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So what happens to MTVX if 2 years goes by and they keep distributing shares/equity at the current rate? Answer: Nothing! Even if they disribute all 20,000,000,000 shares in that span the cost to purchase those shares back would be $2,000,000, No? So if in the next 2 years MTVX turns products into profits it is plausable that all of the "equity" (not debt ((thats for you LOCKs because some here do not know the difference)) would cost MTVX $2,000,000. They increase the AS to 40,000,000,000? Ok now its $4,000,000 to buy the nut back. If MTVX keeps quiet they play their own hand in keeping PPS down for as long as possible to pay pennies on the dollar to restructure their share structure. If MTVX sells products, they will dig themselves out of this hole no matter how much "equity" they give away. 10,000 Motopeds units at the lowest price ($2,000) is $20,000,000 a year alone. For people to think the share structure and dilution is the "death" of this company, they just arent allowing time and for MTVX to show what it can do. Am I disappointed in the failures to this point? Sure. Does it condemn MTVX to never make it? Not even a little. If the company makes millions in revenue, there is no reason to RS when it costs to $2,000,000 to buy the equity back. My one post for the day. GO MTVX!!!!!!! Rose colored glasses? Sure, I am invested here why not?
More importantly we need MTVX to address the share structure. Investors need transparency in what the plan is for these billions of shares outstanding. I think everyone knows the products are solid and will have a large place in the targeted markets (eventually). Investors invest in two things, products and the company. Right now, the products are solid the company is super shady. Just is, sorry longs. Which one will win out? No idea. Shares are purchased, no going back now. Either a write off or make some coin. I have no idea. Go MTVX!!!!!
Locks, you crack me up!!! Fight the fight brother! You are relentless. Love your posts.
Now you tell me!!!! Where were you $23,000 ago??? Have a good one. Go MTVX!!!!! Fortunately my chickens have hatched a few more eggs....
100% Correct FUBAR. 100%. I do not need an update myself. But for MTVX to not toot its own horn over the success of the Motopeds line seems counter productive? Call it fluff if you will. It will not do anything to improve the PPS. But if you promise updates and do not deliver, that looks bad. MTVX, I would think, would want to help the momentum of Motopeds? I am not quite sure why the silence, unless they wany to keep the PPS low ( to buy back?) or the news and outlook still isnt good? I have nothing but time. March can not come soon enough. GO MTVX!!!!!!!
Im no warehouse worker but........the heaviest Motopeds bike is under 140 lbs with motor. Now, I don't know my forklift wheel sizes off the top of my head (as some claim here) but I'm thinking that if the forklift can carry the 200 plus pound man it might be able to lift 140 lbs with its forks? But yea, good eye good eye. keep them "facts" coming..... from an unbiased "moderator". Go MTVX!!!!!! Happy holidays to all of the Monster Nogo employees on our board.........
Honestly my friend its 140 lbs!!!!! Per bike. Im not sure you could find an operational forklift that couldn't lift 140 lbs........... Pallet jacks lift that at least...... nice try though. MTVX is selling Motopeds. Can we stop now? No question, No doubt. All over the world MTVX is selling Motopeds. Forklift, train, boat size, warehouse size........ MTVX is selling Motopeds. Enough already
It will be an update on units shipped to date and orders received. That MTVX has been well received throughout the trade shows they have attended. That MTVX continues to improve the balance sheets. All of this will have zero change in PPS. Which is fine by me, I have nothing but time. The PPS will change with fin's showing large increased revenue's. I don't even think a PR stating IR is done will help. Those shares are out of the barn so to speak. A share buyback would move PPS, but I personally think MTVX should keep cash for production instead. "Build it and they will come". Obviously the Motopeds line is building a large market niche here for years to come. Go MTVX!!!!!!
Have you heard back from James yet? Thanks for all of your updates. Go MTVX!!!!!
Happy holidays to all of the Monster Moto employees that post on the MTVX site. Looking forward to a revenue producing 2015 and beyond. Go MTVX!!!!!
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" What a load presumptuous prevarications "
Earn??!!?? Lol they won't even sell $5 million for 2014...
You do see the hypocrisy in this? No? MTVX on their own time and schedule. Go MTVX!!!!!!!
