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https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-53183454
Teledyne Marine is an accomplished name in oceanographic technology. All one has to read is Sea Technology and come to realize the real professional companies that are out there.The sheeple don't even know this but believe this SeaSearcher nonsense is the real deal.
Quote: The era of REAL treasure finds it about to break out
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The gonna be, wanna be team of amateurs. Why do you want to deny credit to some of the greats in the treasure hunting world like Mel Fisher of 1622 Atocha fame, Burt Webber of 1641 Concepcion fame or Bob Marx of 1656 Maravillas fame? (All found with the magnetometer by the way) These were real treasure finders, not part of a laughing stock clown show.
Quote: You know what I don't know anything about? Buggy whips and spittoons. Very uninformed on those antiquated devices.
Times have changed. The era of REAL treasure finds it about to break out. You can stick with yesterday's tech, I'm going with the future!
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Oh but I do know. I can clearly tell by your posts. As far as your 'going with the future', its more like going with the looser.
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You and I and actual shareholders understand exactly what is going on.
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No, I don't believe you have a clue when it comes to the treasure hunting side of it.
Quote: What's wrong with next week? Or the week after? It really doesn't matter if you own shares. Throwing stones is risky, what was that company you worked for? Oh yeah that was mex# they were here and gone faster than you can blink! Now there was a terrible stock to own. How much treasure did they find for shareholders. Jmo
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I didn't work for MEXP. I worked for Hispaniola Ventures who got screwed by MEXP (Mark Goldberg). Webber found more shipwrecks (and treasure) in half a year than tis outfit has ever found. On that note this outfit has never found anything worth mentioning..As far as being a terrible stock to own, I would have to agree with you. Goldberg could have never kept a 'hot air balloon' up there this long.
Quote: Looking forward to next week!!
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What was wrong with this week? The conditions were great.
Quote: I am glad i own a crap load of shares!!! JMO
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Just like you said CRAP.
Quote: Agree, looking forward to the rest of this month!! Jmo
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First its a week and now its a month. Why not next season.
Quote: End of the chicken little story. JMO
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No, not the end of the story one bit. SFRX and all the cheerleading team miked the Torres mask (wink, wink) find for all it was worth. You nor anyone else has yet to address company incompetence in properly doing Due Diligence and Vetting on the clown.
Quote: You know, the way a responsible company would handle the situation.
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Oh, a 'responsible company' that hired the fraudster in a bar with out 'responsible' due diligence, vetting.
Says allot.
Quote: When Torres mentioned finding the mask he also stated he was donating it to university or museum? SFRX right off the bat said they didn't find it, Torres had found it on his own time on the beach. End of your theory. I am waiting and watching for actual sfrx information, on any finds.
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The famous SFRX Indiana Jones, Rambo, brilliant scientist, a proven lier and fraud. But now his 'out of-nowhere mask find is creditable. La, la.la, la, la.
I find it most amusing that the SFRX cheerleaders what no comment to;
Is the CEO familiar with the meaning of the words 'Due Diligence' and 'Vetting' ?
A real circus. The CEO meets this clown Torres in a bar and hires him? Unreal. Then out of nowhere comes the Peruvian burial mask, perfect timing. It didn't come out of the ocean, had it been so the State would have been raising hell.
As to Tinkerbell and the Buck Rogers sea mobile, I can't help but believe this jumping Manta outfit, or whatever their name is, saw this guy coming. No one on this team has any proven background in ocean technology, ocean sciences or practical ocean survey experience. So what? The sea state is good, the pretty sport boats are bobbing around out there with Tinkerbell doing its thing on the end of an umbilical cable so has there been any big news treasure announcement. Yes, I know, wait and see.
Quote: Price went UP after he was fired over a year ago. Doubled in fact. Till the CoVid Crash took everything down.
He's still a fraud and I'm sure whatever he's doing now is a fraud.
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Is the CEO familiar with the meaning of the words 'Due Diligence' and 'Vetting' ?
Quote: I guess we will all find out what happens shortly.
I don't mind waiting a few more days.
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Thats the spirit.
Quote: The bar is set. A few days...........and
and we’ll see treasure. That from an insider claiming he’s is buying more.
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I know. He's even investing in cheese.
