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I dunno, Lickily; my CHD1000 is still chugging along smoothly after two years. Still runs 8-10 hours per charge on the original battery. Still displays and plays back tracks in the same order as the original CD, too.
Last I heard, Gateway was a customer of Intel.
Uhhhh, you left out 'dreaded'.
More print coverage for DMP-X20:
http://www.pctoday.com/proeditorial/article.asp?article=articles%2F2004%2Ft0202%2F24dt02%2F24dt02%2E...
Austin, having the battery bonded to or even forming part of the case does not preclude it being replaceable. If GW says it's replaceable, I'll take their word for it.
That sux; hopefully the problem will be addressed via a firmware revision. Until then, it's a deal-breaker IMO.
Sorry, but I don't keep up the DD list any more. I stopped maintaining it when this board first became popular, since at that time the board was mostly on-topic and uncluttered which made it a good source of info. Regrettably, that condition no longer exists.
Re playback order, I find it odd that the default playback order is alphabetically. My experience with MOS-based players is that the default order has always been the order in which the tracks were downloaded i.e. creation date/time. (Within albums, that is; overall default for display of artist or album titles is alphabetical.) I wonder if the problem arose when the playlist feature was added or if it may be due to the PC-resident software used to load the player. Has anyone watched during the download process to see what order the tracks are being transferred in, alphabetic or otherwise?
Mini iPods, major iLife update focus of upcoming Expo keynote
December 23, 2003 - With rumors rampant, Think Secret can confirm that Apple CEO Steve Jobs will focus on the release of new low-end, 'mini iPods' and a major update to its iLife digital ensemble at his Macworld Expo keynote address on January 6 in San Francisco, Calif.
Reliable sources inside and outside of Apple have confirmed Apple will announce the new pocket-size iPods in a number of capacities and in various colors, including stripes. Capacities will be 2 and 4GB -- meaning users could store some 400 and 800 songs, respectively. Prices will start at around $100US, Think Secret has learned. It is not known if the new product line will be available immediately after introduction.
It is also expected that current iPod models will be revamped to add body colors as well.
The addition of mini iPods is not unexpected what with recent comments by Jobs that such a device has been an Apple priority and MP3 industry watchers confirming the market is wide open for Apple to take a lead in technology and offer a better, faster, cheaper, low-end MP3 player.
The announcement of the new mini iPods will be the catalyst for a keynote that will concentrate primarily on music. Numerous sources have confirmed the keynote will be some two-plus hours in length and will be "music centric," as one source put it...
http://www.thinksecret.com/news/mwsf04apple.html
Not a frequent WMP user, so I can't offer any insight into its peculiarities. However, a Creative Nomad user's experience may offer a clue, even if Creative's software isn't WMP:
"If you go to the Music Library and then to the Albums list (or to the Artist list, and the Albums view, or any other way that eventually shows the name of the albums), and then either do the Play Now or Add to Play on the album, it should add the tracks to the Now Playing list in their correct order. If you just add the songs to the list by artist or genre or whatever other than album, it will add them in alphabetic order."
I tried pulling up some albums off a CD full of MP3s using WMP 8 and the tracks came up in the correct order (even the ones without the appended 01_, etc). Don't have a WMP-compatible player, so I have no idea if the tracks would transfer in the order they are listed.
There is a simple method for downloading songs to EDIG players while retaining the correct track order. If you use MusicMatch to download, you can click on the Track No. header in the Music Library to sort the album tracks in ascending order. Then highlight all the sorted selections, right click on them, and choose the Add to Playlist option. When the songs are downloaded to the player from the MusicMatch Playlist, they will be stored in the correct order. If you download via MXP software, you can still use the MusicMatch Supertagging feature to automatically append an 01_, 02_ etc at the front of the tracks' file names to insure that they download to the player in the right order.
"EDIG does not use web casts as a way to announce new deals." Remember, you heard it here first: #msg-1958625
ummmmm... isn't 'webcasts' one word?
Yadda, yadda, yadda - SSDD. (No, I'm not referring to the webcast!)
