions have sold/bought shares to the appropriate portfolios...lmao
only a inexperienced trader would have missed that...well enough said on that...
the citi accounts don't amount to anything....lmao
Well citi accounts have begun trading today and with the greek debacle FXCM can expect a huge jump in metrics...lmao
FXCM is making money hand over fist with the GReek playout....
FXCM has class action suits against them...
again these will amount to nothing and there is talk that there may be some class action suits against them for misrepresentation...how funny...
once again the short interest under $1.50 is trapped and the smart ones will cover soon....
FXCM is moving forward and FXCM about to make a push upward, for the short interest caught below, welcome to the long board....
again birds are chirping, expect huge news soon...
alot of birds chirping....
looks like maybe shorts are trying to cover, yet been hearing some chirps that institutions are loading big time....
todays volume is evident that something is in the wind...
short interest ready to capitulate and monday will be a interesting day....
birds are flocking everywhere and tweeting...
FXCM may come out with news shortly ,with the citi migration and white label sale with rakuten yes( cruxen ) revenues coming in....
all this good for FXCM....
FXCM moving forward and moving on up.......
shorts are going to have a long weekend.......
my opinion is that something is going to pop soon....
usually when pps is held in place like it has been is when a sale is about to go thru....
we may hear of a non-core sale soon and not a small one...
it may also be that FXCM may be acquiring something also,
the channeled trading and upward pressure is hinting at something...
meanwhile the greek bailout is creating a lot of trading in the forex world...
with the migration of Citi forex to FXCM on friday metrics should look outstanding in july...
short interest has been rolling out almost everything to drive pps down...
in my opinion anyone short under $1.50 now is trapped and I expect the smart ones will cover before Friday...
will the greeks take a deal....yes, but meanwhile FXCM is making money hand over fist with the greek deal...
short interest having a hard time keeping pps down, don't see a lot of selling pressure here...
ambulance chasing and special interest analyst downgrades...lmao...
why is the battle at the $1.60 range....
news coming soon, accumulation is highly visible....
short interest in my opinion about to capitulate, any under $1.50 will be caught in the trap.....
birds are chirping everywhere....
cruxen what happened???
Looks like some movement now....
monday won't be here short enough...
birds chirping....
fxcm make a nice big move monday....
hey crux have a nice weekend...
get some rest.....
Newsflash...
quote...call it what you want but last I looked it was undoubtedly higher than a $1....lmao...
it looks to me like a short term for the short interest...undoubtedly...
Love those calls, great for long term...
CALL it what you want...some know how to play the market...
some just stuck in the weeds...
fxcm moving up, doesn't want to stay PUT....
I'll CALL you on that...lmao
Three days down, only one day to bring it back up...lmao
Good luck on your trade...
FXCM moving up...
fxcm moving forward....
Stay PUT with the day traders, going to love monday...
birds are chirping...
i'll take my luck with
Alperburcin9988
you seem to be batting zero cruxen....lmao
Fxcm green and moving forward...
Just to make a point cruxen...
IN fact with FXCM 328 million cash in hand...
That is actually an increase over the sept. of 2014 of 326 million....
also taking into account that though fxcm lost in area of 400 million then received loan for 300 million with interest and managed to pay 82 million of that loan back...
managed to buy citi forex accounts...
yet still have 328 million on hand which is an increase over sept. 2014...
sorry not seeing the steady decrease here..
Yet have to say sorry again as mr. Niv can't make up numbers and toss them out to make fxcm look good..
that's a otc disc jockey thinking there...
no fxcm Financials are done by a firm and sec compliant....lmao
So no spin master there....
fxcm moving on up...
oh did I say that a sale may be announced soon...maybe not....
cruxen I know that young ladies have it tough in the corporate world...
but it's getting better....
Lmao cruxen...
For one whose inability to give a clear present valuation it is so evident...
of course you always use the outdated irelevant figures...
Lmao selling out shareholders...that be the case there wouldn't be any...in fact it's looking like fxcm is accumulating some....lmao...
Good luck on your Greek hypothesis...
you really need to do some more homework...
I heard that credit suisse may be looking to downsize the investment banking part,a little birdie says forex....
But who knows, citi was a surprise...
yes bottom line bringing profit to fxcm...
Yes revenues are growing citi accounts migrating....
white label agreement with rakuten....
Yes the profits are good and the $2 to $3 quote is solid...
You can't even do a simple valuation let alone understand the market cap...
