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Guess I'm cynical, but WAG is Larry can't produce honest financials to satisfy the SEC so he wants to move it all to Germany. If I ever see even 1k of my money back I will be amazed.
My concern also.
Here's where Larry's e-mail went to: "joedebo@wfnn.info". Is that the one you were using?
"What we have here is a failure to communicate" LOL
righty, that's what I'm saying. That "BS we answer all calls" went to him also to so it's like a challenge to him.
So maybe the good Dr. Joseph de Beauchamp will now ask him and he will finally talk.
Swayne, I apologize for not asking you first as I didn't say who asked the Dr. for his opinion. Here's the first part of my e-mail to Larry:
Hello Mr. Skolnik,
Any comment on Dr. Joseph de Beauchamp reply?
<A HREF='http://usas1.advfn.com/oasis/oasisc.php?s=43&w=336&h=280&t=_blank' TARGET='_blank'><IMG SRC='http://usas1.advfn.com/oasis/oasisi.php?s=43&w=336&h=280&t=_blank' WIDTH=336 HEIGHT=280 BORDER=0></A> Reply from Dr. Joseph de Beauchamp - not good.
...
My Question:
I have a substantial investment in EQBM & SOMA ($xx) and have been trying to conduct some DD on the following news article:
Dr. Joseph de Beauchamp of World Financial News Network started coverage and gives favorable analysis to Equitable Life Investments. The company develops oil and gas properties.
Seattle, WA (PRWEB) March 20, 2005 — Dr. Joseph de Beauchamp of World Financial News Network started coverage and gives favorable analysis to Equitable Life Investments, which develops oil and gas properties. etc
Just noticed that in Larry's reply to me he also replied to Dr. Joseph de Beauchamp.
What have I started now? Something I hope.
Gee, hard to guess which person I find more believable? ;~)
Larry replied:
BS we answer all calls
First Union Kreditanstalt S.A Zurich CH. B"H"
Toronto New York NORTH AMERICAN PHONE 416 410 3995
FAX 416 784 1529
Lawrence Uri Skolnik Principal
North American Office 4936 Yonge St. Suite 727
Toronto Ontario M2N6S3
providers of capital to public companies
I e-mailed the body of your post to Larry asking if he had any comment. Fat chance I'll hear from him.
The thought occurred to me and if he told me straight out it would be insider information. Then again he may say he won't which I'm surrrre I would believe. We haven't had a filed report since the June 06 so I don't even know if we have a stake in Red Lake.
Of course I'll get a straight answer back from Larry. LOL
Larry,
Considering we shareholders haven’t heard anything from you I assume you will be declaring bankruptcy. Can you tell me the time frame for when both my 1.5 million shares of EQBM and my 30K of my untradeable SOMA shares will be totally worthless?
xxxxx xxxx
All kidding aside I don't ever expect to get even a penny back. No way I'm selling at these prices. I'm down 13 to 14k at the moment, but as far as I'm concerned the company is bankrupt - Larry just doesn't have the nerve to tell us. I'll be very surprised if Larry ever accomplished tying his shoes let alone keeping one of his promises.
Now be nice Couch, I need my delusions, after all if I use to believe this time when I drank it would be different, then believing some day EQBM will even give me back the money I put into it (let alone give me a profit) is a piece of cake. As far as SOMA goes it's still sitting at Scottrade untradeable.
I'm just patiently waiting until I can claim long term gains instead of short term for tax purposes - then I'm out of here!
;»
Edit Deleted - not fixed after all.
Righty, you don't mind if they do this to your posts? The word "broker"
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=21946172
OT: The green double underlined green words are back. How do I get rid of them?
Next we'll hear his dog died and the well went dry!
See Scottrade finally took out the warrants in my account. Larry's such a joker! Not very funny though.
Think I'll get another 4 word reply? Or nothing.....
Just e-mailed Larry:
When will you be able to ACTUALLY update us shareholders on ANYTHING? We laugh at you because you always say next week, but never deliver!
