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If people would stop trying to sell at the bid and bring there ask up we would fly. The time is now. The O/S is maxed out so there really is not anything from stopping us from moving up fast is people start buying again on the ask. It looks like alot of people are trying to get cheap shares just to make a fast buck then dump them. What are the people waiting for so they can bring the O/S up another 2 billion before they start buying again.
Yes At least we have some volume and it will get better in time. I think we will move good soon. I hope this for all of us. Good luck
At least were held the 4s all day today. Day is not over yet but if we close in the 4s maybe we can move up in the morning. I think now there is alot of people starting to watch and see how things are working out. Plus we still have alot of people still trying to get the 3s. aThey may want this to go but all the people are doing buy trying to get the 3 is holding it down.
I am sorry not 92 million bat 102 million shares at .0001 so that is alittle over 10.000 dollars. I don't think every one is selling or trying to. I think it is the MMs but not sure.
I am showing on my account only alittle over 10.000 dollars. there is 92 million shares on the ask.
I see we are 25 now on the brakeout board. I wonder if something is starting to happen. I am not sure just lerning.
I also see it on this board when I open nwmt up. It would be nice to see the 5s and 6s again then maybe we will start moving up from there. Just to many people trying to move on. I will be here in the end but alot of people are moving on.
Can someone give me a little help? If the O/S is maxed out why does it say outstanding shares at 1.89 billion? I see it in here and alos on my scottrade account.
If only these people that want to sell just made there ask price higher then 4s it would have to go up. Alot of people just will not move there ask price and I am looking at 32 million on the ask. We have not had that type of volume this week at all I don't think.
I agree this is good news but after they did there R/S then dumped almost 2 billion shares back on the market I would say they pushed alot of people away. I am in here long and I have been here for maybe 6 months now just to watch it go back down. If they came back with a buy back on the share this would move fast. It is not easy to repair the bad they did. And if they were on time with the webcast like they said I really don,t think we would have been down this low. I hope we fly but it just does not look like we will have any volume. If we did have volume this would move higher. Maybe we will get lucky. Good luck to everyone.
I agree with you but these people are just trying to flip for a fast buck. I am in here untell this moves higher. To many people want in at 3 and the other people just want a fast profit or they are worryed.
This does sound good. I am long here and plan on riding it out. It would be nice to see alot of volume because it would make us move up from where we are. With the right news we will fly. Good luck.
Yes I agree with you all the way. But the problem is if they start doing more then we would start moving. Everything falls on what they do. This steve said more up dates but when. who knows? All we can do is guess. I am sure we all would like to see more PRs. And I think this tiing with penson or what ever there name is, I would say it is also making things had for people buying stock with them.
I an a few others told people about this trading proble and I will say it again. Move your stock to Scottrade. Or at least tell them your now happy and you want to move over to scottrade then see what they say.
I think the reason he told me that was he was not thinking in the term of the stock at the time. He was thinking about where the money wold be coming in to help with the things he or they have planed in the future for the company.And to do this he needed investors into the company to make things start going. Also he does not want to R/S the stock so he does not upset the investors. Know mattre how anyone looks at it what a R/S does to a company is make it look bad, and I think he wants to look good not bad so he wants to stay away from the R/S as much as he can.Also he if did do a R/S hthat really is not that much money at all. 1 billion shares at .0001 is only 100.000 dollars and I would say he is looking for alot more then that for what he or they are doing. I also think if they strart doing more PRs and get people talking about this will will start moving. I would love to see it start moving. I am getting sick of just sitting here but I guess that is just how it works. Hang in there it is coming just alittle longer then we thought.
sorry I ment 2 billion shares.
There could be alot of things going on right now. There is alot starting to happen with the sec starting to do things for the small guys like us. I sent a emmail to the company asking them how they are doing over 100 million in business and you only made 1 million in profit. I asked them how that could be. Are you changing the books to try and cover things. I ran a business for years and no one is only going to make less then 1 % of profit. I also asked them how can they go ahead and do a 1 to 200 R/S then right after that print another 200 billion shares on the market. In the email I told them I would be looking into it more to see what is really going on.
