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i traded half on the double everything else is profit. your town is dying. now if u really cared for the town you'd want to put people to work. 399 properties for sale on realtor.com. , . that's a flight. open your eyeeyes and stop drinking kaitie kool-aide. that light in the distance its not katie saving Berlin, thats the freight train of taxes coming way. EVERYTHING ESLE IS GRAVY PAY YOUR UTILITY BILLS.
it is. berlin now has about 9500 people and has no reason to attract anyone..............yet
i was in berlin a week and a half ago empty store front after empty store front and realtor.com confirms it
berlin's gonna get croaked in taxes, the county tax is going up 18% too, water rates, highest electric bills in the state, We got some townies on the board looking thru the world with rose colored glasses
not sure if i understand your response but my point by posting today's article from the berlin daily sun, is the city is broke and is now begging non-profits for a handout. Too bad they can't get 500 tax paying jobs in the area.
"The letter asks the organizations, which are tax exempt by virtue of their nonprofit status, to consider making a reduced property tax payment to help cover the cost of city services offered to them."
there are 399 properties for sale today on realtor.com
The check's in the mail!!!!!!!
City asked nonprofits to make payment in lieu of taxes
Barbara Tetreault
BERLIN— Seeking help to ease its financial woes, the city is asking nonprofit organizations that own property to make a payment in lieu of taxes.
At its meeting Monday, the city council gave final approval to a letter it will send to over 30 nonprofit organizations ranging from the Androscoggin Valley Hospital to the V.F.W. Post. 2520. The list also includes a dozen religious organizations as well as social service agencies like Tri-County Community Action Program and Coos County Family Health Services.
The letter asks the organizations, which are tax exempt by virtue of their nonprofit status, to consider making a reduced property tax payment to help cover the cost of city services offered to them. Those services include fire protection, police and ambulance service, street maintenance, trash pick-up, and snow removal. The city said it is not asking the organizations to cover the school or other city department costs. The city suggests the nonprofits pay based on a tax rate of $6.92 per thousand dollars of assessed valuation. That is about 23 percent of the full property tax rate.
One of the most property poor communities in the state, the city said it is facing increased costs at a time when revenues are declining. It notes there is approximately $42 million of tax exempt property in Berlin or about six percent of the total property base.
The city acknowledges the contributions made by the nonprofit organizations which the letter notes “increase the quality of life for many of our Berlin residents’. The city also concedes that many of the organizations are struggling financially.
The council Monday removed from the list the Coos County nursing home since any payment is passed on to the communities including the city. Also removed were the federal Bureau of Prisons and the state Department of Corrections since the city actively solicited the two prisons.
Councilor David Poulin said he thought it would be more effective if the city manager met individually with the nonprofit agencies and asked for a payment in lieu of taxes.
“This to me would deserve a visit,” he said.
But the rest of the council thought the letter would be sufficient. Several councilors said they thought the city was not likely to see a large response from the solicitation. Noting the issue has been discussed for several months now, Mayor David Bertrand said he wanted the issue resolved so the council could move on to other issues.
The letter will specific what the individual agency would pay, based on its current assessment, if it complied with the city’s request.
yea sure!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
http://www.realtor.com/options/interimsearch.aspx?ctid=82724&typ=7
REALTOR.COM There are 401 available Berlin, NH Real Estate Listings and Homes for Sale
thats called a flight
Dont choke on the BS or drown on the kool-aide. Peek at posting history. good night all
are you for real???????????
Stay in the north conway grand hotel this weekend just so i could make the trip. Berlin reminded me of Lawerence Ma. too bad, its one beautiful place. i dont plan on going up for at least another month.
normally i'd wish you a happy birthday but u've been posting for 3 days. last time you showed up LLEG hit .0002. Over 10% of the town is up for sale, population has dropped 3% in just a few years and the crime rate has doubled. Who's paying for the police fire and teachers? Let us know how the 18% county tax rate increase works out, please keep us infomed.
gorham nh (next town over) http://www.gorhamnh.org/index.html
3k people in town and 250 employees loosing their jobs
http://www.marketwire.com/mw/release.do?id=583425
if i lived up there, you can bet i'd be looking for a job instead of wasting my time on a message board. the soup kitchen's gonna be packed so they're gonna need some help
with 304 properties listed on realtor.com thats over 10% of housing up for sale
http://www.berlinnh.gov/Pages/BerlinNH_WebDocs/demo
thats called a flight.
who picks up the tax rate?
if i wanted to become a slum lord i'd be buying property up left and right up there, but who would i rent to? Berlin Ford must have had 500 new trucks on its lot(located in Gorham) and john deer right next door was full too. You can bet your arse i'm gonna watch realtor dot com. Remax on main street had 3 stacks of properties for sale
hey all, was in berlin nh this weekend. i noticed empty store front after empty store front on main st. this town needs this plant and now. With a population of 9900 july '06. Today on realtor.com, there are 304 properties for sale in berlin from single to multies. Gorham, the next town over, just in the past two weeks announced and other paper mill going under. The town is hurting bad. They need this to happen or every piece of property is going to be worthless. They're paying the highest utility rates in the state and taxes arent too far behind and no jobs.
