Sure is. I was never into shooting, but dealing with our trolls here is most always like shooting flucks. Could never shoot a duck.

dbergh, I didn't resist, Czolgosz did it in the name of anarchism. Not atheism. - Assassination of William McKinley

William McKinley, the 25th president of the United States, was shot on the grounds of the Pan-American Exposition in the Temple of Music in Buffalo, New York, on September 6, 1901, six months into his second term. He was shaking hands with the public when an anarchist, Leon Czolgosz, shot him twice in the abdomen. McKinley died on September 14 of gangrene caused by the wounds. He was the third American president to be assassinated, following Abraham Lincoln in 1865 and James A. Garfield in 1881.

McKinley enjoyed meeting the public and was reluctant to accept the security available to his office. Secretary to the President George B. Cortelyou feared that an assassination attempt would take place during a visit to the Temple of Music and took it off the schedule twice, but McKinley restored it each time.

Czolgosz had lost his job during the economic Panic of 1893 and turned to anarchism, a political philosophy adhered to by recent assassins of foreign leaders. He regarded McKinley as a symbol of oppression and was convinced that it was his duty as an anarchist to kill him. He was unable to get near the president during an earlier visit, but he shot him twice as McKinley reached to shake his hand in the reception line at the temple. One bullet grazed McKinley; the other entered his abdomen and was never found.

McKinley initially appeared to be recovering, but his conditions deteriorated on September 13 as his wounds became gangrenous. He died at 2:15 am on September 14 and was succeeded by his vice president, Theodore Roosevelt. Czolgosz was sentenced to death and executed in the electric chair, and Congress passed legislation to officially charge the Secret Service with the responsibility for protecting the president.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assassination_of_William_McKinley

You may be making some progress, still, obviously, you have to dig deeper.

dbergh, Without wasting time on checking it all out, at least you have established the fact you are capable of doing some research yourself.

Right or wrong and however sliced, "Well done, son." This place just may be doing you some good after all.

Speaking of cerebral cortices gone south - ‘Mentally disabled’ Trump insults Kamala Harris and Joe Biden

news.com.au

33,068 views Sep 29, 2024

Donald Trump has called his election opponent, Kamala Harris, “mentally disabled” in the latest escalation of his rhetoric against her.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MggKaxejK80

Lime Time, You and your fellow nitwits continue to prove our points. I said something
about lazy false generalizations and what to you do but come up with more ..

"fuagf, you run a board that is mostly open to discussion, but favors people who are completely drugged up on government meds and government cheese.
I choose to work hard for things that I own and don't expect government to take care of me.
You seem badly confused at how some people think logically and scientifically modern day. I would wish that you could broden you spectrum and see all sides to an issue.
You are sickly confused and very badly offended when someone with an open mind comes Here and says what they do.
I'd welcome any conversation, but you dont."

You know nothing about people here and how hard they have worked. You know you don't know, yet you say what you said. Trump just makes things like that up too. You have no basis for saying what you said, yet you say it because it helps you to feel good.

Your posts indicate clearly who is confused and who makes stuff up, it sure as fuck is not me.

PS: Tell us about America's welfare states, those that take more from government than they
give to government. Remind us again what political color most all, if not all, of them are.

'There are some things you should not eat anymore.'

There are some people you should never vote for again.

Lime Time, We extend courtesies, you shit on our carpets. You don't get kudos when you serve untruths.

Your generalizations are not only false, they are worse than lazy.

"They refuse to see or even acknowledge the opposing argument here. It's the most closed minded people on the entire planet. There is no reason or logic allowed. It's stupid to even try to show these people facts. They disregard everything that doesn't align with their agenda and they black out sources that are against theirs. To fully understand anything, you need to study the entire spectrum to any topic of interest. Im intrigued to understand why that doesnt happen here. Good Luck."
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It's like you people operate out of a cookie cutter factory. You deserve rhubarbs you get rhubarbs. You deserve to be scorned.

It's dumb. You are right, to support such a moron, you must be...

What you say, feels right "I never thought of that, but you're right! He could have
thought of Norma while planning his own acceptance by the adoring crowd.
It may never have occurred to him that poor Norma was mad. Nor that he is."

On watching your video of her at top of stairs and walk down i could only feel Trump. And how about:

SUNSET BOULEVARD | "I Am Big, It's the Pictures That Got Small" Clip | Paramount Movies

"I Am Big..." that's all Donald, again. LOL. i've gotta go watch the movie now.

When you said Sunset Boulevard i was thinking Hawaii Five-O, or something sorta like it. Sunset Boulevard sounds soapy.
That's what i meant when i said i didn't watch much of that stuff. No idea how i've missed it, or forgotten it so badly.

U.S. restarts offensive weapons sales to Saudi Arabia after lengthy ban

"Hassan Nasrallah turned Hezbollah from an Islamist militia into a political force that will outlive him"

Related: LOL, the presentation - Saudi Arabia's Big 'Israel Cannot Exist...'
Threat As USA Woos Salman, Snubs Netanyahu? | Gaza

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The sale of certain American weapons was frozen in 2021 to signal the Biden administration’s disapproval of a Saudi military campaign in Yemen.