I'm wondering who the otc disk jockey is...
someone stuck in the weeds....
pt $5.71....
love those daytraders...
Lmao...cruxen...
Stocks go up and down...
Otc jockeys,well go figure,now that you mention it, haven't you been just kinda popped in lately...
like I said some belong in otc..
oh that's your quote by the way about the otc jockey...
yes volume is good,seems like you kinda sad it's so low and channeling...
oh that $1 so close but .52 cents away....lmao...
let's see that valuation...
Loss avoidance is in the inability of the short interest to drive down pps....
I hear a lot of calls going to change hands soon....
Birds are chirping again tonite,flocks are growing....lmao
Lol cruxen....
now we know that that decrease in shares was sell-off from jan...
hence the 3/31 totals...
balances will be forthcoming soon...lmao...
the funny thing is looking at new positions Jeffries llc...lmao...
Whereas you still haven't figured market cap yet and the accumulation over the last month....
While there has been a decrease in positions,others have also began new positions...
the problem you are having cruxen is that there is accumulation and your inability to actually come up with a valuation of fxcm presently..
Overall pt $5.71....
Waiting on a present valuation of fxcm,I see Katz is quiet...
accumulation,institutional increasing...lmao....
market cap tells a lot....
price target 5.71...
Yes
$1.52...
did you notice that the market cap has shrunk....
are institutions really accumulating???
Cruxen....lol
So did you come up with a current valuation, what is the pps supposed to be....
yes request is there,legal terms that can mean a lot....lmao..
so what is the red herring???
But wait what is market cap now.???
I'll make it simple for you, from yahoo..
77.08 million
Pps is $1.52
Well to answer his question for you, just yahoo it...
fxcm current valuation cruxen, I know you know it come on...
still haven't read the amended letters have you....???
Time...Tick-tock...
Cruxen hasn't really done any real dd...
some may think that by piling on short interest will make a company tremble....
yet fxcm thrives on this kind of trading...
the more shorts the more fuel for the rocket ride up...
Why channeled trading??
why are shares hard to come by....
Why so many daytraders...
Why institutions accumulating...
Why more retail coming in??
Demand....time....something short interest doesn't have...
Goodnight my friend...
news coming soon....partner....
Well just to make a note...
l know cruxen never had any puts...
I know that you know that also...
just to answer his question before he asks...lmao
how did I know???stuck in the weeds he is...
Regardless he has yet to even make a simple valuation...
overall pt is $5.71...crussen hates seeing that...lol...
Anyways fxcm pps is $1.52 now and yet he cannot explain why it isn't trading at $1 yet...
cruxen cannot explain why institutions are accumulating..
cannot explain why fxcm shares are so hard to borrow for short interest..
cannot explain why retail customers are coming to fxcm..
cannot explain why there are so many day traders lately...lmao..
cannot explain the channeled trading.
Cruxen wants someone to do that for him...understandable...
something that simple...
Time....fxcm....something short interest doesn't have....Time....lmao
Crussen problem is his citi favorite Katz all of a sudden is chill on his valuation of fxcm...
cruxen has no one to do his legwork...lmao, well he never really had no one...stuck in the weeds...lmao
Cruxen cannot even do a valuation of fxcm presently...
shorts are in trouble and they know it...
they have been hoping for fake selloffs and ambulance chasers to drive pps down...not happening...up, down,up down....
takes fxcm 2 days to take pps up 40%...
Takes short interest what 2 weeks to take it down...lmao...
fxcm has time...shorts don't
I am sure you can find out somehow....lmao
Did you not answer the question???
it was not for me....
Like I said do your own DD, it's really helped you out so far...
last I saw it was .52 above your $1 valuation...
oops forgot you cannot do a valuation on fxcm presently as yahoo finance hasn't updated yet...
I am sure pretty soon though...but it maybe different than what you think...
overall pt is $5.71....
I'd ask how your puts are doing but both you and I know you never had any...
Loving the word partner, that will come up a lot in next couple of weeks...
fxcm moving forward,valuation has changed...
what was up with the big buys today..,
a lot of activity on water st. in New York City today...
Anyways crusen I know you expect everyone to do your DD for you, I know yahoo is lagging sorry...
citi accounts migrating on June 26, as you can see by metrics some have already moved...other retail coming in...my what metrics, oh so good...
let's see you do a valuation crussen, fxcm presently,then we'll see who really is knowledgeable...
didn't think so....lol
As I have said crussen, do your own DD and you'll see in the filings and other informative avenues...
sorry if not everyone wants to do your DD for you...
but i am sure yahoo finance has it....
someone knows the answer crussen, but you have to do some DD to get it..
