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Lololol.......oops, it's not actually funny. So true. So much damage done. Most don't know the tenth of it.
I was gonna ask you some details about the lawsuit, but now that someone pointed out to me that's MAYBE you chose to USE me in an unfair way that implies certain things about me, I'll pass.
A side effect of being a fool is that you never get to realize it. It's like a closed loop or chasing your tail. There are more than one meaning to the terms "bashers" & "pumpers". Similar to the fact that you can't have a seller without a buyer and vice versa, you can't have bashers without pumpers. The problem is that so many use the terms in an incorrect and frivolous way. There are real pumpers, paid, unpaid, company based, outside based, etc. I have previously posted the various types according to the sec, right here. Their purpose is to manipulate the pps. This is well known and established fact. There are also real bashers, with the same attributes of above and whose purpose is again to try to manipulate the price. Some of the above activities are legal, some not.
Then there are just regular ppl who use the msg boards to express their true and honest sentiments. Some of them are clueless and just are the type that like to jump on the bandwagon to praise or bitch, holler and complain, solely for the sake of itself and not due to intelligence, knowledge, facts, real DD or any bona fide reasons.
And then there are those who believe in everything they say here and have just as much right to be negative about a company as those who are pro. That's what the msg boards are for....a place to express ones opinions, good, bad or ugly, about a company and are not in any way, shape or form there for the purpose of price manipulation.
The problem is that comments like yours show zero discernment of the above differences. And I have no choice but to see that as pathetic because in my case I have been here for a very long time and have been 100% consistent in my written opinions and conclusions from the gitgo, which began for me, when vplm told the BIG LIE via Chang and his lying PRs starting in 2011 but I didn't know the whole deal was bullshit until after they, on a dime, transformed into the mega patent troll that they are in more ways than one.
I have never shorted a stock and sice I'm a very long term shareholder, it simply makes zero sense that I would badmouth this company for the purpose of manipulating the price. That should be exceedingly obvious to any discerning reader of the board. I have backed up every single opinion and/or belief in have about vplm with the best, reasonable, logical, dot connecting, facts, observations, ideas, opinions I could gather and done a huge amt of DD all along the way. We all come up with our own conclusions................................BUT.......anyone who reads my stuff, aside from the humorous elements, as I do have a fun time with it.......is a fool if they come away with the conclusion that I'm so paid (or unpaid) basher who wants to see vplm fail and/or want to manipulate the price (as it I could actually do that, lol, even if I wanted to, which I don't), they should either have their head examined or work on comprehension skills or whatever it takes to reverse a complete lack of understanding peoples character.
All that said, I had to look at what you referred to from orca which was his reply to me, several times. I confess to maybe being distracted or something when I first read his reply and what he might have been implying didn't click for me until much later when I read your above post that's seems to imply 2 things I didn't get the 1st time around. You clearly said that based on my post (I can't even remember what my post was but no doubt I was negative on vplm in some way) orca was using me in the sense that he was thanking me for "making noise" against vplm that would bring the price down for him. Like I say, I didn't catch that at all when I 1st read it and I had to look it and my list over a couple times after your post. I still am not 100% that's what he was saying but it DOES look that way. And if that's what he meant then he was using me and he has the right to say whatever he wants (free speech) but ought to know better than to make me look that way. I will keep it in mind. So I thank you for getting me to take a 2nd look.......but......you're dead wrong. Take it or leave it. I don't just "bash" vplm. I've looked at it for approx 13 yrs and I call itnfhenway I see it. Now you can say you didn't read past the 1st line or one of the other usual comments or think it's all bs. Your prerogative or defect.
"Easy Google search and presto, oops there it is!"
Google search of what? A search of the obvious returns nothing of the kind
Doesn't make much sense as an answer because 1) that link is only to get ppl to ppl to sign up for their newsletter. And the lawsuit itself doesn't have anything to do with the sec. It says the suit was brought by shareholders, as in a class action. What does that have to do with the se? And in already told you that the sec and FINRA looked very deeply at vplm in the Scottsdale case years ago. That case involved the misappropriation of diversion of much funds from 4 companies, vplm being one of them, to offshore entities. The case went on for years and might still be open last time I checked. The govt mentions vplm numerous times in that case which is proof they looked closely at vplm since it was their shares in question. Meanwhile vplm has been at this bogus play for many years and the sec/finra did nothing. Were you aware of that?