American and Saudi Arabian flags fly in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia, before a 2022 visit by President Joe Biden. (Amr Nabil/AP)

By Karen DeYoung
August 9, 2024 at 5:11 p.m. EDT

All links

The Biden administration is lifting its years-long suspension of offensive arms shipments to Saudi Arabia, authorizing an initial shipment of air-to-ground munitions and saying it would consider additional new transfers “on a typical case-by-case basis,” according to senior administration officials.

The sale of certain classes of offensive weapons was frozen in early 2021 to signal administration disapproval of the Saudi war with Iranian-backed Houthis in Yemen and strikes against civilian targets there. Since a United Nations-mediated truce in the spring of 2022, “there has not been a single Saudi airstrike into Yemen and cross-border fire from Yemen into Saudi Arabia has largely stopped,” a senior official said.

“So the Saudis have met their end of the deal, and we are prepared to meet ours, returning these cases to regular order through appropriate congressional notification and consultation,” said the official, one of several who discussed the decision on the condition of anonymity imposed by the White House.

Significant numbers of both Republican and Democratic lawmakers in the past have opposed any change in the suspension policy toward Saudi Arabia, primarily on the basis of domestic human rights abuses .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/middle_east/saudi-critics-g20-summit/2020/11/20/dfdc860c-2a80-11eb-9c21-3cc501d0981f_story.html?itid=lk_inline_manual_9 .. that the administration has also criticized.

Congress can withhold approval of weapons sales, but can only stop any transfer with a veto-proof joint resolution of disapproval. Rep. Joaquin Castro (Tex.), a senior Democrat on the House Foreign Affairs Committee who supported the administration’s initial decision to pause transfer of offensive weapons, said Friday that the Saudis had a “troubling” record on human rights. “I hope to see compelling evidence that Saudi Arabia has changed its conduct,” Castro said.

But relations have grown considerably closer in recent years between the administration and the monarchy in Riyadh, which President Joe Biden called a “pariah” state during his 2020 campaign.

Much of the rapprochement has focused on larger administration goals for the Middle East, including the establishment closer defense ties with Persian Gulf nations to prevent Iranian expansion in the region, to defend Israel against Iran and its regional proxies, and to stem Russian and Chinese influence.

The Iranian threat increased with the beginning of the Israel-Hamas war in Gaza, as the Houthis in Yemen began firing missiles at commercial shipping in the Red Sea, while Hezbollah stepped up its strikes from Lebanon into northern Israel. Both Iranian-supplied and backed groups have said they are acting in support of Hamas.

“Throughout this period, Saudi Arabia has remained a close strategic partner of the United States and we look forward to enhancing that partnership,” the senior official said. “Just this week, the Saudis had a senior delegation in Washington to discuss cooperation in advanced technologies and artificial intelligence. Last week, a senior U.S. interagency delegation visited Jeddah to meet with the Crown Prince and Saudi leaders on regional issues and integrated air and missile defense.”

A senior State Department official also noted “the positive steps that the Saudi Ministry of Defense have taken over the past three years to substantially improve their civilian harm mitigation processes, in part thanks to the work of U.S. trainers and advisers.”

Administration attempts to expand U.S. defense cooperation with the Saudis, which predate the beginning of the war in Gaza, have also been aimed at normalizing relations between Israel and Saudi Arabia .. https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/08/11/us-israel-saudi-arabia-normalization/?itid=lk_inline_manual_20 . The United States has offered to sweeten the deal with expanded arms sales and civil nuclear cooperation.

But early progress toward that end has been stalled as Arab states have called on the administration to do more to protect Palestinian civilians in Gaza from Israeli attacks and to move toward a long-term solution to the Palestinian crisis.

Saudi Arabia, the United Arab Emirates and Jordan aided the United States in helping Israel repel an Iranian attack in April. But with a new Iranian threat looming following the Israeli assassination in Tehran of Hamas leader Ismail Haniyeh on July 31 and Israel’s foot-dragging in attempts to negotiate an end to the Gaza war, it is unclear whether they are willing to do so again.

John Hudson contributed to this report.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/08/09/us-saudi-weapons-sales/

LOL, the presentation - Saudi Arabia's Big 'Israel Cannot Exist...' Threat As USA Woos Salman, Snubs Netanyahu? | Gaza

"This Israel has no future in the Middle East
"“Israel Has To Accept Proposal” Says Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak 14:16""

Hindustan Times

664,991 views May 28, 2024 #mohammedbinsalman #mbs #israel

Saudi Arabia issued a stern warning to Israel amidst the ongoing Rafah operation by the IDF, escalating tensions further. Riyadh intensified pressure on Israel, following the recent order by the International Court of Justice to 'immediately' stop the Rafah offensive. The Saudi Arabian Foreign Minister conveyed these remarks in Brussels on May 26, following reports of the U.S. considering lifting the ban on offensive weapons sales to Saudi Arabia. Concurrently, discussions between America and Saudi Arabia regarding various bilateral deals are underway, forming part of the U.S.'s efforts to normalize ties between Israel and Saudi Arabia. However, experts speculate that the signing of these deals is improbable without a ceasefire in Gaza. Watch the full video for more.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbeGNP4DNwg

It's sorta nuts, isn't it, that there are so many different voting systems in the same country. Isn't it?

catani, Yes, and though it doesn't make any difference now, because Israel does exist and is going to continue to exist (at least for longer than the lifetimes of any reading this), still it is necessary to face the idea that Israel had no right to exist there in the first place. What is the claim: God gave us the land. Well, give us a break, please. Yet that was the basis for the creation of a Jewish country in the middle of Muslim lands. And in some minds for the right to drive all Palestinians from the lands of the so-called God-given lands.

