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Lions Gate buyout offer raised by Icahn. He really wants LGF bad. Also, he's noted on record that the DVD/Blu Ray/VOD side of LGF's business is very valuable. That's the same business Hannover is honing in on. Would love to see Icahn make a bid for TDGI some down the road for $7 per share... Ah, one can only dream.
http://www.mysmartrend.com/news-briefs/news-watch/carl-icahn-boosts-buyout-offer-17-7-share-lgf
Lions Gate hostile buyout offer upped by Icahn. Icahn sees tremendous value in the DVD/Blu Ray/VOD side of their business, and he wants LGF bad. This is the same lucrative business Hannover House is honing in on. Wouldn't it be great to see in a few years Icahn doing the same thing to TDGI? One can only dream.
http://www.mysmartrend.com/news-briefs/news-watch/carl-icahn-boosts-buyout-offer-17-7-share-lgf
Bingo, I think that's exactly what's happening. No one's not supposed to take profits, and in fact you'd be a fool not to.
Thank you for not only this spreadsheet by the great Google doc you created on all the DD for TDGI, sort of like a prospectus. I've passed that around to quite a bit more people.
All valid points, Rain. I'm sure there's some who have sold, but the price staying at its higher level tells me the float is still locked. Otherwise this would have tumbled down to where it started. You see it every day, a stock can run several hundred percent only to be back to where it was before the run a few days later because everyone sells.
Fantastic post! Person mark from me. This is a must read, and Mods should consider stickying this.
One thing I do know from my reading is that the float is entirely locked and people have 30 million more shares than exist as has been posted. So the 5.5 million additional shares will still leave 24.5 million shares that don't exist. That's huge, even if you take only half of that. They may not be shorting it today, but there's no denying the MMs have shorted CDIV into oblivion over the past year.
Great post, PM for you! Focus is the key. We need tunnel vision right now.
Thanks, I appreciate it. Hold strong, and don't forget why we're all here.
Welcome to the front lines of a war of the mind...
Anyone participating here should mentally prepare yourself for more of this nonsense false reality or else you will eventually get shaken. You have to have the mindset that you've surrendered to the fact your money is gone for the time being (of course in reality it's not as this is just temporary). When you get to that place, then the MMs tactics can't influence you. People go to very sophisticated schools to learn how to mentally manipulate the mind of retail investors like you and I. It's one of the most lucrative businesses there are. The only known way to beat a MM is to remove your emotions from your investment in a FLD, assume you're going to temporarily lose your money, then wait them out. It has to happen this way, otherwise every investor would always win and the MMs wouldn't have such a lucrative business. Remember, if you hold through the worst of this, you will eventually win. You only lose when you let them paint you a false picture of reality and get inside your head and make you question what you're doing and turn against each other. Think divide and conquer, that's how the MMs work. That's the heart of their tactics. First they do it on the charts, then they do it through message boards. Float locks are the front lines of a war of the mind.
Welcome to the front lines of a war of the mind...
Anyone participating here should mentally prepare yourself for more of this nonsense false reality or else you will eventually get shaken. You have to have the mindset that you've surrendered to the fact your money is gone for the time being (of course in reality it's not as this is just temporary). When you get to that place, then the MMs tactics can't influence you. People go to very sophisticated schools to learn how to mentally manipulate the mind of retail investors like you and I. It's one of the most lucrative businesses there are. The only known way to beat a MM is to remove your emotions from your investment in a FLD, assume you're going to temporarily lose your money, then wait them out. It has to happen this way, otherwise every investor would always win and the MMs wouldn't have such a lucrative business. Remember, if you hold through the worst of this, you will eventually win. You only lose when you let them paint you a false picture of reality and get inside your head and make you question what you're doing and turn against each other. Think divide and conquer, that's how the MMs work. That's the heart of their tactics. First they do it on the charts, then they do it through message boards. Float locks are the front lines of a war of the mind.
Welcome to the front lines of a war of the mind...
