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yeah it feels like there holding it back. keeping the spread the way it is gets mm more money. its moving somewhat orderly other than the spread. dont think there ready to run it yet, lets see
imo really only bout 80mil float. 60%+ held by insiders
IMO TCPS international patent lawsuit still in play, thats why im even here. this news icing on the cake! im holdn my shares tight.
TCPS has smaller share structure then CBGI which has traded between .10 and .40 last 3 weeks and today is at appprox .19. CBGI has 200mil more shares os too. would be nice to see TCPS surpass those levels:)
TCPS mj news this morn under 300 mil os goin to multi pennies? imo
TCPS mj news this morn under 300 mil os goin to multi pennies? imo
its ok i was just givn u crap no big deal, i hate to see anyone lose money. i got 100 buks in at .0001.(maybe) i thought u sold with a market order and it went off at 00001. my bad. good luck to you hope you make millions somehow somewhere. hav a good 1 suberized
yeah didnt suberized just sell all shares w/ a market order for .00001 lmao
GOOD SIGN WHEN THE BASHERS SHOW UP only 20 mill away from 1 bill vol
SURE, BUT ST*V HAS 12 BILL O/S AND 100BILLION A/S AND ITS .0006-.0008 TODAY. PHMB CAN DO BETTER IMO
yup now that the shorts covered, they now want the price to move up- the tide has turned
bid is strong! ther just not showing it. there have to be alot of pissed off sellers. were gonna break a billion shares today and its all buying pressure now whoohoo:)
yup:) funny all these buys and bid still showing at zero and ask@ .0001 approx 160 mil. another 100 mill bought last 30 min
10,000 BID VOLUME OBVIOUSLY FAKE LMAO
FOR EVERY SELL THERE IS A BUYER-130 MILLION BOUGHT @.0001 LAST 30 MINUTES
IMO the shorts still own all ther shares at .0001. they bought in at .0001 then sold @.0002. bought short position at @.0002 and covered at .0001. yes they made 200 percent but sill own @.0001. so in essence all ther shares are free and still made 100 percent unless they dumped ther .0001's to those trying to avg down. ther may be some life left here. wait and see. dont let any go @.0001. move your bids up w gtc order
conceptually, the share price=pyramid. so now its like a base of a pyramid is being made. all the volume and interest is creating the base. some got in at 1 and flipped for 2 or are now riding free shares. you cant blame anyone for doing that. the 2's came in and some 3's . of course the same thing happens on up this conceptual pyramid if you work together to build the pyramid. if people can hold onto ther shares and/or add to there position and stagger ther GTC orders at or above the ask; this will create a pressure differential that will move the price upwards. the MM's and short position are trying to tear down this conceptual base of a pyramid that is actually represented by the real money being put into this base. IF YOU BUILD IT MONEY WILL COME. APPLY PRESSURE IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION PEOPLE! THATS HOW ITS DONE! BE COURAGEOUS! HOLD YOUR SHARES AND YOU YOU WILL BE REWARDED. THE MM's AND SHORTS ARE THE PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY FOR THIS PYRAMID THAT YOU WILL SELL TO THEM FOR A BIG PROFIT.BUT YOU MUST BUILD IT FIRST! IF YOU KEEP GIVING YOUR SHARES AWAY YOU ARE ERODING THE BASE AND GIVING THE SHORTS MORE MONEY AND PRESSURE IN THE WRONG DIRECTION. BE STRONG MAKE EM PAY FOR YOU PATIENCE AND COURAGE. THEY WILL DO ALL THEY CAN WITH THE SHARE PRICE TO GET YOU TO UNLOAD YOUR SHARES. BE BRAVE+PATIENT. ITS SIMPLE MATHEMATICS TAINTED WITH PEOPLES EMOTIONS AND GREED.
TO BE REAL, WE ARE IN PENNYLAND, OF COURSE THIS COULD ALL GOTO SHI* TOO! WHEN PRESSURE DIFFERENTIALS REACH CRITICAL STAGES. IT DEPENDS ON WHO IS RUNNING THIS! STRONG OR weak HANDS. STRONG HANDS CONTINUE APPLYING PRESSURE. BUILD IT
IMO
if everyone that has orders to sell at .0002 and .0003 moved ther orders up a couple of tics with a good till cancel order at .0004 and .0005 we would see the short position scramble to cover and get the engine running. there trying to scare you out of your shares IMO.
mj for mans best friend fido
frikn GREAT!!
these patent infingment cases, especially international, are often settled in the billions of dollars when multi national companies involved. just imagine if it is a giant company that infringed and built their infrastructure/product with this technology-wow just a .5- 1 billion settlement with full a/s issued -do the math. i like it.
big order on the bid but there not given shares away.