If only Israel could face the fact that, for there to ever be any chance of a lasting peace, God did not give them that land. And that that stance of Israel's must change.

My first thought was newmedman's 'from the river to the sea' which is used by the press to demonize Israel's opponents. And how many understand, as you do, that it was a Zionist call from the start. And still is. And there is the denial of the right of Palestinians to have their own independent state. A promise was made.

So where are we now.

Att: brooklyn13 (you can still read) -- As furious protesters take to the streets, Netanyahu may well have reached his political dead-end
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P - That would be madness in a time of peace. In a time of war — a low-grade three-front war that could become a high-grade three-front war any day — it is insane. Israel is increasingly alone, because what ally would want to partner with that agenda?
P - And that is why I agree with every word that former Prime Minister Ehud Barak wrote in Haaretz .. https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/2024-06-13/ty-article-opinion/.premium/israel-must-oust-its-failed-government-before-it-sinks-into-the-moral-abyss/00000190-1285-d621-abfa-5bb5e9840000 .. last Thursday: Israel faces “the most serious and dangerous crisis in the country’s history. It began on Oct. 7 with the worst failure in Israel’s history. And it continued with a war that, despite the courage and sacrifice of soldiers and officers, appears to be the least successful war in its history, due to the strategic paralysis in the country’s leadership.”
P - Israel, added Barak, a former army chief of staff, is “risking a multifront war that would include Iran and its proxies. And all this is happening while in the background the judicial coup continues, with its goal of establishing a racist, ultranationalist, messianic and benighted religious dictatorship.”
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One other, and how could anyone legitimately argue against it. This Israel. This Israel:

This Israel has no future in the Middle East

"“Israel Has To Accept Proposal” Says Former Israeli Prime Minister Ehud Barak 14:16"
[...]
In truth, I never thought Israel could have much of a future in the Middle East without shedding its colonial regime and embracing normal statehood. For a short while in the early 1990s, it seemed as if Israel was changing direction towards some form of normalcy, albeit dependent on the United States. It engaged the Palestinians and Arab states in the region in a “peace process” that promised mutual existence under favourable American auspices.

But Israel’s colonial nature dominated its behaviour at each and every turn. It wasted countless opportunities to end its occupation and live in peace with its neighbours. To paraphrase Israeli diplomat Abba Eban’s infamous quip, Israel “never missed an opportunity to miss an opportunity”.

Instead of ending its occupation, it doubled down on its colonisation project in the occupied Palestinian territories. It has multiplied the number of illegal Jewish settlements and settlers on stolen Palestinian lands and networked them through special bypass roads and other planning projects, creating a dual system, a superior, dominating one for the Jews and an inferior one for the Palestinians.

As one apartheid was dismantled in South Africa, another was erected in Palestine.

In the absence of peace and in the shadow of colonisation, the country has slid further towards fascism, enshrining Jewish supremacy into its laws and extending it to all of historic Palestine, from the Jordan River to the Mediterranean Sea. In no time, the fanatical and far-right parties gained momentum and took over the reins of power under the opportunistic leadership of Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, undermining Israel’s own institutions, and all chances of peace based on coexistence between two peoples.
[...]
Israel has no good options after its bad war ends. This may be its last chance to pull away from the brink, stop the war, embrace US President Joe Biden’s vision of a two-state solution, impractical as it is today, and accept America’s red lines for Gaza: no to reoccupation, no to ethnic cleansing and no to shrinking its territories. But Netanyahu, along with his fanatic coalition, who’ve long taken America for granted, have once again ignored – read rejected – America’s advice to the detriment of both sides.

Long before the war on Gaza, a leading Israeli journalist, Ari Shavit, predicted the demise of Israel “as we know it”, if it continued on the same destructive path. And last week, Ami Ayalon, a former head of Israel’s Shin Bet secret service, warned .. https://www.arabnews.pk/node/1575796/middle-east .. that the government’s war and territorial expansion will lead to “the end of Israel” as we know it. Both have written books warning Israel about the dark future ahead if it continues its occupation.

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Weird how those things happen. "It's the spirits!" .. "someone is fiddling" .. as some sense of paranoia edges in...

Heh, yep, when he was much younger he probably saw himself as a male star as a Holden. And DeMille, for sure, thought of that just the words to put it as well as you did didn't come quickly enough as your did. That said. lolol, i'm swinging back to Norma now too, after watching your clip.

"Oh, yes, yes, down below they are waiting for the princess." and she walks down.

LOLOL That oozes Trump and his escalator ride.

