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Humbly agree, FG, it is possible that the short term effect of the IFTP [insert your guess of whatever it is they're doing] will be some short covering as well as some shareholder selling. Dat's da markit, and da markit moves, and will move 'cause folks will read what they were served, each and every one of them -- differently.
Long term? Who knows? Common shareholders cannot make an intelligent decision as to what the heck the "new" company will be, really, at present.
Now, can this be traded? Sure, anything can be traded. But, (if I were trading OTCBB in the first place, not) it makes more sense to me to trade stock of companies whose corporate structure (as it relates to the common share) is defined.
I understand your tolerance of risk is a lot higher than mine, so this post is in no way meant to lecture you regarding your choice to play this stock one way or the other. I'm just humbly sharing my humble thoughts.
Cheers,
Svejk
"Deciphering Infotopia's Latest Press Release"
http://www.otcbbnn.com/news601.htm
Humbly report, Joemoney, re your "i don't think anyone is allowed to short OTC stocks. so there is NO short position."
Not necessarily. Shorting OTCBB stocks is a common practice, regardless of what the rules stipulate.
Special Report: Dirty Tricks in US OTC Bulletin Board Stocks PART ONE - Short Selling":
http://www.taylorstock.com/OTCBB1.html
PART TWO:
http://www.taylorstock.com/OTCBB2.html
And have you seen this? Some excellent points raised:
"Deciphering Infotopia's Latest Press Release":
http://www.otcbbnn.com/news601.htm
Cheers,
Svejk
!!!---Off Topic---!!!
Humble thanks, HuBob.
Just to make sure all's well that stays well, from now on I'll refrain* from OT posts here, and will follow the "certs" story with FG where he suggested:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=86299
Cheers,
Svejk
* Unless questioning OT posts published here in the future.
Humbly report, FG, then the picture of the value of the playground, which looked like this:
/
started looking like this:
A
on it's way to ending up looking like this, at the end of the story:
A_____________
no matter how many children listened to the first boy, and ran to hide their toys under their beds.
Cheers,
Svejk
Humble question, FG, what's that got to do with SEVU?
Strikes me as off topic, and therefore ripe for removal, as you did with my last off topic post here.
Cheers,
Svejk
Humble question, Brettin, what's that got to do with SEVU?
Strikes me as an off topic post, and therefore ripe for removal from this thread, as FG has done with my last off topic post here.
Cheers,
Svejk
Humbly report, HuBob, not bad!
So, sleep well? Good, here is breakfast. Sorry, I know you'd like to chew on something special, but all I've got for you, again, is just spam spam spam and more spam.
Bon apetit!
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/profile.asp?User=6198
Cheers,
Svejk
Humbly report, FG, since you have been unable to understand my answer, let me tell you a bed time story instead, maybe that will help you get it.
A boy said, "Look kids says here to take all your toys, wrap them up, and put them under the bed so nobody, especially the big bad wolf can get them! That'll show 'em!!!"
Another boy said, "Bogus. That's a Poopville trick to get you little kids to go home and just sit on your toys, while this guy and the other big kids take over the playground, and make your playtime worthless."
Then the first boy changed the subject, "I'll bet you this toy in my hand is gonna be very popular today. I bet ya, I bet ya!"
So the other kid said, "Yeah, who cares about today, won't last. You know that, but you're still telling all the other kids to take their toys home and tuck them under the bed instead of playing with them while the playing is good. Be honest, you weasel!"
So then the first kid taped the second kid's mouth, saying, "Hey, can't say that in this sand box, buddy, only I can say whatever I want here, it's my sandbox. Go say it someplace else. Here, I'll throw your stuff someplace far away, myself."
So then the second kid was just about to say, "Woah, you nasty nasty boy, you! Trying to get my stuff as far away from yours as possible, so nobody can make heads or tails out of our argument, huh?"