I assume MTVX is withholding PR's and updates to keep the PPS low so that they can continue to buy back shares at .0001. As FUBArs quote from MTVX states, they will not do anything that will give an advantage to competitors. Obviously, buying back shares at these prices as long as MTVX can is beneficial to the company bottom line and not to competitors. As many here can speculate to the negative. I can continue to speculate to the positive. Go MTVX!!!!!! To Stallion, your only out $50,000 if you sold. I doubt anyone would invest that much and sell down here. Keepin it real.
Whats next? MTVX keeps selling their products. Continues to post millions in revenue quarterly.
The PPS goes up. Simple. If people need to sell today, that is awful for them. If investors can hold their investment the formula above will play out. Nobody on this board has info on mergers, RS or anything else that may or may not happen with MTVX. I know MTVX has outstanding products and technology to sell. GO MTVX!!!!!
James James James........... c'mon man spill the beans.........Merger? With who? Just initials. I promise no one here will tell. Either way long MTVX here!!! GLTY Go MTVX!!!!!!
What happened to James and his update from KC??? Anybody hear more on this? Go MTVX!!
Because Pete, like the rest of us, believes MTVX will eventually have revenues in the millions to maybe billion range from the products and technology they possess. You have said yourself that revenues will over come the current issues. Its not a blind eye. It is vision to see past the current problems. This is a .0001 stock. Risk? Yes. Reward? Well obviously we all think so. That's why we are here AND STILL BUYING. GO MTVX!!!!!!
Everyone knows when a product gets publicity to ban it, it only becomes that much more popular!!!!! Particularly in this market segment!!! Love the free press whether it is or isn't a Motoped!!!! Keep it coming. And there isn't a competitor to Motipeds!!! Just wanna be's!!! Go MTVX!!!!!!!
No way! MTVX is a scam, sham, fraud........ they don't really sell anything. They don't even exist........ Thank you for all of your DD!!! Amazing things happening with MTVX!!!! Show me another company trading at .0001 that made $1,500,000 in revenue the last 3 months. Go ahead I'll wait GO MTVX!!!!!!
Improved revenue and decreased interest expense will continue for MTVX. Just a matter of time. Feb 15? Feb 20? Who cares? MTVX should do everything at every turn to improve their position. If that means a 5 day delay, who cares? If your long..... GO MTVX!!!!
I guess when I think about the Motoped agreement a couple of things come to mind. 1. Why would the creators of Motopeds agree to sell this obviously widley popular invention to a company if they felt MTVX wouldnt be able to sell the product? 2. The purchase agreement was clearly unit sales incentivised for the inventors. As in, the inventors could have asked for a larger cash some upfront, IF they doubted MTVX could actually sell their product. But, they didn't. They tied their proceeds into the future sells that they were confident MTVX would do. If the inventors are confident with MTVX selling the products they have invested their time, money and energy into then I am pretty confident as well. They could have sold their technology to a great many companies, they chose MTVX!!!!!!! GO MTVX!!!!!!!!!!
So if 10% of the current "likes" on the Motopeds Facebook page purchased a bike between now and the end of 2015 that would be 21,000 units sold or $41,000,000 in revenue from its least expensive $2000 bike. Do you think $41,000,000 in revenue from only 1 line of what MTVX sells would still warrant a RS? I believe 21,000 is a low estimate between now and the end of 2015. I guess what I am asking is in your mind is there any revenue number MTVX can hit that would avoid what you say is an inevitable RS? GLTY. Go MTVX. My one post.
The $$$$ have to go to inventory. If they can't manufacture the products and get them there sooner then 120 days the fan base will disappear and it will be over. The improved balance sheets will eventually move the PPS. I'm with FUBAR on this, it will take 6 months. Go MTVX!!
"Truth. Only way for them to recover at this point is a R/S and we all know that is inevitable."
Truth. MTVX is already RECOVERING, as in its already improved its revenues for 3rd quarter 2014 by 75% over the first 2 quarters combined. MTVX has significantly reduced its outgoing interest expense by over $60,000 a month as the most recent 10Q shows. RS? Only way? Inevitable? Ummmm.......keep increasing your revenue and decreasing your outgoing MTVX, I think you just might be on to something with this whole business thing. Keep spinning the fear, I keep buying shares. No worries at all from this long term investor. GO MTVX!!!!!!