Anyone participating here should mentally prepare yourself for more of this nonsense false reality or else you will eventually get shaken. You have to have the mindset that you've surrendered to the fact your money is gone for the time being (of course in reality it's not as this is just temporary). When you get to that place, then the MMs tactics can't influence you. People go to very sophisticated schools to learn how to mentally manipulate the mind of retail investors like you and I. It's one of the most lucrative businesses there are. The only known way to beat a MM is to remove your emotions from your investment in a FLD, assume you're going to temporarily lose your money, then wait them out. It has to happen this way, otherwise every investor would always win and the MMs wouldn't have such a lucrative business. Remember, if you hold through the worst of this, you will eventually win. You only lose when you let them paint you a false picture of reality and get inside your head and make you question what you're doing and turn against each other. Think divide and conquer, that's how the MMs work. That's the heart of their tactics. First they do it on the charts, then they do it through message boards. Float locks are the front lines of a war of the mind.
Welcome to the front lines of a war of the mind...
Anyone participating here should mentally prepare yourself for more of this nonsense false reality or else you will eventually get shaken. You have to have the mindset that you've surrendered to the fact your money is gone for the time being (of course in reality it's not as this is just temporary). When you get to that place, then the MMs tactics can't influence you. People go to very sophisticated schools to learn how to mentally manipulate the mind of retail investors like you and I. It's one of the most lucrative businesses there are. The only known way to beat a MM is to remove your emotions from your investment in a FLD, assume you're going to temporarily lose your money, then wait them out. It has to happen this way, otherwise every investor would always win and the MMs wouldn't have such a lucrative business. Remember, if you hold through the worst of this, you will eventually win. You only lose when you let them paint you a false picture of reality and get inside your head and make you question what you're doing and turn against each other. Think divide and conquer, that's how the MMs work. That's the heart of their tactics. First they do it on the charts, then they do it through message boards. Float locks are the front lines of a war of the mind.
There's a whole other drama that's playing out on the Ivy League OTC board that's maneuvering to bring it down to load up. Who cares though, these days are numbered. Our vote and our focus is on Eric and his capabilities, not some hacks trying to manipulate the share price short term for their own gain.
That's why I'm suspicious that they're not selling the 200 million share overhang. None of the other market makers did this from December through now. VNDM is the only one playing with it like this. They're up to something other than just selling shares I feel. Doesn't matter, we're gold here. Eric is delivering big time, and no one will hold this back for too long.
Smoke and mirrors. He shows up on the bid to get others to show up on the same bid, then whacks the the bid from their ask. Case in point is what just happened. They took out .043 and are gone from the bid and we downticked.
IDCX on sale right now, down 55%, .065 X .07. Good place to enter?
This is a genius move. He's stroking the ego of the retailers who will in turn help tremendously with the sales of the DVDs and Blu Rays. Nice move, Eric. Even the way this guy distributes films is unique and out of the norm and newsworthy. Yet another sign Hannover is destined for greatness.
What's even more bizarre is you'll notice this is Shepherd's Crossing 2 -- as in the second version of it. Apparently there was enough pent up demand from the first one that people demanded a second.
Here is post from a message board about the first one in reply to someone's question of when the first one is coming out in America:
It's been out for quite a while, however, it's only in Japan and there is no plan to bring it outside of Japan right now, and it probably will never get an English-language release :(
http://www.success-corp.co.jp/software/ds/hitsuji/
Official Site :)
It has stuff like marriage, stackable hay and stuff, ability to plant seeds in rows, and an action limit on turns to increase difficulty. The biggest addition, however, was the friendship/love system that allows you to make friends with the villagers, have meals together, and get married.
Stackable hay?!? Where do I sign up?
Thanks. I think today will be an interesting and telling day. Could be a monster move today, but one never knows.
I'd prefer to move to where DOMS is, in short order.
Nice chart and great analysis. Appreciate you sharing that with everyone.
After all the digging I did last night, FIMA seems to be a decent play. Learned that the convertible notes per the CEO is off the table and that property in Mexico is being sold to pay off the debt. Float is being accumulated, looks like a good spec play at under .02. I'm going to throw my hat in the ring on FIMA and see how it goes.
I see that. And what I really like is I'm finding that the CEO is stating there will be no more dilution, and the fact we can check that with the ungagged TA. My issue is cleared up about the convertible notes, and I can find nothing else negative about FIMA. I'm seriously considering opening a nice position today. Thanks to all for their good info about this pick.