But he changed his mind, and instead said, "Look, dood, fact remains taking all your toys home to save the playground is stupid, and won't work. You know that, and I know that. Only difference is you're pretending you don't know that."
Cheers,
Svejk
"....honest men are few when it comes to themselves." -- Twain.
OT Humbly see my original assumption was correct, FG.
On the one hand call your certs, on the other don't see a great deal of substance there.
My problems with your postings have been, always, centered around your mouth saying one thing, your hands doing another, behind your back. Absolutely self-serving, even when you know you should do much, much better, given your obvious mastery of the market.
And, I did not take your bet. In fact we clearly see the stock in question the same way. It's the presentation that differs.
Get a soul.
Cheers,
Svejk
Humble request, FG, can we wait more than hours to decide?
Or are all the certs already in the hands of the loyal shareholders?
Don't humbly know what your investing time horizon is, mine tends to be more than minutes. Yes, I do expect the stock to top out around here (days) and reverse course, based mainly on the parabolic chart, and of course the "certs" red flag, a very reliable signal, in my humble opinion. Otherwise I know nothing of the company besides having glanced at its nuthsell, and don't intend to investigate it, own it, and can't short it.
If I'm proven wrong and the stock continues to soar, I'll humbly admit my mistake. No shame in that.
Cheers,
Svejk
P.S. http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=86199
Observation: I did notice that some posts were made recently all over the place by one self important unmentionable character that is a proven babbler and devoid of any innovative idea, or anything remotely productive, ever. Their sole focus is on hostility and attack, likely resulting from their own background, experience, and self obsession. They are boring beyond tears.
In fact they come from one thread on another commercial website that will remain unnamed, unless I name it later, who make it their business to bash others after constantly getting themselves into rather sensitive unenviable situations of all sorts that none of the rest of us hope we will never have the misfortune to call our own. Why anyone would even bother answering them with satire and taking a position in an attempt to explain anything to that sort of a person is perplexing and really not understandable, so don't ask me why I'm doing it.
Let it go. It is self destructive because people are not interested in boring interplay between individuals via posts that have nothing to contribute to this community. There is no need to talk about any of this here or anywhere else. You will see that whining and whimpering feeds on itself.
All of us have been through this and that forum with intelligent thought-provoking posts, as well as forums with nothing left but soap opera tabloid posting, best left alone. Thanks goodness that never happened on those Fly By Night Associates threads that opened for the exhilaration of seeing humor on the "Hot Subjects" list, as often as possible. Let them discuss their cooking, bashing, inane banter and whatever they do most of the day elsewhere. The fact that they post so much shows they READ every message about themselves, even though claiming not to, and insisting they are researching and trading instead. Every word about themselves, anywhere; unable to see the caricature THEY themselves have IRONICALLY become to their fellow subscribers at IHUB. In fact, folks, it's a compliment to say that they can converse with others at all! Their forum and one of their posters is definitely the CENTRE of their obsession.
I would put up many links from their old SI thread here on IHUB to make my point, but they would be removed because IHUB does not allow blatant criticism of other posters on this forum. However, isn't it obvious by now the success of this forum is important to them only as far as their own person is concerned? Let them digest themselves, not us. Geesh! I could write a pocket-book about this stuff because I love writing extremely verbose and circular nosense, so maybe I will. But I do admit the whole subject is really boring.. boring..boring.. and now back to me!
Humbly report, FG, don't recall a single instance in which "call in yer certs" increased or even helped hold up the share price.
If anything, as far as I can humbly tell, stock of companies that do come out with this kind of PR tends to go south, in a big hurry, and stay there.
But nevermind, you already know all that. Now that I humbly think about it, don't even know why am I telling you.
So excuse the interruption, and please carry on, interesting to watch what your hands are doing behind your back while you talk.
Cheers,
Svejk
Humbly wonder, marcos, you ever wonder what the heck it is with pebbles and their whacky short dillusions? Sure you do. Well, this is one way it all starts:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=85613
Now, please don't bet me wrong, I don't for a nanosecond humbly think FG and the company in question are ignorant in regards to how it all really works.
