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I am not in disagreement with your comments.
Quote: Something else that was repeated numerous times was this technology wouldn't work in salt water. That was said for a long time also. Jmo
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Yes, I recall making that statement but that was in specific reference to the analytical process of determining ferrous // non-ferrous targets and their calculated depths under the sea floor. I have not seen evidence that 'Dolores' was or is able to do that, and I most certainly haven't seen any like evidence that the Tinkerbell does.
Quote: Copy Cat, Really?
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Yes, really. Is anyone to believe that this Jumping Manta outfit nor anyone else associated, didn't know anything about the "Dolores" vehicle? Just one big sudden surprise, right? Now your implying 'our's is prettier than theirs. Are you kidding. Do you know who these people are? Do you know who Gary Randolph is? These are real pro. treasure hunter / treasure finders. If you want to know what's going on with the Fisher people and 'Dolores', just give them a call. Why ask me. I didn't even know about the vehicle. How can you continue to defend a zero success company now dlly dolling around with a tinker-toy that's found nothing and possibly doesn't even do anything its claimed to do?
In all fairness, I'd have to say the 'Dolores' has its limitations just as the 'SeaSearcher' would (if it works). The tending vessel must be anchored. Its progress is slow and neither of them can compare to a fast moving remote sensing longitudinal transit survey. Excellent for analytical work within a wreck site parameter and following and determining scatter trails as well as site mapping / mosaic production.
I'm beginning to see the signs of 'copy-catting' here.
Further comparisons of interest when comparing to the SFRX Tinkerbell;
I've done further reading on the Mel Fisher 'Dolores' (named as a tribute to Fisher's wife Dolores). It has come along way since even this video was made. You compare this to the SFRX SeaSearcher which now looks like a toy bought off the shelf once at ToysAreUs. Just for the record, its personally embarrassing to me that I didn't even know about this. In my opinion, its rather shameful that SFRX stockholders were led to believe Tinkerbell was something new, especially in view of the fact there's no evidence it even does anything.
This has honestly rocked me off my feet. I have not been following what the Fisher people have been doing for quite some time. Possibly because I've been spending too much time watching these jokers. Now one can clearly see what a clown town joke this Buck Rogers Sea Mobile is. The Fisher outfit are real pros. with real pro. boats and the works. Thanks for sharing this.
Quote: Give me one good reason why SFRX should share any data or performance with anyone outside the project? The answer is, no responsible respondant is able, and why, because no responsible technology company would never do such a thing. Why is SFRX held to a different standard?
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Your lengthly explanatory post says you are or would be a great company P.R. guy. Excuses for zero success in all aspects of this company. You're right, bottom line is they don't have to show anything. The real factor is success and thats totally lacking. As to credentials, would you please tell me what background any of these people have in ocean technology, ocean sciences, remote sensing surveys and the interpretation of data. Furthermore even knowing anything about shipwrecks at all. An on going clown show.
Quote: What purpose does it serve SFRX to have a meeting with a politician if the SeaSearcher were not capable of doing the things they have stated in their press releases and interviews?
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What difference would it make even if that was President Trump standing there. Up to now its a pretty looking unproven toy. Perhaps you should again read my earlier post relating to performance validation in an actual shipwreck environment consisting of igneous ballast, typically containing magnetite, combinations of ferrous / non-ferrous metals mixed with iron conglomerates, etc. I've actually posted this on several occasions but it goes right over the heads of the naive unknowing which would include the company itself, never having found a shipwreck, nor worked a shipwreck or recovered treasure. Nothing here that impresses me or any other professional with remote sensing survey experience.
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New design?
So there was an old design, eh?
We know about the software, which is the ONLY thing they’ve called proprietary.
Most amusing post.
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As I have asked many times before, where's evidence of a patent or patent pending? Beyond that, where's the evidence that this 'toy' even performs in an actual shipwreck environment, meaning with igneous ballast stones, both ferrous and non-ferrous metals in mixed and conglomerate configurations? Oh, did I forget that these clowns have never found a wreck, worked a wreck or ever recovered anything of any significance in over a decade.
Quote: Definitely not a "software modification" as some guessed!
So wrong!
Again!
Good looking machine that's going to make shareholders very happy!
I see why longs are holding out.
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A pretty toy for which there's no evidence it does anything but as someone just posted, it should feed the sheeple for the rest of 2020.
Quote: Sorry, If it was not found by a magnetometer, it isn't there. Don't go trying to sell us on phony newfangled gizmos. BTW, Shift, thanks for the always enlightening analysis.