Link to CC added to PRs and News at website:
http://www.corporate-ir.net/ireye/ir_site.zhtml?ticker=EDIG.OB&script=1020&item_id=ew,824822...
Digital music players range widely in size, shape, price
Mike Himowitz
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Originally published December 18, 2003
AFEW DAYS AGO, a colleague asked me what kind of digital music player he should buy for his teen-age son. And I realized there wasn't a simple answer, because these popular gadgets come in a bewildering variety of sizes, shapes and prices.
Collectively, they're known as MP3 players, because that's still the most popular format for digital music files that have been compressed from standard audio CD tracks and stored on a computer.
Typically, MP3 players connect to a PC through the computer's USB port, allowing users to download music files to the portable devices. Most often, listeners use headphones, although it's easy to hook a portable music player up to a home audio system, too.
To find the "right" player, consider how you or your favorite music fan wants to use it. For listening to a few tunes while you pound the Stairmaster, jog around the neighborhood or climb Mount Rainier, a small, light player with no moving parts is the ticket. But you'll have to settle for relatively low capacity - two to eight hours of music.
If you're doing less-strenuous activities and don't mind more bulk and weight, you can put a music collection on a hard disk-based model and play it while in the office, in a dorm room or on a blanket under a tree. And many choices are in between.
The real gotcha in buying these devices involves the format of the songs they'll play. All handle MP3 files, but not all can handle music stored in Microsoft's Windows Media Audio (WMA) or RealAudio format. For maximum flexibility, find one that can handle the largest number of formats.
Album tracks downloaded from legitimate online music stores such as Apple's iTunes, Napster, and MusicMatch, are particularly tricky because of copy protection and format issues. For example, the only portable player that Apple iTunes supports is (surprise) the Apple iPod. Other services use copy-protected WMA files that can stump most players.
You can get around these problems by exporting purchased music to an audio CD and re-importing the tracks as unprotected MP3 files. Just realize that the process involves extra time, a little expense, and a slight loss of quality.
That said, here's a look the types of players you'll find and their strengths and weaknesses.
Hard disk players
The stylish Apple iPod is the best known of these high-capacity players, but there are several other models, including the Creative Nomad Zen, Rio Karma, Dell DJ, Gateway DMP-X20 and Archos Gmini.
Weighing 5 to 8 ounces, they store music on compact hard drives with capacities ranging from 10 to 40 megabytes. That's enough for 3,000 to 8,000 of your favorite tunes. Some double as portable hard drives, allowing you to move files of all kinds from one computer to another.
They're a bit heavy for a shirt pocket, and their hard drives don't lend themselves to jogging, but you can take a hard-disk player for a walk, to the office or upstairs to hook it to your home stereo. Their capacity does comes at a price: Expect to pay $250 to $500, depending on the size of the hard drive.
Mini-hard disk players
New for 2003, these in-between, compact players use micro-drives that can store up to 1.5 megabytes of music, enough for at least 500 average album tracks in MP3 format. That's nowhere near the capacity of larger hard-drive models, but enough to keep you amused for 20 to 25 hours without a repeat.
About 2.5 inches square, these gadgets are no bigger than many standard players that uses flash memory, and at 3 ounces or so, they won't weigh down a pocket. The hard drives are designed for mobile use, but the jury's out on whether they will stand up to jogging or other strenuous activity.
All of these devices - including the Rio Nitrus, Creative MuVo 1.5, RCA Lyra RD2760 and iRiver iGP-100 - use the same basic 1-inch Cornice drive, so you won't find competition for capacity. Starting at $200 or so, mini-hard drive models are considerably better bargains than flash-based players in terms of capacity, although none of the first-generation models offers an FM tuner or voice recording.
But if a few ounces and a few inches aren't that important, you'll get a lot more music storage for the buck from larger hard-disk models.
Flash memory players
These were the first of portable music players, and for joggers and others who value weight and portability over capacity, they're still the best bet.
Storing music in flash memory, these devices have no moving parts, so there's no skipping and nothing to break. Short of throwing one against a wall, they're almost indestructible.
