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Clown town at its best.
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and 'hot air' floats.
Looks like a left over from Toys-Are-Us.
Quote: I believe some of the flippers may want to buy shares back before the pics are posted.JMO
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Some photos of the 'toys' should put more hot air into the balloon. No wreck. No treasure. Isn't that the bottom line? This outfit has never found a shipwreck or worked one and now they say the Tinkerbell doesn't find wrecks. How exciting.
The manifest of the 1715 Concepcion would represent, at the most, about fifteen million in modern day value. This value thing has been blown way out of proportion and they just love it.
In my opinion, some consulting firm Took this bunch of amateurs to the cleaners but the speed boat looks great in the photos.
Quote: Investors take the time to know what their looking at! Obviously you missed big on this one.jmo
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Obviously? A big one what? Some new toys that have produced no results. I see a bunch of clowns running around in a non-commercial speed boat at high speed with a umbilical connecting a catamaran to a submersible that is barely recognizable underwater. No shipwreck. No treasure. Allot to be excited about. This is certainly doesn't appear to be a cover-the-distance remote sensing survey tool that will find Spanish colonial period shipwrecks.
Obviously allot of deception. Their tinkerbell is in appearance no different than a number of current 3D sub-bottom profilers. That's why one will probably never see a patent pending. The sheeple don't know the difference.
Considered clown town in the treasure hunting field.
Quote: You know where lots of other 1715 coins have been found?
Melbourne Beach, 20 miles north of that stretch
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If that be so, its rather obvious SFRX doesn't know how to find it.
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Obviously 2020 is going to be an incredible year for us actual shareholders of SFRX (and years beyond that) but it all starts in this quarter. And there's not a lot of time left in this quarter.
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Would you kindly list SFRX achievements over the past fifteen years. Not huff-puff BS but factual proven achievements. That does not include the constant 'hot air balloon' rides this company is so famous for.
.....AND THE BAND PLAYED ON.
Quote: Fortunately, SFRX sharedholders know how to sieve out real news and fake news.
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Apparently not. The real fake news flows are coming from SFRX. The CEO tells the public 'we're on the wreck' over three years ago with out supportive evidence. The Tinkerbell nonsense goes on and on, here again, without proven supportive evidence. But who cares, while 'hot air' profits continue. Not a lick of substance.
I posted this once before and believe it worthy of posting again just to show how exaggerated this has all become. If SFRX was on this wreck site or anywhere near it, it could be well defined. As one can read, the 'Concepcion' had 32 iron cannons. I would imagine few here reading this post know anything about magnetometer surveys for finding historic shipwrecks. Magnetically, iron cannon anomalies are large and unmistakable. All that has ever been found in the 'we're on the wreck' location is one cannon and SFRX didn't even find that. It doesn't take a Flash Gordon blow smoke Tinkerbell to find this wreck. Nonsense. In my stated again and again opinion, the wreck is not there but as research indicates, lies a long way off. What has been found in this area (previously by Heartland) represents flotsam clear and simple, having come from the main wreck. The other SFRX gross exaggeration is the treasure value. Billions of dollars? What a joke. Even with 100% contraband of that of the stated registry, this value would be hard pressed to reach ten or fifteen million dollars. And the circus goes on.
Could Heartland Treasure Quest Have Found the Missing 1715 Fleet Concepción? An Alternative Theory
Rob Westrick
The patache Nuestra Señora de la Concepción, San José y San Francisco is one of the missing 1715 shipwrecks awaiting discovery. The Concepción struck the south side of Cape Canaveral and sank. Seven survivors floated on a hatch cover for three days as the currents swept them around the shoals and sand bars of the cape, where they landed on beach and walked to St. Augustine. Treasure hunters have been looking for the Concepcíon for years without success.
Patache, Nuestra Señora de la Concepción, San José y San Francisco: 265-tons, armed with thirty-two iron cannons, Master Pablo Soliac, owner Don Antonio Echeverz went to Havana where she loaded 3,000 pesos in gold doubloons, four gold bars valued at 5,703 pesos, 15 serons of cocoa, one chest of vanilla, 15 3/4 tons of brazilwood, 1,440 cured half-hides and a large quantity of tobacco.