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Don't be sorry. I don't know what your even talking about. I never said this particular find was made with a magnetometer. If anyone is trying to sell you on a 'newfangled gismo' it would be SFRX. Go back and read my post again and while you're at it read the actual post which shows a professional entity doing professional work. Thats all.
Request you post copy of where I said this was found with a magnetometer.
A question. Has SFRX, for the sake of encouragement and validation, shown stockholders any imagery like this? After all, allot of cheerleader talk but never proof of anything positive.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-53183454
Spoke to Melbourne contact. Sea conditions very workable. Forget about such a ridiculous question of where's the shipwreck site. Rather how many tons of treasure his Tinkerbell pin-pointed and analyzed?
Must be phenomenal.
Just an example. Real technology. Real professionals.
https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-essex-53183454
Teledyne Marine is an accomplished name in oceanographic technology. All one has to read is Sea Technology and come to realize the real professional companies that are out there.The sheeple don't even know this but believe this SeaSearcher nonsense is the real deal.
Quote: The era of REAL treasure finds it about to break out
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The gonna be, wanna be team of amateurs. Why do you want to deny credit to some of the greats in the treasure hunting world like Mel Fisher of 1622 Atocha fame, Burt Webber of 1641 Concepcion fame or Bob Marx of 1656 Maravillas fame? (All found with the magnetometer by the way) These were real treasure finders, not part of a laughing stock clown show.
Quote: You know what I don't know anything about? Buggy whips and spittoons. Very uninformed on those antiquated devices.
Times have changed. The era of REAL treasure finds it about to break out. You can stick with yesterday's tech, I'm going with the future!
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Oh but I do know. I can clearly tell by your posts. As far as your 'going with the future', its more like going with the looser.
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You and I and actual shareholders understand exactly what is going on.
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No, I don't believe you have a clue when it comes to the treasure hunting side of it.
Quote: What's wrong with next week? Or the week after? It really doesn't matter if you own shares. Throwing stones is risky, what was that company you worked for? Oh yeah that was mex# they were here and gone faster than you can blink! Now there was a terrible stock to own. How much treasure did they find for shareholders. Jmo
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I didn't work for MEXP. I worked for Hispaniola Ventures who got screwed by MEXP (Mark Goldberg). Webber found more shipwrecks (and treasure) in half a year than tis outfit has ever found. On that note this outfit has never found anything worth mentioning..As far as being a terrible stock to own, I would have to agree with you. Goldberg could have never kept a 'hot air balloon' up there this long.
Quote: Looking forward to next week!!
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What was wrong with this week? The conditions were great.
Quote: I am glad i own a crap load of shares!!! JMO
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Just like you said CRAP.
Quote: Agree, looking forward to the rest of this month!! Jmo
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First its a week and now its a month. Why not next season.
Quote: End of the chicken little story. JMO
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No, not the end of the story one bit. SFRX and all the cheerleading team miked the Torres mask (wink, wink) find for all it was worth. You nor anyone else has yet to address company incompetence in properly doing Due Diligence and Vetting on the clown.
Quote: You know, the way a responsible company would handle the situation.
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Oh, a 'responsible company' that hired the fraudster in a bar with out 'responsible' due diligence, vetting.
Says allot.
Quote: When Torres mentioned finding the mask he also stated he was donating it to university or museum? SFRX right off the bat said they didn't find it, Torres had found it on his own time on the beach. End of your theory. I am waiting and watching for actual sfrx information, on any finds.
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The famous SFRX Indiana Jones, Rambo, brilliant scientist, a proven lier and fraud. But now his 'out of-nowhere mask find is creditable. La, la.la, la, la.
I find it most amusing that the SFRX cheerleaders what no comment to;
Is the CEO familiar with the meaning of the words 'Due Diligence' and 'Vetting' ?
A real circus. The CEO meets this clown Torres in a bar and hires him? Unreal. Then out of nowhere comes the Peruvian burial mask, perfect timing. It didn't come out of the ocean, had it been so the State would have been raising hell.
As to Tinkerbell and the Buck Rogers sea mobile, I can't help but believe this jumping Manta outfit, or whatever their name is, saw this guy coming. No one on this team has any proven background in ocean technology, ocean sciences or practical ocean survey experience. So what? The sea state is good, the pretty sport boats are bobbing around out there with Tinkerbell doing its thing on the end of an umbilical cable so has there been any big news treasure announcement. Yes, I know, wait and see.
Quote: Price went UP after he was fired over a year ago. Doubled in fact. Till the CoVid Crash took everything down.
He's still a fraud and I'm sure whatever he's doing now is a fraud.