ok so from my brief dd this is an international patent infringement play. this will be HUGE if the technology is already being used by any major carriers/companies. the company has already identified 1 "entity" and possibly others infringing on there patent. Technoconcepts have a Wash DC attorney to deal with the international patent infringement etc. so all these filings, shuffling of debt, and back peddling with the tax writedowns, -i believe this is being done to keep everything on the up and up- i dont think anyone is running for the doors- i believe some of the senoir debt was converted to common shares with the senior debtholders blessings -notes and such came due and senior debtholders chose to stay the course and accept common shares-(thats a really good sign imo) everyone still want to stay in the game with this one because of the potential here. news could drop at a moments notice and send this north, way north. Am i missing anything here or do i have the jist of it? TIA
VDSC what a party! good luck longs whish u the best,have fun. come to the afterparty EXMT
so it is a possibility eventually or even before if/when there is a payout you have to pay taxes on the difference between the price you paid for your shares and there face value plus accrued divi/interest pymnts weather or not you actually received any monies or the monies are even collectible. from my understanding as of now this seems to be the way the irs sees it. my broker, accountant, and tax guy all came to the same conclusion-all agreed its a messed up deal-its like you keep paying taxes on yer interest your really not receiving but accruing and maybe someday you will get your money but no one can predict the future so we have to wait and see what happens i guess.
from lehnq prospectus
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/806085/000104746905000357/a2149684z424b2.htm
Classification of the Trust
We intend to take the position that the trust will be classified as a grantor trust for United States federal income tax purposes and not as an association taxable as a corporation. As a condition to the issuance of the junior subordinated debt securities, Simpson Thacher & Bartlett will deliver an opinion that under current law and assuming full compliance with the terms of the trust's amended and restated declaration, and based upon certain facts and assumptions contained in such opinion, the trust will be classified as a grantor trust for United States federal income tax purposes. As a result, for United States federal income tax purposes, you generally will be treated as owning an undivided beneficial ownership interest in the junior subordinated debt securities. Thus, you will be required to include in your gross income your pro rata share of the interest income or original issue discount ("OID") that is paid or accrued on the junior subordinated debt securities. See "—Interest Income and Original Issue Discount."
Classification of the Junior Subordinated Debt Securities
Lehman Brothers Holdings, the trust and you (by your acceptance of a beneficial ownership interest in a preferred security) will agree to treat the junior subordinated debt securities as indebtedness for all United States tax purposes.
Interest Income and Original Issue Discount
We anticipate that the junior subordinated debt securities will not be issued with an issue price that is less than their stated redemption price at maturity. In this case, subject to the discussion below, the junior subordinated debt securities will not be subject to the special OID rules, at least upon initial issuance, so that you will generally be taxed on the stated interest on the junior subordinated debt securities as ordinary income at the time it is paid or accrued in accordance with your regular method of tax accounting.
If, however, Lehman Brothers Holdings exercises its right to defer payments of interest on the junior subordinated debt securities, the junior subordinated debt securities will become OID instruments at such time. In such case, you will be subject to the special OID rules described below. Once the junior subordinated debt securities become OID instruments, they will be taxed as OID instruments for as long as they remain outstanding.
um, no. these are not lehman ct's- $50,000 face value with 10.25% coupon rate that has been accruing for years now. why would i do that. i was asking for serious commentary regarding the tax implications on these lehman ct's and if you lehman ct's holders have any discussion about the tax implications.
serious question/discussion wanted in regards to ct's
- i have had to pay taxes on interest i have not received, but is supposedly accruing in a trust account for the deferred interest/divi payments on a capital trust i own in that company. i spoke w an accountant and tax professional in regards to this and i am not able to treat as zero 1099 oid thing. i have had to pay taxes on interest not received because the company has decided to defer payments on capital trusts-its been more than 5 years of deferred interest pymnts -i suppose they could issue a divi paymnt then defer again if they wanted for who knows how long?
i have not read any discussion here as to the tax implications on the lehman ct's. - per the lehnq prospectus, it is set up the same way as the other ct i own that isnt even in bk and i am paying taxes on accruing interest i havnt even received.
the deferrable feature on certain trust preferred shares may have a negative impact on investor’s tax liability. On trust preferreds or capital trust structures, the issuer may defer payments up to five years, ten years or longer without causing a default event. If payments are deferred, the holder is liable for tax on income accrued but not received.
http://www.raymondjames.com/preferred_securities.htm
i would appreciate any comments/discussion in regards to the tax implications on these lehman ct's.
