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He stopped in the parking lot to take pictures, in this companies mind that's attending. Where is that 90 day financing??
Well at least one person is thinking here.
Time to call the big guy and buy a load at $.01.
$.06 doesn't look like a bad buy now, it's at $.13. Personally I think this stock is going to crash again.
I think that this week leads us to the lower single digits in share price. I personally thing that the big boys have their fingers on the sell trigger & any sign of buyers out there.
No rah rah or news besides massive income is going to derail this stock from crashing down. We have been running without fundementals for a long time and the market for guessing gets alot narrower based on the current climate.
It blows chunks.
Financing in 90 days??? lol.
These people are not doing a good job at all & good for nothing. Let's hire the rap guy to raise money.
It was ~82 / Sunny here today, light wind. How was it again in TX?
There always a better choice & not knowing about is just a matter of not knowing, remember that.
Nothing good, People we're buying @ $.06 today, which basically means that there could of been a sell below that. I think that I might win that $.05 close tomorrow bet just yet. We might even see $.04 / $.03 in no time.
I hope all of you big shareholders that we're told the good stuff is just around the corner and the best is yet to come have your accountant on speed dial. Your going to have an aweful lot to talk about soon.
The sidelines is a good place to be right now.
He is full of it. There are people dumping huge chunks at one time to the MM and some buys but only after they pick up others people shares cheaper and resell it higher. The MM are obviously in a buy low sell / high pattern and are not stocking a massive amount of this any longer. We are currently at $.065 bid and $.08 ask and if someone wants to buy the MM's grab someone's massive amount of shares that are sitting there in limbo at the low price and sell it.
Bottom line is just what I said would happen, someone with a large holding has lost faith and is going to liquidate their position. If it's one of the real big boys or an old manager is yet to be known but one thing is clear, we are heading toward worthlessness very quickly.
The pumpers here can spin it anyway they want to make it sound better but the company is broke and the stock is near worthless. The head of the company even admits that the company is in limbo until they get financed and at these new lower levels, the company's stock can be bought privately for nearly nothing. It has to be nearly nothing to make it even midly attractive at these levels, sad to say.
The end is near.
Based on the current share price of $.08, we are 26.12 times the industry average versus earnings:
Price/Earnings (TTM)
--
Actual26.12x
Industry Average
Price/Sales (TTM)
177.17x
Actual3.78x
Industry Average
Price/Book (MRQ)
--
Actual6.96x
Industry Average
PEG Ratio (TTM)
--
Actual1.41x
Industry Average
To be in line with industry average we need to be at $.003 a share. So you can see why I am mentioning a potential for sub penny share prices. In bad times, companies find there average good or bad and unfortunately we are on the wrong side.
I am not trying to be critical b/c seeing you turn bearish probably contributed to my not dipping my toe in the water for any length of time over the last 12 mos.
I'm glad that I did you some good NN, goodluck with all your investments.
I may win my bet of $.05 by friday at this pace, you could buy all you wanrted at $.06 earlier today. I personally think that with the amount of shares out there and the general belief that this company is going nowhere, it will hit sub penny within the not too distant future.
The biggest question is where is the company with great news to prop the stock back up??
Huge chunk just sold and this is heading down again, in real time. I wish the best of luck to those who are left at the end of this debacle, you'll need it.
At that time things we're looking up and some compensation was due based on them getting a gain if the price went up.
It is a great motivator for management and staff that benefit from this type of compensation. If the stock cranks they are wealthy, if it crashes they have nothing.
Remember the chart did get better from there.
I called it to the nearly top and now the bottom, credit is due. You have always had a level head but I watched the signs and called it as I seen it.
Is there an echo in here?
Thanks HC for the credit. It isn't like I am happy about this whole situation but complaining about it here is about my only way to vent about how things have gone. I wish the market in general would get it's act together and we would go back to better times in the economy as a whole.