XXXXXX XXXXXX
1.5 Million worthless shares of EQBM
30K shares of worthless SOMA shares I can’t sell through Scottrade.
Below is my last e-mail to you and your reply. Feel free to live up to things you have said in the past:
_____________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________
waiting call back sec
First Union Kreditanstalt S.A Zurich CH. B"H"
Toronto New York NORTH AMERICAN PHONE 416 410 3995
FAX 416 784 1529
Lawrence Uri Skolnik Principal
North American Office 4936 Yonge St. Suite 727
Toronto Ontario M2N6S3
providers of capital to public companies
________________________________________
Don't pick lemons.
See all the new 2007 cars at Yahoo! Autos.
From: XXXXXXXXX
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2007 6:46 AM
To: lehat2000@yahoo.com
Subject: questions you might answer to clear things up
Larry,
If you could address these issues in PRs it might help your credibility immensely. JMHO
Posted by: xgin
In reply to: None Date:3/9/2007 9:03:00 AM
Post #[ ]of 33406
<A HREF='http://as1.investorshub.com/oasis/oasisc.php?s=43&w=336&h=280&t=_blank' TARGET='_blank'><IMG SRC='http://as1.investorshub.com/oasis/oasisi.php?s=43&w=336&h=280&t=_blank' WIDTH=336 HEIGHT=280 BORDER=0></A>Things I would like Larry to clear up (feel free to add to the list):
1. Who gets what in the Dalian deal
2. Where's our update on Red Lake?
3. Up to date quarterlies - O/S shares expenses and such
4. Ownership of claims in Somaliland.
5. ?
I guess #5 could be the spin-off shares in SOMA Petro. You've never said what symbol our shares would trade under, where they'd trade, or any explanation of why DTCC has a "chill" on them and what you're doing about it. Communication through e-mails really is not a very satisfactory way of releasing news, again in my humble opinion. This is a public company after all.
1.5 millions share in EQBM (a non-trading company),
XXXXXXX
Who isn't would probably be better. It's irrelevant to me because the stock is so illiquid that it might as well be 100 percent.
"Next week" is just another version of "The check is in the mail, I swear, I mailed it yesterday!" when the collection agency calls. IMHO of course.
I couldn't have said it better Righty!
July 18th marks the date of my first 70k shares. Wow..I'll be able to claim the long term capital gains rate...that's, of course, if I could actually SELL the stock for anything at all.
If Larry does put out a PR next week I hope it's not the usual smoke and mirrors. I know that sounds obvious, but he really has to DO something pretty powerful to make up for all the ill will he's caused. I have pretty low expectations that Larry is capable playing it straight.
Same here. I'm tired of Larry stalling on his fiduciary responsibilities.
You think he's still alive? Wouldn't know from what we've heard from him.
Thanks for the update-did he address any of your other concerns?
Amen to the weather. Going to Atlanta on business Tue-Fri and after living back East for 17 years I know I'll appreciate it even if it's 66 and drizzlely when I get back.
Just hope the SEC wasn't waiting for Larry with handcuffs when & if he showed up.
I think we got the same thing from Scottrade...
Would you like to offer even a shred of proof to your accusation? Can't can you? The pond has been producing metals from before Larry even mentioned it.
Edit: And take your Spam technique somewhere else. Do it again and I'll report you.
My bet is they won't let you do it electronically, but will require you to call it in and place it with a broker.
Please let us know if you can buy and sell SOMPF with E-Trade as I want to be able to give Scottrade a hard time. Thanks
We've hashed this over so many times I don't have anything more I can say until something more is known. Back to lurcking with (it's my guess anyway)many others. Wonder how many lurckers are out there?
#1
Depends on your broker. If you have Scottrade you could have traded it for a few days then they put a "#" sign back on it and you couldn't.E-mail response from them on 05/07/07:
Thank you for your email. Scottrade still does not offer trading on SOMPF.