Ideal sea conditions out there right on through the week-end. That Buck Rogers sea mobile must be out there really doing the boogie with Tinkerbell tinking away. Come Monday what will the excuses be for no shipwreck, no treasure?
AMZ552-022030-
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm-
928 AM EDT Thu Jul 2 2020
THIS AFTERNOON
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots increasing to
10 to 15 knots in the afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet with a dominant
period 9 seconds. A moderate chop on the intracoastal waters.
Chance of offshore moving showers and thunderstorms in the
afternoon.
TONIGHT
West winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet with a
dominant period 9 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal
waters.
FRIDAY
Southwest winds 10 to 15 knots becoming south 5 to
10 knots in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a dominant
period 9 seconds. A moderate chop on the intracoastal waters.
Slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the morning, then
showers and thunderstorms likely in the afternoon.
FRIDAY NIGHT
West winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet.
Mostly smooth on the intracoastal waters. Chance of showers and
thunderstorms in the evening, then slight chance of showers and
thunderstorms after midnight.
SATURDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south 5 knots
in the afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet. A light chop on the
intracoastal waters. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
SATURDAY NIGHT
South winds 5 knots becoming southwest 5 to
10 knots after midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Chance of showers and
thunderstorms.
SUNDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south in the
afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Showers and thunderstorms likely.
SUNDAY NIGHT
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet.
Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
MONDAY
South winds 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Showers and
thunderstorms likely.
Quote: We will see who the fools and sheep are "in the next few days".
The SeaSearcher rally has already made my share increase in value 10 times over and the REAL run hasn't even started yet.
Don't fill up on popcorn... I have the grill warming up for your crow.
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Yes we will see indeed. I predict the days will turn into weeks, then months and on.
This company hasn't produced a thing except 'hot air balloon' profits so good for you.
As to the crow, in all the years of unsuccessful waiting, the bird's probably on the endangered species list.
You know the old saying, 'fools rush in where angel's fear to tread'
I just love the new sophisticated wording 'metal discriminator'. Its a ferrous/non-ferrous analytical detector. They already exist, diver operated. Now this is going to make the shipwreck and treasure that isn't there suddenly appear. Incredible, but the sheeple just suck it up. Yes, me too, I'm grabbing more pop-corn.
Quote: It really doesn't matter if someone doesn't own shares, what sfrx is doing. In my opinion. As an actual shareholders I'm looking forward to what they do and may find. Those dang trees! They keep getting in the way of some people! Jmo
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Oh but it does matter, shareholder or not. Although I'm not a shareholder, I undoubtedly have more treasure hunting experience than most posting here. Naive investors may well appreciate my observations and comments on a zero success laughingstock company. From my perspective I see things quite differently and there are no trees in the way.
Quote: Over the past few weeks, the SeaSearcher team has been hard at work in the ocean scanning and qualifying the metal discriminator. The plan is to complete tests without a diver escorting the SeaSearcher and go operational within the next few days.
Scanning with a diver escorting Tinkerbell 2.0.
Now that’s funny.
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What a joke. They're milking that cannon (that Heartland found over a decade ago) for all its worth. Oh my, the 'archaeologists are doing a sketch for all the sheeple to see. They had years to do that but suddenly now its all important. I note in the photos the diver pictured is using the good old reliable ferrous/non-ferrous metal detector. I thought Tinkerbell was suppose to do that? As a professional who's been on quite a number of serious shipwreck surveys and salvage operations, the boats pictured are candy-ass sport boats but they look good. Great for water skiing and sport diving. Quite a clown show.
Sea conditions are workable and progressively get better into the week-end. The Buck Rogers sea mobile should be out there with Tinkerbell tinking along finding those billions in treasure. I can make a forecast right now. No wreck, no treasure and on going excuses throughout the remainder of the season. Thats my take. The clock's ticking and truly time will tell. Better than buying tickets to a circus.
MZ552-301430-
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm-
328 AM EDT Tue Jun 30 2020
TODAY
West winds 5 to 10 knots becoming southeast in the
afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a dominant period 10 seconds. A
light chop on the intracoastal waters. Isolated showers and
thunderstorms in the afternoon.
TONIGHT
Southwest winds 10 to 15 knots becoming west after
midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a dominant period 9 seconds. A
light chop on the intracoastal waters. Isolated showers and
thunderstorms in the evening.
