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I tried to PM Happy and he has ME on ignore...Turned off his PM's from me as well. Oh well, I was going to be completely civil as well...
Even close. RSHN did pretty well this week holding it's own. I think even the MM's are starting to realize that they may now be able to make more money with this stock if they run it...
Just waiting for that PR, which by the way, will be here on Monday, NO DOUBT. Same time as the others...LOL! (Sarcasm)
Nice to see us green at least!
Well, I know that I'm not breaking the law.
I sincerely doubt that anyone at Rush is breaking the law either. I think that there are some folks out there that believe rumors, and then pass those rumors along as though they are fact.
This is just my opinion.
There are ONLY two scenarios to this little argument that transpired today...
1) Some type of insider info at Rush to alert select individuals of a "big" PR or event. Those select individuals then can't keep their traps closed and spill the beans. (sort of) Very Unlikely.
2) One individual has a strong feeling that something is going to happen and makes that feeling known on message board.
Another investor takes this feeling as FACT, and not only spreads the word, but defends it like someone just insulted his mother.
IMO, scenario #2 seems more likely, as it is not an unusual occurance on any of these boards.
Agree. But how does the general public find out this information without it coming from somebody within the company?
Tick, tock, tick, tock...LOL!
All this waiting around for PR's sucks! Does anyone use any real time alerts to your cell phone for notification? I have Yahoo alerts set up but they are 20m delayed, and lots of times re-send out PR information months later.
Very nice. I saw the post on their site about Coke, but didn't realize that they quit selling Pepsi as well.
Very interesting.
Wal-Mart just put Coke in their place as well.
http://promomagazine.com/news/coca-cola_sues_021606/index.html
http://money.cnn.com/2006/06/08/news/companies/coke_walmart/index.htm?cnn=yes
Ha ha Coke...the dynasty is beginning to crumble.
Goooooo Rush!!!
OT: Not here, but wish I were today!!! LOL
Running out of time for a Friday PR! Everybody cross your fingers...I'm going to open a XXX for good luck!
Just got finished firing off an email...Will let everyone know what I hear back.
This has been discussed numerous times in the past, however, my thought is that this deal is already done.
The PR stated that the deal has already been signed, and the only thing that was delayed was the stock transfer. My feeling, after the myspace fiasco, was that RSHN has already told it's investors that the deal was done, so no need to tell them that stock has been transferred.
To do that would risk investor backlash with the typical "another fluff PR BS"...
This is just my opinion, however, Lynch has been SEEN with Corr at trade shows by IHUB members, long after the stock transfer time. Why would Lynch do this if he was no longer affiliated with RushNet?
JMO...We've all got'em.
I agree. I think there is so much going on behind the scenes right now that a good PR in the somewhat near future should be almost imminent. When? Same answer I ALWAYS give...When it comes out. Not a minute before or after.
Anyone that goes back and picks through all of the PR's for the past 9 months can see that this is slowly growing, and progressing exactly as Bob Corr said it would. The future looks very bright for RSHN IMO, and I am glad I am in the position I am with their stock. (Granted, I wish I held my shares at .0001 rather than where I do now, but...)
This board is for discussion. It is for investors to do DD. It is for newbies to come and (unfortunately) blindly listen to what is posted and believe it as gospel. It is NOT a place for pumpers / bashers to come and spew out unsubstantiated claims with nothing to back them up. If it your opinion, SAY it's your opinion. Not that it is FACT.
Rant off...
Goooooo RUSH!!! JMO LOL!
Haven't tried it, but I have been seeing it EVERYWHERE!
Couldn't agree with you more about M&D. With the right marketing, you could sell polished dog doo-doo and make a fortune...(Pet Rock?)
On the other hand, with the wrong marketing, you couldn't sell BMW's for the same price as Yugo's.
I think Rush is on the right track. It isn't going to happen overnight, but with the influx of money from Lynch, I think we will see great things this summer moving in the right direction.
AK, I agree with most everything you say in your post, however, I have to respectfully disagree on a few topics.
HappySoul is doing nothing constructive for this board. As you stated, "If you have PR proof before it comes out and act on it, it is defined as Insider Trading....I serious doubt that anyone want to go to jail esp for a pinkie stock...."
