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Modlam, on ihub's level II the buys and sells look pretty even, with some unidentified trades (per usual).
Coasti, GlobeTel sued Altvater first - 8 months earlier!
GLOBETEL COMMUNICATIONS CORP vs ALTVATER, ULRICH DOCKET - PARTIES
2007-20439-CA-01
13-2007-CA-020439-0000-01
N/A 27
GLOBETEL COMMUNICATIONS CORP PN 01 14 07/05/07
ALTVATER, ULRICH
ALTVATER, ULRICH vs GLOBETEL COMMUNICATIONS CORP DOCKET - PARTIES
2008-9021-CA-01
13-2008-CA-009021-0000-01
N/A 27
GLOBETEL COMMUNICATIONS CORP DN 01 3 02/20/08
GlobeTel/Sanswire Websites just fine in USA!
To all, it's a well-known fact that shyster lawyers like Milberg Weiss have been bringing bogus class-action lawsuits against American companies for years. A nice racket, and it's great to see that some of them will finally be getting some jailtime.
It's also a well-known fact that insurance carrier lawyers
defending companies in these class-action attacks often settle, no matter the merits of the case, because ultimately settling with these sleaze bags is cheaper than fighting them - that's why it was such a good racket for so long.
The choice to settle is a dollar and cents decision and has nothing to do with the merits of the case.
As a shareholder, I would be extremely upset if the new management paid the old accountants if the prior accountants did not do their job and were actually part of the problem!
I would love to see the naysayers unpleasantly surprised. Would make my day!
Yes. Nothing as of 7:08 on Alphatrade RTQ.
Who knows what the MM's are up to? Look at the AH spread - .06 to 1.10 - much higher ask than usual, even for AH.
Evidently, an unbiased, independent third party disagrees with your characterization of the HotZone technology, Axel:
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla., Nov. 7 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/-- GlobeTel Communications Corp. (Pink Sheets: GTEM) has been informed that the 2007 Coalition Warrior Interoperability Demonstration (CWID) has yielded a summary of conclusions in its Final Report regarding GlobeTel's proprietary HotZone wireless communications technology.
CWID's Warfighter Operator team's conclusions indicated that 'HotZone met its Integrated Communication CWID Objective by using VoIP DECT phones and providing a new technology that streamlined operational decision processes and enhanced the commander's command and control. HotZone's network easily handled broadband data, voice, and video.'
The Technical Interoperability team at CWID concluded, 'HZ4010 successfully provided an ad hoc network infrastructure for voice, video, and data applications and overall worked as advertised.' It also went on to say, 'If the government sponsor and/or vendor plan to interoperate the HZ4010 with Department of Defense systems, recommend the government sponsor and/or HotZone 4010/4020 vendor pursue Interoperability Certification in accordance with Chairman, Joint Chiefs of Staff Instruction 6212.01D, 'Interoperability and Supportability of Information Technology and National Security Systems,' 8 March 2006.'
A copy of CWID's Final Report is available at www.cwid.js.mil/public/CWID07FR/htmlfiles/itdir.html, as well as on the GlobeTel Web site, www.globetel.net.
Understood and agree with you. As a taxpayer, I want scarce resources to go toward solar-powered UAV's, not expensive manned aircraft.
GlobeTel is working with the Navy, not the Army. EOM
Up almost 18% is not a fantasy. EOM
And, if that is the actual text of the letter, the poor spelling alone would doom his request for funding.
Not what I'm talking about, sorry.
There goes that "667" trade signal again - someone once posted what the MM's 665, 666, and 667 signals usually meant.
Thanks for the DD. Very interesting, Nilremerlin, especially in light of the upcoiming testing this summer with the Navy.
To all IMO, Dr. Muntz's Raytheon connections certainly appeared to have been productive for GlobeTel. It's all there in the news releases regarding airship testing and Raytheon's presence. Nothing in my posts quoted says a word about "huge contracts" - that is a flat-out lie, and I don't like my words being twisted beyond recognition. I'm done with this subject. I do have a life.
You, sir, are fabricating. Show us the post you falsely claim that I wrote.
Lots of volume suddenly and up one/tenth of a cent now.
Thanks for the great DD, Nilremerlin! Longs, study Nils post on BAMS carefully and follow the thread back as he suggests, and you will see why he concludes the following at the end of that post:
"IMHO, our LOE is for BAMS for communications relay."
