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Enlighten us what is a "NORMAL DUMP"? People are fed-up with this company lying and they are bailing, whats not normal? LOL
WOW! So Glad I got out Yest. UNREAL!
HOLY MOTHER OF DUMPS WTF WAS THAT? SO GLAD I BAILED ALREADY!
I think the term GUILTY CONSCIENCE Might come into play here? Maybe they are afraid of their LIES being found out even more? I really think the SEC should look into this company? I mean it almost sounds like a Internet Boiler Room for this SHARE PRINTING PRESS of a Company going on here?
I mean what do they REALLY HAVE other than an Office & a Bunch of Debt?
THEY SELL SHARES AT A DISCOUNT TO ANYONE WITH LOTS OF CASH!
Can you explain in public what I supposedly did as an unregistered guest that caused you to ban me?
Additionally, why are you even tracking and investigating the IP addresses of non-registered guests who view the company's discussion forum?
Only The Companies That LIE to their Shareholders, like this one, get THE TRUTH TOLD ABOUT THEM, You call it slandered, but it's just the COLD HARD TRUTH BEING TOLD.
Daily companies are subjected to this kind of slander. More companies should fight back. Maybe certain "forums" wouldn't keep the choke hold they do if they did.
Who even cares about this Promissory note garbage? IT'S IRRELEVANT TO THE PPS THAT'S FELL FROM .002 TO .0003 IN A MATTER OF WEEKS BECAUSE OF THE LIES WE WERE TOLD!
WHAT IS IMPORTANT IS THE FACT THAT YOU AND YOUR CEO HAVE LIED TO EVERYONE PUBLICLY!
Your OWN FINANCIAL is the very proof that WE WERE OUTRIGHT LIED TO! And Now YOU'RE TRYING TO BLAME IT ON FRAUD THAT YOU "CLAIM" WAS DONE TO THE TRANSFER AGENT? BUT YOU HAVE FAILED TO PROVIDE ANY PROOF WHATSOEVER THAT THIS FRAUD STORY IS EVEN TRUE? YOU COULD BE LYING ABOUT THAT AS WELL?
Until this Company provides some Proof that Fraud was Indeed Committed against the T/A & the Company, I for one am not believing any of it until I see PROOF OF IT!
I am also contacting my Attorney about filing a lawsuit for my losses here, because I invested here BASED ON A LIE PROVIDED BY THE COMPANY!
It's the ONLY THING they are Moving Forward on BECAUSE THEY DON'T HAVE ANYTHING ELSE TO MOVE FORWARD ON!!!
The Conference Call basically told us that all the previous acquisitions FELL THROUGH! SO WHAT'S LEFT?
OH YEAH THAT'S RIGHT THEY ARE GOING TO BE A TRAVEL AGENT NOW FOR ZEUS TRAVEL! WHAT A JOKE! LOL
THEY HAVE NO REVS, EXAGGERATED ASSETS, NO SHIPS, ONLY SHARES TO SELL!
This company will be in Bankruptcy before you know it, but first the PPS will be going to 0001 X 0002 first, then NO BID! THEN THE PROMISED NO REVERSE SPLIT WILL BE INEVITABLE!
Here is something to consider, this is why I have a hunch that 0009 X 001 is the NEW Support Level and I think it's going to be short-term before this takes off for higher ground just after the new year.
#1. You have alot of Traders right now that are selling out of their Losers stocks for Tax Losses, or whatever other reasons people dump their Bagholder Stocks this time of the year.
#2. Most of these Traders are looking for something else to put their money into so they can make their losses back, and DEWM with it's Walmart Trial is the talk of Ihub right now. This is why my gut instinct is telling me we are looking at a new support level and blast-off very soon, because of excellent news coming up. Just my opinion.
That's why I finally had enough and bailed, instead of talking about REVENUE, ACQUISITIONS, ANYTHING TO BRING VALUE TO THE COMPANY, They talk about Trivial BS that means nothing compared to the THOUSANDS & THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS THEY HAVE RIPPED OF THE PUBLIC!
Are you talking about the LOCKED OFFICE DOOR? THIS COMPANY IS SUCH A SCAM THAT THEY KEEP THE OFFICE DOOR LOCKED SO THEY DON'T GET SERVED COURT PAPERS! LOL
I'm out of this POS, took a huge loss but this company is a joke and is going nowhere but to bankruptcy court in my opinion. Cruise line my azz! LOCKED OFFICE? WTF? THAT'S ALL THEY HAVE IS AN OFFICE AND A COUPLE IDIOTS POSTING ON THE INTERNET ATTEMPTING TO PUMP THE THING! GOODBYE & GOOD RIDDANCE! I'll have to make it back on some other Runners.