So, either he DOES have proof of a PR and is breaking the law (very unlikely), or he is pretty much full of it. My suspicion is the latter. If you do have proof, your'e breaking the law, if you don't have proof, your'e speading rumors. Either way, neither really help the members of this board, correct?
HappySoul himself stated as the major reason he was posting to begin with was to "cheer us up" because the board seemed so negative. When I ask him to substantiate his claims, he won't, and he gets extremely defensive and negative. He can't back up his claims, so instead he lashes out. How is that beneficial to the board?
Good news or bad, I'm willing to look at or post any DD that is out there. I don't however, put any credence into anyone that simply posts "rumors" with nothing substantial to back them up.
Gamood says it best actually..."Hope is not an investment strategy".
Thanks again MadTony and Slingblade for all you guys do to keep us informed AND entertained!
Well, if that's the case, I guess he's right, I am a moron cause I couldn't figure that out! LOL
Anyways, moving on...
I agree exactly with what you are saying. The big two (Coke and Pepsi) are buying up a lot of the smaller "specialty" companies to market their products and jump on the bandwagon.
Hansen now also produces a drink called "Energy Water". I saw it in the store yesterday and got a little alarmed. After reading the label, it looks like nothing more than gatorade without the coloring. Electrolytes and the such, but also lots of artificial chemicals. Not to worry.
Yeah, he'll be back though...YankeeBill, DMBurgess. Like a phantom, I'm sure he is a man of many faces.
And that is supposed to mean?
Good for you...
Post number 14. See you tomorrow FREE-BOY!
BTW. I'm done with you as well, on IGNORE.
I refuse to have a battle of wits with an unarmed person.
Go back to myspace.com.
Thank you kindly sir, you as well!
Why's that? You can't PM back. You haven't paid for a membership because after you finish pumping BS you drop that name like a rock and move on to another...
Your MO is older than Dick Clark in a previous life...
Later tater.
Apparently you didn't realize that my post was completely sarcastic...
A parody, if you will, of your posts, and the absurdity they represent.
sar·cas·tic
Pronunciation: sär-'kas-tik
Function: adjective
1 : having the character of sarcasm <sarcastic criticism>
2 : given to the use of sarcasm : CAUSTIC <a sarcastic critic>
- sar·cas·ti·cal·ly /-ti-k(&lE/ adverb
synonyms SARCASTIC, SATIRIC, IRONIC, SARDONIC mean marked by bitterness and a power or will to cut or sting. SARCASTIC implies an intentional inflicting of pain by deriding, taunting, or ridiculing <a critic famous mainly for his sarcastic remarks>. SATIRIC implies that the intent of the ridiculing is censure and reprobation <a satiric look at contemporary sexual mores>. IRONIC implies an attempt to be amusing or provocative by saying usually the opposite of what is meant <made the ironic observation that the government could always be trusted>. SARDONIC implies scorn, mockery, or derision that is manifested by either verbal or facial expression <surveyed the scene with a sardonic smile>.
par·o·dy
Pronunciation: 'par-&-dE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -dies
Etymology: Latin parodia, from Greek parOidia, from para- + aidein to sing -- more at ODE
1 : a literary or musical work in which the style of an author or work is closely imitated for comic effect or in ridicule
2 : a feeble or ridiculous imitation
Even better.
Post # 12436
The PR "is supposed to be around the regular time"...
So, not only can this feller pinpoint the exact day, (well, not EXACTLY) but he can also tell you what TIME!!!
WOW! Well, if this doesn't work out for him, newspapers are always hiring folks to write "horror-scopes" LOL!!!
Well, certainly not to knock you, but if timetable is not so much of a concern...
I will GUARANTEE that a PR will be coming out.
PS...You're not in the Keys are you?
Hmmmmm...
If you say so. I just paraphrased in five sentences everything that you have contributed to this board in the short time you have been here.
If that is shocking to you, so be it. The truth CAN be shocking at times.
Okay everyone, I just got this from a the highest sources. A PR WILL be out this past week. If not, we will have it FOR SURE today. If it doesn't come out today, don't worry, it was just a slight delay, and it will DEFINATELY be out next week, and it will be BIG! I can't tell you any more than that.
Riiiighhht.
HFCS Article...