Rex Stocker and his company Heartland Treasure Quest discovered an as yet unidentified debris trail or shipwreck site off Cape Canaveral. Stocker a resident of Sebastian, Florida was a former member of the Real Eight Company in the 1960’s. Heartland Treasure Quest (HTQ) had secured an exploration permit from the State of Florida Division of Historical Resources to search for shipwrecks off the cape. They then obtained a permit from the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers to salvage treasure within about a mile of shore from Cocoa Beach to Melbourne Beach. HTQ formed a partnership and agreed to subcontract the area to Amelia Research Company of Amelia Island; and Florida Research & Recovery, a group of investors primarily from Georgia.
In late August 2004, while exploring the area, the group recovered several artifacts that increased their hopes. Tom Funk, an archaeologist who teaches history at Satellite High School in nearby Satellite Beach, Florida stated to the press: ?Our artifact collection is pretty interesting. We have enough artifacts, I think, to show what period they belong to.? The most diagnostic artifact was a partially intact, silver-handled flintlock pistol dated 1709. It was also marked with the name of a manufacturer from Mexico. The pistol was loaded with two musket balls wired together. Other artifacts included what appears to be a boarding sword, which has a curved blade, a silver dagger or knife handle and two ornate silver Communion or Church platters beautifully inscribed with names of nobles or merchants. The collection also included some cannonballs, pewter plates and many other period artifacts including pottery, bronze and iron spikes, and wood ship pieces all indicate a shipwreck buried over time. According to the company’s Research Design Plan, the shipwreck is located in a deep layer of heavy anaerobic (without oxygen or bacteria) clay, covered with sand with seabed conditions including low visibility, shark infested waters, difficult to salvage, and in cold deep waters.? These conditions should allow very favorable conditions for a high level of preservation potential.
Flintlock pistol dated 1709. (Photo: courtesy Florida Research and Recovery Group)
The area where the artifacts were recovered lies about twenty-seven miles south from the tip of Cape Canaveral, opposite Spessard Holland Beach, off Melbourne Beach, Florida. HTQ is confident that the artifacts could be from the patache, Nuestra Señora de la Concepción, San José y San Francisco, one of the missing 1715 fleet shipwrecks. The Concepción struck the south side of Cape Canaveral and sank. Seven survivors floated on a hatch cover for three days as the currents swept them around the shoals and sand bars of the cape, where they landed on beach and walked to St. Augustine. One particularly interesting statement given by a survivor is on deposit in the Archivo General de Indias at Seville, Spain. He testified to a court notary that he floated on a hatch cover for three days within sight of land:
?... Captain Sebastian Mendez, pilot of the ship...he departed from Havana on the 24th day of July in company of the Galleons and the Flota, and he was lost on Wednesday the 31st, at two o'clock in the morning, because of a hurricane that came on from the east-northeast so strongly that although he has sailed the seas for many years and suffered through many tempests he has never seen another like it for violence, and his ship and all the rest were lost, some before and some after Palmar de Ays (Cape Canaveral), at 28 degrees 10 minutes (North Latitude)...in an area nine leagues (27 miles) from north to south...?
Other historical information gathered by Heartland Treasure Quest reveals there were visual sightings reported during the hurricane to the west towards the lower mouth of the Banana River which is at 28° 08 minutes. The Southern Area of the E-155D exploration permit area is situated just south of the lower mouth of the Banana River. Artifacts have been found both to the north and south of this location by beachcombers for many years.
Concepción Update:
On November 10, 2012 I had an interesting and informative phone conversation with salvor
Glenn ?Ace? Ridgely. Ace was diving with Seafarer Exploration Corporation (SFRX), a salvage company led by CEO Kyle Kennedy. According to Ace, Seafarers had been trying to get a salvage permit to work the Juno Beach wreck but kept getting denied by the State of Florida’s Bureau or Archaeological Research. State officials cited the company didn’t display enough ?financial? capabilities to do a responsible job. Ryan Wheeler, the Florida Division of Historical Resources’ archaeological research bureau chief, promised Kennedy they would be granted a permit if he could raise $500,000. Seafarers promptly raised the half million. What happened next is somewhat clouded with confusion. Ace informed me that the State of Florida hadn’t issued a new salvage permit in over twenty years and the emails proved that government officials were using their
positions to essentially prevent citizens from doing what they were legally entitled to do ?salvage shipwrecks? under state law. Heads rolled and one individual was fired, another was demoted and several others in the department were either terminated or transferred to other departments.