I was going to say somethinga few hours ago to you about this but I had to take off on some business. Anyways I see what your saying but I really don't think that will ever happen. I am sure he has to know what AIA can really do in money and he may noeed money now but he has to no there is alot more in AIA then what most people will pay. The best thing for him would be to hold onto it and just sell parts of it. He may not have full control but he does have some and that is the main thing. I am sure he knows what kind of money this would bring in. This man has worked to had to sell out cheap. I think when they are really they will make to move.Just from talking to him the other day told me alot. He made it very clear that would not be a R/S so that may happen in time but we will move good before that happens.
I would say you are right in alot of ways but just from what happened to those 17 companys the other day. I think it looks like they are starting to hammer down.I also would say they know what is going on with these but was not puched into doing something. It looks like that is starting to change now. From the PR sec put out it sounds like they have a team now just for these things and I think they are starting to do something about the penny stocks. If yo look at the webcast they did not pad it like the other ones were padded to make it like great but this time it was plain and stright no padding. I hope this makes sence to you what I am saying.
who ever deleted that for me thanks I was looking at trying to delete myself but I was having a hard time finding the spot to delete it. Thank you again.
sorry aboout that I was thinking about a different stock I will try and delete it. anyways The last volume we had I would say the company did that to buy back shares. The first 43 million looked just like the company buying back All those 9 million blocks of buys told me that was the company buying back shares to do a buyback. They did not say it but that was just what it looked like to me. I think they really are trying hard to make this a good shock for us investors and I think they want this to fly and grow. When you see alot of 9 million blocks being sale or buys that tells me the company is ether dumping or buying.
What your saying is right. I would say that is the one that is printing shares to dump on the market. The investors may also be doing it but that is because of what the company is doing. Like I said before over 100 million in sales and they only have 1 million in profit. That does not sound right at all. I think with what the sec is now really starting to do everything will come out why this is like that. I am learning about stocks now but I do no business very well and I have ran more then one company. Know one is going to work with that much sales and only make 1 million a year in sales. If you look at the first webcasts everything was so great they were saying and now in this last webcast they were very puched at saying anything that would go with the other webcashs. They are now starting to watch there backs at what they are saying. I am sure they new more about this thing that happened yesterday then we did. But I am also sure that if SEC is starting to make head way for us small investors they will see this right off.There has to be alot more about the sales and the profit then what they are saying. Would you run a company and only make !% and think you are on the move up? You can make more then that from that type off business with the government. Do you understand what I am saying about all this? I may not be able to post again untell the morning but I will do my best to explain in I can post.
On my scottrade account I am looking at 48 million shares on the ask at 1s. I just don't see wehy these people don't charge there orders to at least 2s People want this to go up but they want to sell at 1s just shows me worryed money. Plus I think the MMs may have alot to do with it. Am I right?
Yes your right we will be off and on for a little time but it will move in the end.I will even buy more shares this week end because I am sure we will move.
Read the post just before your post. What happened yesterday is really just the start and the sec is starting to work harder at looking out for the small investor. I am sure these companys know tnow they are really being watched and it is a metter of time for them to catch up with these people. I really don't care what other people are trying to say in here because I know business and one thing that really will opem peoples eyes is sales at over 100 million days and only 1 million in profit. They know that they are now being watched and it is a matter of time so they will change the things they are doing. I would also say there really was not alot said yesterday because before they were pumping it and now they are worryed because of what happened yesterday. This maybe just how I see it but you or anyone on this board tell me who is going to do that much in sales and only make 1% or less. No way that is going to happen or why even stay open.Just like the deal that was going through on monday. Not much was said in that matter.
I see what your saying but now the sec is starting to work harder for us penny guys and maybe this will start to help us more. I guess they were getting to many emails about it.
Your right for 100 million but I thought it was 118 million. That would make it under 1% but any ways you can make more from CDs by just sitting there. Any ways would you run a company if you only made 1% a year? That just not make any sence. I hope you understand where I am coming from. Also T they did the 200-1 R/S just to turn around and print more shares to dump on the market. I am not a basher. I am in this long like alot of people. If someone steals from you don't you want there delt with?
read what I just sent out and you will see there is alot more happening then what they say. There is no way a company is going to do over 100 million and only make 1 million. That is not even 1% read this post close.http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SEC-suspends-trading-of-17-apf-3698551032.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=6&asset=&ccode= There is alot more going on with this. They do a 200 to 1 R/S and then go right back and dump another 160 billion shares on the market. I sendt them a email asking them about the R/S and the 160 billion shares after I also added that link I am sending you to it. Let them think for a few days.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SEC-suspends-trading-of-17-apf-3698551032.html?x=0&sec=topStories&pos=6&asset=&ccode=
Read this close. They are starting to really watch what is happening and all any one has to do is bring have them start looking at this more. It does not come out right and I konw this would make them think more. They know we investors are being burned and they are now watching it more. I can walk away now and not lose but there is alot of people in here that are being burned bad.