Each and every company I've ever seen come out with this boohoo short story call the certs in stuff has ended up, eventually, well, you know, taost.
Nice chart. Wish I could short it!
Cheers,
Svejk
Can't humbly wait to see the new name, HuBob:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/profile.asp?User=6148
Yup, spam. All of it. No exceptions. Well, let's look at the bright side, shall we? At least the dood's a pro and ain't goofin' of on the job, right?
Cheers,
Svejk
Humbly report, [insert current name of poster to whom I am replying], in fact your suspicions regarding me are wrong. I do view this as an issue of fairness, equal treatment, and the pros/cons of excercising authority in the absence of due process. I have not voiced my opinion on the matter only because I'm still humbly thinking about it, and am not sure as to what the best solution is.
I've been trying to put myself in your shoes, and in HuBob's, and I can see you both have valid reasons for your actions. Who is right? I don't know. I do know that if I were you, I'd be saying pretty much the same things you are, namely: what the heck, I was here first, whatever my reasons (right/wrong) for chosing my name, it was mine first, give it back, like right now!
On the other hand, your actions could have had serious negative consequences, given how well known SI Luc is. No, I did not get your satire until it became clear you are indeed not SI Luc, and did think you were him -- call me stupid and slow and you will be correct, but do you get my point?
If I were HuBob, I'd have tried to resolve this with you via PM first, in a friendly and constructive manner, before taking any other action. Don't humbly know if he did that.
So, instead of posting my half-baked thoughts based on incomplete information, I was just kicking back and watching -- given this is really none of my business -- except suggesting a new name or two for you. But, I like QFP's suggestion for your new name better, should you chose to accept it.
Your present name will self destruct in five seconds.
Cheers,
Svejk
Off Topic
Humbly ROFLMAO, August, you know me WAY too well!
Still waiting, though. Probably letting it settle really well, before they bring me that lovely pint I ordered.
Cheers,
Svejk
P.S. Let's talk in private from here on, or elsewhere, don't want to clutter this thread with OT stuff.
Humbly like your suggestion better than mine, QFP, given the circumstances.
Cheers,
Svejk
Humbly suggest Democritus or Epicurus, QFP, given the fact that Not_L was here (IH) first.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/articles/07695.html
Cheers,
Svejk
Humbly report, FG, not surprised you missed it, but I have not publicly posted on SI since June 1999. So much for me "thriving" during HuBob's reign there. Now, please don't get me wrong: I did not leave because of HuBob. I've had zero problems with him and the way he does his job -- here and there -- even though I did get suspended by him a number of times on SI, always fairly. (Knew I would be, posted anyway.)
As for "SI Bob is getting trashed on the IHUB trash SEVU board" well, what can I say other than go there and take a look for yourself. If HuBob is getting "trashed" there, then Bre-X was the best stock ever!
Spin all you want, dood, the truth is indeed out there.
Cheers,
Svejk
Humbly report, FG, I'm relatively new here -- arrived after HuBob took the job. I have since read quite a few posts from the past, and must humbly disagree with a number of things you have said, based on personal opinion formed from said reading.
iHub was far from a delight before HuBob arrived. In my humble opinion, it was a pump and dump heaven, a place I'd never be a part of, were it not for the likes of HuBob, who is, up to now, doing an outstanding job of turning this tanker on a dime.
On the other hand, I have read a great number of posts by you all over the net and, um, let me put it as delicately as I can -- if I were a shorter (can't, I trade in a SEP/IRA) -- I'd seriously consider shorting anything about which you post positively. In other words, I don't trust you as far as I can spit with my mouth taped shut!
So, yeah, no wonder to you this place was a "delight" before HuBob arrived. Seems there is now not a chance in the flame-filled-place that anyone -- including you -- will get away with stifling an open conversation, clearly a problem for you. Bummer. Makes my day!
