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By George ... milkman ... I think you nailed it. That minty green kool-aid did have a healthy dose of that omega-3. And I also believe
that tasty kool-aid also contained a robust dose of that "heart healthy COQ10"
They should have made more of it so we all could have gotten healthy
Well, it doesn't look like anyone is buying into JB's new dog and pony show. He has burned too many bridges and his secrecy and manipulation isn't going to fly.
He might have to move back into CJ Condon's garage. Really going to be hot in there, so I hope he saved enough money for a window A/C unit. :)
Gee ... I would guess that an investment fund that has less than a billion dollars total in it's portfolio is a very small fund. A fund that is playing the penny stocks of any kind is playing a risky game
and leads me to believe they may need a "Hail Mary" to get their performance up to an acceptable level. With BORK all they would need
would be a 1-2 penny increase in share price to make a big score. Then,of course they are going to dump.
With the way JB is sending info to the stock holders, it won't take too many positive "OH, WOW, YOU KNOW WHAT I JUST SAW AT THE BORK RESEARCH FACILITY YESTERDAY?" kind of reports to bump the stock up a penny or 2. So, for them I guess BORK is as good of a risk as any penny stock. But for most of us here ... a 1 or 2 penny gain in the stock price would be as big as a nat on an elephants butt.
Is th Bio Mechanics R & D facility located @ 1375 N. Miller RD.
in Tempe, AZ. now BORK's new research facility OR is JB using it
as a prop to send a false message? Seems as though JB is trying to leave us with that impression. Some here have referred to it as
Bork's facility.
But is it really? Or is it JB's deception and manipulation? There has been no announcement form BORK. Neither have I seen any
evidence to that being fact or fiction
JB is smart enough to know he has no credibility so he is using (or abusing might be a better description) long time posters on this board to carry the false message. He allows them to see a short
snippet of something (like the video of him pulling a wire thru
some machine)knowing they will extrapalate that video into some new KRYRON application that potentially could be marketable. The
poser then brings this speculaton back to he board.
Thus, we are then led to believe this because it was conducted
at a research facility. JB is probably leasing space from this company in an attempt to garner some credibility for his new dog
and pony show.
mikeg2
"If this is some kind of scam to raise share price it's failing miserably."
It is not faiing miserably for JB. As he has probably issued himself stock to cover his $30,000/month salary based on a share price of .005/share. So, he only needs an increase of 2 cents/share to double or triple his paycheck. So, he probably has enough cash to be able to move out of C.J. Condoms garage and get his own place and get the fridge stocked full of his favorite brew. He is continuing to monetize KRYRON for himself and a few insiders with no intention of ever bringing any KRYRON products to market with sales to produce any net profits.
He is using these peek-a-boo tactics to keep some interest in KRYRON
and to make gullible investors, who are thirsty for something to hang their hope on, think there is actually some kind of product
that can be produced and sold which will cause the share price to rise to the point to where they may be able to recover some of their lost investment.
But that's not going to happen because @ a penny a share he only has $5million to work with and when you are issuing stock for services
the vendor you are paying will most likely require a premium when
getting paid in stock that has to be sold in order to be paid
for the services rendered. The vendor also has to take into
condideration the share price could decline before they can sell
the stock. JB could run out of rope pretty soon, so JB needs to get as much as he can while the gettin is good. He just might have
to move back into CJ's garage. (Hope there is a window A/C unit in
the garage ... gets real hot there this time of year). Some might not get the humor about the garage ... LOL :)
It would be nice to know how much this research facility is charging BORK for using their facility for the videos JB is
putting out for our consumption.
Just more of JB's secrecy, manipulation and deception. We are suposed to follow the bouncing balls and form a conclusion that things are ready to pop. However instead of coming out and making a statement of facts ... he allows posters on this board to get a
glimpse of something or drop a name to them so they will come and give JB's misleading or false message to this board in an effort
to garner interest among the 200+ followers here. That way he can say he never mis-led anyone. And some here are just lapping it up.
Like the video of JB pulling a wire thru some kind of machine, which
leads to all kinds of speculation and false conclusions. Why not man
up and straight out tell us what the product is and what the applications are, how it is going to be marketed, ,what the costs are, what the target sales prices will be. That way investors can
do the math and decide if this is investible.
Instead we get this kind of a slight of hand guessing game for the
new dog and pony show.
This is nothing but crap ment to deliver a false message and drum
up interest so the share price will go up and allow JB to dump
some of the newly authorized stock that was issued to JB for his
services rendered to BORK.
SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM ...SCAM ... SCAM ... SCAM
So, mikeg2 ... lets all get together and take turns buying $100
worth of stock each day and we could drive the share price of BORK
up to over $3.00/share in less than a month. And then maybe we could recover some of our lost fortunes.
Yeah, babe, that's the ticket ... who wants to go first?
WOW ... a measley $86.00 worth of stock changesd hands today
and drove the share price up over 30%. Must be time to load up before it gets over priced ... ROFLMAO
Yup ... Looks like JB has
"run out of songs to sing" and is "stuck in Lodi" ... again.
Credit quotes by John Fogerty ... CCR
Mr. milkman ... I am on the limb with you and would add for clarification that the additional Series A Convertible Preferred shares that were authorized have probably already been issued to JB which will allow him to sell a good portion of his common stock holdings and still be able to maintain total control over all things BORK. This will provide JB more ways to monetize KRYRON for his personal benefit. And again without BORK having to sell anything
or generate any revenue
WOW ... mdb1 ... no offense intended, but after watching JB for the last 4 years ao so you should know he never intended to sell anything. That would require what JB is not capable of doing..
Developing and selling a product requires many things of which honesty and integrity are at the top of the long list. JB has neither.
At the top of JB's list is to make money the easiest way he can
and he has been doing that by issuing himself stock for services.
He has also been issuing stock to people who will kick-back a certain percentage of the proceeds of the sale that stock. Just go back and look at some of the financials and check out the almost never ending list of people and entities that were issued stock for services. Then ask yourself who are all these people and what did they do to earn such large amounts of stock.
And by the way did you ever figure out who Jared Metz is and how did he come to hold such a large amount of BORK stock. If you didn't
I'll give you a clue ... He is a Swiss citizen. And FYI ... JB's
scheme with Metz didn't work out the way JB planned.
The big question that now needs to be answered is: How much of the newly authorized 500,000,000 shares of common stock have been issued for services. Since they were authorized over a year ago
(without any notice of course), I'm certain any restrictions have since passed. I would go out on the "milkman's limb" and venture a guess that the bulk of those shares have already been issued for services rendered by JB and a group of insiders.
YUP ... finally came around to my way of thinking. JB and the insiders have been very busy issuing themselves stock for their
questionable services rendered to BORK.
THAT IS EXACTLY HOW THEY ARE MONETIZING KRYRON. THAT IS THE ONLY WAY THEY KNOW HOW TO MONETIZE KRYRON. AND THEY HAVE BEEN VERY GOOD AT IT FOR OVER 3-4 YEARS.
Hey folks your money is already gone. JB thinks it is his money
and the stockholders are stupid. Anyone who disagrees with that and believes we should give JB a chance and that he has turned a new leaf is just enabling JB to continue the fraud and theft.
GET IT ... YOUR MONEY IS GONE AND JB IS NOT WORKING TO GET IT BACK FOR YOU. HE IS CONTINUING TO TAKE IT FROM YOU.
The new research facility is actually CJ Condon's garage where you will find JB sleeping off another hang-over on a cot next to a fridge full of beer.
gotmilk ... you have hit the nail on the head. That's right we need some beans. You know, the musical fruit.
This is all getting way too deep in the weeds.
Just more of "How can I fool them today?"
Deception and Manipulation ... all while they are doing what they are good at which is monetizing BORK for their own benefit and issuing themselves stock for their services.
Then it's pass the bottle and I'll buy another round for the insiders. But wait, I'm a new person and stone cold sober ... you remember I made myself available for a couple of you to observe me when (or before I started hitting the bottle) I was sober knowing full well you would immediately go back and post up the visual of the new clean and sober JB. Yup, the joke is on you stupid stockholders ... should have seen me 2 hours later.
Just hope you guys that saw me sober for a few moments don't feel used and abused ... I just needed you to carry the false message back to the rest of the "hurting (and gullible) in the dark
shareholders" because you are more credible than I am. Hope you all can understand as I needed a little bump in the price of BORK before I dumped some so I could pay my bar tab and buy some groceries.
Now you can all go back to trying to figure out what the hell is going on at BORK, but just remember ... JB clean and sober with positive energy, new research facility, professional research techs to go along with new and improved KRYRON applications.
Got it!!!!
Sounds like we have a couple of "high end" flim flam artists that never stayed at any place long enough to accomplish anything. But they both are proficient at using all the proper buzz-words and phrases to create an appearance that they excell at everything.
After reading all that you would expect a long line of "Fortune 500 Companies" lined up to hire them and wonder why they have decided to "hang their hat" at BORK.
Or are these 2 Hoogervorst's going to lead the "new and improved dog and pony show"
The speculation is: Bork is a company with enthusiastic principals
eager to bring to the market viable products.