No, I'm not trying to be like anyone, I'm simply trying to use all available means to get info in something before I invest because I've been burned by drinking the koolaid. That said, I genuinely wanted other's feedback on what they thought the possible deal was with the convertible notes. I like to bounce things off Rain because he is someone I implicitly trust and has done me right in the past.
I actually haven't read where the CEO said that the conversion hadn't/wouldn't happened, so I'll keep digging for that. My apologies if I came across as negative, that wasn't my point. But I am a big advocate for people knowing information. My post didn't put a negative spin on FIMA at all. And my post to Rain was simply just that, that I wanted to post it in case this info wasn't known and therefore could be a possible snag in an otherwise nice pick here. But I've learned more info in my DD, and I'm seriously considering opening a nice position in FIMA today thanks to yours and many others very helpful DD. Here's to making some money!!!
Thanks for the info. Figured I'd float it out there as potential issue. I'm still checking this one out, it's pretty intriguing to say the least.
Doing some DD on FIMA, I found this on page 18 of their quarterly report filed March 31, 2010. Anyone think this will be an issue going forward? Food for thought...
Also:
CONSOLIDATED BALANCE SHEET (UNAUDITED)
As of December 31, 2009
ASSETS
Current Assets:
Cash $ 477
Total Current Assets 477
Precious Metal Reserves 7,843
Loans Payable – Related Parties 208,152
Thanks. Just found it buried on page 18 in the "unaudited financials" myself.
Ouch, $477. You got a link for that so I can post it over on the board for FIMA? Lots of people starting to get all warm and fuzzy, and I hate seeing people snookered.
Thanks, I knew there was a catch. Still could be a good play though, but not as wonderful as many are thinking.
Appreciated, and right back at you!
Anyone see FIMA? Some action going on over there today. Small float, and some developments occurring. Rain, can you check into this one and give your two cents? Thanks.
I think your posts don't come across as undermining anything. It's great to have all perspectives aired out. I like your thinking.
You're absolutely right. There's more to it than the FLD. That's just one angle. You're winner here on many different fronts!
Agreed, and better put than I did. I'm proud to be part of the team. Thanks for the clarification. I'm loving the hell out of these FLDs. It's all about revenge...
You're right, the float has increased since then. But I pointed back to that statement of shareholders for people to see that the company has stated the float will rise due to it using additional shares as collateral. But they couldn't make it any clearer in their statement multiple times that those additional shares above the 77 million and change number will not be tradable, thus making the tradable float perpetually 77 million no matter what.
And I know there is a concerted effort right now from outside forces to get inside the minds of folks on all 3 FLDs. Unfortunately it's working. But there are way too many -- myself included -- who have bought into the FLD concept and use these misguided misstatements to keep adding to our stash. I see these plays as plays on Monk's reputation. There's a lot on the line for Monk with these 3 FLDs. A lot of people are buying into the concept, and from all accounts it's working. The chaff will get separated from the wheat, and in the end those who see the forest through the trees will win. Not everyone is meant to make a ton of money unfortunately...
As an aside, I've been a lurker on all 3 FLD boards for a while, and I've always enjoyed your posts.
Whatever magic eight ball you keep shaking to get your answers, make sure you keep using it because you're on a roll!!!
But to my understanding, the dilution doesn't hit the public float, therefore would have ZERO effect on the trading action as of late, and is only used as collateral. How do you reconcile that with the statement from the CEO found in this post?
The current listed and factual float for 800inc is 107,391,750 common shares. The increase in shares is a direct result of the capital raised for aggressive acquisitions as
listed. The stock utilised to raise the capital, is not available or leaked into the market and is held
purely as collateral. Thus the actual float, available to trade by investors, the public, market makers,
brokers dealers alike, still remains at 77,391,750 common shares.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=48443616
Great post, thanks for the info. Also, great call on the bottom.
Nice additions. I said back in December my max in this would be 1 million shares. I'm breaking every rule in my book on this one, and I'm loving it. I'm well over that number now, and any one of you will have to pry my shares from my cold, dead hands under .50.