Frankly, I do not need to "tell" MTVX how to run the company. Im a shareholder not the CEO, CFO, President, Vice President. If people want to interview for one of those jobs, contact the company. See, how they can effectively "change" all of these perceived "mistakes" like decreased interest expenses, improved revenues and the sale of non revenue producing property that netted MTVX $1,700,000. An idea to be the "cog" in the company I am invested in sounds super brilliant!!!! Let me see, how can I go about doing the most damage to a company I am heavily invested in............... h.mmmmmmmmm.........WOW...... GO MTVX!!!!!!!! My post for the day
Giving away shares to payoff debt and cutting a check monthly for interest expense are two totally different things. But, you know this. When I sit down and look at my outgoing bills (interest expense) I total them up, write the checks and that money leaves my account. The account is funded by my revenues. When that outgoing goes down significantly (like it has) that means I cut checks for $8000 a month instead of $68,000. Thus leaving more cash on hand for production. Share exchange for debt is WAY different of course. For 1, like the IR deal, shares were given to payoff $2,700,000 in debt. These shares COULD now be purchased back by MTVX for around $200,000. Interest expense obviously doesn't work that way. You owe $68,000 in interest this month, that's what you pay. Period. No break. No nothing. Now, I have no idea like everyone on this board what MTVX management will actually do. But the above scenario, if played out like I have said makes them geniuses. $2,700,000 relieved for now $200,000. Pretty smart. So, I hope this explains to you the huge difference between monthly interest expense and share distribution. They are NOT the same. MTVX has greatly reduced their interest expense moving forward. GLTY. I enjoy reading your posts. I'm not sure if you were jerking our chain here not knowing this difference. But either way GLTY.
At this price point don't you think there might be a few "negatives" or uncertainty? Again we aren't talking about Apple here. This is a .0001 stock. There are going to be some issues, but that's precisely why it is .0001. Are the products still the same as when you first invested? Yes, with the addition of Motoped since you first got in. Toxic financing the problem? Can be cured with a $300,000 or 3 billion share buy back. Let me get this straight, retire $2,700,000 in debt from IR for shares that you can now buy back at $200,000. I guess I am just not ready to designate failure until I see managements final strategy from where they currently are. PPS is not my determining factor for results in a 6 month young company. Increased revenues and decreased outgoing is. 2015 into 2016 will tell the tale of all these decisions. Until then everyone on this board is flat guessing. Even me. Since I am already invested, I will choose to support MTVX!!!!! GLTY! Thanks for your input, I enjoy reading your posts.
So the much touted fear tactic of the dreaded NO BID has happened.......... guess what.......... All of my shares are still in my account and MTVX is still moving in the right direction with improved balance sheets and revenues !!!!!!! Scratch that fear tactic off the list. Thank goodness. Glad to move past this and into 2015 with a stronger MTVX!!!!!!!! If investors choose to ignore the great things MTVX is doing here, so be it! To all of my longs out there, 216,794 LIKES for Motopeds on Facebook. If only 10% of those LIKEs purchased a Motoped that would be 21,600 units or $43,000,000 in revenue on there lowest priced $2000 Motoped!!!!!!! Questions?????? GO MTVX!!!!!!!!!!! I love IHUB
I only get 1 post photo, So my response is this. I own millions of shares. I can do nothing about the past. I invested in MTVX because of their outstanding products. They are now in a position to market and distribute said products. I see nothing but great things for MTVX in 2015 and beyond. The PPS will take care of itself. If ya'll feel different, sell at a loss and move on..... GO MTVX!!!!!!!!!
Ummmmm MTVX already addressed this in their 3rd quarter 10Q. (frosr)
Operating Expenses
Operating expenses have decreased significantly during the nine months ended September 30, 2014 compared to September 30, 2013, due primarily to the reduction in General and Administrative expenses and continued management of operating costs. Professional fees increased due to the legal, accounting and consulting fees we incurred in going public and acquisition of Motoped brand assets, opening audit expenses, and legal expenses associated with the sale of real estate assets.