Ignoring the hyperbole in there, the Pearl Harbor. JFK.. i haven't watched the entire video yet, but the escalator ride and Norm's walk down is something he could very well get off on more than a few time. For sure. He wouldn't have to relate to her going nuts, but i reckon, in that 'here i am' Trump escalator trip he could very well have been relating to Norma's scene in yours. And in watching and recommending the movie, every time he saw Norma's or thought of it he could also be bathing vicariously in it. That star business is Trump. 'They are waiting for me.'



LOLOL Look at him. Love it!

The New York Times Confirms Trump Is a Genius

"Obviously, he's spent way too much time watching The Purge. And he IS stupid. He
isn't knowledgeable about anything. But he has one gift, and it is for self-promotion."

Related: That's insight i didn't have.
[...] Am also guessing Howard Gardner would suggest Trump has his share of 6. Interpersonal Intelligence ..
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He may not be stable, but he has a coherent strategy for harnessing self-promotion for personal gain.


President Donald Trump speaking. | Tasos Katopodis/Getty Images

By John F. Harris
09/29/2020 04:30 AM EDT

Altitude is a column by POLITICO founding editor John Harris,
offering weekly perspective on politics in a moment of radical disruption.

President Donald Trump’s self-appraisal is that he is “a very stable genius,” but now comes The New York Times with new evidence suggesting, as Joe Biden would put it, that this is malarkey.

The Times’ writers themselves, in the introduction to their ground-shaking scoop, say that two decades of Trump tax returns “tell a story fundamentally different than the one he has told the public .. https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/09/27/us/donald-trump-taxes.html?action=click&module=Spotlight&pgtype=Homepage .”

When someone makes a disparaging assertion about Trump, with his long history of thwarting conventional expectations, it is a good rule to ask: Are we sure about that?

As far as Trump’s finances, the Times does indeed demolish the adjective. “Stable” is hardly the right word to describe the reality of hundreds of millions of dollars in loans coming due, a long battle with the IRS over a questionable $72.9 million tax refund, scores of dodgy deductions and dubious consulting arrangements with family members, all woven into a financial structure that revolves around the personal brand of a 74-year-old man with a history of bankruptcies, severed personal relationships and increasingly erratic behavior.

But it is the noun that Trump cares most about. What we learned from Trump’s taxes does suggest he possesses an astonishing gift which could reasonably be called “genius” — if you accept that as a descriptive word rather than a term of praise.

Genius, in this context, means something more than “very smart.” It means an ability to see connections and possibilities in circumstances that even people who are smart in conventional ways do not see. There are some people who possess genius of a certain type in certain arenas who might actually qualify as kind of dumb when it comes to more conventional intelligence of the sort measured in conventional arenas.

VIDEO - Trump reacts to New York Times article on his tax returns

Trump’s genius, as illuminated by the Times, isn’t simply for self-promotion but for harnessing self-promotion to a coherent and comprehensive strategy for personal gain. Profit gets paid out in multiple ways: money, of course, but also reputational currency. The taxes also highlight his ability to fully merge his personal and professional lives, in which houses and jets and hair stylists become business expenses (in some cases suspect ones). It is a simple fact that in this intersection of self-promotion, self-enrichment, and self-protection Trump has a mind that operates at a different level than most, and he has used it to fashion a historic career.

Trump critics were eager to see in the Times report that the Trump reputation is total illusion. It looks more accurate to say it is partial illusion. His taxes confirm that he does not have some kind of Midas touch. Several of his golf courses and other ventures look to be sucking wind financially. But it’s also true that there is real money pumping through the Trump empire, including what the Times described as $425 million from his half-ownership of his reality TV show, “The Apprentice,” as well as “licensing and endorsement deals that flowed from his expanding celebrity.”

The Times story, by reporters Russ Buettner, Susanne Craig and Mike McIntire (and surely backed by a large team of editors and lawyers), was appropriately skeptical in contrasting the Trump myth with the reality embedded in the tax returns. But there was at least a mild tension in the story, amplified by the reaction of Trump critics. The criticism flowed simultaneously in two directions:

— Trump is a tax cheat, using unscrupulous schemes to avoid paying huge sums that the government is fairly owed.

— Trump is a phony, who really is not that great at business after all. His finances, the Times said, are “beset by losses and hundreds of millions of dollars in debt coming due that he has personally guaranteed.” A CNN analysis by Stephen Collison said “Trump’s image is a sham” and that he is “a pitifully inept businessman ..https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/28/politics/donald-trump-taxes-election-2020-joe-biden-debate/index.html .”

These two criticisms are not necessarily mutually exclusive, but they do jostle for primacy. There’s no point to being a big tax dodger unless there is big money coming through the door. The criticism also highlights a danger. Much of the commentary on the complexities of Trump’s finances in coming days will be flowing from political and media types who can be stumped by filling out their expense accounts.

I tried to offset that by talking to a half-dozen people I know who have either high wealth or are familiar in a detailed way with the strategies of people in that sphere. Several of these people flashed caution signals: Trump’s tax returns, while interesting, offer only fragmentary evidence on the question of whether he is a masterful businessman or is only steps away from catastrophe. The coming debt payments the Times refers to ominously might or might not be easy to roll over into new loans. The golf course losses as accounted for in taxes don’t provide a great window into their actual balance sheets, or their value as long-term assets. Absent knowing much more about his cash flow and his underlying assets, we still don’t have a clear picture of Trump’s true wealth or how secure it is.

