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Actually if those restricted shares really aren't counting against o/s or market cap for two years, all of your stocks look great now!
Here is what pinksheets says:
DIAS Holding Inc.
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Estimated Market Cap
39,887,319 as of Aug 21, 2008
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Outstanding Shares
13,295,770 as of Aug 22, 2008
I did sleep for a couple of hours, but I woke up and started checking for the new symbol on different sites. lol One interesting thing of note, all now have price at 3.00, but they also have o/s as 13 million and market cap around 39 million.
If those new restricted shares are not counted towards the market cap or current o/s for two years, then thing thing could go way beyond any of my expectations on any substantial news. It could be they haven't updated yet, but on other stocks, like one of my other shells, the owner has 90 million restricted shares, but the listed o/s of 24 million doesn't count them. This could get interesting, if this new o/s and market cap holds then no way I'm selling any yet! Ok back to sleep. lol
I still hope my target is reached in more like 2 months rather then two years. lol
Every time I hear the new symbol I keep thinking of DHL shipping. LOL
I am actually ok with watg as an example, it's cap back in early 2008 supports what I am hoping for with JPCI / DSHL right now. LOL
Don't worry, I definitely won't be selling at bid, I need at least today's ask levels to even think of selling, and no more then 1/4 of my holdings. I really wish I knew what this were going to do. LOL
I think I'm cracking up this evening.
Sorry silverbullet and all, but as I'm sitting here looking at my portfolio tonight I see an 85% recovery from a stock disaster that really made things suck for me. LOL This is like seeing everything back, and yet I know it will probably be gone by tomorrow. Ahhhhh I wish I could convert my shares to cash right now, or at leat have a guaranteed stop loss LOL.
And I thought being in the top .05% in the Million Dollar portfolio challenge was tough, I almost won the watches too!
I also once had 4 of the first five numbers on a powerball ticket and missed the $200,000 5th number by 1 DIGIT! I had like a 26 and the actual number was 27 or something.
I won't even mention the 180,000 I missed in Aria, or the 600,000 I would have had with apple. LOL
What if the JPCI 1.50 / DSHL 3.00 actually holds though? God it would be so great! lol Goodnight all I need an excedrin.
Really silverbullet those examples have me depressed,. They all have 25 million o/s, revenue in the 100 million range, and market caps less then revenue!
Ours has 100 million o/s (though a lot will be restricted)several million in revenue but not 100 million, if we trade like those stocks in relation to market cap, will be at .06 cents tomorrow!!!!!! LOL
I need this to trade like CKXE, 95 million o/s, 200 million revenue, and almost 900 million cap, and cap was much higher then that previously when revenue was below 100 million. I need our stock to trade like ckxe, I don't want to wait 3 years before it trades "steady" at a dollar, I want the type of stuff we had today!!!!!! I need 4 dollars in 3 months, not 1 dollar in 3 years! LOL
If $4.00 gives me a complete stock disaster recovery, and this will have a $3.00 ask at open, should I consider dropping 1000 share chunk tomorrow if I can get some action at say mid 3 dollar range? lol
Is this thing going to trade wildly because of the very small float and initially restricted shares, where the price will be way over what you'd normally expect, and where people who have shares that can be sold will do well? I am confused and don't want to lose the money I see in my portfolio tonight. LOL I know it will probably go down, but if it unexpectedly holds or even goes up, what level would you consider selling even a small portion? Honestly?
I do see this going down once those newly issued shares can reach the market, but how wild can it get between then and now? lol
Those examples got me depressed lol, they have like 1/4 of the o/s of our stock, and their market caps are even below their revenue. Thankfully I think ours is a general contractor for dozens of factories / companies throughout China and Taiwan, where the stocks you have listed are the single individual manufacturers that a company like ours might represent.
Interesting that my other stock is now in the Chinese automotive supply and manufacturing sector, and I think there is a youtube clip of Meuse on foxnews saying the greatest potential in China is with their growing Automotive industry.
Who knows, maybe this will follow a similar successful Chinese Auto or at least Chinese path if we are really lucky. I won't complain about any successful path though, Chinese or not. lol
If JPCI, tomorrow DSHL holds and moves forward from here, then next time you see this move it might be me again! LOL
Right now my portfolio, thanks to my other stock, shows an 85% disaster recovery LOL, I know it was only a small ask buy and I am keeping things in perspective right now, but I am still sitting here looking at the portfolio and dreaming. lol
Also Imagine what it would be like if this stock went nuts like that! LOL ahhhhhhhhhh
My motto is expect little and you'll never be disappointed, but you never know with surprises, both to the upside as well as the downside, we are in uncharted territory now.
This is getting really exciting!
I know, but I mean if the price quotes are accurate and hold, this will be way ahead of what I had hoped and a complete dream!
It's a dollar 1.50 right now!!!!!!!!!!!???????? Or am I seeing things, it went .51, .24. 1.50.
I'm getting scared here, I might be rich soon or something, not use to this LOL. This is all very strange, maybe I will get a miracle much sooner rather then later LOL
Ask is currently 1.50 pre split? That means 3.00 post split ask, if I can get 4.00 post split I have full stock disaster recover. I think I will dream for a few minutes anyway. LOL
WHOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooooooooo FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Both, all info up there and in filings
Maybe they wanted to get the latest 10Q out of the way first, released it today.