Cheers,
Svejk
Humbly report, stockaholic, didn't see this one on your list:
http://www.jawa.cz/history.asp
Yeah, they'll be around, as long as motorcycles. Communism couldn't do 'em in, so nothing can. (g)
Cheers,
Svejk
P.S. Humbly hope you two don't get into an argument/fight in here, over the past, or whatever. We've heard both sides now, and know were to find out more, if interested (not me). Besides, we're having such a good time in here, would be a shame to waste it. But if you really do wanna/need to get into it, perhaps you could take it to the parking lot? Please? (Just don't knock over my wheels! http://gama.fsv.cvut.cz/~vins/Gib/1foto/1foto4.jpg ):
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/board.asp?board_id=37
Humble thanks in advance, to both!
Humbly agree, marcos, it takes a lot of time to keep up with those stories. And energy, and once involved one's got to keep up with the flow, which is intense and draining. That is why I respect what Jeff has been doing, for so long now, so consistently! Don't read all of it, but it is priceless. If SI ever folds, hope our pal's got a backup of that massive body of work -- would be a catastrophy to lose it all!
Never heard of johndoes.org until you brought it up. Ignorant I guess. Thanks, looks interesting -- bookmarked!
Cheers,
Svejk
Humble thanks again, Mark, but please remember, feeding the wild beasts (my ego) can be dangerous for the feeder and is certainly unhealthy for the animal! (g)
I found that looking at things from the short perspective and digging up information on these companies improved my knowledge and perspective in all areas of stock picking.
Ditto!
I also found that a lot of the people who I thought were most knowledgeable were spending a lot of time there, and I learned a lot from them.
Double ditto!
Some very smart people (Fleckenstein, among others) have been into the miners lately
Not more than two weeks ago I asked Fleck about dirts, and why he doesn't cover them more in his Rap. His answer at that time was something like nothing much to say, yet. Well a few days ago he brought up Franco Nevada, so yeah, he's warming up. (g)
Anyway, I'm not in the shiny yellow stuff because of all the bruhaha about gold being a safe haven in brutal economic times, or whatever, though that is a very small factor in the very far back of my mind. My main reason for being in are the long term charts. I started a thread here:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/board.asp?board_id=565
Check out some of the very long term charts, and you'll find that gold and gold stocks fit into what Kevin and I call the bottom baser pop category. Bottomed in November or so, popped since. Kevin Watson turned me on to an old book by Stan Weinstein, Secrets for Profiting in Bull and Bear Markets As I said, it's an old book, so one finds some very funny stuff in there, by today's standards, but the book has helped me a lot in understanding what happens after a stock/sector has bottomed, and starts moving into stage two of the climb up, which has always been the hardest part of the chart for me to read. If I understand things correctly (definitely not a certainty!) then dirt and dirt stocks are somewhere in the stage two climb. So, many will tell you gold must go up because of xyz fundamental or some such reasons, which I am willing to hear, but bottom line, as far as I'm humbly concerned is -- borrowing from someone that doesn't know what "is" is -- it's the chart, [insult deleted]. (g)
Anyway, that's just my small gambling portfolio we're talking about here. My "real" money is, and has been for a long while, like yours, in Treasuries, where it will stay until I am as certain as I can be that this bear is over.
By the way, seems to me the mighty buck is topping out.
FWIW, I thought you were overreacting when you left SI. You were right and I was wrong.
Thanks!!!
Cheers,
Svejk
Humbly agree, marcos, about mutual funds in general. But as you said, "some of the metals funds are pretty well run, when you look at what they're holding it's a good mix in an extremely undervalued sector."
As I told you earlier, my investing "career" started with dirt stocks (such since discontinued investing vehicles as Bre-X and IPM, or IPMCF in the US). Made money on those, good money, which at this point I put squarely in the beginners luck category! And, of course, that's likely the reason I got so interested in stock scams. I mean nothing is ever going to beat the Bre-X scam, I hope; what a fascinating story that was -- still waiting for the movie version.