Prior to his involvement with Seafarers, Ace had been diving with Florida Research & Recovery. The company was working in conjunction with Heartland Treasure Quest searching for the Concepcíon of the 1715 fleet. They found a cannon outside of Heartland’s exploration contract area. Ace told them they should file for a lease extension to just include the newly discovered cannon, but at the time it was just an old rusty cannon and instead of submitting the necessary paperwork it was easier just to pick up the cannon and drag it a few hundred yards to a new location within their area. Ace felt they were more interested in attracting new investor money. Later they returned to the original cannon location and found something very interesting. An old flintlock pistol and some silver platters. Subsequent cleaning revealed the pistol was dated 1709. The silver platters were stamped with the owners mark. Further research obtained through Dr. Eugene Lyon revealed the owner was a passenger and aboard the Concepción.
Flash forward to the present-day. Kyle Kennedy bought part of the Heartland Treasure Quest group and now owns the Heartland lease area. The Concepción represents one of the biggest undiscovered? shipwrecks in Florida waters. According to Ace, Robert Bendis, who had replaced Wheeler wished the entire mess had not happened and the State of Florida is now working with Kennedy. Ace stated Seafarers should be getting a permit within the next few months to salvage the Concepción.
I asked Ace for some clarification regarding on the pistol and platter. Ace wrote me back stating:
Heartland Treasure Quest found the pistol. I think Steve Reedy’s son Zack found the pistol and platter, I don’t know who else was diving at the time. The pistol was made by a gunsmith sent over to the new world by King Philip V to make presentation pieces of gold and silver he made pistols and swords I don't know his name though, once Rreedy goes public with the platter story you can contact him for all the inside story but not until then. The pistol is unique because of its flint lock down device he is the only person to make that type of lock down, there has only been one other pistol found like it and it was found on the Corrigan's wreck site and I don’t know who found it or when it was found. I’m sure it will be found in Taffy’s (Fisher’s) records of that wreck site, booth pistols are made of silver and are very unique pieces. (500)
Could Heartland Treasure Quest have found the missing Concepción? Is Ace right in his assessment that Seafarer Exploration Corporation could be awarded a permit to salvage the wreck? Or is all this talk merely another pipedream, wishful thinking and people believing what that want to believe and hearing what they want to hear in the quest for sunken treasure? Only time will tell!
References Cited:
?Hunters Scour Sea for Sunken Ships? by Jim Waymer in Florida Today, April 28, 2004 HTQ, Inc. Supplemental ?Attachment C? E-155D, June 3, 2010? by Thomas Funk. Personal Correspondence with Glenn ?Ace? Ridgely
Personal Correspondence with Jim Stringer, Florida Research Recovery Group.
Quote: The SeaSearcher seems to be the best equipment to find them!! Of course all of this is just my opinion nothing more.
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A total 'blow-smoke' professionally unproven piece of crap that keeps the dangling carrots in front of naive investors. No patents applied for, no open ocean field test evidence, no shipwreck, no treasure.
QUOTE: Quote: They sure are regurgitating the "hot air"......They
use words/phrases like soon, when things start happening, Q1 2020, increasing the AS is AWESOME, etc.
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This means the investor interest here is authentic and that the investors in this security prefer honest disappointment to "hot air."
IF FOR ANYTHING, ONE HAS TO GIVE THIS COMPANY CREDIT FOR MASTERFULLY KEEPING THAT 'HOT AIR BALLOON' UP THERE. PRODUCED NOTHING IN OVER FIFTEEN YEARS BUT TALK BUT THE SHEEPLE JUST LOVE IT. A 'HOT AIR BALLOON' SUPPLIED WITH METHANE GAS PRODUCED BY A BARNYARD FULL OF CRAP. = MONEY.
I continue to find it very interesting that considering to hear CEO statements regarding the marvelous performance of the find-all Tinkerbell II, why the absence of any disclosure of patent applied for / patent pending? After all, these statements are made by the same man who said 'WE'RE ON THE WRECK' over three years ago.
Quote: Game on
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It's been game on for over fifteen years and has proven to be just that - a game (the laugh of the treasure hunting industry)
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Funny that Craig Huffman, the company's attorney who is now CEO at another (ahem) salvage company announced TODAY something similar about apps, but Craig one-upped Kyle.
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From all I'm told that outfit is just as big a clown show as this one is. Who cares about finding real treasure? Apparently the name of the game is to tell great bed time stories and sell stock.
Quote: What did he say at the end of today's interview? "Enjoy the ride!"
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The same ride ever since the man said 'we're on the wreck" over three years ago. A very reliable 'would I lie to you' character. Yes indeed enjoy the ride.
