Linda is biotch...! LOLz JayKay
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The Street's Busted Stocks: Patriot Coal
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Holy Crap!!! It is all out war!! Debtors want the Noteholders kicked to the curb and not participate this the BK if they dont comply with 2019. Debtors filed an emergency motion to that effect.
Noteholders want a trustee appointed. Wilmington trust agrees with the noteholders to appoint a trustee.
Creditor committee objects to the the debtors extending exclusivity of the plan. Wilmington trust also objects to debtors extension. Noteholders also objects. US Bank NA also objects to the debtors extension. United Mine Works objects to the extension. EVERYONE OBJECTS!
Debtors may DEFAULT on DIP as early as July and liquidate Patriot Coal.
imo
Correction: It should be non obligor debtor, not non debtor. eom
That was a proposal from the debtors to the union, not the reorganization plan.
Debtors filed for an extension of the disclosure and plan.
I am not saying shareholders will be wiped out, however, equity looks very bleak at best.
When creditors start to actually worry about their position, then equity is already gone. The noteholders (2 Hedge funds if I remember correctly) filing of their appointment of Trustee to administer the (non debtors portion of the) estate shows that "they" are worried about "their" positions (and indirectly other creditors being prejudiced by the Union).
Remember this is: Creditors (noteholders) vs. the Union. Equity is just a bystander here.
... Anything can happen at this point...
Cheers
IMO
No, I do not not want the entire board to know my entire positions. eom
It is "Sweet," however, during BK, these distributions are generally suspended, so I expect them to disappear from my account shortly. =(
imo
I said "ASK", however, I show a "last" of $49.00,and a high was $50.00 eom
Bonds moving: 3.25 bonds with an ASK of 17.50 and 8.25 bonds with an ASK of 49.55 which are the highest in a while.
Speculation: We may have a ruling on the change of venue soon (leak) and it stays in New York.
imo
Why not just post it instead directing someone to look for it?
http://www.wmitrust.com/documents/8817600/8817600120807000000000001.pdf
My answer was in relation to CT on a CT board.
Are we on the CT board or COMMON or PREFFERED board?
Which is it? Right, the CT board.
You posted commons and preffereds.
eom
That is in reference to CT.
Anyhow, re: common/preffered, your link:
He is referring to the expiration dates on his Diet Cokes. eom
Non-event. imo/eom
If Chase can't foreclose, then refinance it. No need to prove Chase acquired Wamu loans.
Those Wamu loans are officially Chase after refinancing.
imo
Right, one gets paid, they all get paid, remember? One gets discharged, they all get discharged. All Class 10.
Oh wait, only if it is positive comments, then it applies, BUT if it is negative, it only applies selectively, as in not you. Right!
Got it!
BTW, I traded for "free shares", my bonds are considered "free", just like your "booking". I just didn't take all my profits and ran. [my fault].
CT = worthless. Just like what CT Trustee as well as their attorneys said. Just like it is worthless in Washington Mutual. Even Seaport stated they wanted "Lehman paper and stressed GUARANTEE," but mention CT Trust, they are NOT interested.
No mention of CT in the POR. Yup, CT guarantee is worthless.
Oh wait, it does not apply, because it is the truth is not what you want to hear and does NOT comport to your overly optimistic views of getting paid 100% plus interest, while the seniors get 18 cent on the dollar. Oh wait, you sold some, so you are no longer confident, but CT's are a sure thing.
Just remember, we are all in the same boat.
Hmm... still reminds of me the "perfect storm" [inside joke for the Lehman Verterans], just new crew. LOL
Tah tah!
imo
He is saying "2 Times Value" as in 2 Diet Cokes for everyone! LOL eom
Reminds me of the tale of the "perfect storm".
Tell everyone how great this and that is and how much money we are gonna make, but really selling while other are buying.
Ah... the perfect storm.... all over again....
Imo
There was no settlement of claims. The agreement was that "they" can re-file if the waterfall flowed to Class 18. The only thing that happened was the reserve for "them" was release and distributed.
There is more to it, but the above it the gist of it.
I am sure someone here remember the same that may chime in.
EDIT: It also had to do with being Class 12 vs. Class 18.
imo
Yup, just like they did for Kroger/Ralphs, Safeway/Vons, Alberstons, various county employers, etc.
Sit in, picket, etc.
Unions cry, bitch and moan when they don't get their way.
imo
If you have experience in bankruptcy, you do NOT need a prospectus to tell you that sub bonds are paid AFTER senior. That is all boilerplate.
Glad you are able to figure it out AFTER the POR was confirmed about a 1 year or so ago.
So your are barely looking at the prospectus now. Good job.
imo
I said:
No comment other than what I have said before, prospectus is irrelevant since the POR is confirmed.
Everyone has to look at everything in the context of bankruptcy, not as if there was no bk.
I have to get back to work.
Good day.
imo
paid in Full means just that, paid in full, as in 100% of their allowed claim. The time it becomes satisfied in full is when there is no more assets distributable, then the claim becomes satisfied in full as in there is nothing left to distribute to pay 100% of the allowed claim, hence it is satisfied and the balance discharged as well as everything else below in priority.
imo