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Is the CEO familiar with the meaning of the words 'Due Diligence' and 'Vetting' ?
Quote: I guess we will all find out what happens shortly.
I don't mind waiting a few more days.
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Thats the spirit.
Quote: The bar is set. A few days...........and
and we’ll see treasure. That from an insider claiming he’s is buying more.
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I know. He's even investing in cheese.
Ideal sea conditions out there right on through the week-end. That Buck Rogers sea mobile must be out there really doing the boogie with Tinkerbell tinking away. Come Monday what will the excuses be for no shipwreck, no treasure?
AMZ552-022030-
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm-
928 AM EDT Thu Jul 2 2020
THIS AFTERNOON
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots increasing to
10 to 15 knots in the afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet with a dominant
period 9 seconds. A moderate chop on the intracoastal waters.
Chance of offshore moving showers and thunderstorms in the
afternoon.
TONIGHT
West winds 10 to 15 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet with a
dominant period 9 seconds. A light chop on the intracoastal
waters.
FRIDAY
Southwest winds 10 to 15 knots becoming south 5 to
10 knots in the afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a dominant
period 9 seconds. A moderate chop on the intracoastal waters.
Slight chance of showers and thunderstorms in the morning, then
showers and thunderstorms likely in the afternoon.
FRIDAY NIGHT
West winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet.
Mostly smooth on the intracoastal waters. Chance of showers and
thunderstorms in the evening, then slight chance of showers and
thunderstorms after midnight.
SATURDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south 5 knots
in the afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet. A light chop on the
intracoastal waters. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
SATURDAY NIGHT
South winds 5 knots becoming southwest 5 to
10 knots after midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet. Chance of showers and
thunderstorms.
SUNDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south in the
afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Showers and thunderstorms likely.
SUNDAY NIGHT
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet.
Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
MONDAY
South winds 10 knots. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Showers and
thunderstorms likely.
Quote: We will see who the fools and sheep are "in the next few days".
The SeaSearcher rally has already made my share increase in value 10 times over and the REAL run hasn't even started yet.
Don't fill up on popcorn... I have the grill warming up for your crow.
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Yes we will see indeed. I predict the days will turn into weeks, then months and on.
This company hasn't produced a thing except 'hot air balloon' profits so good for you.
As to the crow, in all the years of unsuccessful waiting, the bird's probably on the endangered species list.
You know the old saying, 'fools rush in where angel's fear to tread'
I just love the new sophisticated wording 'metal discriminator'. Its a ferrous/non-ferrous analytical detector. They already exist, diver operated. Now this is going to make the shipwreck and treasure that isn't there suddenly appear. Incredible, but the sheeple just suck it up. Yes, me too, I'm grabbing more pop-corn.
Quote: It really doesn't matter if someone doesn't own shares, what sfrx is doing. In my opinion. As an actual shareholders I'm looking forward to what they do and may find. Those dang trees! They keep getting in the way of some people! Jmo
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Oh but it does matter, shareholder or not. Although I'm not a shareholder, I undoubtedly have more treasure hunting experience than most posting here. Naive investors may well appreciate my observations and comments on a zero success laughingstock company. From my perspective I see things quite differently and there are no trees in the way.
Quote: Over the past few weeks, the SeaSearcher team has been hard at work in the ocean scanning and qualifying the metal discriminator. The plan is to complete tests without a diver escorting the SeaSearcher and go operational within the next few days.
Scanning with a diver escorting Tinkerbell 2.0.
Now that’s funny.
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What a joke. They're milking that cannon (that Heartland found over a decade ago) for all its worth. Oh my, the 'archaeologists are doing a sketch for all the sheeple to see. They had years to do that but suddenly now its all important. I note in the photos the diver pictured is using the good old reliable ferrous/non-ferrous metal detector. I thought Tinkerbell was suppose to do that? As a professional who's been on quite a number of serious shipwreck surveys and salvage operations, the boats pictured are candy-ass sport boats but they look good. Great for water skiing and sport diving. Quite a clown show.
Sea conditions are workable and progressively get better into the week-end. The Buck Rogers sea mobile should be out there with Tinkerbell tinking along finding those billions in treasure. I can make a forecast right now. No wreck, no treasure and on going excuses throughout the remainder of the season. Thats my take. The clock's ticking and truly time will tell. Better than buying tickets to a circus.
MZ552-301430-
Volusia-Brevard County Line to Sebastian Inlet 0-20 nm-
328 AM EDT Tue Jun 30 2020
TODAY
West winds 5 to 10 knots becoming southeast in the
afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a dominant period 10 seconds. A
light chop on the intracoastal waters. Isolated showers and
thunderstorms in the afternoon.