WEDNESDAY
West winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south in the
afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a dominant period 9 seconds. A
light chop on the intracoastal waters. Chance of showers and
thunderstorms.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 feet.
Mostly smooth on the intracoastal waters. Slight chance of
showers and thunderstorms.
THURSDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south in the
afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet. A light chop on the intracoastal
waters. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
THURSDAY NIGHT
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 1 to
2 feet. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
FRIDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south in the
afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
FRIDAY NIGHT
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming west after
midnight. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
SATURDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south in the
afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Showers and thunderstorms likely.
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Goldenboy17 Monday, 06/29/20 05:34:25 PM
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Post # of 61796
They described its speed? Do you know how long it will take for it to scan a site?
Are you saying there are no existing known wreck sites that only need to be explored or, in this case, scanned?
"Professional"
Okay.
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They don't have to describe its speed. I know very well that umbilical connected toy can't perform accurate longitudinal transit line surveys at six knots. A site scanner, not a practical surveyor for discovering shipwrecks. No proof disclosed to date that the thing even works.
The word 'professional' ? I certainly hope your not applying that word to SFRX. Professional at what? Near fifteen years shoving money down a rat hole? Can't forget about the 'hot air balloon' profiteers who have done ok.
Quote: And then the next site, and the next and the next...
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I seriously doubt it will find anything on the first site which in all probability isn't even a 'site', and that's even if the toy even works.
When you say 'and the next site, and the next and'..... What are you thinking, that shipwrecks are just lined up and waiting for this clown show to find them. By description its not even a fast moving survey tool but rather a site analysis/assessment application if the toy even works - like said.
Why do you keep saying four or five BILLION dollars worth of treasure. Is that something the CEO told you? Here again I post the manifest below which at best today would probably come to maybe 15 million dollars. Another thing. 80 chests. Where did that horse crap come from?
The patache Nuestra Señora de la Concepción, San José y San Francisco is one of the missing 1715 shipwrecks awaiting discovery. The Concepción struck the south side of Cape Canaveral and sank. Seven survivors floated on a hatch cover for three days as the currents swept them around the shoals and sand bars of the cape, where they landed on beach and walked to St. Augustine. Treasure hunters have been looking for the Concepcíon for years without success.
Patache, Nuestra Señora de la Concepción, San José y San Francisco: 265-tons, armed with thirty-two iron cannons, Master Pablo Soliac, owner Don Antonio Echeverz went to Havana where she loaded 3,000 pesos in gold doubloons, four gold bars valued at 5,703 pesos, 15 serons of cocoa, one chest of vanilla, 15 3/4 tons of brazilwood, 1,440 cured half-hides and a large quantity of tobacco.
The 3,000 pesos in gold doubloons is not individual coins but peso value.
Quote: In my opinion your being bent, or swayed to think like some folks that don't own any shares. The sky isn't falling. JMO
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Being bent or swayed. Really? I would say the man has allot more common sense than most.
Quote: Spain has never had a partner that did not want to leave Spain holding the empty bag. It is no longer bad actors, but a responsible company should SFRX find a wreck.....
BTW, I still believe that the cannons were salvaged for WWII.
I am not up for a debate on the cannons. It is my opinion based on real conversations.
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Name me 'partners' Spain ever had please.
Through my wreck diving experience I know quite a lot about cannons lying in and about shipwrecks. Thirty two cannons scattered about lying in more or less 40 feet of poor visibility waters and sunken down into the mud and sand were not salvaged. Yes, easy access cannons in shallow water were salvaged from wreck sites during WWII for scrap value but many sites in shallower and clear water were left remaining. That applies to quite a number of the 1715 fleet wrecks as well as 1733 fleet wrecks in the Florida Keys. I don't blame you for not being up to debate as I seriously doubt the 1715 shipwreck cannons were salvaged. That's an easy excuse given for the fact that there are no cannons in the SFRX Melbourne areas or they would have easily been detected during the magnetometer surveys. The probability of the shipwreck even being there are nil. Flotsam yes, shipwreck no.
Quote: That being the case, Spain will probably build the museum for them.
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Not a snowballs chance in hell. Any treasure found would be confiscated just like in the case with Odyssey.
Spain does not like treasure hunters and doesn't do deals with treasure hunters.