AND A PPS OF 0003 X 0004
Why are we even discussing a note for a fired consultant who was fired in 2012? WTF does that have to do with the "CURRENT DISASTER" WE HAVE BEFORE US, NAMELY A PPS OF .0003 X .0004 WHERE ANYONE STILL HOLDING THEIR STOCK LIKE MYSELF, IS A BAGHOLDER NOW.
THE TOPIC OF DISCUSSION SHOULD BE;
WTH IS THE CEO & COMPANY DOING ABOUT THIS? IF ANYTHING???
I WOULD BE VERY VERY HAPPY TO JUST BREAK EVEN RIGHT NOW & GET OUT OF THIS DEBACLE!!!
It's easy to just BLAME IT ALL ON "FRAUDULENT ACTIVITIES".
Especially when NOBODY HAS SHOWN US ANY PROOF OF IT YET?
Are you gonna tell me that THIS CEO & COMPANY HAS DELIVERED ON ANYTHING AT ALL THEY HAVE PR'D, THAT SHOULD MAKE THE SHARE PRICE BE WORTH ANYMORE THAN IT IS?
CONSIDERING ALL THE BILLIONS OF SHARES THAT HAVE BEEN DUMPED ON US, MASSIVELY INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE O/S & FLOAT???
A Fitting Quote From the Movie; The Outlaw Josie Whales;
"Don't Piss Down My Back & Tell Me it's Rainin" LOL
Bottom Line; I know for a FACT How these Toxic Financing for Convertible Debentures, deals work. I know EXACTLY how the Firms that lend cash to Micro-cap companies operate, and what they can force companies into doing.
From experience Trading and from the public companies I have worked for in the past, I have seen this firsthand time and time again.
I am NOT saying I KNOW EVERYTHING, Nor am I saying I KNOW WHAT THIS CEO KNOW'S, But I do know what I have read in this companies financials, what the have said Publicly, and have already caught them LYING TO IT'S SHAREHOLDERS, and for someone like myself who knows very well how this works, it's easy to see whats going on here.
I'm not saying this stock won't have a bounce, it very well might, but given the fact that they have NO REVENUE, NO ACQUISITIONS, NO SHIPS, I surely don't see this going very far at all. With all the debt they have, without a miracle, when the next wave of convertibles hit, this stock is headed to 0001 x 0002 and eventually NO BID. I hate to say this, I really do because I am losing my ass on this stock, but the truth is the truth.
It really depends on the company, if they have any actual products, revenue, assets, ect. ect.
I find the recent "UNAUDITED" financial that was issued, that the ASSETS Declared seem to be Inflated. Being that PVEC is not Producing any Revenue, and according the recent so-called Conference Call, the Majority of the Acquisition deals have fell through, what does this company actually have that gives it any "INTRINSIC VALUE"?
And as far as being TRANSPARENT? Like they like to state on their website, & on message boards, I don't believe they are being very Transparent at all.
Something you have to understand about Convertible debt;
When a company (like PVEC) signs an agreement for Convertible Debentures (free trading shares) for the Lender to get their Loan Repaid.
"THAT SIGNED AGREEMENT IS SIMILAR TO WRITING A CHECK"
AND THE TRANSFER AGENT IS THE BANK WHO ISSUES SHARES INSTEAD OF CASH. Obviously it is MUCH MORE Complex than simply Writing & Cashing a check.
The Lender takes the Signed agreement to the T/A and the transfer Agent "ISSUE SHARES ACCORDING TO THE TERMS IN THE AGREEMENT", similar to the way you would cash a check at a bank, but they receive share certificates Instead of Cash.
This story the company gave us for the increase is the A/S is most likely BS, they were probably FORCED INTO RAISING THE A/S BY THE HOLDERS OF THE CD NOTE, SO THAT THE NOTE HOLDER (LENDER) CAN GET MORE SHARES ISSUED TO THEM TO SELL ON THE OPEN MARKET TO GET THEIR LOAN REPAID BECAUSE THE O/S HAD BEEN MAXED OUT.