Yes you was incorrect and Mr wow has pointed that out for you...lol
just some simple google searches and you will find your answers...
crusen...lmao...
this is a forum board and not a personal email account page...
Quote...
But the question was not for me, Mr. wow.
should be the question was for me...
I am sure GREEN wasn't caught with his pants down, seems like someone else was
doesn't matter whether it was for you or any other...
you got your question answered and like usual, you have been shown that you are incorrect on your findings....lol
yahoo finance and seeking alpha i can see isn't keeping you correctly informed....
sorry you haven't figured out that this isn't your private message board...
if you want exact numbers you should look at filings and other informative avenues....
again
(quote)
there was 4 more added....do your own DD...
Request, important word....
also may change over time....
nowhere is it stated that to force sale...
there are many misinterpretations....
I stand by what I have stated....
I understand the language in the letters and amended letters...
YET REGARDLESS, jan. 2018 is almost 3 years from now and whatever is left in Newco at that time will only be scraps....lmao
Fxcm moving forward....
overall pt $5.71...
I know some are choking on that....so sorry...
fxcm valuation changing...11 am shareholders meeting....
you going to be there?.?
I will be
Crusen clearly you haven't read the amended letters and then when you do you would understand what luk, really has a right to...
still waiting on your valuation of FXCM presently....
you clearly don't understand that what is said on yahoo,seeking alpha,and publicly also doesn't apply to what is filed...lmao
CFO also didn't confirm that luk can sell fxcm....
the statement is leucadia can request it's right...
but the request also applies to certain obligations and provisions if loan not repaid...Newco...
I understand if someone can't read and has to rely on what they think they heard and then make erroneous decisions based on that...
let's see a valuation.... $5.71 is the overall pt...
fxcm valuation changing again today....
wait for it....
8 am chime comes early
not much in the movement of sales or buys today....
vois still unable to present any media awareness or functionality of it's device...
launch is supposedly a little over a month from now, but also expect delays further, which vois is consistent with delays..
vois is also consistent with not being able to produce any realtime functionality of device and no data from any third party beta -testers..
vois also consistent with dilution and note conversions, hence no real movement on buys and sells today...
overall pt $5.71
you are incorrect crusen, like you are consistently...
one you haven't read amended letters correctly...lmao..
even with your incorrect language (quote )
the trigger sale of, actually is a request to trigger sale of...
and in the language of the amended letters it refers to Newco which holds the assets of the non-core entities, etc...
i know you haven't read them or understand them completely, but that is ok.....
you've yet to come up with a valuation of $1 which should be easy with your arguments, but have yet to actually explain....
how are the fundamentals of FXCM,why and how are they dismal????
yes everything pertains to the loan repayment, sorry if you can't read or understand the letters and amended letters of agreement adequately..
one suggestion is to not rely entirely on yahoo finance and seeking alpha...
let's see you come up with FXCMs proper valuation....
pt $5.71
going to blow right by that $1.75,
pt $5.71 FXCM moving forward
still waiting on your $1 dollar valuation...
you just can't seem to spin it...
I like how you use (quotes)
go from one subject to another which has no bearing...
It's not about the $5.71 valuation, it's beeeen about your inability to actually form a $1 valuation presently...
( Quote )
hence why citys forex accounts were handed to FXCM....
Name one brokerage, please, which has a 5.71 pt on FXCM...Just one will do.
what part is not even close??????????
well instead of trying to reverse attention from you to me, answer the original question and let's see your $1 valuation of FXCM presently...
I don't know anything, that's why I am asking you...
can you please show me how you get the $1 valuation..?????
pretty obvious there is someone here besides me who don't know anything, don't you think????
as far as city and it's valuation of FXCM, right hand not knowing what the left hand is doing....that's pretty obvious also....
price rigging and scandals abound in city...
hence why citys forex accounts were handed to FXCM....
still unable to get that $1 valuation, maybe because it's not Jan. 2018 yet...
maybe because FXCM hasn't paid off 120 million of loan yet....
just can't wrapp my head around that $1 valuation....
all I keep getting is $5.71....
help me out will you???
FXCM is very grateful to city for the forex accounts and revenues...
FXCM also would like to be invited back to some of those company events...
I mean well why not???FXCM owns the forex accounts now...lmao...
why have a prime broker when you can have everything handed to you??? anonymously that is
and citi is santa claus...
look at the present it just handed over to FXCM...
