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If the OSC had definitive proof that SLJB was a scam it would be immediately shared with the SEC and SLJB would have been halted
Nope, the SEC would not have, no market maker is making a market and investors have been warned, their mandate is fufilled, for now.......... This has been pointed out numerous times before.
Petar Vucicevich (AKA Peter Wolfe, Black Pete, Petar Vercicevich, Petar Painter)
-President of Kore International Petar Vercicevich
-Director General of Consultech Construction Management Inc
-Ex Director General of SLJB
-Consultant to SLJB
-(?EX) Secretary and Treasurer of Sulja building supplies LTD.(Ontario 2112174)
- Director of Kore International (Canada)
- Painter for Dante Capaldi homes
They do need someone to use the spellchecker as it seems to beyond the skills of IR. That is kinda high tech?
Where is the phantom building? As of last week sulja had no business license in Calgary (i checked) They better have one before they open :)
if there are fines or punishment it will be against an individual not the company
why would you say that? Sulja the company is named in the OSC action and the civil action. It is highly unlikely that SLJB will make it through this. Look at past similar actions CKYS is a good example where is the share price now?
What past information do you have to back the idea the company will be fine?
The financials have been touted in press releases at least 12 times in the past year, what makes now any different?
The OSC is not going to lift the trading ban in Ontario, they have made no indication of that at all. If anything it will be extended and another hearing date will be set on the 5th.
Why do you disagree? I believe that the negativity towards SLJB is very much deserved and backed by hard numbers and facts. Do you have some facts to back your positive view or is this just some random idea that you like?
When i form an opinion, I base it on past knowledge not just random ideas that i think sound good. It is valid to wonder why a person believes what they do. I constantly wonder what would bring about positive opinions of this company as all past deeds have a very bad smell. The company officers will not even put their names on Prs, the Prs are sophomoric, Management has shown itself to be totally untrustable, it goes on and on........
Why must the long investors always hear about how bad Sulja is supposedly going to come out of this?
Well go through prior investigations similar to this one and see what the end results tend towards and you will understand. When the OSC brings allegations like this out, they tend to be true and end very badly for the company involved. The same goes for civil actions. People do not go through all the work, money and time for no reason.
Never in my life did i expect to see Gordon Lightfoot on a stock board!
This was a recommendation from a great broker that was taken in, too, obviously
You _should_ talk to the NASD regarding that.
He was a painter, prior to being an "international CEO" his knick name was Petar Painter. That is a fact.
Chandler wants 1.5 million from SLJB and Drago has named Sulja Bros in its suit.
"01/18/2007 2 Summons Issued as to Peter Vucicevich, Steve Sulja, Andrew DeVries, Sulja Brothers Building Supplies, Ltd. (caw) (Entered: 01/18/2007)"
Check my site out that i just pmed you it is the most extensive public DD available on SLJB in one location.
One way or another I feel the company as a hole will survive as being a viable company with assets that will justify and reward the ones who now are in here STRONG AND LONG
What makes you think this? I believe that bankruptcy is more likely than anything. With all the civil actions as well as the regulatory investigations/actions. Disgorgement could put the out of business very easily i believe. They must be going through tons of cash to open a location in Calgary. (If they really are that is, as the location seems to be a secret) Sales are very likely weak as Windsor is Auto and manufacturing based and one of the most depressed areas in Canada.
gatorpuss has explained why NXNO and TRNP are both dying. Or you can dig through the filings.
"The final product is a fine powdery substance that costs $150 plus GST for a 30-gram bag"
That is way to expensive. At least on the island <100$ oz will get you primo stuff. Health Canada is getting gouged by their supplier.
Please make your case for RSDS and impress us rather than making shallow personal attacks.
TRSI looks pretty sad
http://www.trophyoil.com/Management.htm
the management team ( Eric Leonetti - Chief Operating Officer) consists of 1 man, his resume has some claims but no company names attached of course. Far from impressive.
The past news section is white on tan, seems they don't want you to be able to read about the past quite clever really. LOL
I do like the little moving pump jacks at the top of the page looks kinda cool!