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/chronicle/archive/2004/02/18/FDGS24VKMH1.DTL
We're drowning in high fructose corn syrup. Do the risks go beyond our waistline?
Kim Severson, Chronicle Staff Writer
Wednesday, February 18, 2004
An overweight America may be fixated on fat and obsessed with carbs, but nutritionists say the real problem is much sweeter -- we're awash in sugar.
Not just any sugar, but high fructose corn syrup.
The country eats more sweetener made from corn than from sugarcane or beets, gulping it down in drinks as well as in frozen food and baked goods. Even ketchup is laced with it.
Almost all nutritionists finger high fructose corn syrup consumption as a major culprit in the nation's obesity crisis. The inexpensive sweetener flooded the American food supply in the early 1980s, just about the time the nation's obesity rate started its unprecedented climb.
The question is why did it make us so fat. Is it simply the Big Gulp syndrome -- that we're eating too many empty calories in ever-increasing portion sizes? Or does the fructose in all that corn syrup do something more insidious -- literally short-wire our metabolism and force us to gain weight?
The debate can divide a group of nutritional researchers almost as fast as whether the low-carb craze is fact or fad.
Loading high fructose corn syrup into increasingly larger portions of soda and processed food has packed more calories into us and more money into food processing companies, say nutritionists and food activists. But some health experts argue that the issue is bigger than mere calories. The theory goes like this: The body processes the fructose in high fructose corn syrup differently than it does old-fashioned cane or beet sugar, which in turn alters the way metabolic-regulating hormones function. It also forces the liver to kick more fat out into the bloodstream.
The end result is that our bodies are essentially tricked into wanting to eat more and at the same time, we are storing more fat.
"One of the issues is the ease with which you can consume this stuff," says Carol Porter, director of nutrition and food services at UC San Francisco. "It's not that fructose itself is so bad, but they put it in so much food that you consume so much of it without knowing it."
A single 12-ounce can of soda has as much as 13 teaspoons of sugar in the form of high fructose corn syrup. And because the amount of soda we drink has more than doubled since 1970 to about 56 gallons per person a year, so has the amount of high fructose corn syrup we take in. In 2001, we consumed almost 63 pounds of it, according to the U.S. Department of Agriculture.
The USDA suggests most of us limit our intake of added sugar -- that's everything from the high fructose corn syrup hidden in your breakfast cereal to the sugar cube you drop into your after-dinner espresso -- to about 10 to 12 teaspoons a day. But we're not doing so well. In 2000, we ate an average of 31 teaspoons a day, which was more than 15 percent of our caloric intake. And much of that was in sweetened drinks.
Beyond soda
So, the answer is to just avoid soda, right? Unfortunately, it's not that simple, because the inexpensive, versatile sweetener has crept into plenty of other places -- foods you might not expect to have any at all. A low-fat, fruit-flavored yogurt, for example, can have 10 teaspoons of fructose-based sweetener in one serving.
Because high fructose corn syrup mixes easily, extends shelf-life and is as much as 20 percent cheaper than other sources of sugar, large-scale food manufacturers love it. It can help prevent freezer burn, so you'll find it on the labels of many frozen foods. It helps breads brown and keeps them soft, which is why hot dog buns and even English muffins hold unexpected amounts.
The question remains just how much more dangerous high fructose corn syrup is than other sugars.
Fructose, as the name implies, is the sugar found naturally in fruit. It can be extracted, turned into granules and used like sugar in the kitchen. It used to be considered a healthier alternative to sucrose -- plain old table sugar. It's sweeter, so less is needed to achieve the same taste. Diabetics use it because fructose doesn't stimulate insulin production, so blood sugar levels remain stable.
The process of pulling sugar from cornstarch wasn't perfected until the early 1970s, when Japanese researchers developed a reliable way to turn cornstarch into syrup sweet enough to compete with liquid sugar. After some tinkering, they landed on a formula that was 55 percent fructose and 45 percent glucose -- sweet enough and cheap enough to make most soda companies jump from liquid sugar to high fructose corn syrup by the 1980s.
The results were dramatic. -- a whopping increase of 4,080 percent.