I'll credit city with that, a fine box of forex accounts, wrapped nicely because of Katz.....lmao
FXCM valuation changing, I'll put a mighty face on that...
all american, green all the way..the dollar is FXCM's friend...
crusen why can't you even back up a valuation of $1...
everyone knows that james brown is selling..
but to whom????
it's a matter of record with the SEC...james brown selling...
it's everywhere, I didn't know that????my bad
you aren't even putting out any real info that can't be found on yahoo..
I can't get the $1 valuation and would like you to show me how you got it...
I mean with FXCM presently, with the citi forex accounts, the white label agreement with rakuten...
the sale of non-core assets about to be finalized...
when maybe this week huh???? who knows, not me....lol
so fill me in on something I don't know like how to get a $1 valuation of FXCM presently...
citi accounts...
white label agreement with Rakuten...
120 million loan payoff to date with the Rakuten sale...
what other payments have been made on loan not yet made public...hmmmm....
non-core assets in Newco to be sold....
I need help in getting a dollar valuation...
I just don't know...
lmao....
the only comeback you can come up with is ( Quote )
I know you don't know. A lot of things.
I guess I really don't know anything....my bad...
that's why I was kinda hoping you could help me out....
I mean I have been all over yahoo finance and darn IHUB came out with a report on FXCM the other day...
I just can't get a wrap on a proper valuation of FXCM presently...
Why is the overall pt $5.71 and not a dollar....
I was hoping you could show me, maybe fill me in, how do you get a dollar pt on FXCM right now??????hmmmm....
maybe you could show me how that valuation comes up....????
Like I said and was( QUOTED )
not sure about the partnership with citi you are referring to...
how bout showing me what I don't know????
boy someone correcting someone elses spelling who also has a hard time spelling...
somewhat distacted by that, i remember distraction being spelled with an r also....but no mattter....
not sure about the partnership with citi you are referring to but I do know that FXCM and credit suisse were partnered up with fastmatch...
citi may not rate FXCM as high as the average $5.71 overall is it....
I'm sorry crusen if citi is so far off....maybe that is why it is paying huge fines and being implemented in more scandals and price rigging...
funny citi price rigging and analyst downgrades...
funny how citi downgraded FXCM which ultimately led to such a ridiculous price that citi sold it's forex accounts to FXCM for....
the forex landscape is changing, oh my...
I wouldn't be surprised if analyst like Katz in the near future move onto something else...maybe already in the works...hmmmm
wait for it....
overall sorry to say, city may have a .75 pt on FXCM, others may have a $1.00 pt on FXCM, but overall sad to say the price target is $5.71
OH but wait don't metrics come out soon....????
isn't the shareholder meeting this week????
as far as I can see Katz isn't so accurate as pps is at $1.59....
I see someone trying to break out of the otc and it isn't FXCM...
So what is your recent valuation of FXCM????
I've looked on yahoo finance and have seen no new news....
what is left in NEWCO????
How much of loan is paid so far ???
well we know of at least 120 million with the Rakuten sale, yeah white label...REVENUES,EQUITY...
we know that citi forex accounts are migrating over on june 26th>>>>REVENUE,EQUITY galore.....
yeah FXCM had it's share of scandals, but citi just seems to be consistent in creating more....lmao...
city and FXCM in partnership, well that would be a conflict of interest with an analyst.....but city is scandalous...
FXCM valuation changed my friend....
FXCM valuation changing again in morning....
birds chirping....flocking together....
wow...
who completed the beta testing????
I see that prototypes are included in this pr....
yet vois has failed to show up for any tech. conferences and forums with such prototypes.....How come????money...management can afford bonuses though correct..
so who beta tested the BCI device????
again words in a pr, no clear evidence of who beta tested, or if it was even beta-tested...
If vois was to provide credible evidence of the beta testing via the prototypes a comprehensive testing process on receiving the EEG signal, communicating via Bluetooth and successfully operating all compatible software...
who beta-tested the device.??? WHO ????
words in a pr and clearly no evidence or third party confirmation of beta-testing which is customary of beta-testing....WHO???????????
dilution,cash burn, bonuses,no clear evidence of device, working or non-working, words just in pr's....
reverse split coming, vois steadily converting shares and cash burning..
reverse split is the only option for vois going forward in order to dilute more shares....more bonuses..
the vois way...
Who beta tested the BCI device....?????????