In my opinion, from years of experience in this type of Trading, this is the more believable scenario. I'm not saying that I am 100% right, but I find it hard to believe that a Transfer Agent would be Duped like the CEO is saying?
THE COMPANY CANNOT STOP THE LENDER FROM GETTING THEIR SHARES ISSUED TO THEM WITHOUT A COURT INJUNCTION, and there would have to be a valid reason for that to happen.
Personally I find this story the company gave us of one of the Lenders getting;
MULTIPLE COPIES OF THEIR CD FRAUDULENTLY ISSUED TO THEM HOGWASH!
I think that Peter HAD NO IDEA WHAT HE WAS GETTING INTO WHEN HE SIGNED AN AGREEMENT FOR TOXIC FINANCING, I don't think he knew what these Lenders are capable of doing once they get their hands on a signed (Toxic Financing) loan agreement for CD's.
IF THIS STORY OF MULTIPLE CONVERSION AND FRAUDULENT SHARES BEING ISSUED WAS TRUE, THEN THE SEC COULD HALT THE TRADING OF THE STOCK VERY EASILY & PUT A STOP TO THE OBVIOUS FRAUD.
IF THIS STORY IS TRUE, THEN WHY HAS PVEC's ATTORNEY & SEC ATTORNEY QUIT?
Anyways, These Toxic Loan Sharks begin Short-selling a company before the ink is even dry on the agreement. Then when it's time to cash in on the CD's The Lender ends up getting 10 times more shares than they normally should have (Because it is based on an average share price).
This is a practice that the SEC has tried to stop UNSUCCESSFULLY! And PVEC appears to be another victim in a long line of companies that signed an agreement for Toxic Financing. Most people really don't know what the word Toxic Financing REALLY Means. I began studying Toxic Finance over a decade ago and I know this inside & out.
Copied Directly from the recently released quarterly financial shows over 2.1 BILLION FREE TRADING SHARES.
Date; 9/30/2013
Nature of offering; Debt Converted to Shares
Registered/Qualified; Reg D/Sec 4(2)
Number of Shares Sold; 2,112,314,080
Price Actually Paid to issuer; 0.000683
Trading Status of Shares; Free Trading
Legend on Certificates; None
Personally I don't believe they are Retiring Anything, I believe they increased the A/S because their DEBTORS (CD HOLDERS) LEGALLY FORCED THEM TO!
They can do that according to terms of the contracts they sign for Toxic Financing, that's exactly why they call it TOXIC Financing, Because it is Toxic to the Stock, it Destroys the PPS and Floods the Market with more shares than there are shareholders to purchase or I should say "THAT WANT TO PURCHASE", Who wants to Invest in a Company that has NO REVENUE, & has to sell shares to pay the Bills? I Studied Toxic Finance, in depth, over a decade ago and know an awful lot about it.
Share Structure from the UNAUDITED Financial (10Q) just released shows the FREE TRADING SHARES (Float) at 2.1 BILLION as of Sept. 30th! Who knows what it is now?
Anyone who knows the Basics of Trading Stocks101, knows that famous quote;
The Past Performance of a Stock is NOT a Predictor of the Future results!
RR, I'm not trying to "Rain on your Parade" but after looking at the UNAUDITED financials that just came out (I was expecting a 10Q which is what they should have filed if they were serious about getting uplisted)
But the fact is that in the Fins, we see that they OUTRIGHT LIED about the Float, they told us it was 750 Million Shares, and the Fins say that as of Sept. 30th there were "2.1 BILLION FREE TRADING SHARES"! That's a Far Cry from 750 Million like they have listed, WHO KNOWS WHAT IT IS NOW?
THE TRUTH ABOUT PVEC LOOK AT THE PPS!
I sure hope you're right, But I doubt this thing is going anywhere. I've averaged down as far as I'm willing to go. I'm not throwing anymore good money after bad in this debacle. The Float had got to be so HUGE by now, getting this to run is like turning the Titanic!
Look at the buyers rollin in unreal buy volume JOKE!
Like I have been saying, HARDLY NOBODY WANTS TO TOUCH THIS STOCK ANYMORE! Every trader I've talked to about this stock wants nothing to do with it.
This stock has developed a reputation for itself as a dilution machine in the eyes of the majority of penny traders, and once your stock is labeled like that, it's very hard to get anyone to come back, because NOBODY BELIEVES ANYTHING THE COMPANY SAYS ANYMORE!
A Company CANNOT continue to LIE to people & think they are going to Invest, Most Penny traders are MUCH Smarter than that.