The Times story, however, does invite a philosophical question that flows around many wealthy people in that sphere — which is big enough to include people worth much less and much more than the president. What is the purpose of their moneymaking?

Different people will have different points at which their material wants are satisfied. For some it may be, “I’ll never fly coach again.” For others it may be, “I’ll never fly commercial again.” But once that point is reached, what is the reason to keep making more?

There are some people I’ve encountered who don’t have ostentatious personal tastes but seem to have an almost mathematical fascination with money and the process of generating wealth. There are some people who want to make a lot in order to give away a lot, to have the new dorm named after them or to know that some kid won’t get malaria because of their contribution. Some people loved sports as a child and want to own the team as an adult.

In Trump’s case, the reality is something we have long known but is reaffirmed by the Times reporting. He decided at an early age that he wanted money in order to take the world’s longest and most flamboyant ego trip. He wanted never to be anonymous and never be inconsequential.

We don’t know the precise size of Trump’s fortune but we know enough that there are a fairly high number of people — in finance, in technology, in manufacturing — in this very wealthy country who are wealthier than he is.

But there aren’t other people who have so artfully integrated their financial strategy with their life goals and rode that all the way to the presidency. There is a genius in that.

The question is whether the signatures of Trump’s financial management — leverage other people’s money to promote his personal brand, keep all the plates up in the air for as long as possible, and let someone else clean up the mess if a plate drops — have effectively anticipated his performance at the top of government. The corporate tax cut in Trump’s first year did boost the economy for a while, with a lot of debt to be paid once he’s gone. He seemed to glide over impeachment and countless other controversies that, by the rules of conventional politics, should have sunk him. We are a month away of finding out if that gift will carry him through a year of pandemic and racial unrest.

In Trump’s brand of high-risk politics, like his brand of business, it could be that Trump will remain a genius until some day he isn’t.

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2020/09/29/the-new-york-times-confirms-trump-is-a-genius-422837

Some are enjoying it. it's worth having a shot at it as long as you feel like it.

No matter. i'm still getting spelling red lines.

brooklyn13, What should be much more important to you is why you have a fetish with me.

"This is no doubt bad, but makes one wonder what your fetish is about Israel. As if there aren't more dastardly
things happening in the world, or at least as bad. About which you post zero if it's not about Trump.
https://concernusa.org/news/worlds-worst-humanitarian-crises/
P - You outed yourself a few weeks ago by referring to Israelis as "the Jews"."

Same old bullshit from you. Funny thing is i don't recall ever referring to Israelis as the Jews (and i can't see that any of two searches has come up with me saying that), and even if i did what the hell would be the problem with it. Israel leaders see it as a Jewish state. So i really don't understand what your problem could legitimately be, if i did say it, and i doubt if i ever did. i think there is a good chance you just made that up. Would appreciate a link backing that stupid strawman claim of yours.

A couple of the posts the board search came up with:

Analysis |[/color] One Thing Netanyahu Was Not Expecting From This ultra-Orthodox, Right-wing Grieving Family: The Truth
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Anyway fuck you and your agenda which has been repeatedly debunked here (search my posts for Somalia, or Houthis, or Sudan or any other war theaters).

"Although we know that about you already as you constantly try to deflect attention from the fact that you live contentedly in an apartheid state, on land stolen from Aborigines. Feeling guilty, much?
P - It's also interesting to note that people on this board who agree with you politically are allowed to call others the most vile names. while those with whom you disagree get suspended for much less colorful language. More of your hypocrisy in action, eh?"

Not that i have ever had anything to defend around your accusations, just the fact is i have given you much evidence that i have posted on our indigenous people and the inequities they suffer in Australia. And YOU are well aware of that, so you there are, yet again, posting scurrilous lies, vicious misinformation around yet another strawman position you continue to belabor. How misguidedly silly of you to continue with it. How dishonest of you it is. As for our insult policy there has always been room for justified insult vs unjustified considerations. No hypocrisy there either. And to note, there is, again yet again, on your part comment on moderation which is against the rules.

You are pitiable.

Add Biden and others are calling for an immediate ceasefire. Myself and others here have been calling for that since early October 2023. Anyway, with the likely impending invasion of southern Lebanon it's worth checking out this map again, eh


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We know what the goal of the extremist Zionists is don't we. Greater Israel has always been the target.

Good. We need funny in dark times. Release is important, for balance.

If i were in America i'd likely help you out. You are having a go, creating something for others, and enjoying. That's the bottom line.

LOL Guessing you gotta be right again. "I really don't think so, since in the end Norma
Desmond can't get the attention she so desperately needs, and goes completely nuts."

And he wouldn't see himself in Joe's place .. some of

Gillis accepts the proposition and quickly becomes the faded star's kept man. Desmond schemes to get the script into the hands of renowned filmmaker Cecil B. DeMille for Paramount Pictures to produce. The once-famous actress is misled into thinking Mr. DeMille is interested in working with her again, but in truth he wants to use her vintage car, a 1929 Isotta Fraschini, in his current period epic. It is Max who lies to Norma Desmond about Mr. DeMille's intentions in order to keep her happy and in denial about her fallen status. His actions, however misguided they may seem, stem from his admiration for her, as it is later revealed he was also her first husband.