Quote: The possibilities are almost endless, you state Spain doesn't allow salvage of their wrecks, most countries you say don't allow salvage of shipwrecks. Well if I were able to show you what was near your shores and the amount of treasure. I'm sure there would be a finders fee just to hand them the location!! The podcasts and their own Facebook shows who is working on the equipment. Some very intelligent people. Oh contrare the sky isn't falling!! JMO
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Again an absurd naive statement. To do anything close to what you're implying, an entity has to have a contract with that host country. For example, Spain is well aware of the treasure carrying ships that lie in its waters as well as other parts of the world. They, or other nations that are signature to the UNESCO Underwater Cultural Heritage Treaty do not deal with treasure hunting entities. Besides that, Tinkerbell is not a practical surveying tool to even find shipwrecks if one is to believe how it is suppose to work.
Its now June 29th and there is still no disclosed factual evidence that this pretty toy even performs. If so where is the evidence, where is the treasure? Most pros. see it as an on going clown town joke.
Quote: Yeah we all could be riding horses still, nothing wrong with a good horse right? Well we could have kept walking why the heck do we need planes? Phones? A/C , stoves? Refrigerator's? Everything always works just fine until somebody figures out a better way. Bottom line SeaSearcher will be a new way to do things. Doesn't the mag need to be towed behind a boat? Whats wrong with new way of doing things with equipment moving just above the ocean floor scanning? Seems very much more efficient? JMO I have no problem waiting along with millions of shares. JMO I buy many stocks and sell them also. This just maybe the game changer! JMO
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I just love your analogies. Although rather ridiculous they are humorous. You clearly know nothing about doing remote sensing longitudinal transit surveys. You keep trying to make comparisons to an eye appealing toy that has not been field proven and has found absolutely nothing of significance. It's still attached to an umbilical cable so what's the difference. Even if it worked, its not a surveying tool to find shipwrecks but rather an on-site analyzer. Under contract with governments (if any contracts are ever issued anymore), a shipwreck site has to be methodically excavated and recoveries made accordingly whether precious metals or not, so what's the big deal with this Tinkertoy. Shipwrecks need to be found first and this equipment isn't likely to do that. Overall, its a nice concept if it ever worked but once again I say its not a fast moving survey tool for shipwreck discovery.
Quote: I'm sure it means nothing to others but yes I have added shares. New equipment! New way of doing things!the new equipment is like a cellphone compared to the 2 cups and a string the old fellows use to use. I'm looking forward to positive news! Oh contrary to what you are being fed by some, the sky in my opinion isn't falling. Jmo
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The "two cups and a string" as you put it found / finds multiple treasure galleons and historic shipwrecks. The Tinkertoy hasn't found crap and hasn't even been proven that it works. The old blown smoke up the ars. Clown town excels in that.
Quote: And what if
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The famous repeatedly used SFRX cheerleaders theme 'what if' (among others)
Quote: Dr. John de Bry submitted his professional opinion for the site and he is the one who personally found many coins himself. But it sounds like it doesn't matter to you. He's a liar either way according to you.
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I know who de Bry is. Sometimes he wears a black hat and sometimes he wears a white hat depending on who's writing the check. So are you saying de Bry found coins on the beach but SFRX personnel can't find even one in all these years? Well golly gee, guess de Bry must have found them all.
Quote: Allow me to reconcile those comments for you.
If they bury something in the ground and the SeaSearcher locates it and shows them what it looks like in 3D, then it works. They haven't found treasure with it yet but it works.
If they bury gold, silver, copper and iron in the ground and the SeaSearcher is able to pinpoint those items and distinguish between each metal, then it works. They haven't found treasure with it yet, but it works.
SFRX shareholders understand this perfectly.
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You say "yet but it works". Work where .In fish tank or swimming pool tests? There is no publicly disclosed evidence that it does anything. The Tinkerbell has zero creditability as does the company.
Quote: In addition to this site being one of two 1715 ships, he also speculates that it could be the stern castle of the capitana. Which would explain the lack of cannons and ballast stones in the area.
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Who made that statement? Stern castle? Easy unsubstantiated statement to make. Bull crap. Sounds like someone doing his best to please the boss.
As to the coins on the beach; its he said she said. As to an old 8mm home movie, that could have been taken anywhere. Are you saying that in all these years now that SFRX has been playing out there, on bad unworkable weather days, dive personnel weren't working the beach with metal detectors? I know for a fact that they have done that numerous times and couldn't find zilch.
