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These numbers might not reflect current earnings/salaries. Where did you get these numbers anyway off an old web page?
Is there any way to recoup our losses? Madoff investors are at least getting something back...Can we???
You said that they are shorting at .0001 and covering @ .00007, which they are. They have put up huge walls to keep this thing low and as a result arsc has had to dilute like crazy to keep things going. IMO
I would like to see the evidence to substantiate your claim of fraud, that is a very dangerous allegation and if you are making this claim the burden of proof is on you. Ball is in your court...and please don't tell me dilution or not getting sometime accomplished in a certain amount of time is proof of fraud. Give us something real and this goes for everyone else who is crying fraud prove it or shut up. If you say it and cannot prove it then you can be complained about to the SEC
I would recommend everyone who has a position in ARSC to submit a complaint with the SEC about the MM's who are naked short selling and cellar boxing this stock trying to pummel us into submission and get us to sell off our shares for their gain and our loss. I have sent a complaint about the MM's to the SEC just a minute ago and with multiple complaints my hope is that they will look into the naked S.S of the stock and take action where it is applicable.
Where is everyones patience, nowdays, if our webpage doesn't load in 1/2 a second then we get cranky...These guys are trying to roll out a new technology in a new industry in a crappy economy! They are trying to setup production, once they have the system setup to mass produce and fill orders at will and the economy comes back this thing will zoom. Let this spinoff happen and product start rolling out then you will be happy that you didn't sell your shares at .0001 or .0002 I can easily see this in the multiple pennies within 2 years time or sooner...key word patience!!!
This statement is untrue do better research
If this company is going to be something someday, then the only ones losing money are the ones selling now! If you buy at 1's then when the stock goes up, and I believe it will be up a few thousand percent from where it is now within the next 6 months, then you will make money! If it goes bankrupt, and I believe it wont, that is the only way to lose. Besides alot of shares out there and the MM's playing games there are not many negatives more positives. IMO GL Longs
Can you clearly explain why you have determined December 1st as a date to call this company a scam or not. We all know that nothing is going to dramatically change between now and then. The best we can hope for is that they finalize the Liberty Towers Install, but what are you looking for them to actually do? Sell 10 thousand units...? You keep saying Dec. 1st...Dec. 1st...Dec. 1st.
That is like saying the oregon ducks need to beat Arizona by midnight tonight or they are a scam when we all know that they don't even play untill tomorrow...?
I googled the HydraFuel address in Beaverton, OR and it shows a learning center next door to them in that office park. I called Cindy who works at the learning center and she confirmed that HydraFuel is in fact there and has a sign on the building. So, if anyone doubts if they are at that address then call Cindy she can corfirm!
How do you know they are covering at .00007
Lets put things into the proper prespective... According to the PR ARSC has accepted the offer for the spinoff they were projecting a timeframe of late summer/early fall when they believed it would go through. They didn't promise us a date so calm down jitterbug. Good things come to those who are willing to wait. Good luck and Happy investing!
If this company can be a leader in a brand new green clean renewable energy sector, which is only going to grow each year, why would you want to sell @ .0002 or 3 4 5 6. If people want to sell now and then buy it back when it is trading on the NYSE. IMO
Liberty has over 100 towers and that is just one company in that industry. That is a huge market to sell the hydrastax and I bet they will tap into it as it looks like they have just begun...
wHAT DO YOU MEAN STARTING TO DOUBT YOU AND RAGING ARE THE TWO BIGGEST BASHERS ON THIS BOARD LMAO
How do you know that they are getting the stock at .00001 "4 0's" come on did you just pull that out of thin air like the guy who said they were getting it at .00007. One of you guys has to be wrong and I think you both made that up. Let us know where that number came from please.
Why do you say the shareholders are not going to be included in the spin-off? How do you know that? Please share with the group how you came by this knowledge.
I remember someone wrote that they talked to jim tweed and he said they were trying to get them out toward the end of Oct.
This is the facility in Beaverton, OR it is in a comercial/industrial park
http://maps.google.com/maps?rlz=1T4ACAW_en___US390&q=1800+NW+169th+Place+Suite+C700+Beaverton,+OR+97006&um=1&ie=UTF-8&hq=&hnear=c700,+1800+NW+169th+Pl,+Beaverton,+OR+97006&gl=us&ei=ezqtTO2FI8i3nAfT0JXhDA&sa=X&oi=geocode_result&ct=title&resnum=1&ved=0CBMQ8gEwAA
wasn't talking to you, don't you have something better to do with your day? Why don't you get outside take a walk maybe help some elderly person mow their lawn!!!
What was the name of the stock he shorted 2 days ago?