OTCBB stocks that have had almost no income and cannot sustain themselves without outside funding are going to find that disposable income that much harder to acquire thanks to all these problems. People aren't just going to throw thousands at something on someone else's promise that good things are about to happen for the company.
The good times for this company never came and we have a history of broken promises and timelines. We also have a history of the management compensating themselves with options and shares hoping for a better day. The issue I have with it all is they never had anyone there that knew how to make a deal when they had the SP up and momentum behind them to thrust the company to a new level. They are bottom dwellers at best and have shown only incompetence along the way and wasteful spending. We needed this building like a hole in the head and it's going to cost plenty to open the door.
Building a building before you build a market is putting the cart way before the horse. We have almost no income and the stock is nearly worthless yet the building is the most important thing to the management.
Best advice I can give is they need to focus on a real income to sustain the company and avoid giving it away. Their plan in flawed and will just lead to more hickups and hangups down the road for anyone left standing around them. Find some buyers for our "products", make some calls for money. Sales generate revenue which justify one's exisitance at the top of the company and after ~9 years, no one previous belongs there. Find a new guy to find a new way.
It's called alot of promises / timelines with nothing delivered. People cannot believe management that makes promises about full financing several times and then it never comes through. Any deal they have done has generated nearly $0 income and many of them have generated lawsuits against the company. Even the company's own management has lawsuits going and is firing whistleblower type charges against the company. The company has too many outstanding shares and has no real prospect of doing anything until they find a way of securing more money, admitted by the head chief himself. That basically means that the company cannot go forward with any project no matter when it was promised to come around.
If it keeps money out of all the managers hands and breaks them, a BK might be worth it. If you drive through a certain Mickey D's in Houston right now you can order your meal in German, English or Spanish. The old guard found new jobs there I hear and have room for one more their to lead the Mickey D's to the promised land, drive-thru financing in 90 days there.
The food comes out w/ all the antibacterials on it already and it even cures Herpes. So you can pick up your taco next door at Taco bell and love it without fear of a problem. It will also cure lung cancer, save your eyesight, give you immunity to sepsis and file IND's in the next quarter or so. I asked for a side of vaccines but the high school only educated guy on the mic didn't understand what I was saying. He sounded like a whistleblower to me, one that would shoot his own investment in the foot for his own personal short term gain. He also acted like there was no long-term potential in needing to grab at short term money, talk about a sign to read. Anyhow the food was eaten and the taco was a passed option.
This company has become such a joke to everyone I know and we laugh about it all the time, I have written it off long ago.
I already called the 100 to 1 / 99 to 1 reverse split, this is just repointing out the obvious.
A message to all of us left holding the bag here, it's going to be on fire soon w/ alot of crap inside of it. Plan on us getting almost nothing for all the years of loyalty and support for the company. The head guy is looking for VC financing, they will take it all and then some. It will keep his salary rolling and give him something to do until his time is up.
One other small detail, for the company to become viable for 3 years they would need ~$20 Million at current levels and an additional ~$10 Million for trials and clinicals for a total of ~$30 Million. I am probably being very light but I just want to point out a fact that if they sell enough stock to do it, it basically is like selling someone 2/3 of the company at our current cap of $15 Million. If they give them a 50% discount at $.05 it makes them a true majority owner of the company.
This basically liquidates the company and sells it out at the lowest point it has been at in many years. That is our plan for financing our future, huge dilution. It's all these guys have ever known, not income or sales just dilution. So our plan is to drill every person that ever supported the company to pay a bill to exist. I bet the new shares are bought on a preferred level and then the common stock gets a reverse split of 25 to 1 to raise the price up. Then the common stock gets a par value at a later date, just recooking the company.
Either way with this management crew, you could hand them $100 Million and they will find a way to create lawsuits and hire rap star producers to market the products and F-it up. Guys with real brains see people like this coming and roll up their sleeves, it's clobbering time.
P.S. I don't think Angel financing is going to cover the base on how to make it sound better, the part about all the investors getting cooked out of their money is how it's going to play out.