.33!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
100,000 freebies here now gimme a buck!!!!!!!!
.31!!!!!!!!!
WOOOOOOO HOOOOOO MY PANTS ARE TIGHT!!!!!!! GO CPRK!!!!!
didnt get to finish...........
from the ihub cprk pg and pr's
It is estimated that with current proven reserves WUCC could process 2400 tons or ore per day for approximately 10 years producing almost $282,100 per day of revenue
so hes gonna work utah then vacation in the dominican
Wilf's from Utah. copper and minerals down the street http://www.nymex.com/index.aspx hes gonna vacation in the carib and will continue to look for the minnow
http://www.sec.gov/complaint/selectconduct.shtml flood em with complaints
Wilf's gonna be busy........
CPRK http://www.thecopperkings.com/?page_id=2
gobbled up the weak hands GO CPRK!!!!!!!
i guess the gold panning bean eating mantryst is going to be a hoot!!!!!!!!!
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free since .026 :)
life is good.
RIDING MY FREEBIES BABY!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Planning board approves mill property boundary adjustment
Barbara Tetreault
BERLIN— The planning board Thursday night approved North American Dismantling’s application to adjust the boundary lines for the former pulp mill property.
The meeting drew a large crowd of both supporters and opponents of a proposal to convert the chemical recovery boiler on the property into a biomass plant.
The property was divided into two lots - a small 1-acre piece and the remaining 139-acre parcel. NAD submitted an application to adjust the boundary lines to create two parcels that would be 62 acres and 78 acres in size. NAD has an agreement to sell the 62-acre parcel with the boiler, scale house, and wastewater treatment facility to Laidlaw Energy LLC. Laidlaw wants to convert the boiler into a 60-megawatt biomass plant.
Terry Block of the Citizens for a New Vision argued the scope of the request exceeded a simple boundary or lot line adjustment. He pointed out NAD was seeking to increase the size of the one acre parcel to 62 times its original size. He said one might not even be able to see the old boundary when standing on the new property line.
“This will completely change the character of the former mill site and everyone knows the reason why,” Block said. “If we wait for the site review process to start raising questions, I fear it’ll be far too late.”
Representing NAD, surveyor Burke York sought to rebut Block’s argument. He said the issue before the planning board was limited to adjusting the boundary lines and not future use of the property. He said there were currently two lots and there would still be two lots if the application was approved. York said increasing the size of the smaller parcel should reduce any impacts to abutters by providing more of a buffer.
City Councilor Paul Grenier agreed with York. Grenier said he had researched the law and concluded the planning board’s authority was limited. He said state regulations do not allow the board to consider future plans for the property under a lot or boundary line adjustment application. He said Laidlaw’s plans for a biomass plant on the property could not be considered by the board.
“This is not a battle for tonight,” he said.
Ed Foley, business agent for the N.H. Building Trades Council, said his members support the lot line adjustment because it would create jobs. He noted that about 30 members of the union were in attendance. Several members individually spoke in favor of the biomass project, saying the region needs the jobs it would create.
Local business owner and realtor Jonathan Edward said he believed NAD was really subdividing the property. He said the board should look at the future use of the property and the impacts of that use on the city’s tax base and adjoining property values.
NAD Attorney Jack Crisp said his client feels the two parcels are suitable for industrial development and the size of the parcels provides appropriate buffers for adjoining properties.
Attorney Peter Bornstein called the adjustment a major division of a large parcel in the heart of the downtown. He urged the planning board to get input from the city attorney on what it can consider.
Businessman Barry Kelley said the applicant is only seeking to continue the traditional use of what is an industrial property.
“There are two lots there and there will continue to be two lots there,” he said.
Incoming City Councilor Attorney Thomas McCue said he questions whether the biomass plant will ever get to the site plan review stage. He said his concern is the project will not come to fruition and five years from now the boiler will simply be an eyesore sitting unused on the parcel.