Scottsdale Capital Advisors Corporation; Hurry, John; Diblasi, Timothy; and Cruz, D. Michael - SEC.gov https://www.sec.gov/files/litigation/apdocuments/3-18612-event-34.pdf
Not just here. All over the place 24/7 minus sleep time w/o exaggeration
Probably you 1st have to sign up for Bloomberg in order to read the rest of the article to get those details...........or.............try going to the NY court mentioned and enter:
COURT: S.D.N.Y.
TRACK DOCKET: No. 1:23-cv-07281
Hope that helps
Nah.....it's just a ploy by Bloomberg to have you sign up for a newsletter........
toofunny
Oh, and for the company it means "best POS ever" wasn't exactly accurate, as they keep getting better and better!
More monkey wrenches.........................AS PROMISED
theyneverlistendothey
Hey Emu........Guliano says he'll take your case for a small nominal upfront fee! Got cash? Haha.....of course you do. Just show up at the courthouse in Georgia around the 20th. Check the alleys...
Monkey wrenches UP.........vplm headed down
Like Gomer Pyle used to say......
surprise... surprise ....surprise
Maybe the Emu should ask for a venue change to Fulton County, Georgia
VoIP-Pal Provides an Update on Recent Developments in Litigation ā āThis is all very good news!ā said Emil Malak, CEO of VoIP-Pal. āOur team is very pleased with our progress to this point.'
devilmademedoit
Check out the 3 mo and 6 mo charts...they look like bad accidents. And the 1 year chart looks like it lost about 65% to date.
What does all this mean? Easy....."best POS ever" <sic>
No need to have patience.....it gets better everyday!
I know...I know...it's the "process"......lemme tell ya....a process without progress is like a leader without any followers.
Days ago...
Bonus question.........free cones for life. Any flavor as long as it's vanilla. Sorry, we have no control over the fact that ice cream machine is down 75% of the time.
Question:
Who goes to jail 1st...Emu, Babs, Inza, Trump, Guliani?
Added bonus - chocolate syrup:
Avg length of prison term...or.....how many years for trials to complete?
Vplm.....home of the IMPOSSIBLE WHOPPER!
Last whopper was the so called Amazon settlement, lol.
It was made of several components...
1st was the blatant lie PR that announced a settlement in principle was reached and would be done deal within 45 days....(let me know if I stated that wrong)
2nd was the Richard inYA (in your pockets) Inza reveal that there was indeed a settlement and one that would make shareholders happy (stated in call allegedly made by a poster and reported here)
3rd was the lack of any 8k to reveal material event and subsequent 10Q that stated there was no material event. If there had been such a settlement, reporting it was required. Therefore there either was no such settlement or not reported but why not report?
This, of course, is no surprise as vplm has been telling lies like this on numerous occasions and on a regular basis, as I've reported all along, since at least 2011
This raises the question.........
What will the next whopper be?? It would be great fun to once again hear your guesses. Prize for the closest guess is............drum roll please........you guessed it........a free whopper! Deadline for entries is open. Bonus for nailing the date of the whopper is large fries and a large mocha frappe. Offer not available in Hawaii, Alaska and Secaucus, N.J. Illegal inside traders not eligible.
Another 7 years is more like it...
That's what you get for non certified, unaudited reports
What makes you think the sec cares about vplm? Don't you realize the sec and or FINRA has already looked deeply at vplm in their Scottsdale case? I don't believe that they don't have the cash to go after all the scams because they collect big fines all the time. I put them in the same category as the PTAB and most all govt agencies, to one degree or another. Thank goodness for all the honest watchdog groups. Money and power rule.
I don't "enjoy" watching this company fail. For one thing, I'm a shareholder so it would be stupid for me to want it to fail and whatever is worse than stupid, to enjoy it's failure. Plus I don't enjoy innocent ppl getting beat for their money, just because they weren't savvy enough to realize what's going on, however I don't feel the same way about those who treat posters in a mean and immature way just because they don't necessarily agree with their opinion.