If you have any further questions, please let us know.
Sincerely,
Nick Francisco
Scottrade, Inc.
www.scottrade.com
www.ScottradeElite.com
Now what do I do?
Dear Stuart,
Thank you for your email. Scottrade still does not offer trading on SOMPF.
If you have any further questions, please let us know.
Sincerely,
Nick Francisco
Scottrade, Inc.
www.scottrade.com
www.ScottradeElite.com
Switch to Scottrade now for up to $100 in transfer-fee reimbursement. Visit www.scottrade.com/switch for details.
________________________________________
From: Stuart XXXX
Sent: Monday, May 07, 2007 7:55 PM
To: Scottrade Customer Support
Subject: RE: Question about SOMPF#
Hi Dave,
Has there any progress on allowing me to trade SOMPF? And if not why and when will I be able to trade? There are brokers allowing trade, some requiring a minimum of 5k shares.
Stuart
This is an old post, but it might apply here so I thought I'd post it. FWIW (??)
Wonder if management have read the book on "Cellar Boxing"?
CELLAR BOXING
There s a form of the securities fraud known as naked short selling that is becoming very popular and lucrative to the market makers that practice it. It is known as Cellar boxing and it has to do with the fact that the NASD and the SEC had to arbitrarily set a minimum level at which a stock can trade. This level was set at $.0001 or one-one hundredth of a penny. This level is appropriately referred to as the cellar . This $.0001 level can be used as a "backstop" for all kinds of market maker and naked short selling manipulations.
Cellar boxing has been one of the security frauds du jour since 1999 when the market went to a decimalization basis. In the pre-decimalization days the minimum market spread for most stocks was set at 1/8th of a dollar and the market makers were guaranteed a healthy spread . Since decimalization came into effect, those one-eighth of a dollar spreads now are often only a penny as you can see in Microsoft s quote throughout the day. Where did the unscrupulous MMs go to make up for all of this lost income? They headed "south" to the OTCBB and Pink Sheets where the protective effects from naked short selling like Rule 10-a, and NASD Rules 3350, 3360, and 3370 are nonexistent.
The unique aspect of needing an arbitrary cellar level is that the lowest possible incremental gain above this cellar level represents a 100% spread available to MMs making a market in these securities. When compared to the typical spread in Microsoft of perhaps four-tenths of 1%, this is pretty tempting territory. In fact, when the market is no bid to $.0001 offer there is theoretically an infinite spread.
In order to participate in cellar boxing , the MMs first need to pummel the price per share down to these levels. The lower they can force the share price, the larger are the percentage spreads to feed off of. This is easily done via garden variety naked short selling. In fact if the MM is large enough and has enough visibility of buy and sell orders as well as order flow, he can simultaneously be acting as the conduit for the sale of nonexistent shares through Canadian co-conspiring broker/dealers and their associates with his right hand at the same time that his left hand is naked short selling into every buy order that appears through its own proprietary accounts. The key here is to be a dominant enough of a MM to have visibility of these buy orders. This is referred to as "broker/dealer internalization" or naked short selling via "desking" which refers to the market makers trading desk. While the right hand is busy flooding the victim company's market with "counterfeit" shares that can be sold at any instant in time the left hand is nullifying any upward pressure in share price by neutralizing the demand for the securities. The net effect becomes no demonstrable demand for shares and a huge oversupply of shares which induces a downward spiral in share price.
