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I have not focused on NNVC financing with Seaside but what you and couple of other posters have been pointing out may actually have some merit to debate.
As you indicated I wonder why not throw 2-3 million common shares at $2 plus PP and get your 5 million? rather than this toxic long term drain that allows Seaside to keep on selling for next 5-months.
It can also be concluded for next five months there may be NO News coming forth?
asif
Why would Dr S make a passing remark(or hint??) by mentioning June 6th date? can this be considered unethical to drop hints?
Why not just come out and say it LOUD and CLEAR that Dengue data will be presented at that conference and tell all investors instead of posting by one IHUB member for one group of investors.
This is again bait and switch! dangle the carrot for all the investors to expect something and nothing will be released!
Dr S can always claim, I never said Dr Harris was releasing any testing data!
asif
Ovi, I am done with e-mailing Dr S!
No more e-mails, forget wild predictions. I have my core holding and I will not overexpose myself to NNVC or mindless cheerleading.
asif
My Questions would be
Is the facility certified? by FDA or CAP or ISO9000 standards
How many employees work there at THIS time excluding Dr Diwan
Can they share how the quantity of "CIDES" shipped has increased since they became operational/. What is their MAXIMUM capacity to produce CIDES
Does NNVC rent or own the space and what are paying for it?
asif
Doc FG
I really admire your intelligence and your insight to the market movement and analysis.
In fact you have done a great job explaining NNVC to many new investors and novice like me. I enjoy your charts and predictions.
With so much turmoil in the overall market, it is understandable NNVC will drift lower.
My question to you is despite the obvious lack of (positive)news and skepticism(legitimate at times) by few(who's motives are obvious) you have not budged from your position.
I understand you believe in the company and products
I understand you probably know more than many here
BUT......
don'nt you think for a minute that this is not right, QP is over promises are not filled, website from March promise is not done, no results are being released.
Please be fair in your judgement, if this was any other company would you have the same staunch support? regardless what the company promised and did not deliver?
I hope I am asking a reasonable question to debate merits of NNVC investment.
asif
My Posts earlier in the day
There was a question from PAVIM?? how long does it take to get results....here is an example
3)
Professor Harris has very recently completed certain preliminary cell culture studies evaluating nanoviricides against dengue viruses. The Company scientists are currently performing data analysis and expect to announce our findings soon.
(from 10Q today)
flyasif
I noticed this from 10Q........
10. We have recently signed a Master Service Agreement to subcontract evaluation of nanoviricide drug candidates against various diseases including Influenzas and HIV with the Southern Research Institute, Infectious Diseases Division, Frederick, MD (SRI-F), a well known contract research organization that performs preclinical testing. Anti-HIV testing of our HIV drug candidate nanoviricides is being completed at SRI-F and the results are being analyzed.
is this old news???? I may be wrong but I noticed a lot more emphasis on HIVcide??
flyasif
Just a Clarification
I am not agonizing about buying yesterday, I could dispose off those few thousand shares with ease.
That is not the issue, also I understand the overall week markets which is going to influence the selloff regardless the strength in the company.
I am concerned about the past test results not being released!>
My experience with researching Anti microbials and systems for testing is that if you have a protocol already developed, if you already ready product to be tested and facility available to test there cannot be(in this case of NNVC testing) more than 2-3 months and give and take 3-4 months to interpret results.
In our case here NNVC is way overdue and all the dancing around and not releasing results just makes me skeptical.
flyasif
Doc FG,
I bought more yesterday at 1.90, thinking your logic and faith but the past results factor was bothering me so I wrote Dr S.
Frankly I was not convienced by his response.
flyasif
AZ,
As I said before, I will modify my "investor" mentality with some level of trading this stock because I do not want to get trapped with my my fully loaded position!
flyasif
No I disagree, I did not ask MYWAY.
I asked why have we not heard anything about those past test results?????
flyasif
DOC,
I understand your analysis and Dr Seymour's too.
All I am saying is We do not have to be Pessimistic all the time but atleast be Skeptical sometime, response could mean just that may be nothing no test result are coming untill they find "TWEAKED" ligand by repeat testing!...........still ongoing?
flyasif
I agree with you ovi, I structured my e-mail this time carefully for specific response.
flyasif
AZ
I know I was not asking him to give me the "TEST" results and I made clear in my e-mail, I just needed to know are the past test results going to be released in "NEAR FUTURE"
My take of the reply was "NO COMMITTMENT" if it happens happens, when who knows.