Quote: So many things that the equipment could be used for! I see $$$$_ jmo
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Although to date totally unproven, at the least it might be used for underwater sewer pipe detection leaks. Allot in common. Still never news about Patent Applied For or Patent Pending. How strange. The paid promotion will divulge all the facts, won't it?
The clown town folks want the sheeple to believe they're developing cutting-edge undersea detection technology but never once is evidence shown. All talk. Open up the attached link which shows what the real hands-on people are doing.
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0305440319301190
Quote: I have been with SFRX from Day 1 and have never lost faith
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So what are you saying? No loss of faith in a company with zero achievements in fifteen years but has the magic touch of generating hot air profits. Great.
Quote: I spent my time, separating the cream from the milk! Sfrx is the cream and time will tell.
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As a treasure hunting company it's a turd. All 'hot air' profits with no substance, no achievement. Without true performance that balloon won't stay airborne forever.
Quote: Actually we can argue all you want. You on the other hand can't say the equipment doesn't work. You have no proof. Just because you are not seeing any info doesn't mean it doesn't work. I say it does work! Ever notice how well the pps is holding up? Do you think it's for a reason? JMO
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Proof it doesn't work? No shipwreck. No treasure. The ups holding up. Hot air rises as does the steam off barn yard manure. There is money to be made of of manure. SFRX might consider looking into that.
Quote: There are many ways the new technology can be used. Kyle is not stuck in one small area like some believe. I believe there will be other uses! And other areas to work. Jmo but of course I'm positive since I own shares!! Another nice day!!! JMO
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You keep talking about SFRX technology that has no FACTUAL support. The only thing you have is information given on PAID promos. from a CEO who said 'we're on the wreck' going on four years ago. That statement never had or has FACTUAL evidence to support it. Also totally ignored is the fact that the State of Florida has not and probably will not actually issue a salvage contract to anyone. In addition, there are few if any countries issuing treasure hunting contracts to any private sector entities as most all have signed on to the UNESCO Underwater Cultural Heritage Treaty. One can more or less accurately say that the treasure hunting industry is just about dead. It's marvelous you own shares, which you have told all dozens of times, with a company that specializes in hot air balloon rides that apparently (for now) do make money.
As to the undersea detection technology, I might be more impressed to hear that SFRX was introducing digitized gum-ball machines.
Sea conditions were great. Did the Tinkerbell II find-all pin point the billions in gold and silver?
Quote: Not just NEVER BEFORE SEEN, but NEVER.......
EVER SEEN.
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As I have posted before. Where are the proud to announce patents applied for or pending? Where is there even a simple nondescript photo of the Buck Rogers find-all underwater sea mobile? The only thing we ever saw was an artist rendering of what looked like the flying car with the wheels removed. SFRX the innovator of cutting edge undersea technology. So where's the proof?
Quote: It's SFRX's turn to show how it's done. New, smarter equipment coming if not being used already! Let's see how the new guys on the block do!! JMO
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All gonna be, wanna be on going. Excuse after excuse. I thought Tinkerbell II was out there doing its Tinkerbell thing? After all 'we're on the wreck' according to the 'would I lie to you' CEO, the sea conditions are workable in this forth coming week so I would have to assume its bingo time. Right?
Quote: would be the ship's resting place that Kyle described. Now he did say they are not sure if the bottom of the ship dragged on a speed bump before coming to rest and all the gold leaked out. I admit the treasure could have leaked for miles, but the hill itself should be the place to start, one would think.
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The man knows nothing about shipwrecks. How could he? Never discovered a shipwreck or worked a Spanish colonial period shipwreck since the creation of the company. The consultants he has hired (most of whom I respect) are not remote sensing surveyors or shipwreck discoverers but have gained their experience on sites already found and worked in most all cases. Furthermore to date I know of no one actually working for the company who have any of the above expertises as mentioned.
Well looky here. The sea conditions going into next week are very workable. Based on the CEO's past statement 'we're on the wreck' and his supposedly knowing the wreck is at the base of an underwater hill (ridiculous in my opinion), with the fabulous Tinkerbell II, pin-pointing the wreck and the 'billions' in gold and silver should be a slam-dunk operation of but only a couple of days. Wouldn't you agree?
AMZ552-022200-
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm-
414 AM EST Sun Feb 2 2020
SMALL CRAFT ADVISORY IN EFFECT UNTIL 10 AM EST THIS MORNING
TODAY
Northwest winds around 20 knots and gusty, diminishing
to 10 to 15 knots in the late morning and afternoon. Seas 4 to 6
feet with a dominant period 6 seconds. Choppy on the intracoastal
waters.