Also, I don't see what's happening with this play as a failure anyway. I believe it's a complete success in what it is setup to accomplish, in my opinion. Its purpose is not with the shareholders enriching in mind, in my opinion, but just as the jury of their peers said about vplm in a trial, a couple years back, they (with emu at the top of the list) were guilty of unjust self enrichment and a lack of fiduciary duty. So, it appears at least to me, that its all going according to plan. And it's up to the shareholders to understand how to make a profit here. As far as I'm concerned, being "long", esp the elite "true long", lol, or better put, treating this play like a savings account and waiting for it to grow, is not a very good idea. Yes, I know that it's worked out in that regard for some, a few lucky peeps, who got in sub penny or those who know how to day trade or swing trade, but it's a loser for many, esp due to the paid and unpaid pumps of all kinds and types, including vplm directly, indirectly and those groups who take it upon themselves to manipulate. And then of course the all powerful MMs. You olah here, you play with fire, you better believe it. Retails are definitely not the beneficiaries here.
Ooo, gettin awful close to the 1 cent range a little while ago. Was only about a half cent away. Scary..
Exactly what "insiders" are you referring to?
No one said anything about emu abandoning vplm. Of course he wouldn't, that's his baby that he developed over the last near 15 yrs. It's his and cronies personal ATM. VPLM bin beddy beddy gud to him. No way hed abandon and no way are the patents "all that".
Also must say that over the years, you have taken both pos and neg sides towards the emu. That's pretty confusing...
Lookout below!! dead bodies on the bottom... been underwater too long
"...THEY TRUSTED THAT DB POS,THAT WAS TELLING THEM,THAT SURPRISES WERE COMING.LOL.AND BARBARAS SELLING WAS NOT A BIG DEAL.LOL.I WONDER HOW MUCH HE WILL BE GETTING PAID ON THIS DEAL??HE WAS THE LEAD TO FIND BUYERS.TO RAISE MONEY.FOR THIS SHARE SELLING SCAM.A TON OF PMs.I HAD BLOCKED HIM BACK THEN...."
If you only knew how correct you are, lololol. Longs, er, I mean the haha "true longs" haha, are indeed to blame but the original lies went back much much further when during 2011, 2012 and 2013 Chang promised, swore up and down, 6 ways to Sunday, in PR after PR after PR, that vplm was alread in the process of folding the newly obtained technology into the already existing (unsuccessfully for about 10 yrs?) Vplm voip services.......AND.....that tens to hundreds of millions of dollars would forthwith be coming in yearly to the benefit of shareholders......and vplm would be the leader of voip, etc etc etc. These many PRs served to garner new shareholders and to sell many shares, creating the great treasure chest of wealth for the emu, wifey, and the vast supporting cast (the cabal). Then, shortly after the deal with digi was finalized (Chang said it was finalized many times during those 3 yrs, which was another lie to boost share sales and build many new shareholders) however, it was not finalized until the end of 2013. Shortly after that, then whole big promise was shown to be nothing but a huge lie and the whole idea was thrown away with no reason, no explanation, no shareholder participation........just BOOM.....hook, line and sinker, then OH, NEVERMIND.....WE WERE JUST KIDDING, LOLOLOL...........and shareholders didn't even blink! They accepted this huge lie and ripoff.....why?.....because instead of thinking it through and admitting they'd been bamboozled, NOW they simply moved the belief and unfounded loyalty over to the next big lie......which was........we have so much major interest in the patents from CEOs from all over the place and fortune 500 companies and S&P 500 beating our doors down that we'll just sell and it will happen very very soon. Yes, vplm said all these things, some direct, some clearly implied........and so if you go back and read the history, you will see that no one was concerned. Everyone here was absotively posilutely certain a sale, a big big sale would be happening REAL SOON. And there were the so entertaining guessing game contests going on here where everyone was betting on the timeframe and the amount, mostly from a billion to 25 billion. It news hilarious. I almost began to believe but I knew better and I said so all along. And I predicted all the big dates that would result in nothing due to the "monkey wrenches" and I haven't been wrong yet to date. That said, I hope like heck I am wrong for my own benefit and all those holding the bag and underwater. Let the miracle of the Magi happen! But I'm not seeing it.