P.S.S. A $.05-$.07 SP is a running friday bet for me and a friend, I took the lower end.
Can we bank on that?? No. The company has been run by a bunch of F-ups and the biggest one won't leave. The stock will have little chance of rising as long as he stays. It's getting worse & the scariest part is the company's bank account is getting lighter daily.
Personally, I feel like the result of the company's failure can directly be attributed to the arrogance of these guys. Everytime I talked to them they just acted like they held the holy grail. Sorry to say it but it's sadly true.
The end is near.
It's called alot of promises / timelines with nothing delivered. People cannot believe management that makes promises about full financing several times and then it never comes through. Any deal they have done has generated nearly $0 income and many of them have generated lawsuits against the company. Even the company's own management has lawsuits going and is firing whistleblower type charges against the company. The company has too many outstanding shares and has no real prospect of doing anything until they find a way of securing more money, admitted by the head chief himself. That basically means that the company cannot go forward with any project no matter when it was promised to come around.
With all of those bad things going on, can you find a good reason that this company is worth more than $.001 a share right now?? There are company's trading for that price with way more upside than this pig and we are no where near the bottom yet.
In my opinion if you hold this stock, I would contact your accountant and find out what you need to do to adjust for the loss of everything you have invested in it. There is nothing here and the current guy in charge is going to leave the office upon his death, not by resigning. When he does go away, all the rights to our proprietary secrets passes to a stranger to the company thanks to a deal these geniuses signed. I would look it up but spending anymore time warning all of you is like hugging a cactus, I keep getting pricked.
You warned us 3 years ago, it went up to the $1.50's in the mean time. I just remembered how when we went through the last management change that the old guard sold off a bunch of shares and killed the share price. I normally will never agree with you but the reverse split is the only logical way of doing business and I can see them protecting their friends in a preferred type status for their shares. Everyone else will be left holding the bag (of crap) and waiting for their loss.
I think a 99 to 1 reverse split is better and then watch it crash back to $.03, then I'm back in. Otherwise I sit here and shake my head as the bid and ask have both just entered the single digits, ($.093 / $.095).
I am not attacking you in any way but just describing actions taken by you and others. It is nothing personal at all and no I am not personal friends with the Board monitor. I respect what they do and the efforts they make and they have deleted things on me if I go overboard.
Single digits might pop up today, it's looking like someone with a massive holding is trying to sell. What a huge suprise after all the positve news we have seen. I personally think that a guy in charge of a company that has fallen over 90% in share value from a recent high has a duty to step down.
Staying on is holding on at best and to think that the guy is supposed to be a genius and have the companies best interest at heart is becoming harder and harder to swallow. A head needs to roll after all of this and their is only one head left from the old guard, let's roll.
P.S. The company is also not pursuing a new leader, which means this bleeding will not stop. A vein is about to burst, single digits.
P.S.S. 99 to 1 reverse split and then it falls back to $.03 and I am back in, otherwise it's sideline at best.
Part of a pumpers game is you attack the poster instead of the logic behind their statements. Try to discredit them and find things that can be questioned.
Nothing to pump here at $.12 and a 92% decrease from our most recent highs. Just keep thanking god we have our guy in charge still and his non-incoming producing formula to help stabilize the company, lol.
You can say what you want about LW / FV but looking at the chart, it's been all downhill since they left. Still, I am glad they are gone and never want them to return, waste of air and space. Keeps your fingers crossed for our senior citizen to retire and go to shady acres. When Kick the can is your favorite game, you know it's time to lay down.
No one's laughing.
CYGX went from $.03 to $1.54, how was I wrong after 4 years?? That's a 5000% return. I called this crash a year early and I switched teams?? There is no team, there is common sense and watching for signs and clues. I read them, told all of you about it and was called a traitor.
The only traitor's here are the one's who wouldn't listen to a intelligent voice of reason they had known for years that told them to sell and we are going to have a problem. You are traitors to yourselves and your investing, not to anything else.