Edwards agreed, noting Laidlaw has not filed an interconnection application to get on the transmission grid which can not handle the projects already filed for consideration.
Robert Roderigue of Berlin said industrial parks do not belong in the heart of the city.
“I don’t see it as an eyesore. I see it as money,” countered Larry Roy of Berlin.
Crisp said reminded the crowd that North American Dismantling is in the dismantling and salvage business. He said if the boiler is not sold within a period of time, his client will tear it down and salvage it.
City Planner Pamela Laflamme said the board had an opinion from the city attorney that the application meet the criteria of a boundary line adjustment. She said the two parcels that would be created are both of buildable size and conform to the city’s zoning ordinance. She said the board can talk about future use of the site but that issue can not be used as the basis for it’s decision.
Board Chair Fran Cusson suggested the board table the issue until the February meeting to allow the board to review the testimony. But board member Lucien Langlois disagreed with postponing the vote. He said the issue before the board was fairly black and white.
Langlois moved the board approve the application, conditional on making sure the utilities are identified on the map. The board approved it unanimously.
crawl back under your rock, its safer there
Friday, January 11 2008 10:04 AM, EST
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Berlin, NH Planning Board Approves Subdivision of Former Mill Site Paving Way for Laidlaw Biomass Energy Plant
Business Wire "US Press Releases "
BERLIN, N.H.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--
Laidlaw Berlin, LLC, an affiliate of Laidlaw Energy Group, Inc. (Ticker Symbol "LLEG"), announced today that last evening the city of Berlin, NH Planning Board unanimously approved the subdivision of the former Fraser Paper pulp mill site, significantly boosting the prospects for Laidlaw's proposed 65 megawatt biomass energy facility which Laidlaw intends to build at the site. The approval, which was a major condition of the closing of the acquisition of the site by Laidlaw from the seller, North American Dismantling Corp ("NADC"), paves the way for Laidlaw and NADC to imminently execute the definitive purchase agreement for the site and the assets and move forward with the transaction.
Commenting on the approval, Laidlaw President & CEO Michael B. Bartoszek stated, "We are pleased with the unanimous decision from the Berlin Planning Board as well as the significant support from the numerous residents and other interested parties that attended the meeting to support the project. We look forward to expeditiously moving forward with this transaction and the project."
About the Berlin, NH Biomass-Energy Project
The Berlin project involves the conversion of the former Fraser Paper pulp mill site into a highly advanced biomass-to-energy project that is expected to export approximately 60 megawatts of renewable energy to the New England power grid and utilize about 750,000 tons of clean wood biomass chips per annum. The project involves a capital investment of approximately $65 million by Laidlaw and its partners and lenders and is expected to employ 40 directly and create over 500 indirect jobs. Once completed, the plant is expected to be among the largest and most environmentally advanced biomass-energy plants in North America.
yep and off the Billery primary win in NH
Laidlaw Energy Files $10 Million Federal Lawsuit Against Town of Ellicottville, NY; Seeks Judgment to Operate Cogeneration FacilityLast update: 1/9/2008 9:40:01 AMNEW YORK, Jan 09, 2008 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- Laidlaw Energy & Environmental, Inc., an affiliate of Laidlaw Energy Group, Inc. (Pink Sheets: LLEG) announced today that it has filed a lawsuit against the Town of Ellicottville, New York, with the U.S. District Court for the Western District of New York. The lawsuit seeks, among other relief, $10 million in monetary damages, a declaratory judgment that Laidlaw is entitled to continue operating its Ellicottville cogeneration facility, an order declaring the Town's denial of Laidlaw's application for a Modified Site Plan Approval is unconstitutional and/or otherwise illegal and void, and directing the Town to approve said application, and an award of Laidlaw's attorney's fees and other costs incurred in prosecuting the lawsuit.
i got my 100k up for a buck :)
Foil before every game!
(took it down old info)
one of the pros for these plants is heating for local residents as in concord nh. concord has a plant that provides heat to area residents.
electrical infratstrucure up there has to be redone. the federal prison up there is gobbling up a lot of energy. the state doesnt want to put the burden on the people to do it. There are other project up there for renewal energy up the such as Noble wind but with wind you get a few construction jobs. When done you get a guy with an oil can to climb a ladder and oil the berrings. this plant is in everyones best interest. going up north in 2 weeks and will poke around for myself
past issues in berlin daily sun
there's another company looking to set up shop in berlin, a wood chip plant, fwiw a german co i think