This is a PR? Is this a Joke? WTF?
Yeah well you can't say that the Company has been straight with it's shareholders about everything either? The 10Q PROVES THAT!!!
Personally, I believe THIS IS WHY WE HAD ALL THAT DUMPING GOING ON YESTERDAY THAT BROUGHT US DOWN TO 0002/0003 THE DAY BEFORE THE Q CAME OUT!
WHAT A COINCIDENCE?
THEY PROB FIGURED THEY MIGHT AS WELL GET THE LAST SHRED OF EQUITY SHAREHOLDERS HAD LEFT BEFORE THE Q CAME OUT, THEY WERE PROBABLY BETTING THAT THE PEOPLE WHO WERE LEFT WOULD START BAILING AFTER READING THAT HORRID MESS.
oh Yeah? Based on what? Is there a Paid Pump Promo going out or something?
Tell me something POSITIVE about PVEC? I'm ALL EARS!
From what I gather, ALL THE PR'S ABOUT ACQUISITIONS, & Revenue from Cruise Ships are ALL BS WHICH WAS CONFIRMED IN THE CONFERENCE CALL TRANSCRIPT! They Basically said "In Short", that all these Deals Fell Apart, SO WHERE IS THERE ANY SOURCE OF REVENUE OTHER THAN SELLING SHARES???
And this Supposed Share BUYBACK? They just raised the A/S again, and according to the 10Q the Previous A/S WAS (almost) FULLY MAXED OUT! So where is the cash coming from to do the buyback?
Personally I don't believe they have bought back ONE SINGLE SHARE! Not anymore, after seeing that they have LIED to us Repeatedly, and now trying to shift the blame of the content of their PR's on to their former IR Firm even shows more outright LYING!
This is Criminal Behavior in my opinion, and for what I have left of my holdings here (lost my ass at this PPS), I would Gladly welcome the SEC to shut them down and INDICT THE LOT OF THEM!
Stopped "TRADING" but didn't Stop "SELLING"!!!
Ship? What Ship? All this Company seems to have is a POS Office, a few computers to post LIES on Message Boards, and a Transfer Agent to print shares. The "SHIP/s" Were only Bait for us Unsuspecting Shareholders to get Fleeced! They don't have any ships or anything to generate any sort of revenue from what I can see.
We've been LIED TO Plain & Simple what good is the website?
Class Action Lawsuit?
Did we break the double bottom support of 0011?
I'm new to this one, just wondering who "YA" is? Anyone?
Huge? 3 R/S's in 15 MONTH's? Look at the track record below!
I was thinking of this stock as a flip play, but after looking at the track record, I think I'll pass on this one. 3 Reverse split's in 15 months is a bit RIDICULOUS! They just did one in Oct. 2013 (2 months ago) and one in May 2013 (7 months ago) UNREAL.
From OTC Markets;
Note = Company delisted from NASDAQ on 09/14/12
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 70 split Ex-date=09/04/2012.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 50 split Ex-date=05/03/2013.
Capital Change=shs decreased by 1 for 20 split. Ex-date=10/16/2013.
http://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/SAPX/company-info
I wasn't questioning you RR, just venting about what I remember reading in the CC.
Didn't they say in the CC that Multiple PR's were going to be released in the "IMMEDIATE FUTURE"? What's up with that now?
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=94911898
IF THEY ARE UPING IT TO OVER 50 STORES THAT IS HUGE!
Just like I posted the Number I called at Walmart Corporate earlier today. This confirms my call to walmart corporate when I spoke with a marketing manager that confirmed that Lean Slow Motion Potion IS Being sold on a trial basis in 23 stores, now over 50? That's even better, they should PR that!
I believe I read on the website forum that the 500Mil that is getting retired now, and the upcoming 250 Mil are NOT coming out of the float but are Restricted Shares that a Lender/s were/are holding.
My guess would be that this is why they had to increase the A/S right now, they are restructuring the debt, and this is how they are getting to the bottom of the fraud, by retiring all the other CD's then reissuing restricted stock, so the fraudsters can be found out by auditing whats left compared to whats been sold on the open market, it's a complex thing to do, I don't understand it all myself, and my post might not be 100% accurate, but that's somewhat how a T/A explained it to me, of how & why they do these types of things.
The fraudsters ultimately will get burned and the stock will have to be reimbursed and/or indictments for criminal charges can actually be brought on the perps.