Don't hate on ARSC just because thet don't move in accordance with the beat of your drum. This is going to be huge try having some patience. Are you a bashing competitor or paid by one get out of here with your nonsence.
Seems like you are bashing ARSC and ...motive... directing investors somewhere else
Worthless post...No facts all asumptions and opinions. It takes time to develop Hydrogen fuel cells and bring them into a mass producible system. Can you do it? If you could how long would it take you to get all the pieces together? They have a back order log and a huge market before them. They just got the funding and started production they are trying to get the FC's out this month. What is this december 1st deadline? Did you pull it out of thin air? If you want opinions people...this stock is at the basement now is the best time to get in. JMO Good Luck
My subdivision was built over 2years ago if you google map it all you see is farm land, google is not reliable in the sense that info is up to date...Just something to consider
I understand your points but we have to understand that ARSC has received 2 tranches of funding for production in the last 6 months and they are in the final stages of the Hydra spin-off funding with the European investor group "Late summer or early fall."
They have already started production and are working on their back order log with sales channels to be opening up soon.
Their product is state of the art and patented...Smart money buys and holds long...IMO
Plus you are a shareholder, that means you own part of this company. If you spent more time working on building up your investment instead of tearing it down, you will probably be in a good position.
Government incentive/rebate for buying fuel cells = $500 per .5kw
which is $5000 off the cost of a 5kw unit...I'm sure that will encourage potential buyers!
It's funny to see you all talking like you actually "know" something. Where do you get your ideas from? Don't say this stock will never do anything - give us a bankruptcy filing etc.- don't say it is going to the moon - give us a link to the contracts they have signed and earnings statements etc. If you want to help people decided about this stock for themselves arm them with information. If you just say something without factual backing then...I say you either don't have a clue and should not say anything anyway or you have some agenda trying to bash or pump. Everyday I look here for some substance but all you guys give is meaningless fluff and opinions. Worthless info! Please lets try less posts and more substance...
Because people have their shares already and are holding them
DMGM Florida Operations
DMGM owns 174 real estate lots in Orlando, FL. Their subsidiary, Residential Investment Properties, will soon start construction of single-family homes on these lots.
I got this off the sticky on the DMGM M.B. This is the project that ARSC was going to provide the Hydrastax units. I am excited about the future of this company. Also looks like through my "digging deeper" that they are in Florida & Nevada. The Montana Acquistion/DMGM is just the begining for ARSC current and future sales this can spread like wild fires. Get on board now... IMO
This is a classic example why the stock doesn't move... I know there are other reasons, so you don't need to list them all in a reply to me! All my point is lets put our shares for sale at .001+
I believe when the spin off happens that you can choose to convert your arsc shares into Hydra shares I think it will be as a dividend so they might give you share for share value or they might do x amount of shares per share. I am sure those details will come out in a pr at that time. IMO
Jim,
When you say that this stock will soar skyward...with all the shares out there how high do you think this stock will go? .0005? .001? or higher?
can someone post a link to L2 Please
My point which you overlooked is that this company has a product that could make this company worth billions someday. Rome wasn't built in a day, walmart started off a little general store. They are moving out of the R&D phase and into production. As the make money and sell product do you think the PPS will stay @ .0001 Honestly? If you have a position in this stock the only reason to bash is to get people scared into selling off their shares for .0001 if you don't have a position then why are you here again...?
There are hundreds of companies around the world that started with a good idea and then came funding/investment and then production, they have revolutionalized the world and are worth billions of dollars today. This company isn't selling t-shirts or oven mits ... try to think outside the box and you will be able to see where this thing is heading. When you you are positive and have faith great things can happen...
ARSC Warehouse...Came across this info doing some DD.
http://www.meigscountyohio.com/econ_development/images/Industrial%20Park%20Flyer.pdf
http://www.equitygroups.com/amex/arsc/messages/132000.html
At .0001 it would only take the company $100,000 to buyback 1 billion shares. with $21 million in back orders plus a huge potential in future orders does anyone really think it would be hard to buy back shares. There are alot of companies in the reseach and development phase of business and they need money to continue on with the goal of bringing product to market. Name one company in R & D mode with positive cash flow...they have to sell stock to do it. Those who buy now and wait will be having the last laugh. IMO
just got 10 mil more @ .0001 yeah go arsc it will be running soon!!!
SPECULATION-That is all I read in here!!! You are a basher, no you are dumb, no you are an insider... Please people lets post things that advance our knowledge of the products and seek to understand more accurately by asking the tough questions to those who know what is fact and what is fiction. I believe some of the people in here may have talked w/ those in charge so then try to contact Bob or Frank for yourselves and find out what is going on. my 2 cents