You know I am getting sick of playing these games and the more I think about it the more it does not make any sence how they can only do 1 million in profit a year. Just like I said that is not even 1% and that is not going to happen. The more I think about it the more they someone needs to look into this more because we are starting to get burned. If they start looking into this more alot more my come out. SEC is now starting to work harder for us penny guys. They have one team now working on these things so this could start alot of probelms with them if they are burning us.There is alot more going on with them and I am not going to get burned again. And here they do a r/s then right after that dump amost 2 billion shares back on the market. So all they did was steal from us.
I really think the company started to volume yesterday to get it going. Like I said a few posts back those 9 million blocks that were all buys looked just like the company or someone close doing that to make it move. It will move again. It may take a day or 2 but it will start again. I feel like you do, but this stcok is all about timing for it to move.
Why is people so dump all they have to do is bring there ask up to 2s or 3 and it would have to start moving. Unless the mms try to keep it down.
There is 144 million share on the 3s and if this was so bad then why even mess with a stock that is bad. People keep trying to paint it back to the 3s to get in. I see the game going on when I look at the trades and all they are trying to do is get it down as low as they can to get in cheap. Plus I also think there is more going on then what every one thinks. Time will tell.
Your right, I feel the same way as you do. I this he wants this way up there, and the people worryed are going to be upset end the end because they lost out. It is all about timing in here and the timing just is not right for them to move. Bad timing can close the dooors on companys and I think he has been there before and does not want to go there again. They are working hard right now and he made it very clear to me yesterday there will not be any R/S that tells me alot. They are the ones in the driver seat and people just need to set back and go for the ride on this one. But these 1s in here does not make seens. like I said most people that did get in new it may take alittle time for things to come into place so there is more behind all these 1 out there.
I only have about 9 million share right now so I am thinking of buying maybe another 10 million shares. I just have to make sure my money is right before I jump in for more. I am sure we will move I just am not sure when. I take alot of chances in life and sometimes it pays off. Time will tell but I really think they want this to fly so they are working on bettering thinks for all of us.
One thing I do have to say is it is all about timing in this game. If the timing is right this will fly. The commpany is trying to make things move. As I see it, it may not be as fast as alot of people want but all we have to do is brake these D ones and we will start moving up. The ones are holding alot of us down because alot of people give up hope so they turn around and sell off what they have. I got in at 1s and I am in here to make money so I am not going to sell at ones. I will hold out long. You really can't go any lower unless the company closes the doors. I also don't think it is alot of people dumping for 1s If you think about it the MMs hoad to get alot of these share cheap and they are also selling. The think I don't understand is at the end of the door the ask goes back up to 2s then when the market opens it goes right to 1s and I really don't think there is that many people in here selling at 1s This is just my thoughts.
I am not sure when it will happen again but witch how the trades go when we have alot of volume and you will see it also. This is just a guess on my part but like I said I seen it happen when a company was dumping and this was the same way. The only thing different was they were buys not sells. If I was the ceo and trying to bring the stock up I would get it as cheap as I can. We already know they need more cash and to bring the OS down so why not do it when the stock is cheap. This is jus a guess but that it what I am thinking.
Off and on I the alot. But they always shart at the begaining of the day and it is when we have alot of volume going on at the begaing of the day.
I don't think so but I am not sure. Why what they really have to say anything? To many ways to do it. It would be good to let the share holders no because that just gives us more gas for the fire. But I am not sure they would have to let any one know. I will look into it and see what I can come up with. I seen how other companys did it when the were dumping stock and it looked just like that. But these were buys and not sells.
You know what I am thinking is there was a few people in here talking about buy backs and I looked at the first 43 million trades yesterday at the begaining of the day that is what it looked like to me. All those 9 million blocks were all done in a patttern. And they all came together. That may not be right but to me they looked to much like a pannern on the 9 and 3 million blocks. Almost all were 9 million blocks almost together.