I really thought we'd get the r/s over with and have the new symbol this week. Was hoping anyway. lol
Bah, I'm getting impatient lol. I thought if the share exchange was done on Monday we'd have been on the daily list for the reverse split and new symbol announcement by now. Obviously there's a lot of details and procedures to a merger process that I don't understand, but I'm ready for the new symbol! LOL
I agree, at first I was worried about the problems in the US Auto industry and the affect on this stock, but when you think about how the emerging markets are the sole profitable area for companies like GM right now, and how this company has positioned itself by going to Detroit, it could be brilliant indeed. Nothing is a guarantee but I hope you're right.
It seems China and emerging markets are the only place the US Auto makers are making any money right now too which doesn't hurt.
In terms of plain valuation, I've seen otcbb stocks with 0 to 3 million in revenue spike on news and have ridiculous market caps before, like one Homeland security company I think had 1 million revenue and went to a 600 million market cap on one new 2 million dollar contract. Sybd, now OXBO, recently went into the hundreds of millions market cap on a mere 2 or 3 million dollar contract with the US Government to test their blood substitute. This company, post merger, will have about 16 million revenue going by their last quarter, and growing, and have a 40 million range market cap. That is with the current price levels, which looks pretty reasonable and leaves plenty of upside potential. My opinion anyway.
The stocks that get hit on reverse splits are usually dying companies that are doing it to artificially inflate the price, this is a completely new entity that is hitting the market for the first time and the r/s is simply part of the agreed upon merger process. This is only my opinion, I can't guarantee anything, and have been wrong before, but I am not expecting a real price decline at all, more like an increase if anything.
The way I see it, near term the best opportunity with this stock will be after the merger, to before the new restricted shares eventually become part of the float. That is the best window and chance for a real price increase near term, my guess & hope anyway. No idea how long that window will be, but looking forward to Monday. Wonder if we'll be on the vaunted daily list finally?! lol
As far as best time to buy this stock, I'm pretty sure it was last year. :p
All logic aside, what does this have against it? It's non reporting, and on the pinks and maybe some of its sister shells have been flops recently. LOL That said, someday someone is going to get really lucky with one of these non reporting pink things. It's happened before, it will happen again. Also you never know, maybe Meuse reads this forum and actually likes us? LOL
Anyway, I like this stock basically for the name and the feeling it gives me. LOL So we'll see. One thing of note, I noticed some of the weirdest stuff in the past with some shell stocks has happened near or right after the bottom in some of the worst markets. Maybe crazy shell mergers are an indicator of when things are about to recover? Who knows lol
If the value is determined by whatever the outcome of this will be, then anything is possible good or not so good, SO I'd much rather wait and have something unexpectedly good happen that breaks all conventional wisdom recently LOL, where this could be say... 1.85 someday. I say no reverse split & 1.85 >>>>>10 pennies. LOL
Remember though, expect nothing and you'll never be disappointed. LOL
I hope so! I think this definitely has a special feel in terms of quality compared to a lot of the shell reverse mergers recently.
I really like the part about the quarterly sales being up from 2.1 to 3.4 million! I also like the mention of China.
Why not 26 pennies LOL
Ok Ok
.26 cents, that's my final offer! LOL
Maybe it will go up in spurts if a miracle happens
That way you guys can cash in on a blip up to 9 or 10 cents, and I could sell on a secondary blip from say 10 cents to maybe the 1 to 4 dollar range, and then everyone is happy! LOL
LOL you guys speak for yourselves, I'm praying for at least .40 cents here, but 1.00 range would really be for the best lol, and 2.00 range would be even better! LOL
& I am still open to $4.00 as well if your listening God, I personally wouldn't complain! LOL
Definitely, thanks!
My old stock IPYS never made it obviously, but before I owned it, it was a shell called filmagic with about the same float and structure as this, and upon becoming IPYS it went from .002 to 3.00 in about a day on no reverse split, so miracles can happen, never say never! LOL
Over $2 I will pay off my Jeep, and consider a smaller good mileage sports car. Also re-invest heavily and some charity.
Over $4 pretty much the same except replace good mileage sports car with a Nissan GTR! LOL I can dream anyway!
Today wasn't me Bergie,
Jus so you know! LOL
Not sure if you're aware, but Meuse has been showing up on Fox Business Channel as a China investment expert over the past few months, maybe that is generating some interest in his shells?
Better yet, maybe some miracle is really about to happen and we'll be at $2.00 to $4.00 with no reverse split soon! lol Ah yes, I can dream anyway! LOL
Yup, new name is much better!
It's much more reflective of their business, and it shows some competence by the new managers as they recognize anything with the words "Detroit" and "Auto" in a stock right now might as well be Titanic Inc. lol
This company has a large Chinese and forging aspect, and as you noted, the Chinese Auto market and Asian suppliers are doing pretty well right now, and WAY better then the US Auto industry and market currently.
Updated Pre 14c has been released:
Has the info now up to March 31st, and also a different name which I think is better in this environment. The original "new" name was going to be Detroit Auto Salon Corp, the "new" new name post merger, according to the new Pre 14c, will be DIAS Holding, Inc., I like it! lol