Journalist Greg Critser lays out a compelling case against high fructose corn syrup in his 2003 book, "Fat Land: How Americans Became the Fattest People in the World." He argues that federal policies that aimed to stabilize food prices and support corn production in the 1970s led to a glut of corn and then to high fructose corn syrup. With a cheaper way to sweeten food, producers pumped up the size and amount of sweet snacks and drinks on the market and increased profits.
It's not natural
Critser writes that despite the food industry's arguments that sugar is sugar, whether fructose or sucrose, no group "has yet refuted the growing scientific concern that, when all is said and done, fructose ... is about the furthest thing from natural that one can imagine, let alone eat."
Although some researchers have long been suspicious that too much fructose can cause problems, the latest case against high fructose corn syrup began in earnest a few years ago. Dr. George Bray, principal investigator of the Diabetes Prevention Program at Louisiana State University Medical Center told the International Congress on Obesity that in 1980, just after high fructose corn syrup was introduced in mass quantities, relatively stable obesity rates began to climb. By 2000, they had doubled.
Further, the American Journal of Clinical Nutrition in 2002 published research that showed that teenagers' milk consumption between 1965 and 1996 decreased by 36 percent, while soda consumption increased by more than 200 percent. Bray argues that without calcium, which nutritionists agree can help the body regulate weight, kids got fatter. He says that he could find no other single combination of environmental or food changes that were as significant to the rise in obesity.
Other studies by researchers at UC Davis and the University of Michigan have shown that consuming fructose, which is more readily converted to fat by the liver, increases the levels of fat in the bloodstream in the form of triglycerides.
And unlike other types of carbohydrate made up of glucose, fructose does not stimulate the pancreas to produce insulin. Peter Havel, a nutrition researcher at UC Davis who studies the metabolic effects of fructose, has also shown that fructose fails to increase the production of leptin, a hormone produced by the body's fat cells.
Both insulin and leptin act as signals to the brain to turn down the appetite and control body weight. And in another metabolic twist, Havel's research shows that fructose does not appear to suppress the production of ghrelin, a hormone that increases hunger and appetite.
"Because fructose in isolation doesn't activate the hormones that regulate body weight as do other types of carbohydrate composed of glucose, consuming a diet high in fructose could lead to taking in more calories and, over time, to weight gain," he says.
However, Havel isn't convinced high fructose corn syrup is by itself the problem. That's in part because it is composed of 55 percent fructose and 45 percent glucose, which is similar to the 50-50 combination of fructose and glucose found in table sugar. Havel's studies have focused on fructose by itself and not as part of a high fructose corn syrup mixture.
"Whether there is an important difference in the effects of consuming beverages sweetened with a mixture of 55 percent as opposed to 50 percent fructose would be hard to measure," he says. "Additional studies are needed to better understand the nutritional impact of consuming different types of sugars in humans."
Still, other researchers are finding new problems with high fructose corn syrup. A study in last month's Journal of the National Cancer Institute suggests that women whose diet was high in total carbohydrate and fructose intake had an increased risk of colorectal cancer. And Dr. Mel Heyman, chief of pediatric gastroenterology and nutrition at UCSF, is seeing sick children whose bodies have been overloaded with fructose from naturally occurring fructose in fruit juice combined with soda and processed food.
"The way the body handles glucose is different than fructose,' he says. "It can overload the intestines' ability to absorb carbohydrate by giving it too much fructose. That can cause cramps, bloating and loose stools."
The jury's still out
Like others in the field, he says there is much to discover in how sugar works, but he disagrees that high fructose corn syrup is somehow reprogramming our bodies toward obesity. Rather, he says, we're just eating too much of it.
Nutrition theory holds that the basic make-up of fructose-laced corn syrup is not much different than table sugar. They react about the same in the body, says Dr. Walter Willett, a professor of epidemiology and nutrition at Harvard School of Public Health. "There are some modest differences in metabolism, but I don't think fructose per se is the culprit."
Neither do the food companies that use it in copious amounts.
Says Stephanie Childs, a spokesperson for the Grocery Manufacturers Association: "At the end of the day, how any sweetener affects your weight depends on how many calories you are taking in overall. Overemphasizing one nutrient at the detriment of others is not going to solve the problem."