Norma saw Joe sleeping while came to his room, took his script and discovered that he write the script with Betty Schaefer. Betty reveals to Joe that she doesn't love Artie anymore and begin to developing her feelings toward Joe. After kissing Betty, Joe returned to Norma's mansion and discovered that Norma is calling Betty about him, causing Joe to take the telephone away from Norma and gave Betty the address of Norma's mansion.

https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Norma_Desmond

So in watching it he enjoys basking in the celebrity life? And the scheming?

Feet on the ground, sounds solid - "“Sometimes I think people get a little bit scared kicking into the wind but I don’t really mind it,” Taylor said. “Because if you hit the right ball, you can actually use the wind to improve your hang time.

“It was really one of those things, last week, it was pretty (crap) to be honest. It wasn’t good enough. I had the chance to help the team last week and I didn’t. Just wanted to go in the game and be myself and really fortunate enough to have (special teams coordinator Richard Hightower) and all the rest of the specialists look out for me as well.”"

i screwed it at first here by replying to the wrong one, so leaving both 'cuz want this in:

"Looks like the writers got the message from Taylor in their early interviews of him; don't play up the Aussie angle."

That's good.

Since sisters say when very young i used to invite them into campfires, and since years later on the Banff-Jasper Highway (now looks it's renamed the Icefields Parkway .. https://parks.canada.ca/pn-np/ab/banff/visit/les10-top10/glaciers-icefields ) one sorta chased me for a minute or so (lucky it was bored easily), and since we have a cluster of Chicago critters on this board, and since Tory Taylor is with them now i guess it makes sense i should have some affinity for the team. LOL, hey, golf for me is off for a time, so ... Go Bears!

5. We got a pretty good look at why the Bears said Tory Taylor — the punter — could be a weapon
when they drafted him in the fourth round (No. 122 overall).
...the second-highest drafted punter since the Jacksonville Jaguars selected Bryan Anger in the third round
in 2012. Only Mitch Wishnowsky of the San Francisco 49ers (No. 110 in 2019) has been chosen higher since."

Game balls: 6 standouts from the Bears' Week 4 win vs. Rams

Portrait of Alyssa Barbieri Alyssa Barbieri
Bears Wire
Sept. 30, 2024

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The Chicago Bears (2-2) defeated the Los Angeles Rams (1-3), 24-18, in Week 4, which snapped their two-game losing streak and extended their home winning streak to seven games.

The Bears saw impressive performances from all three phases in their most complete win of the season. The defense continued its dominance, holding their opponent under 21 points for the 10th consecutive game, including just one touchdown. The offense finally found an identity with the run game, where D'Andre Swift feasted with 93 yards and added 72 receiving yards, as rookie Caleb Williams continued to make strides. Meanwhile, punter Tory Taylor proved to be a weapon on special teams.

There were several standout performances on offense, defense and special teams in the encouraging victory. Here is who earned game balls from the Week 4 win against the Rams.

1. RB D'Andre Swift


Sep 29, 2024; Chicago, Illinois, USA; Chicago Bears running back D'Andre Swift (4) runs for a touchdown against the Los Angeles Rams during the second half at Soldier Field. Mandatory Credit: Matt Marton-Imagn Images

D'Andre Swift's start in Chicago couldn't have started worse, where he averaged 1.8 yards per carry through three games. But Sunday's win finally provided a glimpse of why the Bears brought Swift to Chicago with his best game of the season, where he dominated both on the ground and through the air. Swift totaled 165 scrimmage yards, leading the Bears both in rushing (16 carries, 93 yards, touchdown) and receiving (seven catches, 72 yards). He also had a huge 36-yard rushing touchdown that was the deciding score. The arrival of the run game finally provided an identity for Chicago's offense.

2. S Jaquan Brisker


Sep 29, 2024; Chicago, Illinois, USA; Chicago Bears safety Jaquan Brisker (9) celebrates a defensive stop against the Los Angeles Rams during the second half at Soldier Field. Mandatory Credit: David Banks-Imagn Images

There were plenty of standout performances on defense, but third-year safety Jaquan Brisker was the standout. Brisker's physicality and ballhawking ability were a big part of his impressive outing. He led the Bears with 12 tackles, including two tackles for loss, one sack, one pass breakup, one QB hit and a game-sealing interception. Brisker should've had two interceptions as his first pick was called back after he failed to reestablish his second foot in bounds. But he made up for it when he picked off Matthew Stafford to prevent him the opportunity to mount a comeback in the final minutes.

3. QB Caleb Williams


Sep 29, 2024; Chicago, Illinois, USA; Chicago Bears quarterback Caleb Williams (18) greets fans after the second half against the Los Angeles Rams at Soldier Field. Mandatory Credit: Matt Marton-Imagn Images

Rookie quarterback Caleb Williams put together his best performance of his young career. While he didn't light up the boxscore, he was efficient and took care of the football as the offense found its identity with the run game. While he had some early struggles in the first quarter, including overthrowing Rome Odunze and not being on the same page as DJ Moore on what would've been a touchdown in the end zone, he found a rhythm in the second half, taking the checkdowns with D'Andre Swift and making timely passes. Williams completed 17-of-23 passes (74 completion %) for 157 yards with one touchdown and no turnovers for a 106.6 passer rating.