Nilremerlin, you have been following these developments for a long while, and your scholarship is much appreciated. I see you wrote that first post at 3AM - talk about burning the midnight oil. Watch out for IED's in NYC!
Since they've already begun testing, I suggest you call them and ask them. IR contact info is right on the news release.
BBB, so what? Sanswire/TAO is beyond this - they have conducted untethered flights with the SAS-51 and now are conducting untethered tests for a new, higher altitude airship:
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. and STUTTGART, Germany, Feb. 14, 2008 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- Sanswire Networks, subsidiary of GlobeTel Communications Corp. (Pink Sheets:GTEM), and TAO-Technologies GmbH today announced that they've begun testing a lighter-than-air (LTA) platform capable of operating at altitudes of approximately 65,000 ft. The program's ultimate goal is to produce long endurance, LTA vehicles that provide various security- and communications-related services from the stratosphere for extended time periods.
The current phase of the program consists of several untethered air- and ground-based tests of the proprietary components and systems. Future phases will include the unveiling of the stratospheric vehicle, and testing at gradually increasing altitudes that would lead to the vehicle's launch into the stratosphere. Development and testing is ongoing, with the ultimate goal being one of the first controlled stratospheric flight and, as important, controlled return and recovery.
Volume is certainly up today (and climbing). Very interesting.
And, I guess some here have also missed the links to numerous videos of "skyworm" sightings filmed in different locales around the world. Those links have been posted many, many times. Sure looks untethered to me.
I think someone here missed the latest news release mentioning UNTETHERED tests of a LTA platform:
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. and STUTTGART, Germany, Feb. 14, 2008 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- Sanswire Networks, subsidiary of GlobeTel Communications Corp. (Pink Sheets:GTEM), and TAO-Technologies GmbH today announced that they've begun testing a lighter-than-air (LTA) platform capable of operating at altitudes of approximately 65,000 ft. The program's ultimate goal is to produce long endurance, LTA vehicles that provide various security- and communications-related services from the stratosphere for extended time periods.
The current phase of the program consists of several untethered air- and ground-based tests of the proprietary components and systems.
And, satellites are also very expensive and have a short life span, some an extremely short life span AND very expensive. Just ask Lockheed about that spy satellite that was blown out of the sky last week. That was a Lockheed product. It cost millions and malfunctioned almost immediately - a very expensive piece of junk, not counting the expense of bringing it down.
Sami, given the new customer objective of 25,000 feet (ORCA is the Son of the Optical RF Combined Link Experiment [ORCLE]. This effort restructures ORCLE to meet a new customer requirement that requires aircraft operation in a more challenging atmospheric environment located at 25,000 ft MSL), it appears that the bew TAO/Sanswire LTA announced on Feb. 14th (see below), and not the SAS-51 which has a maximum altitude of 3,000 feet, would meet the ORCA program requirements noted above.
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. and STUTTGART, Germany, Feb. 14, 2008 (PRIME NEWSWIRE) -- Sanswire Networks, subsidiary of GlobeTel Communications Corp. (Pink Sheets:GTEM), and TAO-Technologies GmbH today announced that they've begun testing a lighter-than-air (LTA) platform capable of operating at altitudes of approximately 65,000 ft. The program's ultimate goal is to produce long endurance, LTA vehicles that provide various security- and communications-related services from the stratosphere for extended time periods.
The upcoming Navy tests of the SAS-51 which " . . . seeks to demonstrate a 10 kg. (22 lbs.) telecommunications package aboard the SAS-51 at altitudes of up to 2,000 ft. that would have a range of transmission of up to 100 miles" appear unrelated to ORCA, unless the SAS-51 is a testing platform for the communications system and the new TAO/Sanswire LTA platform will be the final operational platform (meeting the ORCA 25,000 feet requirements).
Correction a 23,000-share buy followed by other trades - a dance between .10 and .11, what are the MM's up to . . .
Bid and ask just jumped and a large buy (30,500) also just went through, followed by a 4,000-share trade . . . .
I believe that Mide misquoted Jon's words (not on purpose, of course). The exact words in the news release re the second phase of the TAO/Sanswire agreement were as follows:
FT. LAUDERDALE, Fla. and STUTTGART, Germany, Nov. 27 /PRNewswire/ -- GlobeTel Communications Corp. (Pink Sheets: GTEM) and TAO Technologies GmbH today announced that, pursuant to their previously announced agreement in principle, TAO has agreed to convey to GlobeTel, within 10 days, certain licenses and sales rights to its lighter-than-air, remotely operated airships for a combination of cash and GlobeTel shares. The second phase of the transaction, which will include the formation of Sanswire-TAO GmbH as previously contemplated, is expected to occur within ninety days.