And yes, I've read every post on the Gold and Silver Mining Stocks thread. Helped me a lot!
Anyhoo, the funds I did pick are all no load no fee, as long as I hold them over 90 days, which is my plan anyway. No way do I get the bang for the buck I'd get with juniors, but a basket of the eight funds I do have has performed pretty well, so far, knock on wood, without undue volatility. Upper single digit percentage gains in a couple of weeks ain't bad, and I don't have to sit and watch the tape all day. Just check them in the evening, evaluate and note how they did compared to XAU, HUI and GOX, and tweek accordingly. It's my lazy boy approach. (bg)
BTW, do you ever follow the Clown Free Zone on SI? Precious metals come up regularly, and some of the best minds in the investing cyber universe, IMHO, gather there (yeah, nobody can keep up with the non-stop posting there, so I just click on the header and pick out posts by those I respect, such as Heinz).
Cheers,
Svejk
Humble thanks for the recap, WillyWizard, nothing like the condensed version by those that were there at the time.
The CEO's profile was especially helpful!
Cheers,
Svejk
Ah, humble memories, marcos, those were the days. (g)
Reminded me of such gems as FNTT, and their stable of lame horses. Made me look up the last update of the graveyard portfolio:
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/msg.gsp?msgid=8683570
ROFLMAO!!! At the time that was posted, every ticker was active!
And remember this?
http://www.siliconinvestor.com/stocktalk/subject.gsp?subjectid=25391
Doods did some time for those scams, I belive.
Yeah, we had a blast, but that was before everyone got lawsuit happy, and who's got the time and dough to fight some crooks -- on their own, in court? I don't. My hat is off to those who do!
Which reminds me -- there is a serious need for an organization that defends stock scam busters in court.
Cheers,
Svejk
Humble thanks for the undeserved compliment, Mark. Do I know you?
To answer your question, macro tends help me find undervalued sectors. I don't short -- can't, I play the market in a SEP/IRA, so the only shorts open to me are funds, like USPIX, BEARX and such -- so I concentrate on bottom baser situations. There was a guy on SI once, Jim Goodman, whose newsletter Kevin Watson once turned me on to. Excellent stuff, his posts are still on SI, just search for "psycles." All about sector rotations and how to take advantage of the tops (puts) and bottoms. Anyhoo, I've got a ton of Yahoo! portfolios of stocks, broken down by sectors of my chosing, and to help me identify stuff that could be ready to pop, based on the charts. Been doing the bottom baser pop thing with Kevin for months.
Macro trends also help me when dealing in sectors where I don't really want to get into specific stocks much, such as gold stocks. Right now, I humbly believe, the macro indicators I follow are telling me it is a good time to be in miners. So, instead of buying a bunch of mining stocks, a while back I got a bunch of precious metals mutual funds. No huge moves, but easy does it, plenty of time to tweek the mix along the way, hurrying slowly, as Josef Sudek would say.
As time goes by, I enjoy trading less and less, wish to have longer term holds more and more, so I'm leaning more toward the shotgun approach, if you know what I mean.
Hope that makes some sense.
Cheers,
Svejk
Humbly report, JoeLong, no problemo on the complaints, been around the on-line board block a few times, as marcos can tell you. Skin thicker than a rhino's. (g) Started in CompuServe's Investors Forum back in 95, then graduated to SI, been to RB, Yahoo!, MarketSpirit and the Fool, so at this point in time not much surprises me, or shakes me up, really, from having a humble good time with it all, which is my particular personal reason for being here -- aside from my continued education regarding people's motivations, wants, needs, desires, you know, all that fascinating stuff that makes us tick. That's also probably why April Fools gags and such have a warm spot in my heart.