website is @ http://linkenergy.com/index.php
see post 19027, i believe i got it from the lehman-dockett epiq site. i didnt make it up-you can read it at post 19027 sorry no link
with lehmans they have written- "rights of holders existing immediately prior to commencement date". this has me worried thinking shares purchased after commencement date may only be paid the payout percentage of the purchase price and not face value of security. your holder rights purchased after commencement date may not be the same as the holder rights immediately prior to c-date. i brought this up before, someone replied we are purchasing the rights, but if they are going to go by record date have we really purchased the rights existing b4 comencement date? its kind of the same with the divis i guess
found em on another list put out dec 21 2012 http://pcaobus.org/about/ops/documents/support%20fee/issuers_paid.pdf
my point being i think things are looking good here thats all. they are paying fees to the pcaobus so they must be doing business and have a revenue stream. its been really hard trying to figure out when/if the shares will have any value.
whats really neat is is in bold type-this means if LNKE is on this list, link energy is worth a minimum of $75,000,000.00, with the last known share structure of 14,475,321 a/s that puts a value of over $5.00 share/unit figured w minimum value of 75mil
Link Energy LLC probably worth much more i think.
GENERAL FAQS
1. How can I obtain a copy of the PCAOB's funding rules?
The full text of the PCAOB's rules is available under "Rules of the Board" at http://pcaobus.org/Rules/PCAOBRules/Pages/default.aspx. The funding rules are in Section 7 of the Rules.
2. What issuers are subject to the PCAOB and Financial Accounting Standards Board ("FASB")[2] issuer accounting support fees?
All companies that are issuers, as that term is defined in Section 2(a)(7) of the Sarbanes-Oxley Act of 2002, as amended ("Act"), as of the date on which the allocation of the issuer annual accounting support fees are set are subject to the issuer accounting support fees. Generally, Equity Issuers and Investment Company Issuers described below are assessed shares of the issuer accounting support fees greater than $0:
Equity Issuers — publicly traded companies with average, monthly equity market capitalization during the preceding calendar year of greater than $75 million based on all classes of common equity.
Investment Company Issuers — entities registered under Section 8 of the Investment Company Act of 1940 and issuers that have elected to be regulated as business development companies pursuant to Section 54 of the Investment Company Act of 1940 with average, monthly market capitalization or net asset value during the preceding calendar year of greater than $500 million.
The Board uses market capitalization and net asset value information from nationally-recognized market data sources.
page 15 from 3rd qrt 2012 all values 0 or n/a
http://www.yorkvillecapital.com/MLPCurrentQuarter2012.pdf
found this also, from may 2012, scroll down to page 7 and you will see link energy listed with market cap, yield, and current price of $0.00. mtd return -9.4%, qtd return -11.1%, ytd 128.6%.(yes+128.6%)-how can that be?
http://www.yorkvillecapital.com/Archives/MLP%20Beat%20May%202012.pdf
do you know anyone that would know how to explain why the numbers look like this?
no, dont think its fraud. the sec suspended hundreds of companies on the same day LNKE was suspended. the sec was trying to eliminate fraud, so it suspended all of those companies to see who is legit. since LNKE shares were reinstated i dont suspect fraud. check these out-http://www.petraintl.com/approved.html LINK ENERGY LLC approved brokerage, and this-http://google.brand.edgar-online.com/EFX_dll/EDGARpro.dll?FetchFilingHtmlSection1?SectionID=7207540-2964-134361&SessionID=OA2WHj8AoLr9qs7 -1.6 million LNKE shares in this they paid over 7 dollars a share. http://fotcc.com/ LNKE is an approved brokerage firm on this site as well, scroll down to the approved brokerage tab and see who is listed. linkenergy.com website has added secure login for administrators just in the last few days.
true. dont think LNKE is suspended anymore per reinstatement.trying to be positive here, im thinking maybe something will happen in febuary 2013, just a guess though. i dont think they would reinstate the shares for no reason. plus we know some big players hold plenty of shares. the reinstatement 5/29/12 and a partial website dated 2012 gives me some hope. LNKE is a grey market listing as of now.
Investopedia explains 'Grey Market'
1. For example, if a store owner is an unauthorized dealer of a certain high-end electronics brand, the product is considered to be sold in the grey market. If the product is illegal, it would be selling on the "black market".
2. The grey market is an over-the-counter market where dealers may execute orders for preferred customers as well as provide support for a new issue before it is actually issued. This activity allows underwriters and the issuer to determine demand and price the securities accordingly before the IPO.
Read more: http://www.investopedia.com/terms/g/greymarket.asp#ixzz2FLGOX7KD
heres the link, scroll down to page 9
http://www.dtcc.com/downloads/legal/imp_notices/2012/nscc/otc/OTC-102.pdf
LNKE 12k sec reinstatement 5/29/12. appears a website is being created "http://linkenergy.com/" dated 2012 at bottom of webpage. you may have to copy and paste webpage in address bar to get webpage to appear. appears webpage in still being built.
so..... if you didnt own shares immediately prior to the commencement date, do holders of equity interest acquired after that date have same "rights of pymnt" . do you have the post#s on this board i could read thru discussing the topic? tia- or approx dates