Speculation!
Finally ... and what about the Mathew Schizzler who had a hand in brokering this deal. Would there be and chance they would catch up to him. JB should know how to get in touch with him.
Also as a shareholder I'm curious to know how much the new facility and the technical professionals are costing BORK and how BORK is
paying for all this.
I understand BORK is not required to tell us anything, but it would go a long way in building credibility for their reported new found positive energy and direction for BORK. Might even build some new interest from new investors. ... Just maybe.
But then again ... this may be asking way too much.
Just wondering as to who will own the patents ... JB ... or...
BORK?
WOW ... that said a whole lot of nothing ...
Whoa there Mr Milk ... that's really going way, way out on a limb. Makes me think you must be smokin some funny cigarettes or something.
Or you must have had a hell of a weekend.
Would be nice, but I'm not holding my breath. Every announcement
JB has ever made has been very vague and generally mis-leading at
best. But I'm all ears ... can't wait to hear from JB.
mdb1 ... your conclusion is correct. Jb could not enter into an agreement with with any major corporation that had sophisticated
R&D capabilities because KRYRON can easily be reverse-engineered
and duplicated. With BORKS patents not being able to pass the "enablement test" ... they provided basically no protection for BORK. Thus ... JB will not be able to let his baby out of the barn for fearing someone will steal it.
Today BORK is still in that same position ... and that means no sales of any magnitude. Look forward to more demos and maybe a few nickel and dime sales here and there.
Sad to see the video of JB at a shooting range as that speaks volumes as to the direction he wants to take BORK, which is the most difficult and capital intensive as well as being the most beaurocratic and time consuming ... dealing with the government.
If the pending Purchase Order from JBT Electronics was for real and not just a ploy by JB to try and influence the Judge in his
DUI court appearance ... then why in hell doesn't he try to rekindle that deal with the heat sink application. As we were led to believe ... the deal was done and waiting to be signed.
Only thing I know is several people have said they observed JB for a short period being neat, clean sober and full of positive energy
Some have indicated KB is working in a new state of the art facility staffed with numerous technical professionals. As a stockholder I an curious as to how much is being spent on the new facility and the technical professionals. And how is BORK paying for all these expenses. Last I looked at BORK's financials ... they had almost -0- (ZERO) cash, no reliable revenue stream and almost no remaining stock in the company treasury that could be issued for services. So, what gives ... people don't work for free
and commercial property owners do not (except for very unusual situations) allow commercial use of their properties for free.
There was no evidence that BORK had even authorized the issuance of the 500,000,000 additional common shares plus the allotment of preffered stock back in June of last year until recently when "gotmilk "did some digging and posted it on this board.
So, if BORK would not provide notice of the authorization of that stock,
why would BORK provide any notice of any of that newly authorized
stock being issued. That usually comes when they file their quarterly financials ... which it has been a month of Sundays since they have done that. So there is no way of knowing if BORK has issued any of that new stock until they file their financials. And who knows how long that will take. I'd hate to even venture a guess on how long it will be until BORK files their quarterly financials
... but I wouldn't hold my breath ... doubt it will be any time soon.
IMO there is nothing you, B.I., JB or I can attest to or say, that will convince those entrenched in the past to believe/think other wise.
Of course there is a lot you can say or JB can say to convince us "hurting in the dark shareholders" to give BORK another look.
First of which would be to tell us about the new facilities ...
where , how many sq. ft., is it a leasted facility, how much is the lease, who is working there and what are their credentials, what applications of KRYRON are they working on.
What kind of expenses are being incurred by these activities. This is just some of the basic info a stockholder would like to have in order to join in with your newly found optomism. All we currently know is what ever is happening is cloaked in secrecy which is not a confidence builder.
You accessments of BORK and JB from the very beginning have been incorrect not thru any fault of your own but by JB's deception. This began with your observations of your first unannounced visit to BI and your subsequent comments after that visit.
All I know is that several people say that JB is sober and has a new attitude ... so I guess we are suposed to bet the farm on that.
We need a little more butter on the bread before we do that.
Almost a year ago BORK authorized the issuance of an additional
500,000,000 shares of common stock along with another batch of preferred stock without any notice to the shareholders. If these newly printed shares would have been restricted from trading for a year ... that restriction would expire within the next 10 days or so.
If JB had issued himself stock for services he would then be able to trade/sell that stock very soon.
So would it be plausible for JB to want to pump up the share price
by using some posters here on this board to make positive posts about BORK, its new lab facilities, its new team of technical personel along with the new clean and sober JB full of positive energy and purpose.