If the guy that loves the stock the most for years tells you it's time to leave, next time you may listen. If the guy in charge now wants to get any retirement money from all that stock he holds, he'll step down and take a backseat to someone new in charge. Otherwise he is going to have a big tax write-off.
I bet all of you wished you heeded this good advice:
Posted by: skoobyfl1
In reply to: Paulness who wrote msg# 45202 Date:2/8/2007 9:55:11 AM
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I have owned this stock for like 8 years now, I know all about being patient. It's being realistic that is the hard part. You'll be able to pick up more shares at a much lower price come later this year. The old guard needs to eat and pay bills and it won't be because of their education or new high paying job.
Posted by: skoobyfl1
In reply to: The Wawh who wrote msg# 45257 Date:2/8/2007 11:17:20 AM
Post #of 56320
I have seen what happens when management leaves with a massive amount of shares. The get spiteful and dump as many as they can to make the remaining management that got rid of them look like they are the incompetent one's. It happened before with this company many years ago and there is a chance it will happen again.
Reality is this company has a major liability in letting a large shareholder go who brought alot of large shareholders into the company. If the other large shareholders get scared or no longer have that reassuring voice, what are they going to think??
I forsee a mass exodus all to soon regardless of this companies potential. When the stock hits the really low numbers, I will buy back with a fury unknown to MM. Until that point I will watch it happen and wait until all is clear. They say those who walk the battlefield during the big bombs get killed, I'll just watch from the sidelines thanks.
Posted by: skoobyfl1
In reply to: Jimmy Joe who wrote msg# 45274 Date:2/8/2007 3:26:46 PM
Post #of 56321
I will no longer dwell on this or say anything at all to you guys. I have known many of you for years on here and have always been nothing but positive. I see a huge wrinkle here for a temporary amount of time but I didn't say the company would crash or go out of business. I have warned you a problem is coming and I know how these things work, been there.
I am not going to bash the technology, not bashing the future chances, not destroying the dreams we have here. I am just warning of potential problems in the near future if and only if current larger shareholders dump their shares. I think they will have to because of financial reasons, no other. If you would like to think differently go ahead and do that. We usually go down in the summer and go up in the winter / fall, that's a normal pattern. The summer is coming and you have scorned a major shareholder, badly. Those 2 factors lead me to believe we may have a problem coming our way and there will be no press release or warning about it.
I will step aside now and watch with great intent and interest on what transpires over the next few months. Look back then and remember what I said before, a storm is coming together.
Posted by: skoobyfl1
In reply to: arnold who wrote msg# 45309 Date:2/9/2007 9:52:11 AM
Post #of 56321
It's funny to see them vote themselves Millions of Shares and say it was a good thing from a company that's selling off shares to exist at the same time.
If you give them a 20% on every dollar they have earned the company up to this point, you can probably buy a used toyota with it. Them giving themselves Millions of dollars worth of shares while the company is borrowing to exist is just plain wrong.
Like I said before, when the house is clean, their Millions of shares are resold at a fractional of current prices and the PPS is where I like, I'll be back. Until then, you can keep this stock under your toilet because that's where it's going to go.
Final result a year later:
http://money.cnn.com/quote/chart/chart.html?symb=CYGX
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Posted by: skoobyfl1
In reply to: None Date:2/26/2007 12:34:45 PM
Post #of 56322
Greenspan:Recession "possible" by years end.
Former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan said Monday it is "possible" the U.S. economy might fall into recession by the end of the year.
He said the U.S. economy has been expanding since 2001 and that there are signs the current economic cycle is coming to an end.
Look at the 1.5 year chart, it played out already.
http://money.cnn.com/quote/chart/chart.html?symb=CYGX
He heard what he shouldn't do and did the exact opposite. Don't sell your stock the best is yet to come and Ryan sold it, punk.