4. P Tory Taylor


Aug 17, 2024; Chicago, Illinois, USA; Chicago Bears punter Tory Taylor (19) punts against the Cincinnati Bengals during the first half at Soldier Field. Mandatory Credit: David Banks-USA TODAY Sports

The Bears faced some initial criticism about drafting a punter in the fourth round, but Tory Taylor has more than proven to be worth the investment. Taylor played a key role in Chicago's big win over the Rams, where he was a weapon in the fourth quarter when they needed to flip the field. Taylor had five punts for 277 yards, averaging 55.4 yards per punt, and downed three inside the 20-yard line. That included a 66 yarder with just about two minutes left in the game, which pinned the Rams deep and forced a three-and-out. Taylor also downed the ball inside the 10-yard line on his final punt, which helped flip the field and prevent Matthew Stafford from mounting a comeback.

5. DE Montez Sweat


CHICAGO, ILLINOIS - SEPTEMBER 29: Montez Sweat #98 of the Chicago Bears celebrates after forcing a fumble by Matthew Stafford (not pictured) of the Los Angeles Rams during the second quarter at Soldier Field on September 29, 2024 in Chicago, Illinois. (Photo by Michael Reaves/Getty Images)

Defensive end Montez Sweat has transformed this defense, and he continued to show his impact getting after the quarterback. Sweat totaled two tackles, including one tackle for loss, one sack, one forced fumble, one pass breakup and one QB hit. His lone sack was a strip-sack on quarterback Matthew Stafford, where he blew through two blockers and managed to strip the ball. His fumble was recovered by cornerback Kyler Gordon and gave Chicago's offense the ball on the Rams' 16-yard line, which led to a Roschon Johnson 1-yard touchdown. Sweat continues to be a force along the defensive line, and he now has two sacks this season.

6. DT Gervon Dexter


CHICAGO, ILLINOIS - SEPTEMBER 29: Matthew Stafford #9 of the Los Angeles Rams is sacked by Gervon Dexter Sr. #99 of the Chicago Bears during the first quarter at Soldier Field on September 29, 2024 in Chicago, Illinois. (Photo by Quinn Harris/Getty Images)

Second-year defensive tackle Gervon Dexter has been a standout player through the first month of the season, and that was true in Sunday's win against the Rams. Dexter totaled two tackles, including one tackle for loss, one sack and two QB hits. He continues to be the dominant three-technique that this defense needs to find success up front, and he's feasted in the backfield. Dexter has one of the highest pass rush win percentages in the league for defensive tackles, and the arrow is pointed up.

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This looks a missing link for yours ..
https://www.chicagotribune.com/2024/09/30/chicago-bears-brad-biggs-10-thoughts-week-4/ .

That's insight i didn't have. And because i don't watch much at all of that sort that stuff i had no
idea what sort of a character Norma Desmond was until you said what you said about her.

"For example, one of his favorites is Sunset Boulevard. He recommends it to people; even makes
them watch it. And it seems he never for a moment realizes that HE is Norma Desmond."

Guessing he likely does see much of himself in her, and that's at least a good part of the reason he is keen to have others watch it.

Am also guessing Howard Gardner would suggest Trump has his share of 6. Interpersonal Intelligence ..
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=175048566 .

Looks a good one, excerpt: “Comedy really thrives in dark times,” said Black. “When you tune into Have I Got News for You at the end of a difficult week,” added Mulville, “and someone says something about someone who’s pissed you off, it just gives you a sense of wellbeing.”

Before the first episode even airs, CNN has taken this show further in the US than any other network. When asked exactly what they’re looking for, though – whether success would mean viewers watching live, say, more streaming subscribers, or viral social media clips – the network declined to pick a specific metric. “All of the above,” Entelis replied in an email.

Viewers tuning in this weekend will find the show “very similar” to the UK original, Mulville said. As it gets off the ground, though, those involved hope the series will evolve into a distinct beast.

Black pointed to one of the most successful transatlantic comedy remakes of the modern era: The Office. “At first, that first season, it pretty much felt like the British Office,” he said. “But over time, the show takes on its first identity.”

In the UK, with team captains Paul Merton and Ian Hislop, Have I Got News for You has built a narrative over more than three decades. It is the soul of the show, regardless of what’s happened in the news that week.

“I’m looking to figure out what is the soul of this show,” said Black. “Which is sad,” he added wryly, “because we’ll probably be canceled in about three weeks.”

Asked about the future of the series beyond the fall, Entelis did not respond.

Have I Got News for You starts on CNN on 14 September

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2024/sep/14/have-i-got-news-for-you-us-version

As you say he has been very successful at selling himself to millions. That takes some smarts.

"Obviously, he's spent way too much time watching The Purge. And he IS stupid. He isn't
knowledgeable about anything. But he has one gift, and it is for self-promotion."

Still, i agree Trump is stupid.