See? MTVX acquired the Motoped brand assets. Right here ^^^^^^^ Questions? Its done. Filed. Kaput. Finished.
Im always surprised how investors complain that fins are late blah blah blah and then they don't even bother to read them. Its right there. Black and white. Filed. Can we move into 2015 now?
MTVX increased its revenue in 2014 3rd quarter by 75% over the first and second quarters COMBINED!!! $1,500,000 up from $500,000 in the first and second quarters!!!! Not to shabby for a PINK stock who's only been trading since April of this year. I would expect an even larger increase in revenue in this 4th quarter possibly doubling the 3rd quarter revenue for over $5,000,000 for the year. I ask you to find another stock trading at .0001 with $5,000,000 in revenues......... go ahead I'll wait......... As with any production, the more products MTVX sells the cheaper the cost of production becomes. Once again, to all of the investors who choose to ignore these numbers and hang on to 2011 and 2012 numbers....... so be it!!!!! Im not here to argue the past, as past mistakes have already been paid for in the PPS. MTVX is moving forward into 2015. Big Revenues, Huge decrease in INTEREST EXPENSE from 2014 fins!!!! GO MTVX!!!!!!! My one post for the day.
Oh I almost forgot the $1,700,000 in profits from the asset sell, so lets take that $5,000,000 and add another $1,700,000 to it. $6,700,000 in revenue for 2014 that sounds nice to me. Oh and don't forget the hundreds of MILLIONS of shares that were returned to MTVX from monster moto........ Almost as many shares returned as they gave IR to relieve $2,700,000 million in debt. So can I say that the monster moto share return is equal to that $2,700,000? Ok Ill say it! $2,700,000 settlement plus the $20,000 cash. No question who one that suit eh???? See we can ALL spin it!!!!!!
I would say MTVX reducing their Interest Expense by $170,000 in the 3rd quarter 2014 compared to 3rd quarter 2013 is a HUGE turn around that has already occurred. That is roughly $54,000 LESS a month going towards interest payments. Their 3rd quarter 10Q states they are now at around $8000 per month in interest expense moving forward. In the first 3 quarters of 2013 they were over $600,000 in interest expense. Growing pains for sure. As a MTVX investor I am glad that is all behind us. Company growth and improvement is what I am looking for. I certainly see this with MTVX. The PPS will follow. I have nothing but time. Go MTVX!!!!!!!!
MTVX current 10Q shows a reduction in Interest expense to the tune of $24,429 down from $194,646 from 2013 3rd quarter. That is an outgoing monthly reduction of $54,000. Or almost 3 times what their new lease will cost. If investors do not see the improvement and implication of what a monthly reduction like this means. So be it. MTVX is slowly turning their balance sheets around. Increased revenue in the 4th and 1st quarter in 2015 should allow this stock to breath. A SMM is the next step in right direction for MTVX. Go MTVX!!!!!
I am sitting back and watching steadily improved balance sheets as debt gets paid down and MTVX products take a larger bite out of the market place. I want steady growth from MTVX. I do not need a boom. I've averaged down my now $23,000 investment here. Satisfied with the products to say the least. To get caught up in the day to day transaction after the money has been spent is a total waste of time, and takes away from your positive energy as Zen has stated. Go MTVX!!!!!!
If delaying filing helps MTVX save $.01, as a shareholder I am all for it!!!!! If delaying filing puts MTVX in a more positive situation to sell more products I am all for it!!!!!! I do not need to have my impatient needs entertained at the expense of the company. Im already invested and buying more. Whatever it takes for MTVX to be successful, delaying filings, withholding information (as long as they are legally compliant) I am all for it. It is a dog eat dog business world. Play your cards close to the vest. Capitalize on silence. MTVX has great products. Thats why we are ALL on this board. GO MTVX!!!!!! My one post for the day
Agree with all that you said. I have nothing but time. Way to much upside potential to get caught up in the noise. MTVX is on the rise. My one post GO MTVX!!!
