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That is a very reasonable point Koog! I do not want this to be the "next way they get rich". By having us say "great preferred shares" and they ring up a crazy divy just for themselves.
That would suck and it is a fair concern, no doubt!
Go HFBG!
SRV -- I agree typically when a company starts saying dividends you should take a step back, I did. This is how I read it:
"Hey guys we are looking at other ways to secure some money. We have no concrete plans to have a dividend, but we want to know what you all think. Would you be willing to buy preferred shares if the outcome was a quarterly payment back to you? If yes, we will start to think of a way to see if it is possible. If no, we will move on."
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For what it is worth...
We all need to stop hyping a number that cannot be confirmed...
SRV should probably start sticky-ing rebuttals to people who are overly excited and posting conjecture as fact, so new people don't read false terms and blame the company.
We know from Jessica's mouth that this 2nd run was less than the first.
I counted 5 pallets in a picture and than had someone correct me that the total was 7 pallets based on company evidence.
Where are you ascertaining 80,000 bottles? Where did the COMPANY post 80,000 bottles? I do not see it anywhere?
WE HAVE GOT TO DO A BETTER JOB AS A WHOLE OF PROTECTING THIS COMPANY FROM BEING LABELED AS A FRAUD, AGAIN!!! IF WE ARE TRULY IN THIS FOR THE COMPANY TO GROW, WE CANNOT DRUM CONJECTURE AS FACTS!!! IT WILL SEND THIS TOPPLING AGAIN!
Come on EVERYBODY, we have got to be more responsible in what we post on both sides of argument, otherwise your words are labeled as "noise". Cheer lead with facts not speculation and outlandish assumptions.
Go HFBG!
Project, I still have not seen the confirmation of 80,000 bottles?
Where are you getting that number from.
I have heard as high as 7 pallets and that is what most were expecting in this "smaller" run. I feel like if it was going to be bigger than expected we would have had information passed along to everyone, somewhere.
Also, IDK anything about packaging and plants, but wouldn't it cost to change a run from smaller to larger in a short amount of time? Again, IDK and am just thinking out loud.
I digress, where is the confirmed 80,000 bottle production?
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This is the first time I could check in and see the new IR page...
It looks sharp and easy to read. The preferred shares is an interesting idea. I also like the updated share structure every two weeks. A lot of simple ideas are being put in to use to help bring needed clarity.
Time will tell, but I want to be right in saying, "We are nowhere close to the final result and I hope we never have to see a 'beginning' again."
Go HFBG!
That's a good document and a good start...
When will things be officially filed for the SEC to have on record?
Will this all be on your Q3 filing?
Agreed! But, having a run and placing it somewhere shows "it works".
Today's day, financiers want "it works", the "proof", if you will, that this loan is a safer investment (please don't comment you know who with some quip about, 'Safe? This company is far from safe!') than others.
If you can show production runs and where they are going, when all of a sudden a boom, "here is a bigger order that we need financing to fill" happens, the lender is more apt to say yes. (also please do not add the, "They have diluted this bloated pig. They should have plenty of funds on hand" comment either)
It is encouraging signs none-the-less!
Go HFBG!
I count... It took me a minute, but I think it is correct:
Two (2) twelve (12) packs side by side in four (4) rows, five (5) deep
which = 2*12*4*5 = 480 and in pic 27 I see 5 pallets stacked
480 * 5 = 2400 bottles of tea.
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Said nothing about selling low :]
Just said I got out today...
I think this company is either a great stock or a scam... I took my freebies cashed out and will wait on the sidelines... If it is legit and it is all clear. I have no problem buying at 1-5 cent range and riding it to higher gains...
Out today... May play it as a bounce at some point... but hit a personal stop for me and now this...
I hate when companies start threatening and posting on boards... Too many flags now for me...
Good luck to anyone still in this. I hope the best and will continue to watch from the sidelines
We may or may not bounce around in the 6/7 range until the next news release. I think the only way we see 5s on the ask again is if a one or several major players decide to get out at once...
Otherwise I think the 5/6, 6/7 channel will stay solid until the next chunk of news.
Follow through has been consistent EVERY TIME since the shareholder letter. Each day of follow through is setting this company nicely...
To the skeptics. It is setting us up for a real play or a sudden shove off the cliff that has been built with anticipation.
I choose real play, you all don't have to. I will admit I got suckered, will you all admit you all held on to the past for too long?
GO HFBG!
*EDIT not intended for you Trans, just who I happened to reply to.
yep!
I agree I can't shake the uneasiness I feel about this stock as well, but every time I think its over. It isn't...
I am just in here with free shares now so my stress is not horrible, but I haven't wanted to sell yet because the transparency of putting "contracts" and "POs" on your website is if nothing else a ballsy scam...
I do believe this company more now than I ever did before... If I am duped I will say it... But, I have not put anything in here that I am not willing to lose. And one more good move and it will all be free shares for me completely...
I'm riding free shares now, so my risk is not much to me anymore. But, come on pip you have to be shocked that this is staying above 007. If we close here in the next 4 minutes, it has to show something to the fact, that most don't feel it is a scam.
I'm just here to make money, to which I have done that. At this point it is a matter of how much, but you cannot argue that there is either a ton of confidence or kool-aid. Either way money is to be made here still it would appear!
.. NM figured out why, dumb url ads
*EDIT - WAY TO BURN MY 15th POST! Ha-ha! Someone close us at .0007!