Some are no bigger than a mini-cigarette lighter, although small size has its disadvantages, too - the tiniest have display screens so cramped that it's hard to find the tunes you want.
The main drawback to these players is capacity, largely because of the cost of flash memory. At a megabyte per minute of MP3 music, it goes quickly. For less than $100, a low-end, 64-megabyte model will play about an hour's worth of music, while $300 will buy a player that stores 512 megabytes, enough for about six hours of tunes.
You'll pay more for features such as an FM tuner or voice recording capability, but they can be worth the money by turning the player into a dual- or triple-duty device. Consider a model that accepts additional memory modules, usually in Compact Flash or SD cards. That way you can increase the player's capacity at a reasonable cost.
CD/MP3 players
These dual-purpose devices look like regular portable CD players, and that's what they are when you slip in a standard audio disk. But they also can play MP3 and other digital music files recorded on data CDs.
The difference? An audio CD can store 74 minutes of recorded music, while a data-formatted CD with music recorded in MP3 or other computer-based formats can store at least 10 times that much. So a handful of CDs with MP3 files can store a good chunk of any music collection.
In addition to their flexibility, CD/MP3 players are dirt cheap - $50 to $120. More money buys additional features, such as an FM tuner, a bigger LCD to display menus, songs and playlists, and better protection against skipping caused by jostling.
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Interesting post at Agora:
http://www.agoracom.com/nonmemforum/msgreview.asp?id=300563&refid=0&orig=300563
'8 figures' sounds a little paltry - why would we limit ourselves to OEMs that are less than $100,000,000 in sales, revenues or market cap (whichever is applicable)? With regard to the latter category, even poor lil' EDIG is an '8 figure' company, quite possibly breaking into 9 figures soon.
FWIW, Wistron was formerly Acer Inc.'s design, manufacturing, and services operation.
I doubt that the HSN promotion will have any direct effect on our PPS near-term. Ask me again in mid-February.
I checked with HSN. They offer 3 MP3 players; one from GPX and two from Gateway, the 128MB flash model and our jukebox.
She may not be, but I'd wager some of her co-stars are.
Orygun, that blurb came from HP's May, 2003 online/print magazine.
Is there an echo in here? Wassa matta? Trying a new tack after yer platform paranoia fizzled? And what's so ethical about a Smith & Wesson?
Cass, APS' idea for the Digeplayer was hardly original. I suggested a similar design to EDIG over three years ago. Only conceptual difference was that my proposal was for a video player that could be expanded to contain tech manuals, drawings and blueprints, as well as video and audio presentations, procedures, etc. I even suggested that they target airlines, as well as other industries. Just because you think EDIG and its shareholders are dim doesn't make it so. Rather, it exposes the narrowness of your perspective.
Unless the respective contracts prohibit it, the company would be negligent if they didn't seek other licensees.
Cass, please provide a source for your claim that "manufacturing cost would be deducted from AV royalties". Has that appeared somewhere as a public statement from the company?
Water under the bridge - the HD1213 is now in full production.
FWIW, the maximum allowable non-operating temperature for a Hitachi Travelstar 2.5" hard drive is only 149 degrees F. That would not be acceptable for automotive applications and might be the source of the problem.
Chisel, per the latest stats, Gateway has $1.1 billion in cash and no debt; I suspect that the problem isn't on their end.
Whom do you suspect of effecting this alleged ruse?
Sorry, dearie, but VoiceNav™ is an e.Digital property. "e.Digital’s VoiceNav™ voice navigation interface was developed utilizing a voice recognition engine from Bell Labs' Advanced Technologies, a division of Lucent's research and development arm, which pioneered speech recognition technology." That claim is corroborated by Lucent - http://www.lucent.com/press/1101/011105.bla.html . So if you want the VoiceNav™ voice navigation interface, you will have to go to EDIG, not LU as you falsely claim.