SHould I believe CIDES worked? or they are continuing to test because they did not work( I am talking about second round of testing not HSV 99.99% cured etc )
flyasif
I might have to rethink my investment strategy if no results by next week.........I should make my NNVC load lighter Just in case.
flyasif
Yes,
I was not looking for the "ACTUAL" result but just an indication that they are forthcoming...........and the answer is who knows.
flyasif
Dr Seymour's E-mail Response:
My E-mail:
On May 20, 2010, at 5:53 AM, asif saiyed wrote:
> Dr Seymour
>
> I have written to you before and thank you for always being prompt with your replies. I should clarify I am a investor and not trader in NNVC company stock.
>
> Being Microbiologist and Infection Control professional I appreciate your teams work. As a investor I do have couple of questions I hope you would not mind answering.
>
> I know you are busy with requirements for uplisting and other related filings but myself and many investors are now very anxious to hear about "Actual" test results from TheVac, LSU, CDC, Dr Harris etc. We always hear about new testing but NO results from previous years test results.
>
> I am sure you may have your own time frame but it's been TOO long for these overdue test result. When can we realistically expect to hear about those results(good or bad testing outcomes) May I have your permission to post your reply on investor board?
>
> Sincerely
> asif
Dr Seymour's response:
Dear Asif,
I understand your concerns perfectly
Even though I know the answers to your questions, it is both unethical and illegal to communicate information to one person or a class of persons without letting all of the investors have the same information at the same time
As a microbiologist, I'm certain that you understand the complexities of doing the experiments, assembling the data and then putting it into a format that be understood by everyone
That's not an excuse but the harsh reality of the situation
Sincerely,
PS You're free to share my response with your colleagues and other investors
EUGENE SEYMOUR, MD, MPH
Chief Executive Officer
NANOVIRICIDES, INC
Nanotechnology-based targeted anti-viral therapeutics
http://www.nanoviricides.com
eugene@nanoviricides.com
Here is my take on uplisting
There is nothing automatic about SP rising because we will uplist, no doubt it will make NNVC a featured company to new investors.
I think lot of news is built in at this point unless we crank up the PR machine(I doubt that because it's only the CEO doing all the grunt work)
SP will rise regardless of uplisting if the news is released of actual results from FLUCIDE, THEVAC etc. Everyone believes NNVC will succeed in some form but want to see tangible results---one we have been so patiently waiting for. Did the LSU test perform as expected? Where do we stand as far as HIV testing?
We keep hearing from Dr S that the testing phases for diseases NNVC is dealing with are so short...............well then where are the CONFIRMATION results......they should be available by now.
I will not even get into the website business!
flyasif
Doc FG I am lost in numbers!
Please explain, does it mean buying resumed after 10am?
flyasif
Arch Thank you
I will do the rollover in to that IRA, may be there are better benefits in trading and realizing gains in traditional IRA or ROTH IRA vehicles.
Thanks
flyasif
IRA account
Need help!!!!!!!!!!
Someone suggested here earlier that you could possibly trade NNVC or any other equity within a IRA account?
Any help on how/where and limitation insight will be appreciated. I have Ameritrade account.
Thanks
flyasif
Doc FG I could not resist
It was too tempting I bought more NNVC.........I hope it does not dissapoint tomorrow too.
flyasif
Yes that is exactly my point
If I had great news to share why would'nt I PR it. There have been months before today when news could be released.
For Another_Voice_TOO, sorry bud I wish we can agree but l have NSPH---despite off overall dissapointed earnings report in TODAYS market has not gone down as NNVC
flyasif
I know i will buy but not TODAY!
There is genuine dissatisfaction today on my part, does not mean there will be no news. Promises must be kept.
I will buy below 2.0
flyasif
Ok let me agree with you a minute, if this is all games of MM then whey aren'nt the buyers stepping in pick up cheap shares?
as of last minute ALL of you iHubers please pick up some cheap shares at 13-15% discount and bring the SP back up!
If you believe in the company TODAY why are'nt people buying on the opportunity?
flyasif
Spin...Spin....and more Spin
Nano I agree with your sentiments 100%!
I have bought and been holding long just like you, every once in a while I get furious and frustrated by lack of communication.
Here is the the thought for the people who like to always put a DEFENSIVE.. Spin on things..............
Agree it's been 4 days since the "QP" ended, do you all really want to believe that the PR will be written "AFTER" the QP was approved?
A company should be ready in anticipation of approval with WRITTEN PR so they can fire away at the best time when investor sentiment is highly positive.
So IMHO this idea they cannot give the results of testd because of QP does not make sense. Look at ANY other BIOTECH or growing company they are current on what is going on with the company.