Oh, you mean like all the rest of the BOD, ie Sawyer, Candy, Tucker, etc?
"What is really sad is that most of the large infringers have gotten off without having to pay anything for using our patents all these years."
The problem, is that you believe that statement. Why exactly, do you think most of the alleged infringers got off? Where is the proof they used the patents for all these years? If none of this makes sense to you, then why do you believe the patents infringed upon? I don't and in the end that what I think will be announced.
Where's my 50 cents?
100% agree. And the other misinformation would be the "missing information", since as you noted, the ommission of material events, equates to misinformation, especially in light of the fact that well, didn't vplm pr that there was a settlement in principle and later, it was reported that inYA pockets Inza, and he was quoted, reiterated that there indeed was a settlement and one that shareholders would be happy with, and I copied that post here.
What we have here..........is a failure to communicate the truth!
When Chang told the big whoppers back in 2011, 12 and 13, the shareholder didn't give a rats ass thus handed vplm carte blanche to go right ahead and tell the same kind of lies for the next 10-12 yrs.............so they did.......and the shareholders STILL let them slide. Vplm asked the s/h's to be gifted a nice shiny perpetually stocked ATM and the nice s/h's granted vplm's request.
Oh, and by the way, regards their being confused as to who the CFO is, reminds me.....do you remember long ago when they posted the picture of who was supposed to be one of the BOD members but instead posted some other unknown guy?
To be fair.....I have to disagree because how else do you raise tons of cash to maintain and keep.on keepin on regardless of the legitimacy of the company? Legit or not, dilution is the way to keep it going. And if it WAS a legit play, dilution is still the way to roll, if you don't have sellable product. They used to have sellable products and an alleged voip service providing company but they threw that all under the bus............guess why??
I'm not sure it started day one but it certainly goes way back. The peeps from vplm and from Digi were friends long before any patents business and that's according to the Emu and I believe became collaborators way back then. Emu had been accumulating (for some damn reason) long before he even became a mngmt guy. Both companies were almost mirror images in terms of trying to bust into the voip arena by acting like today's MVNOs (mobile virtual network operator). They basically rented turnkey businesses out of the box affairs. I think at first, DIGIFONICA was a private company. And vplm was making toys and molds and stuff like that but also had a voip connection as well. When Digi 1st got on the market, I think it was that hotbed of scams (according to many reports) in Canada, TSX. And vplm was I think below pink then pink for a long time. I have never heard of anything success either "company" engaged in and it's my belief and conjecture that them knowing ea other for a long time, someone........I BELIEVE IT TO BE THE EMU........came up with a plan that might possibly have been on the legit up and up at 1st, but after a time, they somehow realized that the whole idea of the patent applications and folding them into their platform and merging as one company with them ea needing ea other, was no viable for one reason or another and in think the Emu with all his experience at failures, was still smart enough to put together a plan to create a money making scheme for him and his supporters and he knew it would have to be a very sophisticated scheme to work. I think the rest is history. Yes, that's all conjecture on my part, but once many lies and other actions and non actions were put forth by vplm, then for me, the dots began to connect. But the thing that brings it all home for me and tirs any and all loose ends is how the big lie and the level of money involved if one were to believe vplm was legit, simply goes against human nature and there's been nothing to emulate or equal the alleged BIG STORY, BIG TALE, BIG LIE. No matter how knowledgeable the peeps here can explain it in a legitimate way, I can never get around the fact that it just doesnt make sense for big dog voip companies to simply leave sitting in the middle of the road for their competitors to grab at any moment.........THE SHEER VALUE AND POWER of what the patents are supposed to and alleged to be... The world doesnt work that way. Something much smaller, maybe, but not what vplm has been and then patents been cracked up to be..........which is not only fsr behind mere millions and billions and multi billions but easily into the realm of upwards of trillions ALL TOLD AND ALL CONSIDERED (which I have)......but the massive power of owning the keys to the biggest and most hi tech and most used forms of communication there is not ever was.