Thanks, I appreciate it very much!
Coincidence? Dr. K's published report regarding the Airworm and stating "Up to now, no long-term experience has been gained on airship . . .." (with the next page detailing that experience removed from the report) is dated 2006. Note in imaswami's chronology below the date that Proton received government funding for more airship fuel cell work - 2006.
Posted by: imawswami
In reply to: siriuslyricher who wrote msg# 86762 Date:9/7/2007 9:47:07 PM
Post #of 99362
Sanswire partners with DOE #86679
Please,
If you are just logging on today, refer briefly to post 86679 to get your bearings.....thanks
More's the Better
Or:
How a front door agreement with Proton Energy Group lead Sanswire into a backdoor partnership with the US Department of Energy.
It begins as a question. Why the connection with Sanswire's airships and Elisra, or Trident 2008, or a repeat at CWID in 2008? We tentatively partner with Raytheon and march our airship know-how(?) to major defense conferences in the US, yet even now our stock and company appear in the toilet.
Little information comes to our aid, but the very survival of a typical pink sheet stock demands it to scream PR's almost daily. We seem to either the locked jeweled box or simply ground beef for market efficiencies.
Maybe this would had clarity.
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Abbreviated chronology GTEM 2005
April 2005 Sanswire One was exhibited in San Bernardino. Announced 90-120 days to FAA approval
June 2005 Sanswire One was moved to Plant 42 in preparation for testing at adjacent Edwards AFB
June 2005 Sanswire purchased two lithium batteries from a source
July 2005 (approx. 90 days after exhibit) Sanswire signed a Cooperative Research and Development Agreement (CRDA) with Proton Energy Systems. Under the agreement, Proton was to provide prototype regenerative fuel cell systems and technical support and Sanswire the airship platform for testing and engineering inputs to tailor the RFC (Regenerative Fuel Cell) solution.
[Note: prior to 2005 and continuing beyond, Proton Energy had been involved with DOE and Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory in their fuel cell work, with special emphasis in HAA]
June 2006 Proton received gov't funding for more airship fuel cell work.
February 2007 Lawrence Livermore National Laboratory released Persistent Monitoring Platforms:
Final Report.
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So we see the partnership between Sanswire and Proton, but how does the DOE figure into this?
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Cooperative Research and Development Agreement (CRDA)
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What is that?
"The CRADA is a partnering tool that allows federal laboratories to work with US industries, academia and other organizations on cooperative R&D projects. The CRADA provides flexibility in structuring project contributions, intellectual property rights, and in protecting proprietary information and CRADA research results."
Lawrence Livermore Laboratory is the DOE's baby.
So, at this point, it appears that Sanswire was part of some LLNL project (along with Proton). But which one and more importantly, what came of the R&D partnership.
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PERSISTENT MONITORING PLATFORMS:
Final Report Feb. 2007
http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:6GJytee_eHwJ:www.osti.gov/bridge/servlets/purl/902249-1QSCI8/+%2...
[Note: this project existed well before Sanswire entered the picture]
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What were the goals of said project?
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"We will develop and validate the physics models to prove the principles involved in a solar thermal-powered aircraft, in preparation for constructing a prototype scale-model to demonstrate station-keeping capability at sea level.
Successful demonstration of his technology would set the stage for construction of a stratospheric
altitude prototype capable of circumnavigating the globe.
We will also develop physics models for thermal transport, materials interactions, loss mechanisms, and engine performance in the stratosphere's environment."
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And what happened?
It appears success. As the report states, they realized early on the heavier-than-air crafts could not cut it in the Stratosphere, so the focus went to airships. Judging by these quotes, would have to say research, development, and demonstrations must have gone well:
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"The primary technical challenge is to be able to store sufficient energy accumulated during the day that overnight flight is enabled. It is this challenge that was addressed and met in the course of the work of this project."
"As a direct result of the research and development work pursued in the course of this project, several pending patents have been produced. These include those listed in the following table:"
"While these patents are pending, enabling details will not be published, and are not included here. Several companies have expressed a great deal of interest in the technology represented by the above portfolio, and licensing negotiations are currently underway."