Hmmm ... sounds like the "New and improved Dog and Pony" show has begun. Had me going for a while ... using long term "reasoned"
posters to carry the message along with a 3rd party dis-interested
video guy.
Since JB has no credibility he has now resorted to using and possibly abusing other peoples credibility. That way you can't
be held accountable for what other people are saying about what exactly is going on.
Chad ... you say he is in the lab. What lab? Or is it a secret?
You mention the team. What team? How many people are on the team?
What kind of credentials do these team members have?
A little transparentcy would go a long way in building some confidence and credibility with the "hurting in the dark"
shareholders.
What applications for KRYRON is the team working to advance?
I am very skeptical after 4 years of being lied to, cheated and treated like dirt. So, please pardon me for not buying into what JB wants all of us to buy into.
From history some of us know that JB can be sharp as a tack one minute and 2 hours later not be able to get up out of a chair and not be able to compose a coherent note to an employee.
So, at this point, I have no idea as to what exactly is going on.
Not wanting to share specific information as to what is happening
leads me to believe there is a degree of deception and maniputation going on.
No offense intended, but the video you shot is useless in determining what BORK is doing except it shows JB continuing
towards the tactical armor application, which at this juncture would be the most difficult and costly industry to attempt to
engage.
Apparently JB has made himself available to a couple of the posters here on this board where he appeared to be sharp, clean and sober.
Should we wonder why he did this? Yes we should!!!
Could JB have staged these appearances knowing these same posters would do exactly what they have done ... and that is to make positive posts relative to his new demeanor and wanting to make a big change in his behavior for the benefit of the stockholders.
He could have made a public statement of some sort but decided to use posters on this board to carry the message he wanted delivered.
If it turns out JB has really not changed his attitude of method of operating will those posters that related positive changes In JB feel used and abused?????
Remember JB is a master of deception and manipulation ... just asking a question here. And hoping for some straight talk and honesty from JB.
WOW ... that was impressive. Just more evidence of how JB has turned a new leaf, is sober, open and honest. Also moving at break-neck to advance KRYRON to a level never seen before.
Think I might just scoop up another batch of BORK stock before it runs up. Right now the stock price is cheap and worth twice the price. Ya'll better get on the "BORK Bullit Train" before it leaves the station or you will never be able to catch it.
gotmilk ... that is a really big "IF". It would be great if that were to happen ... but I'm not holding my breath
gotmilk ... if you think back you will remember all the major players that engaged with BORK were left with a bad taste in their mouths and wasted valuable time and effort and came away with nothing.
Remember the Pratt & Whitney disaster in which one of the posters here on this board went above and beyond to get to at least test KRYRON and then JB left PWron and Pratt & Whitney holding the bag.
Then there was Ultra Armor who actually tested KRYRON Armor and had an interest until they started asking JB some questions about KRYRON
in an effort to determine whether the KRYRON tactical armor could be cut, shaped, welded so they utilize it in their armored vehicles. His answers so stunned the Ultra Armor executives that they walked away and will never again deal with JB. I know this because I had several conversations with Ultra Armor's Mr. Whitmire who was responsible for allowing and monitoring the testing of KRYRON. The message he left me with is that the tactical armor industry is a serious business and all the major players in that industry know about JB and are not about to be hung out to dry by using KRYRON or dealing with JB. In other words there is too much at stake money wise, relationships, high level DOD clearances along with JB's past criminal history to be dealing with a loose cannon. That's not speculation. That is direct first hand info direct from the horses mouth if you will. Mr Whitmire shared some other info about JB that he asked not to be repeated
that verifies the fact that Jb is being closely watched by powerful law enforcement agency that started over an incident that happened +/- 4 years ago.
Regardless of exceptions privided for some other companies ... BORK and JB are toxic in the tactical armor industry and will remain toxic in the future as long as JB is involved.
And JB knows this to be true.
mdb1 the simple answer to your question is no. BORK will never be awarded any major contract especially from the DOD as long as JB is associated with BORK.
Just ask yourself ... If you were a high ranking US Military Officer
with many connections through your 30+ years of service ... and you purchased a large chunk of BORK stock after witnessing first hand a few of JB's demos and then followed BORK through all the plops, blunders and now find you have lost most of your life savings ...
would you allow a proposed contract with BORK to pass to the next level for approval. The answer is absolutely not ... you would bet that this military officer would probablly do everything he could do to make sure BORK never got an opportunity to be awarded any military contracts.
There are probably enough military and political officials that put tons of money into BORK to fill a football stadium. Now that's a lot of angry people who lost a lot of money because of JB. Now do you think for one minute they are going to allow BORK to win a government contract even if it may help them recoup some of their investment ... and that's if they are still holding their stock.
