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The market has just priced the stock for about a 25% dilution from the .017 price.
Timing makes it look like part of the Korean deal. They are tough negotiators and they probably wanted a part of the company to help put up a factory over there. These are shares for the 2B authorized that are probably maded restricted for some time. Lets hope so and no more restriction.
They still have get their bags and clear customs and with that stink on them they might think they are trying to smuggle drugs so it might take longer especially if they have any enzymes on them.
So explain why the dilution to 1.6B shares. I do not know the history but usually that means that is the only way they could raise capital. Correct me? If they did that last year then I could understand because there was no banks or investment houses willing to loan money. They were in terrible time the worst of time. So it is my understanding they had no choice - please correct me. If times were different I believe they could have gotten a loan. I agree somewhat with you the stk price is for raising money. We still do not know the terms of stk in close hands and the terms for it. I am assuming Allie has a lot and has some interesting terms with his stk. If they are going to grow like they say it is best to have more options to raise money and the best one is a good stk price. No one knows what tomorrow will bring in the financial markets. Look at Ford they did the smartest thing they took credit against all of there assets. I do not think they thought things would be as bad as they are but they were prepared for the terrible down turn. Never under estimate not having a good stk price you never know when you will need it. Plans never go as planned.
I am chilling out. I will just wait like everyone here.
You have to have the product I agree but there is soo much competition to get your story out there to get investors you have to work on it at the same time as the business today. I do not like to say that because I believe the business should be number one but it does not work that way anymore.
I am not down on this stk either but the people on this board need to understand Thurston is not going to move the stk get real. This is a bunch of honest guys running the company but I just hope they are not out of their league when it comes to handling the stk price. I do not believe that if you run the business right they will come for the stk price. It takes both today because the markets are so manipulated today not like 20 yrs. If you screw up the stk price you can screw up the company. I have seen it too many times. It is a tough game out there. You need a investment banker or an investment house helping you. One to review your PRs and how to handle the shorts. They companies that take care of the shorts if they believe in your company. there are so many things I do not understand - I have asked Mark about if they have anyone helping them. The answer I got did make me feel good.
So far he has not been able too and the chart has not looked good since the last run up. If he has nothing but signed contract he would be better off not to put a PR out for the shareholders. If he does then the shorts take over. He hyped this trip and if he cannot deliver the shorts are in control.
Like I said the shorts believe the odds are in there favor because to them it looks, smells and acts like a pinkie. Jared needs to understand how this game is played. All I can say is he better deliver if not we will test the .01 level.
Thats what I have been saying we only need PRs with numbers and signed contracts. All others make it just look like another pinkie. I believe some or the shorts are controlling this stk because the odds are in their favor for it to be just another pinkie with a lot of fluff PRs with no meat. I think Jared might be playing into their hands now when he response to all the wishes of the board. well said.
Your probaly right they can vent most of her stuff on the plane.
Also Jared will probably have to review the pictures she can send out to make sure the competitors cannot learn anything that is not public yet. There might be a setup that they cannot have the competitors see. I sure do hope they review the pictures to keep the competitors off guard.
But I am sure she can tell by being with them if they have a deal. I beat they have taken her cell phone away from, turned off her internet access & hotel phone.
I would love to see those pictures too better understand the process - I believe the California people I have talked too would be interested too.
Man you must be bored
T trades?? are those the trades at 4:00 or just after?
Something is holding this back and it might be VERT. We just need a little nudge to get it over 7 EMA over the 20 EMA. Definitely the longs are holding in here if not I think we would see more drops and bounces.
If good news come out and it helps the chart to have the 7 EMA cross the 20 EMA I think we can start moving again. It is better close to doing that now.
True she probably knows from smile and attitude if a deal is don't but she cannot say. I think they had her work around in sh---t while they had some heavy meetings.
I am sure we will not hear much from Thurston until they release a PR. She has to be gagged because if she says anything important that is not on the public record it could be interpreted as insider information and set the company up for a lawsuit. So I think we will see a PR first and then she will tell here story.
The chart has not looked that good for the last month after the run up. It looks like the MACD is improving it should go positive soon and the 7 EMA needs to cross the 20 EMA which I hope it does in the next couple of days when it does I think the stk will move.
Better yet go to the State's pollution control area to write new laws to use EESO.
Send me your email and I will send you the things I have discussed. I have a few friends in raising money and promoting stks. They have been looking at it, they are not looking for a quick buck. You need to know more details. One has raised 5M & 15m for small companies like EESO. He has looked and EESO and has some concerns- so email and you can call him. PRs that do not deliver is one of them and there are other issues more important.