Whoa...
Oh... Ha-ha! No more sad face, just a little embarrassed, Ha-ha!
Thanks SRV
Says I have to pay for the results, *sad face* ... Mind sharing it with the group?
Thanks to whoever that was!
Rules are rules for me! Even if HFBG is going to run...
But, I need someone else to whack the bid and fill the last of my .0006. Any takers??
Could we wait for just one more second before we run... I'd like the rest of my position to fill at .0006. It's only the remaining ETMM on the bid... It's fairly small, but I get annoyed with odd lots in my accounts and right now that's what I have XX,795,667 and I really would rather have XX,000,000.
Haha...
Go HFBG!
I sold $1,000 worth on the 29th and have incurred no problems or fees with E-trade, yet?
HFBG DTC
I see nothing when I run a search?
I understand, and I mean no disrespect. I personally, am just going to view it as noise as I can neither confirm nor deny any of it. But, again this is not on you or her. GL
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But as fellow investors we can't be privy to your discussions with her?
I hope you understand the questioning is nothing personal at all. There has just been so much junk from so many places, verification has become the only way to go here. Thank you for at least showing that much, even if I still take headers with salt.
Will you post for verification?
Good news so far, I checked the DTC and I couldn't find anything, but I did not dig super deep. I will keep looking to see if there is a flag up at the DTC anywhere
Will you post the email for verification?
I think we will jump up a few tics after the production run news... I'd love to see us stabilize there in the 7/8s or higher after this week.
Wait this was suppose to go down today? What happened to the "plummet" and the "back to .005".
Just place your buy over ETMM's asking price and it will force a tick up...
IHUB needs a "like" button!
I am off for the day good luck to all...
Go HFBG!
And in my opinion she is not. Which, it is okay to disagree, respectfully.
If she brings them start up success we, PPS wise will be in a much better place, and I will be happy.
Ha-ha! Cheap shot with the LJ photo, but humorous none-the-less.
This week there will be another run, which doesn't sound like that will impress you. If/when it happens, it will just be one more follow through on Jag and Jessica's part.
*They said they would reduce the A/S to cap the O/S. They did.
*There is a confirmed deal with a franchise group of Red Robin.
*I will not speculate with the Florida run as it has not happened and been confirmed, therefore it cannot be counted.
My expectations are the run will go through and the tea will start flowing from the franchise.
If it does not, then I am out. It is really that cut and dry for me. I am not looking to be right to win an argument or help to restore the faith in HFBG. I am not management, I do not work for the company, it is not my job. I am here to invest my money and make more money.
They have done enough to keep my money vested here for a little while longer.
You can't keep looking for ways to discredit something just because you have an opinion to the contrary. You have to at least acknowledge an opposing point in an argument, otherwise it is a lecture. And with all do respect, I like many on here, do not need a lecture about what you believe is good for me or this company.
*** You altered your point a little bit, so I will do the same.
First, last I checked the housing market is ridiculously competitive, but that is another argument for another board.
Second, You are correct in your stance of superconductors and surrounding yourself with experts in a particular field. But, my point all along has been, what defines an expert?
My contractor is an expert, but his resume said he was an ex-junkie failure. He had more knowledge than I did in this field, so I put him on my team, like my electrician, and my plumber.
You appear to want a company that tells you all about their credentials, I am a person who thinks credentials are easily lied about or stretched to appear "better" in the light. I want results.
I believe results make credentials, not the other way around.
GO HFBG!
I was 19 when I bought my first house, I had never hired a contractor before.
My mom was in kitchen and bath designs and I had been to a few constructions sites when we lived in California, but I personally had never done anything with it.
I saw a crack in the housing market and jumped over it. I went through 5 contractors on the first house until I found a guy I liked. He was a very honest contractor, I KNOW CRAZY, but they exist.
He was a younger guy with a family and he was having a hard time making sales, but he worked hard. He wasn't the brightest guy, but he had a passion for working with his hands and building. I hired him for that, not for his lengthy resume, to which it was very limited. Together he and I learned a lot and became very successful. That was 8 years ago.
He had a heart to serve and teach, he showed the kids in my program how to do something other than play sports and be successful. He was the best hire I ever had and he was not the shiniest tool in the shed.
The housing market is competitive. We still to this day have never been in the red regardless of the market conditions.
It does happen. Go HFBG!
Folks have a right to chose to invest in whatever they would like.
If people don't like not knowing history of a CEO, they have the right to invest elsewhere. But, no one is entitle to throw money down and then start making demands about what they want to know after the fact. Unless they are MAJOR players, which not many of us(including myself) our.
If/when we have a production run, if/when we have tea flowing from a Red Robin Spout, if/when we have product on shelves, if/when we have a reduction in O/S, if/when we have sales data, If/when etc.
I am placing some bets on some of the aforementioned "if/whens" being done. I am not here for a potential dividend in 5 years. I am here because of what I believe is feasible to be accomplished according to my personal opinion and my personal trading plan on personal time table.
Good luck to all go HFBG
Thanks... Agreed on all fronts, but I guess my point was, yes, I would like a little more information on who is running the show, but one way or the other it is not swaying me currently, because I see some results.
I posted before. When a CEO comes out and acknowledges the past and throw it out there for all to see and then apologizes it means something to me...
If she is lying and had the gall to put something like that out to people knowing full well it was a lie, IMO a small loss on a company is far less then her penance to be paid for something as nefarious as that.
GO HFBG