After considering this you still think BORK could win a major with the US Government or any major tactical armor company ... then I don't know what to tell you except the answer is not only NO ...
but hell no ... not in a million years. JB has spoiled the water and is considered TOXIC in the tactical armor industry.
About the only industry that has an entry point for BORK would possibly be the heat sink application. So, if that potential contract with JBT was real and not another JB scam ... it should be relatively easy for JB to renew that deal ... that is if it was not a hoax put forth by JB in an ill fated effort to try to stay out of jail. Personally I believe that "pending" JBT contract was another one of JB's scams juast like the many others we have witnessed over the last 3-4 years.
You can't run away from your past ... it lives forever and you will never our-run it.
So, if it is new and different what is his explanation for the
authorization to issue 500,000,000 new shares of common stock plus an allotment of preferred without notice to the shareholders.
Needs an answer.
Keeping shareholders in the dark is an old habit that needs to be
broken.
JB is to be commender when he makes the stockholders some money.
This is not a social experiment
Alvie ... you might be waiting patiently for quite a while for JB to sober enough to be able to get up and make it to the gate much less get out of the blocks ... LOL
Experience is the greatest teacher, but the tuition is high
History is the greatest teacher.
Looks like BORK is stumbling right out of the blocks. Seems as the "show" is going to be nothing but re-runs of the first frumping failure. BLUB, BLUB ... BLUB
The negativity, rumors and speculation by me and others on this board are justified and have been well earned by BORK and it's management by their actions over the last 3-4 years. They have proven themselves to be secretive, manipulative, deceptive,less than
honest and untrustworthy. As investors we should not give them the benefit of the doubt.
JB and his group of insiders have used BORK stock as their personal piggy bank until it was all used up ... so they go authorize
another 500,000,000 shares to be issued without any notice to shareholders. Now does that give you any reason to believe that
they have changed the way they plan on operating. Everything they say or announce should be taken as a lie until proven to be true.
Every new initiative should be treated as if it is a scam.
The main problem for BORK in taking KRYRON to the market (beside JB being un trustworthy) is the patents don't hold water and need to be strengthened. And the stock price being so low it would consume a massive amount of stock to be issued to cover that expense. JB can not give samples of "his" KRYRON to an interested party for them to test for their applications if this party has
a competent R & D capability because they could quickly and easily
reverse engineer the KRYRON and conclude the patents BORK has does not protect BORK. If (and that's a big "IF") the BORK patents were strong enough and the party decided to steal the technology, BORK would find itself in a position of not having the resources to defendit's patent.
So where do you go from there to monetize KRYRON. You go to misleading PR's along with some strategic pumping and dumping all the while issuing stock for services to those willing to kick back a portion of the proceeds of the sale of that stock.
And that leaves all the hopeful but "hurting in the dark stock holders" right where you are today with all your investment lost.
Bourque Industries will never, never get a contract with any major tactical armor company as long as JB is associated with BORK. That is a quote from a major player in the tactical armor industry. I don't care what new KRYRON is developed. In that industry JB is toxic ... he knows it C. J. Condon knows it and all the major
players in the industry know it.
His only option at this point could possibly be the heat sink
application.
I wonder ... did BORK ever furnish the last vest to the Port of Seattle Police Dept? The one they paid for but did not receive due to some sort of shipping issue.
What is the status of the several law suits against BORK that were filed by several employees that never got paid for their work at BORK?
There was some equipment from the old Drexel location that was sold.
Who got that money?
It'a a re-run. The same old "dog and pony show. Guess good ole JB could not come up with the "New and Improved" dog and pony show. He
hasn't changed a bit. The same scum bag he always was.
Sad that this is all he could come up with to try and pump up the share price before the newly minted 500,000,000 shares come off restriction.
With the all new state of the art facility with real research professionals working to improve KRYRON for new applications ...
This is all he could do. It's the same old Dog and Pony Show.
OMG I was looking forward to something much better that a "re-run"
Totally pathetic. Face it folks ... stick a fork in BORK they are done.
The best part is that some of these people listed as officers of the company ... don't even know they are officers of BORK. All they know is they did some work at BORK in the past and were paid for their services with stock. WOW ... BORK does not ever communicate with it's officers. That has got to give you a lot of confidence in management ... LOL :)
Boy, am I tired of all this meaningless dribble. I'm ready for the show to begin. I've got my popcorn and a cold drink ... been sitting here for way too long as my popcorn is getting stale and all the ice has melted in my drink. At least could we see a little bit of pumping here as a preview ... maybe.