In fact, until the "beefed up" version of Rule 3370 (Affirmative determination in writing of "borrowability" by settlement date) becomes effective, U.S. MMs have been "legally" processing naked short sale orders out of Canada and other offshore locations even though they and the clearing firms involved knew by history that these shares were in no way going to be delivered. The question that then begs to be asked is how "the system" can allow these obviously bogus sell orders to clear and settle. To find the answer to this one need look no further than to Addendum "C" to the Rules and Regulations of the NSCC subdivision of the DTCC. This gaping loophole allows the DTCC, which is basically the 11,000 b/ds and banks that we refer to as "Wall Street , to borrow shares from those investors naive enough to hold these shares in "street name" at their brokerage firm. This amounts to about 95% of us. Theoretically, this borrow was designed to allow trades to clear and settle that involved LEGITIMATE 1 OR 2 DAY delays in delivery. This "borrow" is done unbeknownst to the investor that purchased the shares in question and amounts to probably the largest "conflict of interest" known to mankind. The question becomes would these investors knowingly loan, without compensation, their shares to those whose intent is to bankrupt their investment if they knew that the loan process was the key mechanism needed for the naked short sellers to effect their goal? Another question that arises is should the investor's b/d who just earned a commission and therefore owes its client a fiduciary duty of care, be acting as the intermediary in this loan process keeping in mind that this b/d is being paid the cash value of the shares being loaned as a means of collateralizing the loan, all unbeknownst to his client the purchaser.
An interesting phenomenon occurs at these "cellar" levels. Since NASD Rule 3370 allows MMs to legally naked short sell into markets characterized by a plethora of buy orders at a time when few sell orders are in existence, a MM can theoretically "legally" sit at the $.0001 level and sell nonexistent shares all day long because at no bid and $.0001 ask there is obviously a huge disparity between buy orders and sell orders. What tends to happen is that every time the share price tries to get off of the cellar floor and onto the first step of the stairway at $.0001 there is somebody there to step on the hands of the victim corporation's market.
Once a given micro cap corporation is boxed in the cellar it doesn t have a whole lot of options to climb its way out of the cellar. One obvious option would be for it to reverse split its way out of the cellar but history has shown that these are counter-productive as the market capitalization typically gets hammered and the post split share price level starts heading back to its original pre-split level.
Another option would be to organize a sustained buying effort and muscle your way out of the cellar but typically there will, as if by magic, be a naked short sell order there to meet each and every buy order. Sometimes the shareholder base can muster up enough buying pressure to put the market at $.0001 bid and $.0002 offer for a limited amount of time. Later the market makers will typically pound the $.0001 bids with a blitzkrieg of selling to wipe out all of the bids and the market goes back to no bid and $.0001 offer. When the weak-kneed shareholders see this a few times they usually make up their mind to sell their shares the next time that a $.0001 bid appears and to get the heck out of Dodge. This phenomenon is referred to as shaking the tree for weak-kneed investors and it is very effective.
At times the market will go to $.0001 bid and $.0003 offer. This sets up a juicy 200% spread for the MMs and tends to dissuade any buyers from reaching up to the "lofty" level of $.0003. If a $.0002 bid should appear from a MM not "playing ball" with the unscrupulous MMs, it will be hit so quickly that Level 2 will never reveal the existence of the bid. The $.0001 bid at $.0003 offer market sets up a "stalemate" wherein market makers can leisurely enjoy the huge spreads while the victim company slowly dilutes itself to death by paying the monthly bills with "real" shares sold at incredibly low levels. Since all of these development-stage corporations have to pay their monthly bills, time becomes on the side of the naked short sellers.
At times it almost seems that the unscrupulous market makers are not actively trying to kill the victim corporation but instead want to milk the situation for as long of a period of time as possible and let the corporation die a slow death by dilution. The reality is that it is extremely easy to strip away 99% of a victim company s share price or market cap and to keep the victim corporation boxed in the cellar, but it really is difficult to kill a corporation especially after management and the shareholder base have figured out the game that is being played at their expense.
As the weeks and months go by the market makers make a fortune with these huge percentage spreads but the net aggregate naked short positions become astronomical from all of this activity. This leads to some apprehension amongst the co-conspiring MMs. The predicament they find themselves in is that they can t even stop naked short selling into every buy order that appears because if they do the share price will gap and this will put tremendous pressures on net capital reserves for the MMs and margin maintenance requirements for the co-conspiring hedge funds and others operating out of the more than 13,000 naked short selling margin accounts set up in Canada. And of course covering the naked short position is out of the question since they can t even stop the day-to-day naked short selling in the first place and you can't be covering at the same time you continue to naked short sell.