TONIGHT
West winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 3 to 4 feet with a
dominant period 8 seconds. Mostly smooth on the intracoastal
waters.
MONDAY
Northwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming southeast
5 knots in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a dominant period
7 seconds. Mostly smooth on the intracoastal waters.
MONDAY NIGHT
South winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet.
Mostly smooth on the intracoastal waters.
TUESDAY
South winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet. A light
chop on the intracoastal waters.
TUESDAY NIGHT
South winds 5 to 10 knots increasing to 10 to
15 knots after midnight. Seas 1 to 2 feet.
WEDNESDAY
South winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots increasing to 15 to
20 knots after midnight. Seas 3 to 4 feet. Slight chance of
showers.
THURSDAY
South winds 15 to 20 knots. Seas 3 to 4 feet. Slight
chance of showers and thunderstorms.
Quote: I could go on and on about a company that you worked for that never found anything. I also watched as they went out of business quickly.
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I worked with one of the great legends in modern day treasure hunting. Burt Webber who discovered the 1641 Concepcion and over 30 other historic wrecks in the Dominican Republic. While there we discovered the 1718 'Jesus of Nazareth' and in only proofing excavations over 400 artifacts and treasure was recovered. Following that Webber discovered the 1725 'Nuestra Señora de Begona' which here again during proofing yielded hundreds of Spanish reales coins. You failed to point out that Hispaniola Ventures (Webber) was unfortunately joint ventured with a flake named Mark Goldberg (Marine Exploration), a con-job penny stock operator. Because of non-performance on funding, Webber issued notice of default and that's the end of the story. Get your facts correct. In spite of all this, Hispaniola Ventures (Webber) found more shipwrecks and artifacts and treasure in less than one year than this clown town outfit you so highly praise found in over 15 years. Matter of fact they (SFRX) has never found anything worthy of mention.
Quote: Kyle needs to blow more hot air.......and
tell everyone how his mind was blown by Stinkerbell 2.0's capabilities.
How it can see 20,000 Leagues Under The Sea and all.
#wheresthewreck
#zipzeronada
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Solely hot air profits from the beginning. The wheel of fortune for in the know penny stock players. They have never found a worthy shipwreck, no treasure, really no nothing. What happened to all these awesome government contracts?
Apparently Tinkerbell 2.0 was the CEO's mind-blowing experience just like his paid promo announcement he made of 'we're on the wreck' well over three years ago. Once again nothing ever produced to substantiate such a claim.
Quote: I Picked up more shares! I'm thinking if someone was using margins in their account, with the market being sold off their shares may have been sold off
To cover? Jmo
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And the band played on while the Titanic went down.
Quote: Absolutely! SFRX grows every day
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So do mushrooms. Need I tell you what they grow in. Remarkable similarity.
Quote: I will get back to you in a month or so. JMO SFRX is holding up great today, while the market is down big time? Interesting??
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Take your time, perhaps next year as I doubt it will make little difference. For now the stock may be doing well but you know and I know that you can not list one positive, factual, provable achievement this company has ever made in treasure finding or technological development that finds shipwrecks or treasure. All talk. Marvelously, the 'hot air balloon' stays up on the gasses generated by pure barnyard crap.
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Although asked many, many times I have yet to see you list FACTUAL. PROVABLE achievements produced by this company in anything.
Still waiting trueblue.
Quote: I believe sfrx is getting things done! Like have stated before, where I live people use hot air balloons a lot, I haven't seen one yet that goes up and stays up for a year
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If the 'hot air' generated is sourced by a steady flow of barn yard crap, it can obviously stay up for a very long time.
Although asked many, many times I have yet to see you list FACTUAL. PROVABLE achievements produced by this company in anything.
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you actually listen to it Kyle claims they can handle 5'-6' waves, no problem.
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I have been on very professional magnetometer and sub-bottom profile surveys and well know that survey accuracy cannot be maintained in 5'-6' seas on a survey boat the size of theirs. In my on going opinion this was and continues to be a clown town operation with all too many misrepresentations. But then again maybe we should be listening to some of the 'hot air balloon' profit making sheeple who just because they own shares are authoritative in all these maritime and technological forecastings.
Quote: Looking like Stinkerbell 2.0 is a bust. The Beaver.....
claimed 79 days they were going to were going to look at "something big" on site.
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I called this one, I firmly believe accurately a long time ago. Clown town at its best.