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Sorry, you not uppity. Lol. Darned auto text.
Then what's the point? How does anything that you or I do change what has happened. Or what will happen? The entire point of owning shares is to eventually sell them for a profit. I am offering you a profit more than what uppity have now and what you claim it will ever be worth.
Exactly what mirror are you braking when you sell your shares?
Thank you and exactly!
Well?
Why would I do that? Just like any other sale of any other item. As is!
I will be happy to buy those "garbage certificates" given to you during the "fake stock free giveaway" any tine you are ready. Don't wait to long tho, I might change my mind.
All kidding aside, do you want to sell them?
The preferreds.
Once again JS if you want to sell your shares let me know.
Here is an article about preferreds. It is not about ANDI, but similar conclusions could be made. It also is not a positive article.
http://m.seekingalpha.com/article/1580002
Oh ok. Lol. I do at that sometimes. Thanks.
Sure. Look at the back...it has a place to transfer it. People transfer shares all the time to their heirs. Long before there was an electronic system there was a paper cert system.
Plus who said anything about selling it down the road myself. I might use them like Thatguy is going to.
Their mine at that point and that's the bottom line.
Walkmans market!
Just like any other asset one has that wants to sell. All that is required is a seller and a buyer.
That's the market. He sells. I buy.
To much for me but I am glad to see they still have value.
What do you want for them?
On the CC they stated a Jan 2014 time frame. What was that for?
What changed?
What is this post related to?
But your link says that with a pink there is not a way to know if they have applied.
Thanks. These look like some useful links.
But one of your links says that for pinks there its no way of knowing except by PR. ANDI has already had a PR announcing a split. They just have not announced the ratio.
How do you know when they have applied for the reverse?
I don't believe that is correct SK. Proportionally on a split the share to dollar ratio remains the same... On a reverse sure enough there will be less shares but each will be worth more by the same proportion.
I'm sorry what's ANDI inflection point? I don't have the software but my thinking here is that when the share price flattens out that it by nature is a possible inflection point. .
When it is right on the bottom then there is no more down tend possible. So except for the reverse that we know about and they don't care about, the second indicator is a narrowing of the volume of shares being traded.
I don't totally agree that a inflection point means a significant company change. But I believe that we cause that, with our buying pattern. Right now the longs here know that the significant change is the reverse, so we have more or less stopped buying and selling.
Yes I agree they are looking for a quick pop. But they, the market makers can actual cause the quick pop. They do this by using a software tool and education how to interpret it and unknowingly band together. Sometimes knowingly, which is where it becomes somewhat fraudulent as they are quite ruthless.
Obviously I really am not really telling you nothing that you don't know yourself. So I appolgise for that. Obviously lots of books and I by no means understand it all. As an engineer myself I do understand inflection points and how easy it would be to write into a software program such that it alerted the user when it is nearing.
I truly believe that these pink sheet newcomers that show up when a stock pattern reversal happens is these guys. I just don't pay them any attention as they don't really care. If the quick pop or drop does not happen ( relatively quickly) they move on.
You tube it. I think I would need a lot more free cash to do this because I tend to hold verses sell the darn thing at the first good run up.
As I said I am not very smart on this issue having never done it. I just am very confident that is the phenomena that we all see when a bunch of newcomers show up pumping the price right at the inflection point. Perhaps you already know this, but there is a "market maker" tool and a series of classes that teach how to do this. Obviously just like the longs, not all of them are posting, but that is the phenomena that is happening. IMO.
A move from .0002 to .0001 or visa versa is a 100% move.. This is where these guys function the best. Admittedly I am not very smart on this. But that is what is going on. Once again these guys are so ruthless to manipulate the price that they bet against themselves. It is fraudulent at best but apparently legal. You can tell which guys they are here on the pink sheets when the charts reach an inflection point and the people that appear on the message boards are all relatively new. The posters that were the regulars had already backed off a little and the board more or less is quiet. This board inactivity tends to match the buying volume and creates an inflection point. Oddly enough they seem to be related. It is you that can believe what you want I suppose. IMO. But to even give these guys the time of day is a wasted effort..IMO.
To the longs here. Once again these are the shorts and day traders that you are seeing.. The "market makers". As soon as the inflection points change they will move on. They do not care about any one particular company. Pay them no attention.
IMO
These are the shorts and day traders. These market makers are so ruthless that they will bet against themselves to falsely manipulate the price.
Could be time will tell.
No BT. You did not say it right. Lol. Speculation and its "ridiculous". "Bro."
It is true that not every post states where this conversation came from. You yourself did not although you were part of the conversation yesterday. It was understood. Yes a new person might have problems jumping in. That its always true.
Hey I was agreeing with you. I think it is reasonable to draw comparisons.
Why do they need that information. Cliff said that identity theft "hits the nail on the head". What do you think?
This is the kind of information we all need. Before we send in information.
But the discussion is why do we need to give our ss#. Some declare that it is identity theft. But for now other than drawing a reasonable speculative conclusion it was for another company. Is that off topic?
I don't understand is the discussion about identity theft on topic out not?
So back to the original discussion? Based on not all the facts being presented by educated investor, is it your belief, that the motive of the trust is identity theft? My belief is no.
Sounds good. I wish people would read all the posts before jumping in. But it is still speculation. So PL what's it going to be? Bro.
Look at your post 67445. I agree. From now on of anyone decides to start a conversation on this board using another company as their parallel I am going to tell them to quit right away.
Who said that? All I said was the need to have the ss# was to pay dividends. Dividends kind of suggests money I guess, but no one spoke actual dollars. Once again read from the beginning. The concern was that they wanted the ss# for identity theft.