J/K
As usual you we're told not to read this dribble. You we're told that you will gain nothing, should only listen to the company for guidance & you'll be fine. The guy with the spaceship that you had to die to get picked up committed suicide the same way by drinking the kool aid. Drink the CEO Kool aid and you'll commit fiscal suicide.
If anybody tells me not to do something, I get more suspect of them than I do what they told me not to do. What do we have to hide here, it's a open forum.
Fearfrost somehow knew better and felt that he was being manipulated somehow and decided to bolt. Great instincts like that make a great man. Good for you Fearfrost and best of luck to you at school!!
P.S. You won't have to sell after a while, you'll just need to hand your accountant proof of this BK loss and deduct it.
P.S.S. The spaceship did pick them up, it dropped them off right near China and the far east to deliver our Herpes cure to all of them through our Phanuel relationship.
This really sums it up nicely, Cee-it. It seems like the obvious games are becoming more and more apparent to everyone. The share price hit a multi-year low again today, plan on the single digits coming up strong next.
I know some husky fans that have been banking on this baby to hit big numbers for years. They stand back in the toilet from wence they where. It's really a shame that they had to drag all of their friends with them into the sewer except me. I stepped away in a big way and called this just right. I wasn't lucky, I just read all of the signs and got off the highway.
Best advice, try to keep the pipes from freezing again and keep your head up. I told you so will not cut it, the best came and went.
Well I guess one of you is starting to get it, the one that's been closest to getting it for a while now. I predict we can go back and watch the old man repeat himself over and over again and he keeps thinking it's fresh, bright and new.
It's a old man repeating himself and many of you may have not heard it before, I have been here and I have. Plan on watching the statements that continue on until we're broke. The stock can't go much lower so it's pretty much all the way down hill from here.
It's the saddest news I have ever heard the company annouce. It means that we are looking for money circa 1999 with the same person in charge. We have gone literally nowhere, yet many of you cannot understand that yet I guess. We'll wait until our leader is 80 or so and then say, we'll he is still looking for money, the IND is near and financing is 90 days away. The many of you will be like I think I heard that before but it sounds good, Buncha suckers.
People in power do not give up their power.
Sad, sad times:
With regard to our CEO search, this has been put on hold pending additional fund raising and continued stabilization of the Company after the reverberations of the management shake-up that occurred near the end of 2006.
Thank god we have someone in charge that watched the stock price crash 92% and not bring in any real income. We really need him to stay on board to stabilize the company after he crashed it. We better make him master in charge as well and keep him on as the CEO forever and hope he can keep stabilizing the company.
What a absolute joke and for all of you that thinks it's a good idea, you deserve to lose all of your money. Not just some but all of it because you are letting this continue. You invested in something and a senior citizen ran it right into the ground. Keep him in charge and this company is done.
As the share price slides closer to worthless none the less. I am going to stay on and stabilize the company, lol. What part of the company a sliding down graph for a shareprice and having no income is he going to stabilize??
Being stabilized means you have money in the bank for many years, can keep a timeline that means somethings and know when you are staring at a lawsuit or a deal. None of those have ever been accomplished here, so I am looking for the big crash to get back in.
99 to 1 reverse split and then it crashing back to $.03 after and I am back in. Otherwise I keep warning you guys and watching you get pumped by a couple of hasbeens. Keep listening to the best is yet to come and this is so great. We're broke and waiting on money to move forward, welcome back to circa 1999.
The stock has no real reason to go up because the people that have watched it slide are still in charge and have 0 (zero) incentive to give up power. Even if they do hand one of the leadership roles off, the same people will still have control and some type of title (like Master patent filing CEO Chairman).
You people here better start paying attention to the things i am posting or you are going to lose all of your change. Read the statement above I made weeks ago and compare it with the press announcement below. The new stockholder annoucement acts like we are getting a favor by him staying on, when we really are getting closer to BK.
With regard to our CEO
search, this has been put on hold pending additional fund raising and
continued stabilization of the Company after the reverberations of the
management shake-up that occurred near the end of 2006.