Selling today is not because of PANIC in general market, it is because of investor disappointment once again. I own other nano technology and RNAi technology stocks and they have not gone down with the market..........It's the PR stupid?
flyasif
Thanks doc
So it was the review of what was said and done by NNVC till the time of conference.
Thanks
flyasif
Dr Diwan's presentation?
Whatever happened with Dr Diwan's presentation in New York? What did he present?
Does anyone has any info and/or access to his talk.
This is what I mean when I say NNVC just does not keep up. I have not even seen NNVC declare that he presented at the conference, it was one of the IHUBER member who pointed out.
Why NNVC would not point out the obvious chance to PR? I do not get it. All other companies are very fast to point out the positives.....here is an example from today.(see link) why cannot we do this simple thing. I think this was before QP?
http://finance.yahoo.com/mp#mrna
flyasif
Laawaris it's only 0.05cents!
were you looking for a quick buck. Hold on and you will be duely rewarded.
With NNVC many things happen but in a "DELAYED" mode.
flyasif
Now that I can live with.........
If big Brother(Pharma) refuses to show it's hand then we will be better off going alone.
Wish NNVC could tell them after placement of $40mil to BUZZ OFF!
flyasif
Your Assessment
Doc FG, I cannot disagree with the probabilities you have laid out but please make me understand what is with this Mystery Pharma?
Now that QP is over why cannot Dr S and company reveal that? As far as I am concerned Mystery Pharma had enough time to probably even complete a Phase II type of studies by now..........so why such a hyde and seek games?
I would be most thrilled if they announced Dengue results and Mystery Pharma UNMASKED!
As Dr S mentioned in his last e-mail to Piecemaker? "he cannot wait to tell investers all the results" I cannot wait either!
Long enough!
flyasif
I do not want to wait
Bought 6k more, who cares about couple of pennies when we are talking about $20.....right NanoPatent!
Who know where will it go on Monday or Tuesday with any "substantial" PR
flyasif
Don'nt know what tomorrow will bring but....
I am following ema50, I am not planning to pick any more unless we come close again to 1.70 or 1.50.
Hey think about it we were debating earlier this week NNVC may not trend any lower then 2.00 but then.........
Whatever the reasons may be, MM are shaking people off their shares, big brother is playing games; I do not care. Everyone should think of buying some if you see a dip so vast tomorrow or friday.....just an opinion I could be wrong.
No NEWS is BAD NEWS!
I just received this alert from CDC.........
April 27, 2010
This is an official
CDC HEALTH ADVISORY
Distributed via Health Alert Network
Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 8:00 EDT (8:00 AM EDT)
CDCHAN-00312-10-04-27-ADV-N
Potential for Dengue Infection Among Relief Workers Returning from Haiti
Summary: The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has received reports of dengue fever among relief workers returning from Haiti, where the disease is endemic. Health-care providers in the United States should consider dengue in the differential diagnosis of febrile illness in any person who has recently been in Haiti or other countries where dengue is being transmitted, and are encouraged to submit samples to state health departments (available from AZ, CA, CT, FL, NY, PR, and TX) or the CDC for proper laboratory testing. In US areas with Aedes mosquitoes present, infected travelers may also present a risk for local spread of dengue virus (es).
Background
The 7.0 magnitude earthquake that struck just outside Port-au-Prince, Haiti on January 12, 2010, caused extensive damage to homes and utilities and left many residents without proper shelter or access to important services such as electricity and water. Exposure to the elements and increased opportunities for mosquito breeding site proliferation have likely increased the risk of contact with vectors that may spread diseases such as dengue. Since dengue is endemic in Haiti and relief workers responding to previous disasters in Haiti reported high rates of dengue infection, the CDC Dengue Branch advises that physicians evaluate travelers returning with a febrile illness (or a recent history of febrile illness) from Haiti and report cases of suspected dengue to either their local health department or CDC.
Symptoms of Dengue Fever
Dengue fever (DF) is characterized by high fever plus two or more of the following: headache, retro-orbital pain, joint pain, muscle or bone pain, rash, mild hemorrhagic manifestations (e.g., nose or gum bleed, petechiae, or easy bruising), and leukopenia. The incubation period for DF ranges from 3 to 14 days but is typically about one week; therefore, illness may occur while the workers are stationed in Haiti or after they return to the US. Most dengue fever cases are self-limited and can be treated with bed rest, acetaminophen, and oral fluids.
A small proportion of patients develop dengue hemorrhagic fever (DHF), which is characterized by presence of resolving fever or a recent history of fever lasting 2–7 days, any hemorrhagic manifestation, thrombocytopenia (platelet count <100,000/mm3), and abnormal vascular permeability evidenced by hemoconcentration, hypoalbuminemia, or abdominal or pleural effusions. DHF can result in circulatory instability or shock, and the risk for these complications may be increased among persons with prior dengue infection. Adequate management of DHF patients generally requires timely hospitalization and judicious administration of intravascular fluids and close monitoring of vital signs and hemodynamic status.