Even some leading nutrition reformers aren't convinced that high fructose corn syrup is of itself the issue. The bigger battle, says Michael Jacobson, executive director of the Center for Science in the Public Interest, a consumer advocacy group, is to get added sugars listed on food labels with a percentage of daily value. That means a consumer could look at a package and see that, for example, one soda provides almost all the sugar a person should eat in a day.
"It simply comes down to this,' he says. "We're eating too much refined sugars, be it sucrose or high fructose corn syrup or any other refined sugar."
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A sugar glossary
Here's a rundown of the various types of sugar you'll find on product labels.
Brown sugar. Sugar crystals contained in a molasses syrup, with natural flavor and color; 91 to 96 percent sucrose
Corn syrup. Made from cornstarch. Mostly glucose. Can have maltose
Dextrose. Commonly known as corn sugar and grape sugar. Naturally occurring form of glucose
Fructose. Sugar found in fruit and honey. Sweetest natural sugar
Galactose. Sugar found linked to glucose to form lactose, or milk sugar
Glucose. Also called dextrose. The human body's primary source of energy. Most of the carbohydrates you eat are converted to glucose in the body.
High fructose corn syrup. Derived from cornstarch, usually a combination of 55 percent fructose and 45 percent sucrose. Treated with an enzyme that converts glucose to fructose, which results in a sweeter product. Used in soft drinks, baked goods, jelly, syrups, fruits and desserts
Honey. Sweet syrupy fluid made by bees from the nectar collected from flowers and stored in nests or hives as food. Composed of fructose and glucose
Lactose. Sugar found in milk and milk products that is made of glucose and galactose
Maltose. Also called malt sugar. Used in the fermentation of alcohol by converting starch to sugar
Maple syrup. A concentrated sucrose solution made from mature sugar maple tree sap that flows in spring. Mostly replaced by pancake syrup, a mixture of sucrose and artificial maple flavorings
Molasses. Thick syrup left after making sugar from sugarcane. Brown in color with a high sugar concentration
Powdered or confectioner's sugar. Granulated sugar that has been pulverized. Available in several degrees of fineness
Sucrose. Commonly called cane sugar, table sugar or simply sugar
Sugar (granulated). Refined cane or beet sugar; 100 percent sucrose
Turbinado sugar. Raw sugar that has been partially refined and washed
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Awash in corn syrup
It should come as no shock to most consumers that a Pepsi or a Fig Newton has plenty of sugar - most of it from high fructose corn syrup. But what's surprising is the products where the sweetener hides out and how disguised it can be by the deceptively small serving size listed on the nutrition label. Although the numbers below show teaspoons of sugar per serving, people often eat more than one serving. The U.S. Department of Agriculture advises most people to limit themselves to 10 to 12 teaspoons of added sugars a day.
How much is too much?
The list below shows how much sugar, mostly in the form of high fructose corn syrup, is in each of these single servings.
Sunkist soda: 10 1/2 teaspoons of sugar
Berkeley Farms low-fat yogurt with fruit: 10 teaspoons of sugar
Mott's applesauce: 5 teaspoons of sugar
Slim-Fast chocolate cookie dough meal bar: 5 teaspoons of sugar
1 tablespoon ketchup: 1 teaspoon of sugar
Hansen's Super Vita orange-carrot Smoothie: 10 teaspoons of sugar
A blood glucose test...measures the AMOUNT of sugar in your blood...i.e., the commmon term "blood sugar".
Both glucose and fructose are common sweeteners. Mixed together in the right combinations, they become HFCS, or "High Fructose Corn Syrup", or "High Fructose Glucose". Definately not something we want to see on a Rush label.
To be more scientific:
Glucose (Glc), a monosaccharide (or simple sugar), is one of the most important carbohydrates. The cell uses it as a source of energy and metabolic intermediate. Glucose is one of the main products of photosynthesis and starts cellular respiration. The natural form (D-glucose) is also referred to as dextrose, especially in the food industry.
Fructose (or levulose) is a simple sugar (monosaccharide) found in many foods and one of the three most important blood sugars along with glucose and galactose. Honey; tree fruits; berries; melons; and some root vegetables, such as beets, sweet potatoes, parsnips and onions, contain fructose, usually in combination with sucrose and glucose. Fructose is also derived from the digestion of sucrose, a disaccharide consisting of glucose and fructose that is broken down by enzymes during digestion. Fructose is the sweetest naturally occurring sugar, estimated to be twice as sweet as sucrose.
