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dfeickeesq,
I just do understand how you can possibly consider KBLB to be a worthless POS.
Even if you truly do feel that way, why would you invest so much into a company in which you have no faith?
What is guiding your thought process now is FEAR. I have been there, and I can tell you that FEAR is a potent force which can allow people to make all kinds of mistakes in the Stock Market.
No matter how much experience one has, FEAR can guide each of us in the wrong direction. It has happened to me many times, so I know all about the power it possesses.
Be calm, stay the course, and be patient. I truly feel some news is coming very very soon. That will help alleviate the fear which is gripping you now.....GO KBLB!!!!!
ES1,
A well-written and thoughtout post...
Hi All,
Happy Thanksgiving to everyone! I had a dream last night that Dupont offered a $5.00 buyout for KBLB. We would receive a check for the total amount of shares we owned, no sweat, no toil, no worries.
In the real world, however, I have been saying this for a while now, but I still think Santa will bring us some good news. I feel we are truly blessed to have Kim and Ben working so hard for all of us. KBLB is an opportunity that comes around once in a lifetime, so enjoy the ride, and appreciate what you have in this company!!!
I see nothing earth-shattering here in the 10-Q...
Downside,
I just wonder how you can make a statement like this,"there is no way in hell this company is making money."
What makes you think this? Then, you come up with another whopper, "I've not been fostering the fiction that they are."
What has KBLB said or done that you feel is fictitious? The way the two above statements are written leads me to belive that you are creating more fiction than anyone else.
"I'm addressing others who've been flogging that fiction re "commercial production" "revenue" and "profit"..."
Please prove what you are saying. If you cannot, then you are throwing out as much fiction as you THINK KBLB IS.
Brilliant analysis, Mike....GO KBLB...
Romans,
I hope your crutial assumptions come to fruition....GO KBLB...
Wonderful post, Mike...
Boy, I hope Kim and Ben read this post...well-done...
Mojo,
I agree with you, "that was the greatest time to trade..." Man, you COULD throw a dart and make money then. But all good things come to an end unfortunately.
I too "got caught holding when the bubble burst...took a hit but still came out very well..."
We both agree...holy crap.....
"you investors?..." Yes, you young (alliteration)...I can tell you are young because a. you have no patience; b. You think you know it all, all familar traits of the yutts (My Cousin Vinnie) of today.
"been there and done that...but it sure D he k didnt take me 20 plus years lol..."
There is no way on earth you have been there and done that. You probably (if you really even did) held G.E. for six months. Plus, you have NO IDEA how much money I made with G.E. It would shock you to learn that, and these are not the types of profits one makes unless he bought cheap, reinvested the dividends, and held on for decades.
"i have money i trade with...i also have several long term investment vehicles...once again, assumptions...when one has many working years ahead of them one can afford to take risks...when one doesnt have that many working years left one must think of preserving their capital and put the bulk of their money in much safer vehicles with less risk... but if one has done well, one can still have a substantial amount of money to trade with..."
Exactly......
Phenomenal question.....
Correct again, duck!!! You quack me up....
No sarcasm...I just like to know how Mojo knows all of these things. When people make claims, I want proof, just like he does from me....
downside,
"more people are more aware of how ridiculous the over the top promotion of the "story" here has been..."
I mean this with the utmost repect, but I am still trying to understand what your points are. I do not see where the "over the top promotion" is. Who is putting out this promotion, certainly not pumpers.
"The burrs under the saddles of the "promoters" here is only that the bogosity that has been flogged depends on people being stupid and lazy, and not questioning the most wildly outrageous crap..."
I do not understand what this all means. Who are the promoters? You certainly do not mean us posters. We have no power to raise the shareprice or lower it. Only pumpers who are handsomely paid have that power. No pumper has been paid for a few years now.
"And, as a result, I've flagged a time or two when the ridiculous crap exceeds limits of tolerance, not just in business practicality, but obvious limits in physical possibility."
Again, another heavy duty statement which needs clarity. I do not understand what the last part of the quote means.
"There is no commercial production occurring..." You are correct. This is why the shareprice is not moving up. There will be no production until a deal is announced. When that day comes, production begins, and the shareprice goes up. Once earnings come in earnest, the stock will be on its way
'There was never a "ramp" building TO that still non-existent potential... because the potential didn't exist... ?" Maybe I am dense, but I do not understand your point here either."
My point is that you have no proof for any of these confusing statements. They are just your feelings and beliefs. I respect that since I have my feelings and beliefs. There is no proof that KBLB will NOT go to production either. You either believe, or you do not....
But you do care..I know how concerned you are for all of us shareholders. This is why you consistently give us your advice...
Since you have nothing to sell, you should be elated with life. Why are you so concerned about all of here in KBLB land?
Mojo, you quote: "the people in the video are telling kim to keep his shareholders in the dark?... that is the weakest excuse yet..."
And you know this how????
ES1,
Very interesting videos..thanks..