Post on trsi board on the 13th about RSDS having something going on with trsi, some quite familiar names on the board also.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=20427730
The TRSI website is pretty much crap. No substance and the only thing worth reading is impossible due to the colour scheme.
ROFL This company has done 8 different things in 8 years!
Company Notes:
Formerly=XGA Golf International, Inc. until 1-99
Formerly=Phon-net Corp. until 6-99
Formerly=Phone-netcom, Inc. until 5-02
Formerly=Environmental Strategies & Technologies International, Inc. until 2-03
Note=4-03 company is in the development stage
Formerly=Tango Incorporated until 10-05
Formerly=AutoBidXL, Inc. until 2-06
Why would i own RSDS? Please tell me the merits? I have yet to find anything that would make me want to invest in it. It seem very shady to me.
I believe so! I also have found what i believe to be a picture of Mr. Berman celebrating his new venture! http://www.suljabrossucks.com/berman.jpg
You can tell that the deal is complete by the cleanliness of the underwear!
At least he is keeping active! Its a good thing to get exercise, especially at that age.
Blue I am totally confused! The last I checked ITHI was a bankrupt underwear company. Is it me or does none of this make any sense?
It makes total sense, when looking for uranium "Berman style" The key method is putting your underwear over your head and then stumbling towards any area that is glowing! Now that RSDS has a great supply of underwear that are lacking skidmarks, he is in a much better position to find uranium. As the skid marks skew results by inhibiting the secondary method of sniffing the uranium out, they are now on the way to greatness, riches and fame!!!
I believe we shall see great results from this synergistic partnership Between a man with expertise in healthcare and and underwear company. Surely uranium mining is within their skill set!! Their joint dream is now just so close you can smell it!!
At times though i do not feel so optimistic and strongly believe that they will continue to buy worthless claims, dilute, reverse split and get rich while providing no shareholder value. Call me crazy!(I wear my underwear on my butt and only for one day)
UWNK is actually a pretty cool stock! The fellow who founded ATARI and chuck e cheese started it. Very cool idea for a restaurant. I am long and following it. I think it will be a very big winner over the next couple years.
It sure would be nice if more than 5% of that list was legit more often though LOL
Why would you think it is a money making company? They are in a very depressed area of the country and have possible legal costs that could amount to many times there market cap? I fail to see anything positive and really no one has put forth anything that could be construed as negating any of the negatives. How many dollars in lawyers fees will it cost to just to fight the OSC,Drago, Chandler and probably the SEC and RCMP? Much less payout any losses or disgorgement?
Has anyone ever personally asked Petar where the audited financials from nov 16th are? All we have is conjecture. It would be good to hear it in person, would it not?
Case 0:07-cv-60072-MGC Document 34 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/15/2007
OCR
DEFENDANTS’ INITIAL DISCLOSURES PURSUANT TO FED.R.Civ.P.26(A)(1)
Pursuant to Rule 26(a)(1), Fed.R.Civ.P, Defendants Peter Vucicevich, Steve Sulja, Andrew deVries and Sulja Brothers Bulding(sic) Supplies, Ltd, make the following initial disclosures to Plaintiff, Glenn Drago, et al. By providing these disclosures….
Pursuant to Rule 26(a)(1)(A), Defendants disclose persons believed to have discoverable information that Defendants may use to support their claims or defenses.
Because we are in the early stages of discovery, Defendants are not able to identify all pertinent information or all individuals that may have such pertinent information. Nor have Defendants been able to verify that each of these individuals or entities has such pertinent information.
Defendants therefore reserve the right, pursuant to Rule 26(e) to amend or supplement this list. Notwithstanding these objections, and without waiver thereof, Defendants list the following persons likely to have information that hey may use to support their claims or defenses.
