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You nailed it. We need substance from now on or this is going to appear just like every other pinkie. A lot of PRs that are more to do what is to come not the facts with the numbers. I sure hope Jared starts to give us this kind of information because if the next one is vague we will drift sideways or even down. I think this company has something but all of my investment banker types will not touch it because of the number of shares, pinkie, no audited results and not knowing the structure of the shares O/S
We will know soon.
Right now until we have solid numbers and contracts for this yr the market is only valuing the company based on last yrs results at a pe of @10.
He was not in the office when I called this morning. I am still waiting for an answer from him.
Z I sent you a email to your personal email adress.
Did you get sick on the trip? You say you have two more days to take the stuff.
I is good some one gets it here. I have been saying the Green factor and carbon tax credits they can sell. When you clean up the poop in 3-5 days instead of 30+ man that is a lot less Green house gases emitted. You get it.
Give us the number too so we can call. I think they are doing this to make the technical indicates go to hell with a big dump so their buddies can buy cheap. The technical daily indicators had turned aroud and were lookig good.
Look at DOW how well it is doing.
I left a message for him to discuss China. I have not heard back. I also put a call into Mark Murphy. I think they are being gagged.
Some interesting reading on livestock waste: Huge market for EESO
http://letters.salon.com/env/feature/2008/11/27/almost_green/view/index2.html?show=all
The 7 EMA broke the 20 EMA which means it is ready to run.
Google paid 1.6B for it and now has mega lawsuits - so 1B for a compny making money in the Green space with no lawsuits its possible.
I do think DOW could be it. It all makes sense. I forgot about the Dow Ag co. in Indianapolis. It is tucked away in the NW corner of Indy and they have been very quiet for all of the yrs I lived their. DOW is trying to get into niche high margin businesses and this one would fit into their plan and it would compliment the Dow ag company. Also I know how tight the gov't people are out there. They probably helped setup the contacts with Dow and Jared. They will do anything to get more business and i bet if a deal is done you will see more manufactured buildings and etc go up in IN.
I just had a meeting with my contact on Friday to discuss this product for China. She is from there and handles sales of product ther and is working on some engine emission programs for US companies selling into China. She says they are so interested in green house gas reductions. I was starting to dicuss more of this with the company until the PR release. The China market is so much larger than Korea. They now are #1 in producing Green house gases and will have to show the world they are doing something about it with the new Accord being discussed in Denmark this fall. My friend is working with all of the Chinese gov't people in the environment rules and regulations right now. She says they can write laws that spell out who to use. This cannot be done in most countries. If you think Korea is big just wait for China - I mean they should not wait one minute.
It is obvious reading the press release the company that made the offer sees what I have been saying for a while - this company is in the hot Green space and can help companies reduce their carbon foot print buy selling carbon credits. No one on this board has said much about - people even were making jokes about the article I posted out here in CA on how they want people to stop eating beef because of all of the Green house gases they produce. Jared has never mentioned anything about this potential for their products I have been saying it is huge. I have been talking to some of the people at EESO about. This is a part that has huge potential and this company that maded the offer sees this Read his comments again. They know more laws are coming and they want to have a product ahead of the competiton that has a track record. They will have to pay premium because if they do not we will be in play when Jared says no to a low ball offer. So Jared does have some good leverage in getting his 1-2 dollar price. Re read the article I posted - CA sets the new standard. Look at auto emissions they have won and the auto guys will have make cleaner cars now that Obama is in the big house.
I propose a new contest who can guess the correct buy out price?
This means the price and what it is made up of - like cash, stock or options, warrants and etc. Plus the the correct buyer
I say the stock is worth .50
So say we get cash and stock from Dow.
With a premium I say the following:
.25 cash per share of EESO plus 1/10 of a share of DOW for each EESO share = .75 of DOW for a Total of $1.00 buyout
So you mean that the valuations would be based on what it would do in 5 yrs. If that is the case 1B-2B would be a figure to use. So 5 times 1B divide by 2B shares would be $2.50 buy out. That would be great but I am not sure thy could get that.
Could you email me about China. I talked with Mark about it and I just had my meeting with my China contact. I believe by email was forwarded to you by a poster here.
Usually in Japan it is said the Minister of --- I think they just got it backwards in the PR.
I would think it could be Dow they need to grow. I cannot remember if it was Dow or the other chemical co. that way over paid for Roshe a speciality co. they need for growth. They have since we negotating the price down. Look into it. They need growth. Green is going to be like the internet boom was if you have the right co. Only difference you will have show you are making money this time around and EESO does.
I bet it will be cash plus stock. Not many companies in todays environment want to use up much cash. One good thing is most stock are at the lowest of lowest prices in 20 yrs. So if we get cash and stock - the stk has only one way to go - up
Thats for a company with limited growth. Look Google paid 1.6B for YouTube with no earnings. It all how they valve a green co. Now Green is in and the value is what they want to pay so no one else gets it. I believe the co. will be in play next week.
Who gives a flying f-- about the spelling with this information. I think if they base the price on what the end of the yr the co. could do - I think 200M then times it by 5
and divide by 2B shares .50 is a fair price. If they see it as a real growth they need for the Green space which is hot now it could be valued more. So .25 would be stealing the co.
.50 would be fair price if based on end of yr sells. If they add in a premium it should go some where between .50 - 1.oo
Just my thoughts.
Great job abcde
With LOI you guys are right. Usually they pay 5 times revenues for a co. so if they say it has 100M sales then 5 times it is 500M divide by 2B shares = .25 buy out
I was looking for signed contracts and some dollars too. I just hope they come thru soon or this is going to be looked upon as a typicalpinkie. He needs the bove to get new investors. Not alot of meat in PR more like most pinkie's PRs-
I hope he delivers soon.
Looks like they let 100k plus thru.
Please give link
He got back last night and today is his first day back from his trip.
I just talked to him he is a nice guy. The only problem is he is an operational guy not a product guy. Jared is the product guy.
Not a bad idea. They use a lot no flush urinals out here and it would a good idea for the stuff.
The 7 EMA is so close to crossing over the 20 EMA and the MACD is almost turning positive on the long term chart. The PR would probably be enough to make all of this go positive and the stk could move.
Probaly waiting for the lawyers for the companies they are dealing with to ok it. They take their time and have no time table.
It does not look like many buyers coming in. 4m is low volume.
I wonder how they think they are going to get new buyers
Well said I could not have put it better except they Sh--t happens.
Ya I kind of think that now. The did dive a good bit but it has come back. It the news was bad and leaked I think the stk would be under .01.
I am wanting to know the same thing - was it a setup?
I do find it funny that onemillion has this information and others cannot get it
Lee has the money and contacts to put up a factory over there. If they are restricted at a higher price to be sold that would be a positive.
We need a PR from Jared stating one way or the other if he will allow the T/A to let out O/S shares. This needs to done to stop what is going on. No one knows the true of what is going on. My experience they will not give out any information. the co. needs to put out a statement clarifying there position on who lets out the O/S. I seems to smell now.