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Personal observations:
The DOE's goal in all this stuff (and who knows above them), was to solve component issues with a
sea-level prototype airship. Could S-1 just have stayed in the hangar during this work? Maybe.
These are two huge hang-ups (fuel cell and propulsion) that have thwarted all comers to date, when it comes to persistent platforms (would think gas management also) at or near the stratosphere. DOE work, words, and patent apps. says they've got it licked....wow.
Assuming that Sanswire would/could share in the outcome of this work (patents) am wondering at this point if this could help them secure a partner who otherwise would not have access to such technology.
Personally, just wished we would have been clearly informed, way back when, of the full nature of this partnering agreement.
Anyway, this is my take on these events. Hope this helps.
pete
ps. Wrote to Rob for a response on the above info. Nothing in the past two months, but know that he is busy guy.....
And, the last paragraph on page 53 is interesting - especially the last sentence beginning "Up to now . . ." For some reason, viewers cannot access the next page of the document, which evidently would have discussed some long-term experience gained on an airship through tests conducted by Dr. Kroplin. Very intriguing.
"Furthermore, the environmental compatability is an issue. Endurances reached with balloons are from several months up to a year. Certainly the solar UV radiation in the critical wavelengths exceeds ground values by an order of magnitude, even though the low temperature will possibly reduce the decomposition process. Also the gas permeability of films will be reduced by low temperatures. Up to now, no long-term experience has been gained on airship . . .."
The notice for readers on page 54 is as follows:
"You have either reached a page that is unavailable for viewing or reached your viewing limit for this book."
Since page 55, etc. are available for viewing, pg. 54 has been made unavailable. I wonder why? Hmmmm . . . .
Wow, thanks, imawswami. There are other videos out there of additional skyworm sightings, for which links have previously been provided on this message board.
The following link regarding Dr. Kroplin's Airworm is a very informative, but page 54 is coming up blank for me. Were you able to access that page previously or has it been removed? TIA
You wrote:
"Getting back to the issue of multiple versions. This info came from a book, Shell Structures: Theory and Applications
By Wojciech Pietraszkiewicz, Czeslaw Szymczak.
It represents a collection of papers on common subject.
Fortunately for us all, a portion of the work can be sampled, and [what are the odds]......that portion goes into great detail on Kroplin's Airworm.
http://books.google.com/books?id=k9ifqUt5CvIC&pg=PA52&lpg=PA52&dq=airworm+airship&source=web&ots=O6MCSCwUE8&sig=OIEYm24hP0h-eXX5l9Kv3RusjmE#PPA55,M1
There is so much here (pg. 52-55) that will resist the urge to summarize. Simply, every investor should review this material and come to a very simply conclusion
[if they have not already, of course]: That there is a tremendous amount of fruitful effort going on behind the scenes which, at some point, is to be revealed."
Now, this is odd. I've been watching LII on Quote Media, as well as Alphatrade, and I don't recall seeing the 11 cent trade for 23,000 shares posted on Quote Media earlier. As I recall all of the trades at that time were for 10 1/2 cents.
Price Size Exch Time
0.105 13000 OTO 13:20:50
0.105 2700 OTO 13:15:19
0.105 5300 OTO 13:15:13
0.11 23000 OTO 13:15:02
0.105 5000 OTO 13:11:29
0.105 10000 OTO 13:11:29
At this price, it's easy to manipulate the shares, Rhaps. Sell some, bring down the pps, and then start covering . . .
Looks like someone is covering at 10 1/2 cents. EOM
Run, both companies are bringing technological assets to the table, among other things, but I'm not going to go over it with you. It has been discussed ad nauseum on this board, and, from what I can see, you have been involved in the discussion, so it should all be familiar to you.
Do some of you understand how new technology is developed? They didn't ship S2 to Germany for the fun of it, IMO. What about all of the data gained, etc., from the development of the S2? That is proprietary information and the knowledge gained from all of that testing and development went over to TAO in Germany. A few months later - voila, a new airship. It didn't come out of thin air, folks.
Imawswami, are you around? I'd like your input on the news of this new stratospheric airship. I recall your posts about the successful tests reported by Sanswire's partner, Proton Energy Group (? correct name), tests conducted for or funded by some government entity, and which apparently included some sort of HAA platform, and how valuable the rights to that knowledge would be for anyone attempting to build certain types of airship platforms. Anyone have those posts? TIA