A. Peter Vucicevich – 1701 Erie Street S, Harrow, Ontario, Canada,
Telephone Number: (519)903-2577
B. Andrew DeVries, 9523 Winwood Drive, Boerne, Texas 78006,
Telephone Number: (210)310-4895
C. Steve Sulja c/o Sulja Brothers Building(sic) Supplies, Ltd, 1710 Erie Street S, Harrow, Ontario, Canada, Telephone Number: (519)738-8739
Explain to why you believe it is BS? I believe it is accurate and quite useful. It shows no significant naked shorts for SLJB or LFWK, which means Ammerman was lying does it not?
Why would you want to support a company that has failed to deliver so many times? Surely it would be considered a very poor investment?
i would very much like it if you would explain to me what you talked about earlier regarding the reg sho list. I am a good listener! Or shall we discuss the 44 reasons that i believe that this is bad stock to buy?
No, that i mixed up 1701 with 1710.
Gosh golly you are right Ragz, must be the dyslexia, my heart felt apologies. Now that is most interesting that they live a couple blocks a part though. Has it always been that way?
Has anyone found contact info for any of for these "sulja phantoms"
Philip Roth of Consultech Europe
Ahmed Khalil Al-Musylmani of Wessel
Fasl Abu Zahr (Lawyer ID Number 9598)
Surely they could clear up some serious issues relating to SLJB if anyone could find them? Why do they not get listed on the new PACER docs they could help SLJB out a lot i bet?
The only Philip Roth i know of is a very good writer and i think he is dead or very old. Ahmed does not seem to have a phone number that anyone can find. The Lawyer id 9598 seems to belong to a woman? a sex change perhaps?
Nope, not here! maybe Steve Petar and Andrew will find them later?
Case 0:07-cv-60072-MGC Document 34 Entered on FLSD Docket 06/15/2007
OCR
DEFENDANTS’ INITIAL DISCLOSURES PURSUANT TO FED.R.Civ.P.26(A)(1)
Pursuant to Rule 26(a)(1), Fed.R.Civ.P, Defendants Peter Vucicevich, Steve Sulja, Andrew deVries and Sulja Brothers Bulding(sic) Supplies, Ltd, make the following initial disclosures to Plaintiff, Glenn Drago, et al. By providing these disclosures….
Pursuant to Rule 26(a)(1)(A), Defendants disclose persons believed to have discoverable information that Defendants may use to support their claims or defenses.
Because we are in the early stages of discovery, Defendants are not able to identify all pertinent information or all individuals that may have such pertinent information. Nor have Defendants been able to verify that each of these individuals or entities has such pertinent information.
Defendants therefore reserve the right, pursuant to Rule 26(e) to amend or supplement this list. Notwithstanding these objections, and without waiver thereof, Defendants list the following persons likely to have information that hey may use to support their claims or defenses.
A. Peter Vucicevich – 1701 Erie Street S, Harrow, Ontario, Canada,
Telephone Number: (519)903-2577
B. Andrew DeVries, 9523 Winwood Drive, Boerne, Texas 78006,
Telephone Number: (210)310-4895
C. Steve Sulja c/o Sulja Brothers Building(sic) Supplies, Ltd, 1710 Erie Street S, Harrow, Ontario, Canada, Telephone Number: (519)738-8739
Tis very sad, it is even sadder that others continue to perpetuate this... I think within a year it will be over though.
Please explain it to me then, i love to learn new things!
How come no one wants to discuss my list of 44/46 failed claims?
I still think the forever in love site has something to do with Petar and Steve having the same address. Or maybe Petar was homeless and Steve took him in? Wouldn't that have been nice of Steve? Or maybe Steve was homeless and Petar took him in? Not being able to afford your own dwelling is not a good sign for a companies CEO is it? Any other ideas? Anyone?
Well if the list is BS a broker is lying, I think the question is very clear. Tell me why the list is BS if that is too hard for you to understand?
If it is BS tell me which broker would risk everything they have to mess with a 2 bit penny stock like SLJB?
Yes you can make money on many stocks, but when serious fraud allegations are involved you can also lose every penny very easily. Is that not true?
Who are the paid bashers Sally? That is a very serious accusation! Who are the hedge funds you speak of? I have checked the reg sho and naked shorting is not a problem and never has been. Care to fill me in with details?