Spot on as always Big A. The best way for MTVX to instill investor confidence is to release all of the information from the Cerner deal in the 10Q. Not only showing the details but also showing how the transaction has improved its bottom line. Even if MTVX sells at 0 profit, they still retire the mortgage/loan and all of the "supposed tax liens" associated with the property. This will greatly reduce MTVX outgoing thus leaving more funds for production. So worst case scenario they break even and improve their bottom line or best case they sell for profits and greatly improve their bottom line. A fluff PR for investors to flip into is not needed for the patient long term investor here. 10Q at close or on Monday is just fine with me. Got nothing but time. Go MTVX!!!!!!!
Disclosure: we hold no position in MTVX either long or short and we have not been compensated for this article.
Latest Insights APT Moto Vox Group Inc (OTCMKTS:MTVX)
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BY JAMES ELLIOT ON NOVEMBER 7, 2014MICRO CAP INSIDER, MICRO CAPS
APT Moto Vox Group Inc (OTCMKTS:MTVX) has seen a recent explosion of price and trading volume after the stock saw a recent low $0.0001. The reversal comes after months of downward drift since the Company changed their name from Frozen Food Gift Group Inc to APT Moto Vox Group Inc back in July.
MTVX entered into a Share Exchange Agreement with APT Group, Inc. on March 21, 2014 pursuant to which the shareholders of APT exchanged up to one hundred percent (100%) of the total issued and outstanding shares of APT for Company shares, resulting in APT being a wholly-owned subsidiary or controlled subsidiary of the Company, and the Company being controlled by the existing shareholders of APT.
APT Moto Vox Group Inc (OTCMKTS:MTVX) is the holding company for the MotoVox® and MotoPed motorsport product lines, SmartCarb® patented fuel system, and the Sonic Flow small engine technology lines.
The Company has developed an oil-less two stroke engine and a new technology carburetor that has been certified by California air resource board as the cleanest carburetor they ever tested. This carburetor also has improved performance 7~12% and fuel economy 10~15% The other major significance is the APT carburetor can meet EPA emissions without an expensive catalyzer.
The MotoPed design (soon available in Beach Cruiser, Downhill, and Black Ops Survival bike models) is a radical new mash-up fusing the unique combination of a downhill mountain bike, a motocross motorcycle, and a moped. The MotoPed utilizes a patented jackshaft pedal drive system and various lightweight low-displacement engine packages in order to yield a 115 pound “Frankenbike” of sorts that gets up to 160 miles per gallon as a commuter, while letting its riders slam a back-country trail on the way home.
APT holds 26 patents, and trademarks within the US and overseas, focused on fuel systems and design patents for our products, including patents for our SmartCarbs® fuel delivery system and our zero oil consumption, ultra-low emissions 2-stroke engine design (Sonic Flow Induction). We also hold various design and utility patents and trademarks on the MotoVox® line.
On October 27 MTVX announced they had a very successful debut last week at the AIM Expo in Orlando, Florida. The AIM Expo is one of the largest power-sport trade shows in North America, attracting quality retailers and suppliers from around the globe.
APT Motovox Group possesses over 500 individual, international distributor and dealer requests in addition to the nearly 400 at AIM. That is a significant number of dealers to process and qualify. APT expects this list to be paired down through the qualification process. The Company will be attending two additional dealer shows in the next 90 days that will increase this list even further.
The Company has also been working diligently towards the completion of a previously announced asset sale. The transaction should be completed this week. The Company will share complete details after closing and funding.
Conclusion: MTVX has seen an explosion in price and volume after the stock hit a recent low of $0.0001. The move comes as the Company launches its MotoPed bike and announces it has received a Record Number of Dealer and Distributor Order Requests for the bike.
While the Company does have exciting development and continue to produce some revenues their expenses are much higher and they suffer from little cash and mounting short term debt. This has caused significant convertible debt to be issued which has resulted in massive dilution with over 6 billion shares issued and outstanding.
Currently trading at a $1.3 million market valuation MTVX is an exciting Company just coming to market quickly gaining the type of loyal shareholder base that can push these subs skyward. MTVX deserves to be on investors watch lists here and might just provide a spectacular trade opportunity in the coming weeks and months ahead.
Disclosure: we hold no position in MTVX either long or short and we have not been compensated for this article.
I am assuming at this point MTVX will just wait to release the details of the Cerner deal with their 3rd quarter fins that are due by Nov 15. You are correct that this will not move until we get solid improved numbers and a SMM. GO MTVX!!!!!!