What typically happens in these situations is that the victim company has to massively dilute its share structure from the constant paying of the monthly burn rate with money received from the selling of real shares at artificially low levels. Then the goal of the naked short sellers is to point out to the investors, usually via paid Internet bashers , that with the, let s say, 50 billion shares currently issued and outstanding, that this lousy company is not worth the $5 million market cap it is trading at, especially if it is just a shell company whose primary business plan was wiped out by the naked short sellers tortuous interference earlier on.
The truth of the matter is that the single biggest asset of these victim companies often becomes the astronomically large aggregate naked short position that has accumulated throughout the initial bear raid and also during the cellar boxing phase. The goal of the victim company now becomes to avoid the 3 main goals of the naked short sellers, namely: bankruptcy, a reverse split, or the forced signing of a death spiral convertible debenture out of desperation. As long as the victim company can continue to pay the monthly burn rate, then the game plan becomes to make some of the strategic moves that hundreds of victim companies have been forced into doing which includes name changes, CUSIP # changes, cancel/reissue procedures, dividend distributions, amending of by-laws and Articles of Corporation, etc. Nevada domiciled companies usually cancel all of their shares in the system, both real and fake, and force shareholders and their b/ds to PROVE the ownership of the old real shares before they get a new real share. Many also file their civil suits at this time also. This indirect forcing of hundreds of U.S. micro cap corporations to go through all of these extraneous hoops and hurdles as a means to survive, whether it be due to regulatory apathy or lack of resources, is probably one of the biggest black eyes the U.S. financial systems have ever sustained. In a perfect world it would be the regulators that periodically audit the C and D sub-accounts at the DTCC, the proprietary accounts of the MMs, clearing firms, and Canadian b/ds, and force the buy-in of counterfeit shares, many of which are hiding behind altered CUSIP #s, that are detected above the Rule 11830 guidelines for allowable failed deliveries of one half of 1% of the shares issued. U.S. micro cap corporations should not have to periodically purge their share structure of counterfeit electronic book entries but if the regulators will not do it then management has a fiduciary duty to do it.
A lot of management teams become overwhelmed with grief and guilt in regards to the huge increase in the number of shares issued and outstanding that have accumulated during their watch . The truth however is that as long as management made the proper corporate governance moves throughout this ordeal then a huge number of resultant shares issued and outstanding is unavoidable and often indicative of an astronomically high naked short position and is nothing to be ashamed of. These massive naked short positions need to be looked upon as huge assets that need to be developed. Hopefully the regulators will come to grips with the reality of naked short selling and tactics like "Cellar boxing" and quickly address this fraud that has decimated thousands of U.S. micro cap corporations and the tens of millions of U.S. investors therein.�
Thanks WTL. I guess I'll just have to wait and see how this shakes out as I don't know what I can do to be proactive, not having the facts or a clue on what's really going on and all.
Done with Jury Duty. He will be going away for 5 to 10 years. I think the same thing should happen to a few people in involved with EQBM/SOMPF - just don't know who yet. E-Trade maybe?
Has anyone with Scottrade sold SOMPF and had a good settlement. Got to run...Jury duty today & tomorrow. Wonder if I'll get picked...
No we can't. I'll repost my e-mail I received back from them yesterday.
Dear Mr. xxxxx,
Thank you for your phone call this morning. After researching your request, at this point we do not have an anticipated date for the settlement issues on SOMPF# to be resolved. Scottrade trading desk determined that there is currently no market maker exchanging shares of SOMPF. If one becomes available, Scottrade will remove the # sign so you can trade the security.
Please let us know if you have any other questions.
Sincerely,
Dave A.
Scottrade, Inc.
www.scottrade.com
www.ScottradeElite.com