No one ever replies to or answers to that because it's too correct and acknowledge it, makes moot of all else. So it's majorly inconvenient to acknowledge this truth. Same reason why no one has ever chosen to answer the simple question of whether or not they would buy the company if they had the money. They know they cannot answer yes, because that brings up the question of why no big dogs have or licensed or settled at least. And if they say no, then whatever their logic is for that, they could just apply, conversely, to the big companies.
And this is why I've been able to successfully predict monkey wrenches and delays and years of NUTHIN DOIN. This is why I can laugh in the face of a PR or a too mouth IR guy, when they have the utter nerve to report there is an agreement. That's why I was able to say in the 1st couple minutes of the so called Dr Amelio "offer".....that something was wrong and I knew it.........and maternity came out and I posted the post from someone else that revealed the fact that emu and Dr Gil were working in cahoots to drum up some shares action. There never was any real offer. It was a front. They were overheard planning it and a month or 2 later, Shazam! Vplm has literally been pulling crap like that for years since at least 2010 or 11.
Been hearing that pronouncement for as long as vplm has been bullshitting ppl. Doesn't happen. Sec is as on the take as vplm. They don't care about vplm outside of the likely source of kickbacks in my humble opinion. No proof, just common sense, logic, xot connecting. The sec has already looked heavily at vplm when they were doing their Scottsdale investigation where vplm was 1 of 4 companies whose funds were being majorly diverted offshore. there's way too many lies and false promises they've illegally made to shareholders and peeps at large, to have been found not doing any wrong, in my opinion. Google sec corruption if you have about a year of spare time to read what about there. And no, same as USPTO and PTAB, not saying every person in those groups is corrupt. But there is a cult of personality that exists. Same as "patience is a virtue" and "best position ever", sec shutdown is a tired and worn out idea.
You ARE engaging with me. It's you who keeps throwing negativity my way and sometimes I respond. I made a mistake before, thinking you replied to me but you often do and often have and it ALWAYS been childish negativity. As to "offer to help".....that was an indirect and nice way of me characterizing the stuff you sling. Honestly. I mean if you read my stuff and walk away with actually surmising that I actually, lolol, think you.....are trying to help me.....or for that matter, anyone or any reply I read from you, well, all I can say is see the part about "poor character judgement". If there are any more posts directed to me, I may or may not, most likely not, respond and beyond that, I'm done attempting to show you what's what. Lost cause, like vplm.
overandout
I just checked.....glad that's done. It's one thing to be negative about a company. Such could be done just for the sake of itself or as in my case completely genuine and believe every word I say, and either way, this IS the place to do so, contrary to some opinions.....but constantly attacking others for their opinions about a company, this is NOT the place for and it speaks for itself.
With all due respect.........later.
I'm not worried about anything nor did I say or imply I was. In fact, if you had paid attention to what was said and in regard to the phrase "make smart decisions", it often sounds as though you are really talking to yourself rather then a reply. I just got done telling you how I jumped into stock market "both OTC and big board) cold, meaning I knew zero about, above and beyond it's a place to gamble, buy, sell, and more importantly, that it was probably a major once in a lifetime kind of opportunity, in 2008/9. So I did and as I already told you, I have never once since then, breached into the red. And that includes a mixture of OTC pennystocks and some big board stocks. Armed with only common sense, I did well and then basically quit, especially from buying any more vplm which I vowed not to after figuring out how to regain all my losses (on paper only) with them and lots of profit and keeping alot of shares. The only reason I'm repeating this is because you open post with "make smart decisions", totally ignoring what you were just told. Big duh that. And to add to the duh, you say you think my posts are full of "worry". Not only are they not since I know the basis for my posts, but I can't think of single one that so much as touches on or implies any sort of worry. I can't even think of one that could be mistakenly construed as such. All of my posts, when I'm not just having fun, and am making a serious point about something, exude the exact opposite of worry. I mean if you ever bothered to read and comprehend any of them, I have explained many times that I quit buying vplm stocks long ago but am also very long and I've said it's 50 cents or nothing and that I've already written off, mentally, this probable toilet paper substitute. The entertainment alone is worth the cost except there actually IS no cost since I locked into the black as long as I stick to my pledge to never buy vplm again and I have stuck to it for I forget how long it is at this point but must be at least 8 yrs or more. So while it would be nice to be able to get that 50 cents, I've given up on that idea long ago and don't expect it. I'd rather burn them than take 3 cents or the usual pps. It's 'ce cera cera' as far as I'm concerned. In other words (since you're character judgement challenged, at least in my case), there exists zero "worry". Where ever you got such a silly, backwards notion, consider yourself corrected. If not, good luck and I'll not engage such thinly sliced baloney forthwith so don't waste your time (he will..). Me done.