You have know idea what i have been doing on this stock behind the scenes. If Jared does not come through I will have some credibility problems with the people I am talking too. I am not talking about little friends to invest in the company for a 1k or 2k of stk. So I am concerned that this trip has substance, because when i call the people I am talking to the first thing they are going to ask did they get this big business this month. Give me your email and I will send you some stuff.
We will have until tomorrow to see if Jared comes through. If not he has about two more weeks. He does not come through then he will have a big credibility problem with the marketplace to get new investors. This stk is not going to move from here for a long time if he does not come through on this business.
PRs meaning nothing signed contracts are what bring in the dollars and then the profit. Remember talk is cheap action is what counts in moving stk prices.
Problem is Jared stated he is expecting a done deal by the end of March and if he does not come back with a signed deal he has very little time to complete is word.
I also hope that the govt visit is not just a courtesy call with no substance. The big investor might just read that PR that way. I hope they have some substance from that meeting instead of just hand shakes and bowing.
Have you ever worked with the Asians?? I have friends that had designs being manufactured over there and they where on the shipping docks and their product was on the next truck with a different label on it being sold to the black black when they had signed deals not to have that happen. So wake up and know how business is done over there. I have seen it in the IC business too. You have to be very careful. What worries me is they know this is a small company they can take advantage of them. I just hope the Lee's have the right people in place and have a good reputation to keep this stuff from happening. I hope Jared has all of this covered.
Signed contract. any company can say they have three large companies interested legally if they only called and talked to them. this is why big investor know how to read pinkie's PRs better then the small try investor. They want a signed contract.
Your right a LOI will not do it only a signed deal and I am not sure they are going to get it if they are walking poop fields. Maybe Jared is in meeting while she is walking in the sh--t.
You might be right you don't take a shareholder to sign a deal but just to verify that work is being done is that what you are saying?
Buy tomorrow we will have an idea buy the volume. If it is up then the word slipped out to people not on this board but to big people and they would start to buy before any release. I am getting the feeling they will just get a LOI from this trip and Jared's credibility will be questioned. I hope not.
Where are all of the people talking about the stk to day. Looks like they have moved on to another stk.
You have to be very careful with the Asians they are very good and drawing things out if they think they can steal your product. In never trust them - the koreans are worse then the Japanese to do business with. I have been concerned from day one when they said it was the Koreans. When I was dealing with the Asians in the Auto business we always stated Koreans worse to work with followed by the Chinese and then the Japanese.
I hope they come back with a signed contract. If they are just wlking the fields of poop then I think this trip has been over hyed and the stk is priced on last yrs earnings and no more. The market is not going to price in any future ernings without a signed contract and no new buyers will be coming in.
I hope they come back with a signed contract. If they are just wlking the fields of poop then I think this trip has been over hyed and the stk is priced on last yrs earnings and no more. The market is not going to price in any future ernings without a signed contract and no new buyers will be coming in.
You right the shorts will own a pinkie if they want too especially shorting nake offshore. If you are making money then you have a better chance of beating the shorts, but if Jared does not come thru and just gets a LOI instead of a contract then I think the shorting will pickup.
Try this site. It shows almost 1M short for EESO
http://www.shortsqueeze.com/?symbol=eeso&submit=Short+Quote%99
If you are correct then Jared is just taking Thurston there to verify that more business is coming even if they do not come back with a signed contract. I think this will not help the stock price in the short term. The stock is priced on last yrs results with no forward earnings factored in. If no contract the market will keep holding back pricing any future earnings into the price. I hope you are wrong but it does make sense to take her there to verify future business.
That means if she leaves Sat morning around 8:00 am it will be around midnight in Korea and then 14-16 hrs in a plane. She will arrival late afternoon Korean time and then with the time from the airport to the hotel it will be after dinner. She will feel like hell if she cannot get any sleep on the plane. Then she wakes up and goes to meetings. I have done that routine yrs ago going to Japan it is hell on the body. So I would not expect much out of her unless she is not in meetings and can get to someones computer to email us. Just think it is a great idea to take her.
Chris,
can you send me a PM and I can tell you what I have tried to do. I am not able to PM. I would like to know before hand if you get it done so I could give heads up to some of the people I know out.
Go to hear you are trying to spread the work. I am trying to do it with my few financial contacts and the people involved with the environment out here.