EXCELLENT POINTS AGAIN, MIKE......
Again, patience, patience, patience..These things take lots of time, so if one lacks the necessary will to wait it out, there is always the sell button.
Bull,
Please explain the following quotes:
"They've clearly misled investors re the state of their development and the probability of a business success occurring."
How on earth do you know this? Show me where they have "clearly misled investors."
"They clearly don't have a viable commercialization plan, at this point..."
Again, how do you know that they do not have a viable plan? Has anyone told you this?
"The issue there isn't that they COULDN'T have a viable plan...
The issue is that they DON'T HAVE ONE..."
Again, I would love for you to explain how you know they do not have a viable plan. Please provide some examples or proof of this assertion. Unless you do not believe Kim, he explained that they are very near to signing a deal or deals, so commercialization is in the cards.
"The proof in performance that you see... is a proof in the lack of performance... in the elements that matter most in the market."
I'm not sure what you mean by this confusing sentence. However, you do understand that there will be no performance until they go into production, and you have no proof that they won't. You could easily say that I have no proof that they will, but I believe in Kim Thompson and Ben Hansel. If you do not believe in them, then this is not the stock for you or anyone else to own. Performance in the share price will begin once KBLB earns money, so do not expect any earth-shattering moves until deals are inked.
Duck,
It IS coming. No one knows for sure when, but it is coming. It is hard to set in stone any timelines.
See ya later...
"who said its 15k square feet?..." Then how do you it's a shoe box?
You are NEVER happy. If they did not have a lab, you would whine. They do have a lab, and you whine. It they had too large of a lab, it would be wasted space. Now the lab is too small. Does anyone of anything on this planet satisfy you?
Now that was one well-written post Romans....It contains something lacking in today's modern, sophisticated world, COMMON SENSE!
good job Manshoon....
That is what he is supposed to be good at....
There is no damage control here Mojo. You act like we all sat around and discussed how we could control this over-blown farce. We are just all stating our opinions like you. For some reason, our opinions are either lies or coverups or incorrect because they differ from yours....
Let it go everyone..Put it on the wings of a huge bird, and watch it fly away. This is what a psychology major told me forty years ago when I was in college. Anytime something bothered me, he told me to do this. Therefore, LET IT GO...Think about MS and what is coming, and forget about the OCD (Obcessive Compulsive Disorder) where one fixates himself on something and just cannot let it go.
Be happy, and discuss reality, not fictitious comments being totally blown out of proportion.....
Nicely put, Romans.....
Spaceman,
I agreed with Mojo that IF IT IS TRUE that some information leaked out somewhere, it is not good.
However, I just do not think that happended. Ben would never say anything. He skates better than any PR person I have ever dealt with, and I mean that in a good way. Therefore, I think someone's imagination is just running wild.
It is so easy for the mind to stretch or embellish what someone says. If you told someone something, by the time that rumour got to the sixth person, the original facts would have become pure conjecture. In other words, the story would have changed totally.
This is human nature, so let us quit blaming anyone, especially Ben. He is as clean as they come!
Mojo,
When you are correct, I say you are. I defintely agree with what you said. This is not a time to begin saying ridiculous things about possible insider trading violations.
I just wish I could agree with you more.....
I agree....il baccio della morte....
Cold, hard facts are coming for those who are patient enough. Who knows, they may even come before Christmas, so behave yourself. Santa is watching....
All I am saying is that I believe there will be news on or around November 15, depending on whether an extension is filed. What that news is, no one knows except Kim.
Therefore, I think you are wrong when you say you "seriously doubt that."
At my age, I am happy to get out of bed and put my feet on the floor. I just turned sixty, but I feel well. I ride my bike up and down hills and go on 50 mile rides. I also work out on a Total Gym, and I work in the yard around my house here in beautiful Florida. I have been a Type I Diabetic for 43 years, but I will fight this SOB as long as I can. So far, I am healthy and have no traces of damage. I do, however, have to watch things like karate and other such martial arts, since my healing takes a lot longer than non-diabetics. I do appreciate the offer though.
I have a close friend who lives in Denver, and she loves the state of CO.
May Kim bring us great news soon...GLTY
None of us have any idea what Kim will say very soon. We are all just hoping for some news. I feel within the next week, however, we will all know exactly where we stand.
There is no insider trading or releasing of information from Ben. That you can take to the bank! What is happening is quite simple. Since the time is drawing near for an update, some of are allowing our imaginations to run wild. We will know what is going on very very soon with cold, hard facts, not with fantasies and speculations.
As investors, we should all support Kim. If you are posting, and you do not support Kim, then you should not be here plain and simple...
Champ,
I concur; something is brewing.
That corner is as long as Kim wants it to be. He knows exactly what he is doing for the good of the company and his shareholders.
When the time is right, he will announce a deal (or deals).
Again, if you do not believe this, then you have no faith in Kim. If a shareholder of any company has no faith in his/her CEO, then there is no reason to be a shareholder in that company any longer....