And every opinion, fact, theory, l have that's negative on vplm is you bet your ass bona fide (little legal lingo there..). No hidden agendas for me. Straight from the hip kiddo.
What me worry?
bahaha
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Strummed like a banjo and played like a fiddle, looks like we're gonna get very very little.
So how can vplm announce a settlement been reached........and then, the bs "45 days" thingy (the usual stringalong...).......and then we're told by the wisemen it'll have to be in an 8k or the next (now current) quarterly........so I read and read and read and finally, at the end, it said "there's been NO MATERIAL EVENTS" to report....WTF? Can someone explain to me how they can get away with that? I mean ok, I know they've been doing the same thing for over 10 years.....hell, I've reported it here numerous times.....but STILL......if this doesn't go along way to demonstrate that the sec is also on the take.....I don't know what does.
Yes/no/maybe?
andthewisemensayvplmdoesntpump&dumphahahahahahahaha
....and sorry, I see I mistakenly thought your post was addressed to mine, being the one previous to you, but let's be honest, you were getting around to it anyway, lolol
Apparently you've never grasped the concept of worrying about yourself and what YOU do......as opposed to your solid grip on the concept of telling other what they should do and/or how to make their own decisions... For someone who has never once been in the red since deciding to jump in cold and clueless, other than recognizing the rare opportunity of the 2008 crash, I'll pat myself on the back and stick to my philosophy of never advising anyone to buy, sell or otherwise, as I feel that's their lone decision to make in the stock market (or whatever one may want to call the OTC, which is not a true market).
That said, it was just obligatory rhetoric on my part, as the big bet is that you'll continue to tell others what they should do or not do. Whatever flicks your bic...
BUT THANKS FOR YOU OFFER OF HELP! (for fear of sounding ungrateful), lol
I was just about to ask for your help in understanding the 10Q. Much of them I don't really understand. Now, I thought someone (or maybe more than one) here had said that details of the "alleged settlement" with Amazon would have to be reported in this latest 10Q (in lieu of any recent 8k which I saw none). I tried but I couldn't find a single mention of any settlement. In fact what I did find was this:
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Legal Proceedings. PART IIāOTHER INFORMATION OTHER than noted below, there have been no material developments during the current quarter
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for our legal proceedings that were disclosed in our registration statement on Form 10 filed on April 22, 2016. For a full disclosure of legal proceedings, please reference our Form 10 registration or Note 12 of the Financial Statements contained in this report. Patent Litigation The Company is party to patent litigation cases as follows:
On June 6, 2023, the parties stipulated to the dismissal of the case. On June 7, 2023, the court dismissed the case. 3. VoIP-Pal.com Inc. v. Amazon.com, Inc. et al. Case No. 6-20-cv-00272 in the U.S. District Court, Western District of Texas. In April 2020, the Company filed a lawsuit in the United States District Court, Western District of Texas, against Amazon.com, Inc. and certain related entities, alleging infringement of U.S. Patent No. 10,218,606. The case is pending.
So what does this mean......does it mean the alleged settlement is just one more in a loooooooooong line of bullshit statements by vplm and inYA?.........or do I just not get how it works regards the alleged mirage (settlement)?
Thanx
$21+ million loss for last quarter. Deficit close to $100 million....Alrighty then...
Vplm an EGC (emerging growth company) Really?? Hmmmmm...... 23 yrs?