There was a time when exposing fraud was what drove me, probably because I really needed to get my DD skills sharpened. Don't have the need anymore. Yeah, once in a while I'll ask a pointy question on a board of a stock that stinks, in my humble opinion, or point out the red flags, if nobody else does, but most times these days I'm interested in macro market trends, and how to profit from them, so arguing about particular stocks seems a waste of time to me.
In any case, thanks for your thoughts.
Cheers,
Svejk
Humbly agree, marcos, he definitely is. Have had the pleasure of corresponding with him almost daily for a long time now, on all sorts of subjects, from art, music, market, you name it, and also the pleasure of meeting in person a number of times. Have not met anyone on-line I appreciate more.
Oh, and he's 100% dependable.
Find it interesting that the person whom I consider to be one of the funniest people on the net has gone unnoticed by the general public and press. Of course he likes it like that -- no interviews -- no need, it's all "out there."
Oh, and on the director thang. "Made" a couple of directors on the FBNA thread, so now I know that once you have one, you can remove/add in the "Board Manager" window. Just unfolded one of them chairs with your name on the cloth back, on the dirt thread.
Cheers,
Svejk
Humble thanks, Joemoney, for your attempts to answer some of what I've asked.
Will get Janice's side of the story, and then check in once in a while to see how things play out.
Cheers,
Svejk
Humbly agree, QThink, that the best solution may be for CoB's to mark posts for Bob's review/removal.
Cheers,
Svejk
Humble question, Joemoney, do I understand you correctly -- the CEO told you the company will be porofitable this year?
Has that information been published by the company, anyplace?
Oh, and by the way, we have a semantics problem, it seems. Read my post again:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=79468
What you call "bashing" is known, by the general public, as "asking questions."
Sorry to humbly inform you of this, dude, but I fully intend to keep asking questions anytime and anyplace I want -- regardless of what you call it!
Cheers,
Svejk
Humble thanks, Joemoney, for your response.
Humble questions, if I may?
Yes, I saw the revenue news. Believe it or not, I know how to click on news links and read items over at Yahoo! But, no word anyplace, as far as I can tell, about when the company will turn a profit. As far as I humbly know, revenues and profitability are not the same thing, now are they? So, any idea when the company will have a positive P/E?
Question number two and three, as marcos pointed out, what's your take on this:
http://investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=77450
And what's the answer to this:
http://investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=78174
And also very interested in answers to this:
http://www.investorshub.com/beta/read_msg.asp?message_id=79809
Humble thanks in advance!
Oh, and please do me a favor, and refrain from lecturing to me, calling me a you-know-what head, my posts BS, and so on, will, ya? 'Tis annoying, as I'm sure you can understand! As hard as it may be for some to understand, we're all equals here in cyberspace, and you are not more equal than anyone else. Makes sense? Cool!
Humble thanks in advance for all of the above!
Cheers,
Svejk
Humbly just found out about this stock -- noticed Joemoney whom I've met on IH admin (Bob)'s thread is in charge here, so I humbly thought I'd take a look.
Anyone concerned about dilution here? A LOT of shares out there, more printed on a regular basis, it seems, from reading the filings at http://www.freeedgar.com .
Also, if I am reading the last 10QSB correctly (Filing Date: 2/20/2001) the company's net loss has doubled in the last year, to $221,989. When is the company expected to be profitable?
Not humbly interested in investing here, at all, but curious.
Humble thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Svejk
Humble question, Joemoney, just found out about this stock -- looked up your profile after our meeting on IH admin (Bob)'s thread, and wonder, when is the company expected to submit the late filing?
Humbly went over to http://www.freeedgar.com to take a peek at the last 10-Q/A (Filing Date: 12/21/2000) and noticed the company was then losing a substantial ammount of money. Cummulative net loss was $18,641,983 if I read the form correctly.
So, when is the company expected to turn a profit?
Not humbly interested in buying this stock, but curious to learn more.
Humble thanks in advance!
Cheers,
Svejk