I'd never heard of it, so you got me again .. and again .. and again .. lols .. Ciao. Sleep well.

Fluke some. Even Stevens.

LOL He was one-up on me there. As fiction, The Purge looks like fun.

The Fickle World of Fake.

It's another world. Their world. It's just a shame so many envy it as a world worth
living in. A world worth voting for. Or a world not worth directly voting against.

LOL There you go, you got it ..

The films present a seemingly normal, crime-free America in the near future. However, the country is a dystopia which observes an annual event known as "the Purge", in which all crime, including murder, is legal for a 12-hour period.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Purge

Fiction. New to me. He is living in a fairly far-flung sense of reality. He is nuts. Good call.

LOL. And she saw it as her "acting debut", the debut .. https://ew.com/tv/2018/02/01/melania-trump-aflac-duck-commercial/ .. that was all of it. Discounting, of course, the acting she is still into.

He isn't stupid, as some believe, he's only incredibly stupid in some ways. As you suggest "I think he to some extent realizes it, but tells himself it'll go away... " i agree, he must realize he says some very dumb things. Maybe he thinks, a bit, that it's worked for him so far why would it not always work in the future.

Got a hunch he might be feeling a bit desperate, and because he's never much doubted himself before doesn't know how to handle it. And he has just said whatever has come into his head for so long...

Dunno, but one thing has to be certain, Trump is losing it to say what he said there, to paraphrase some - 'Just one incredibly violent day by the police, and it will all go away.' - meaning of course that those who commit violence, break the law, whatever, will see if they don't behave they will be beaten by the police. Then it will all go away, then we will have solved the problem. Except of course it has never worked in the past.

And it isn't working for Netanyahu. In the long run it has never worked for anyone who thought violence was the best way of dealing with violence. You know, 'doing the same thing over and over though it's never worked before, is one definition of insanity. There is no doubt Trump exhibits more insanity than most.

Trump is not mentally stable enough to be president again. Responsible people tried to mold him before and it worked some. He didn't bomb Iran. Still...

If only, at least a few who still care even a little for what is obviously a better choice.

You're right they should. Trump is a sick man.

Likely. He is sure losing it more every day.

As good - Trump says ‘violent day’ of policing will end crime

The remarks at a campaign rally Sunday did not amount to a policy proposal allowing police retaliation, the former president’s campaign said.


Donald Trump said Sunday: “One rough hour — and I mean real rough — the word will get out and it will end immediately, you know?" | AFP via Getty Images

By Adam Wren
09/29/2024 10:53 PM EDT

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Former President Donald Trump on Sunday called for “one real rough, nasty” and “violent day” of police retaliation in order to eradicate crime “immediately.”

The remarks — delivered by Trump at a rally in Erie, Pennsylvania, just 36 days before the election — did not amount to a new policy proposal, according to a Trump campaign official.

“One rough hour — and I mean real rough — the word will get out and it will end immediately, you know? It will end immediately,” Trump said.

[Insert: Yeah, Donnie, domestic violence works
wonders too. Oh, you said it as a joke, eh. Ass.]

Asked whether the former president’s idea amounted to a new proposal and how such an operation would work, a campaign official said Trump was “clearly just floating it in jest.”

“President Trump has always been the law and order President and he continues to reiterate the importance of enforcing existing laws,” Steven Cheung, the campaign’s communications director, wrote in a statement to POLITICO. “Otherwise it’s all-out anarchy, which is what Kamala Harris has created in some of these communities across America, especially during her time as [California] Attorney General when she emboldened criminals.

Trump was found guilty earlier this year of 34 felony counts by a New York jury related to his scheme to cover up hush money payments to a porn actor.

Trump’s comments came during a section of his speech in which he falsely suggested you could steal up to $950 worth of merchandise without consequence in California — a reference to Proposition 47, which reclassified some theft offenses from felonies to misdemeanors. Harris was California state attorney general when California voters approved that ballot initiative, but she remained neutral on the matter. The dollar threshold Trump referenced actually became law four years earlier, signed by then-Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger, a Republican.

Nationally, property crime declined 2.4 percent over the last year, according to recently released FBI statistics .. https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/violent-crime-dropped-america-last-year-new-fbi-data-shows-rcna172217 .

Trump has a long history of endorsing police violence, having said that police reaction to the racial unrest in response to the murder of George Floyd in 2020 “was a beautiful thing to watch. In a 2017 speech, he said: “When you see these thugs being thrown into the back of a paddy wagon, you just see them thrown in, rough. I said, ‘Please don’t be too nice.’”

Harris’ campaign clipped and posted Trump’s comments to X ..

Trump says his idea for stopping crime is to allow for “one really violent day”: “One rough hour, and I mean real rough...” pic.twitter.com/6XeVXL6R8b

— Kamala HQ (@KamalaHQ) September 29, 2024

.. but declined to comment further.

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/09/29/trump-violent-day-policing-crime-00181619

Trump didn't say it in jest. And his comments there clearly indicate he is becoming less rational with each passing day.

Heh, yep, the world has plenty of fossil fuel left, it's our duty to use it all even if we only have "“100 to 500 years left.”"

Thought of that too. That out of context would be a hoot.