Assuming??? Cerner presented a site map for their ground breaking in a week or so. The site map clearly shows Cerner overlaying the current MTVX property. But you already knew that. I am not sure why the negative slant here? If you own, support the company. Cerner land sale proceeds information will be released when it funds. If Cerner announced ground breaking in a week, the deal is done. But you already knew that to. Go MTVX!!!!!!!!
"That wasn't meant to be a negative slant"
Really? Why post it? I mean why not just wait for the news like the rest of us longs? Turn that frown upside down big guy. Greener pasture ahead for this company thats why you and all of us are still here.
I like wise will point out the flaw in this logic and use basic business principals to explain
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A share buyback of 4B shares at 0.0001 costs $400,000 as you have pointed out. Shares repurchased and returned to treasury must be stated as Contra Equity which effectively reduces a firm's equity.
Business plans in every company include spending "equity" in whatever form that initially reduces equity. Not unlike paying for advertising that eventually leads to more sales thus more equity. In MTVX case, the equity gained would be investor confidence and PPS increase. I guess the easiest way to state this is you need to spend money to make money.
Obviously, us LONGS believe there will be more then $46,000 equity in MTVX in the very near future through product sells and asset sales. Thus a plan like this works and makes sense if you are in this camp. But yes I agree, if you continue to base all of the future planning for MTVX off of $46,000 in equity then why bother staying on this board and post? Obviously if all MTVX is and will ever be is $46,000 in equity then its a wrap. Obviously no one on this board believes that, not even the bashers. So posting about past numbers here and basing "flaws" off of them seems very short sighted to me. I assume we all invested in this startup based on potential? Not the past? GO MTVX!!!! I do appreciate your response. I guess we agree to disagree. Good luck to you and your shares.......
With all do respect, I think you couldn't be more wrong. If MTVX purchased shares at market price it would cost them exactly what the market price is which is .0001. So if MTVX purchased say 4 billion shares out of the open market and retired them it would do two things. 1. Raise the PPS. 2 Cost them .0001 x 4 billion shares = $400,000. Even if it eventually cost them $1,000,000 as market PPS was rising due to shares being purchased they would have retired millions in debt for a fraction of the cost. Further more PR's announcing repurchase would bring investor confidence back and continue to raise the PPS to their stated goal of .01. All for around $1,000,000. Legacy shareholder's and IR "scare tactics" would be off the table at that point. Thank you for your reply, I respectfully disagree. Go MTVX!!!!!!
Not seeing the vision is one thing. Purposely trying to obscure the facts is another. 2015 will be an outstanding year for MTVX. Go MTVX!!!!
With all do respect, I think you couldn't be more wrong. If MTVX purchased shares at market price it would cost them exactly what the market price is which is .0001. So if MTVX purchased say 4 billion shares out of the open market and retired them it would do two things. 1. Raise the PPS. 2 Cost them .0001 x 4 billion shares = $400,000. Even if it eventually cost them $1,000,000 as market PPS was rising due to shares being purchased they would have retired millions in debt for a fraction of the cost. Further more PR's announcing repurchase would bring investor confidence back and continue to raise the PPS to their states goal of .01. All for around $1,000,000. Legacy shareholder's and IR "scare tactics" would be off the table at that point. Thank you for your reply, I respectfully disagree. Go MTVX!!!!!!
So you seem really smart. So I ask you, how is retiring tens of millions in debt by giving away shares that the company could then buy back at a fraction of the cost malicious to investors? I am in no way asking you IF they will buy back or not because there isn't a single person on this site that knows that either way. In the IR deal they retired around $2,700,000 and gave away 1.3 billion shares to date. The current cost of those shares at .0001 is $130,000. I do not see how you would think this is a bad deal for MTVX. Shareholders that sell? Sure I get it because they lose their money. But people who hold their shares have lost nothing, but maybe some time? Am I missing something? You say you support MTVX, but deny that they could very well have this in the works? I would say coming up with $130,000 is far less then a miracle that you claim needs to happen. Thank you in advance for any reply. We all enjoy your input here. GO MTVX!!!!!