Recommendations
Physicians seeing a patient who has illness consistent with dengue, as described above, and who has recently traveled to Haiti should seriously consider laboratory testing. Initiation of supportive care should not be delayed pending results of laboratory testing. Instead, laboratory results should be used to inform primary prevention efforts within the patient’s household and community. The CDC Dengue Branch provides free diagnostic testing for physicians and confirmatory dengue testing for health department and private laboratories. While some commercial laboratories in the US offer diagnostic services for dengue, these commercial labs are not always able to provide results that can distinguish recent from past dengue infection.
Physicians should collect specimens from patients who have symptoms consistent with dengue infection and who have traveled to Haiti within the past 30 days and submit these specimens to their local health department or directly to the CDC Dengue Branch for dengue testing. A completed CDC Dengue Case Investigation Form with “Haiti Travel” printed on the heading of the form (http://www.cdc.gov/Dengue/resources/caseformhaiti.pdf) must accompany the specimens for each patient to be tested in the Dengue Branch.
· Public health departments that have the capacity to test for dengue are the following: AZ, CA, CT, FL, NY, PR, and TX.
· Physicians who practice in states not listed above should send the specimens directly to the CDC Dengue Branch (rather than to a private lab) and then notify the state health department of the case.
Whenever possible, physicians should submit paired acute and convalescent samples to facilitate optimal diagnostic testing.
Interval since
Type of sample onset of symptoms Type of Analysis
Acute until day 5 RT-PCR for dengue virus
Convalescent 6 to 30 days ELISA for dengue IgM
2 cc. (ml) of centrifuged serum accompanied by a Dengue Case Investigation Form (http://www.cdc.gov/Dengue/resources/caseformhaiti.pdf) should be sent to:
Centers for Disease Control and Prevention
Dengue Branch
1324 Cañada Street
San Juan, Puerto Rico 00920
Tel: (787) 706-2399; fax (787) 706-2496
As of 2010, dengue virus infections, including dengue fever (DF) and dengue hemorrhagic fever (DHF), were added to the list of nationally notifiable conditions. Improved dengue surveillance, consistent with international public health reporting obligations under the revised International Health Regulations (IHR, 2005), will help detect and report dengue cases when they occur.
Many parts of the US have competent vectors for dengue viruses; therefore, infected travelers may also present a risk for potential local spread of dengue. Three states (Florida, Texas, and Hawaii) have had local outbreaks identified in the last decade.
For More Information:
· Criteria for the processing of dengue samples at the CDC Dengue Branch is available at: http://www.cdc.gov/Dengue/resources/TestpolEng_2.pdf.
· Additional information about dengue is available at: http://www.cdc.gov/dengue/
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I Have to say Nano
Nano, I do not know how you do your research but your D/D is just mind numbing.
Where you you go and dig up info is beyound me, for that I respect you man!
flyasif
Nano I have no energy to argue about website
Would'nt it save everyone time and effort instead of one of us asking a question and Dr S replying to each e-mails why not just post that info on his website.......before we ask that question! would that be a novel idea?
flyasif
P.S. This is my last post about website, I am tired...LOL
What if????????????
What if bunch of us send e-mail to investor relations(if it is working) and ask corporate?
They can give us some idea...a ballpark date/month when this financial info will be expected to be updated?
Let us try and wake up the sleeping beauty!
flyasif
Funding opportunities......free money!
I came across this, may be our Docs at NNVC can get some of this funding from Uncle Sam?
http://www.nano.gov/html/funding/currentsol.html
What Happened?
I left my computer this morning for a meeting and now we are at 2.45?
I stand corrected, this is unpredictible. Market sentiment for NNVC is way too optimistic.
I am lost for words what is driving todays gain? Agora??
Cox Report
To tell you honestly, I was not impressed with this report...IMHO
I have read previous Agora report and they seem much more to the point and sharp, this kind of fizzles out.
Yes it talks about the possible link about virus DNA and other diseases but it failed to convience me(if I were a subscriber of Agora Newsletter)
I would seriously doubt if there will be a rally based on this report, infact I would see a small pullback to $1.90.
We will see rally but it will be driven by the news of testing or Pharma deal IF NNVC announces it anytime soon. So I would add to my position on the pullback but not crossing my finger for a rally in very near short term (I could be completely wrong---which is good in this case)...IMO
flyasif