Word Mark VOICENAV
Goods and Services IC 009. US 021 023 026 036 038. G & S: portable and automobile based listening and recording devices, namely, MP3 type players, digital audio players and digital audio recorders. FIRST USE: 20011000. FIRST USE IN COMMERCE: 20011102
Mark Drawing Code (1) TYPED DRAWING
Serial Number 76288067
Filing Date July 19, 2001
Current Filing Basis 1A
Original Filing Basis 1B
Published for Opposition August 6, 2002
Registration Number 2642304
Registration Date October 29, 2002
Owner (REGISTRANT) e.Digital Corporation CORPORATION DELAWARE 13114 Evening Creek Drive South San Diego CALIFORNIA 92128
Attorney of Record MARNIE WRIGHT BARNHORST
Type of Mark TRADEMARK
Register PRINCIPAL
Live/Dead Indicator LIVE
Oh, yeah... the 9/17 1.8" OEM stuff was not just a Shareholder Alert: http://www.embeddedstar.com/press/content/2003/9/embedded10458.html .
Let's not be too hasty there, Cass. The 10 Q statement clearly says that we "entered into a royalty bearing licensing agreement with a multi-billion dollar Asian OEM for the manufacture of the Company's Odyssey 1000(TM) platform for OEM branding." There is only one way to read that, to wit 'royalties will be paid by the OEM if they manufacture a branded version of the Odyssey 1000 platform.' If the OEM licensed the Odyssey 1000 platform, they had to license the MOS as well, since that is the only OS the platform uses. "Supporting the technology, software, firmware and upgrades" is a plus, since Gateway could have farmed that work out elsewhere (with suitable NDAs to protect the proprietary MOS stuff, of course).
Not all agreements in effect at the time of a 10 K filing need be listed. Per the SEC: Item 1. Business. Furnish the information required by Item 101 of Regulation S-K (§ 229.101 of this chapter) except that the discussion of the development of the registrant's business need only include developments since the beginning of the fiscal year for which this report is filed.".
In other words, if no material developments regarding a particular agreement or relationship occurred during the period covered by the report, then no mention of the agreement or relationship is required, even if it is ongoing. If B&O were to procure additional inventory of Beosound 2s for the Xmas season, it would have to show up in the next 10Q and in the 10K for FY 2004. If they don't, it won't.
I don't see anything in the latest 10Q re B&O (nor in the previous one for that matter). However, here's what the license agreement for the 9/15/03 release of the Beosound 2 firmware says:
BANG & OLUFSEN TERMS OF USE
Use of Bang & Olufsen BeoSound 2 requires that you accept the terms of this End User License Agreement. Continuing to download the software constitutes an implicit acceptance of the terms of the Agreement. Neither purchase of BeoSound 2 nor acceptance of the terms of the Agreement permit you to use any Name, Logo or Trademark used or registered by Bang & Olufsen. Reverse engineering, decompilation, disassembling of the software or any of its content is prohibited. Rental, leasing, networking, resale, or redistribution of the software is also prohibited. Bang & Olufsen are not liable for any loss or damage including, but not limited to, direct damage, direct loss, loss of profits, consequential loss, personal injury and injury to personal property which may result from downloading the software, using the software, inability to use the software or defects in the software.
Bang & Olufsen strongly advise you not to download illegal music. Bang & Olufsen are under no circumstances liable for any content stored using the software, nor do Bang & Olufsen provide you with any license or permission to use any Name or any Intellectual Property Right, including any rights, patents or Trademarks.
The software contains portions based upon Microsoft Media Technologies. Copyright © 2000 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Microsoft, Windows Media and the Windows Logo are registred trademarks of Microsoft Corporation in the United States and/or other countries.
MicroOS Operating System (U.S. Patent # 5,787,445)
Unless we sold our MOS patent to B&O, I suspect that they are still paying us royalties.
( Anyone wanting to verify this can get the download at http://www.bang-olufsen.com/sw1840.asp )
Can you help me out here? Where did you get the 'less than $25,000' figure from? Milplease had solid, verifiable data to back his post; where's your supporting data? And can you show us some data that says the Beosound 2 is no longer available? B&O says it is very much alive: http://www.bang-olufsen.com/sw694.asp . The most recent firmware update was 9/15/03, so it's obvious to me that it is still in production and being kept up to date.