The very bottom line is you people are now down to the wire on the old 'just you wait and see'. The sea conditions are workable, its a relatively small area, Tinkerbell is supposedly tinking and you believe there's tons of treasure there for the taking. Well, lets say by first week in July this should all be a done deal. Right?
Quote: But those coins on the beach that have been found for decades came from a source.
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Would you please post photos and believable validation of those 'coins on the beach'.
Quote: Kyle told me 2 weeks ago that they had 2 days left of testing. That the seasercher was working perfectly was his exact words.
Now we should be expecting some damn good news.
My guess is theres no treasure there, all the years diving there , how can you miss 4-5 billion worth of treasure in 20 feet of water.
I blind gold fish could find it. Hooefully this tech can make sfrx some money somewhere else.
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Who ever told you 4-5 billion dollars? As the description states below the 1715 'Concepcion' would be lucky to reach a value of 15 to 20 million dollars. They're not stating 3,000 gold doubloons but 3,000 peso value. I believe the 4-5 billon might have been a Torres statement (exaggeration) which the company had no problem with him saying it. If anyone of more credibility had said that, I would hope they had the actual manifest to support the statement.
It can be validated that this company CEO has said allot of things over time that were not factual. The Buck Rogers sea mobile (Tinkerbell) seems to (publicly) remain unproven. Allot of on going 'blow-smoke'. Here again the matter of the 32 iron cannons. Very easy find with a magnetometer but they have not found one, with the exception of the only one being that previously found by Heartland. Where the bulk of those cannons lie, there will be treasure and artifacts also. The true track record for this company is embarrassing I would say.
The patache Nuestra Señora de la Concepción, San José y San Francisco is one of the missing 1715 shipwrecks awaiting discovery. The Concepción struck the south side of Cape Canaveral and sank. Seven survivors floated on a hatch cover for three days as the currents swept them around the shoals and sand bars of the cape, where they landed on beach and walked to St. Augustine. Treasure hunters have been looking for the Concepcíon for years without success.
Patache, Nuestra Señora de la Concepción, San José y San Francisco: 265-tons, armed with thirty-two iron cannons, Master Pablo Soliac, owner Don Antonio Echeverz went to Havana where she loaded 3,000 pesos in gold doubloons, four gold bars valued at 5,703 pesos, 15 serons of cocoa, one chest of vanilla, 15 3/4 tons of brazilwood, 1,440 cured half-hides and a large quantity of tobacco.
Quote: Did the company loan the treasure finder to a group in Italy? I see an Italian company discovered a 1600 Italian ship.
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The Italian discovery is not a treasure ship. "The company so called treasure finder" has yet to find anything.
Quote: You have your opinion. We will see who's right about many things very soon. Oh, there I go using the word 'soon'. Hope I didn't trigger you.
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I have more than just an opinion. I have verifiable facts. As for you and your opinion regarding the all knowing, all seeing Tinkerbell, you have nothing but unverifiable B.S.
Hey Goldenboy, the sea conditions are great out there, so forget about the wreck but where's all the gold and silver?
AMZ552-222030-
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm-
911 AM EDT Mon Jun 22 2020
THIS AFTERNOON
Variable winds 5 knots becoming southeast 5 to
10 knots early in the afternoon, then increasing to 10 to 15 knots
late in the afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet with a dominant period 8
seconds. A moderate chop on the intracoastal waters. Isolated
showers and thunderstorms in the afternoon.
TONIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots becoming southwest 5 to
10 knots after midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a dominant period
8 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal waters. Slight chance
of showers and thunderstorms in the evening.
TUESDAY
South winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet with a
dominant period 8 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal
waters. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
TUESDAY NIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots becoming southwest
5 to 10 knots after midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet. A light chop on
the intracoastal waters.
WEDNESDAY
Southwest winds 5 knots becoming southeast 5 to
10 knots in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet. A light chop on the
intracoastal waters. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT
South winds 10 to 15 knots becoming southwest
5 to 10 knots after midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Slight chance of
showers and thunderstorms.
THURSDAY
South winds 5 knots becoming southeast 5 to 10 knots
in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Chance of showers and
thunderstorms.
THURSDAY NIGHT
South winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet.
FRIDAY
Southeast winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Chance
of showers and thunderstorms.