Fructose is often recommended for, and consumed by, people with diabetes mellitus or hypoglycemia, because it has a very low Glycemic Index (GI 23) relative to cane sugar (sucrose). However, this benefit is tempered by concern that fructose may have an adverse effect on plasma lipid and uric acid levels, and the resulting higher blood levels of fructose can be damaging to proteins (see below). The low GI is due to the unique and lengthy metabolic pathway of fructose, which involves phosphorylation and a multi-step enzymatic process in the liver.
High fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is a newer and sweeter form of corn syrup. Like ordinary corn syrup, the high fructose variety is made from corn starch using enzymes. The production process of HFCS was developed by Japanese researchers in the 1970s. HFCS was rapidly introduced in many processed foods and soda drinks in the US over the period of about 1975–1985, and usage continues to increase as sugar use decreases at a nearly one to one level (Bray, 2004 & U.S. Department of Agriculture, Economic Research Service, Sugar and Sweetener Yearbook series, Tables 50–52.).
By increasing fructose content of corn syrup (glucose), the syrup is more comparable to table sugar (sucrose). This makes it useful to manufacturers as a possible substitute for sugar in soft drinks and other processed foods. Unlike sucrose, HFCS consists of a mixture of glucose and fructose, which doesn't require an enzymatic step to break it down before absorption in the intestine.
Through enzymatic processing, the fructose content of corn syrup can be increased to yield a product with similar properties to table sugar. Common commercial grades of high fructose corn syrup include fructose contents of 42%, 55%, or 90%. The 55% grade is most commonly used in soft drinks and equivalent to caster sugar.
In May 2006, the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) threatened[1] to file a lawsuit against Cadbury Schweppes for labeling 7UP as "All Natural" despite containing high fructose corn syrup. While the FDA has no definition of "Natural", CSPI claims that HFCS is not a “natural” ingredient due to the high level of processing required to produce it.
High-fructose corn syrup (HFCS) is produced by processing corn starch to yield glucose, and then processing the glucose to produce a syrup with a higher percentage of fructose.
First, cornstarch is treated with alpha-amylase to produce shorter chains of sugars called polysaccharides.
Next, an enzyme called glucoamylase breaks the sugar chains down even further to yield the simple sugar glucose.
The third enzyme, glucose-isomerase, converts glucose to a mixture of about 42% fructose and 50–52% glucose with some other sugars mixed in. While alpha-amylase and glucoamylase are added directly to the slurry, glucose-isomerase is packed into columns and the sugar mixture is then passed over it. This 42–43% fructose glucose mixture is then subjected to a liquid chromatography step where the fructose is enriched to approximately 90%. The 90% fructose is then back-blended with 42% fructose to achieve a 55% fructose final product. Numerous ion-exchange and evaporation steps are also part of the overall process.
After reading all that, it sounds like Lynch may actually have a leg to stand on...
OT: You aren't kidding Rckhnd! I've hunted bear in Norcal ( Willow Creek, Six Rivers area )many times, but this was the first time I ever went out with bow. I brought my S&W 460 XVR with me for just that reason. I figured I might need it...and I did. :)
BTW...I've hunted in your neck of the wood quite a few times as well. Have some Firefighter friends in the Grants Pass and Jacksonville areas.
Believe it or not, that XVR is a great 200yd deer gun also!
Hope you know I'm just playing.
You are now Ninja...go for it.
Very experienced trader...Check out his profile. He has been following Rush since early February, and has talked to Bob Corr several times.
Doesn't post here much, if ever. He usually can be found at the Hunchtraders board.
Relax, I said I was giving you the benefit of the doubt...GEESH!
Doesn't look like it's coming today...
Not trying to piss you off, just ribbing you a bit.
I emailed back and forth with RULiquid this morning and he was shooting an email off to Bob Corr. He has spoken to him many times in the past...
Said he would email me as soon as he heard something.
OT: Nah, no ducks or rabbits for me. I do alternate usually every year out West however, between bear and elk. Last year it was bear with the bow. When I got him in my sights, needless to say, I was a little shaky...Not a very good release. Bear was PISSED.
Out came the big guns...LITERALLY!