TONIGHT
Southwest winds 10 to 15 knots becoming west after
midnight. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a dominant period 9 seconds. A
light chop on the intracoastal waters. Isolated showers and
thunderstorms in the evening.
WEDNESDAY
West winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south in the
afternoon. Seas 2 to 3 feet with a dominant period 9 seconds. A
light chop on the intracoastal waters. Chance of showers and
thunderstorms.
WEDNESDAY NIGHT
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 2 feet.
Mostly smooth on the intracoastal waters. Slight chance of
showers and thunderstorms.
THURSDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south in the
afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet. A light chop on the intracoastal
waters. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
THURSDAY NIGHT
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots. Seas 1 to
2 feet. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
FRIDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south in the
afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
FRIDAY NIGHT
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming west after
midnight. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Chance of showers and thunderstorms.
SATURDAY
Southwest winds 5 to 10 knots becoming south in the
afternoon. Seas 1 to 2 feet. Showers and thunderstorms likely.
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Goldenboy17 Monday, 06/29/20 05:34:25 PM
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Post # of 61796
They described its speed? Do you know how long it will take for it to scan a site?
Are you saying there are no existing known wreck sites that only need to be explored or, in this case, scanned?
"Professional"
Okay.
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They don't have to describe its speed. I know very well that umbilical connected toy can't perform accurate longitudinal transit line surveys at six knots. A site scanner, not a practical surveyor for discovering shipwrecks. No proof disclosed to date that the thing even works.
The word 'professional' ? I certainly hope your not applying that word to SFRX. Professional at what? Near fifteen years shoving money down a rat hole? Can't forget about the 'hot air balloon' profiteers who have done ok.
Quote: And then the next site, and the next and the next...
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I seriously doubt it will find anything on the first site which in all probability isn't even a 'site', and that's even if the toy even works.
When you say 'and the next site, and the next and'..... What are you thinking, that shipwrecks are just lined up and waiting for this clown show to find them. By description its not even a fast moving survey tool but rather a site analysis/assessment application if the toy even works - like said.
Why do you keep saying four or five BILLION dollars worth of treasure. Is that something the CEO told you? Here again I post the manifest below which at best today would probably come to maybe 15 million dollars. Another thing. 80 chests. Where did that horse crap come from?
The patache Nuestra Señora de la Concepción, San José y San Francisco is one of the missing 1715 shipwrecks awaiting discovery. The Concepción struck the south side of Cape Canaveral and sank. Seven survivors floated on a hatch cover for three days as the currents swept them around the shoals and sand bars of the cape, where they landed on beach and walked to St. Augustine. Treasure hunters have been looking for the Concepcíon for years without success.
Patache, Nuestra Señora de la Concepción, San José y San Francisco: 265-tons, armed with thirty-two iron cannons, Master Pablo Soliac, owner Don Antonio Echeverz went to Havana where she loaded 3,000 pesos in gold doubloons, four gold bars valued at 5,703 pesos, 15 serons of cocoa, one chest of vanilla, 15 3/4 tons of brazilwood, 1,440 cured half-hides and a large quantity of tobacco.
The 3,000 pesos in gold doubloons is not individual coins but peso value.
Quote: In my opinion your being bent, or swayed to think like some folks that don't own any shares. The sky isn't falling. JMO
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Being bent or swayed. Really? I would say the man has allot more common sense than most.
Quote: Spain has never had a partner that did not want to leave Spain holding the empty bag. It is no longer bad actors, but a responsible company should SFRX find a wreck.....
BTW, I still believe that the cannons were salvaged for WWII.
I am not up for a debate on the cannons. It is my opinion based on real conversations.
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Name me 'partners' Spain ever had please.
Through my wreck diving experience I know quite a lot about cannons lying in and about shipwrecks. Thirty two cannons scattered about lying in more or less 40 feet of poor visibility waters and sunken down into the mud and sand were not salvaged. Yes, easy access cannons in shallow water were salvaged from wreck sites during WWII for scrap value but many sites in shallower and clear water were left remaining. That applies to quite a number of the 1715 fleet wrecks as well as 1733 fleet wrecks in the Florida Keys. I don't blame you for not being up to debate as I seriously doubt the 1715 shipwreck cannons were salvaged. That's an easy excuse given for the fact that there are no cannons in the SFRX Melbourne areas or they would have easily been detected during the magnetometer surveys. The probability of the shipwreck even being there are nil. Flotsam yes, shipwreck no.