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Regardless, I'm pretty sure INTL and/or PUMA will ensure we remain below 05 and stuck in the same channel we've been in. Truthfully, I was expecting to see ASCM jump back in the mix as well, as I believe they still have some covering to do from Monday, but they haven't joined the limited action just yet....
LOL... Bonnie, I gave you an answer and you disagreed with it. No cop out, just no need to waste time with you talking in circles. As I've explained in prior posts, you ask a question, and when I answer that question you begin debating it against something else, not the original question. In other words, having a conversation with you on this board is sometimes the equivalent of using a treadmill to run to the store. No end in sight and just goes on and on and on and on and etc....
Lastly, don't put words in my mouth, as I've never blamed the pps pattern on Charles. I've simply stated that the pattern won't change until Charles "removes the muzzle" and delivers something major/tangible to change it, and I still stand by that. Now, I don't believe he will deliver anything like that prior to going SEC Reporting, so at the end of the day that is what I'm waiting on. You are welcome to disagree with me, but that will not change my view or posts.
As always I can see where this is going (circular conversation), and I’m just not going to waste time repeating myself.
Have a good night Bonnie…
Because If it weren’t true, NDAs would be pointless/useless for any/all companies who are SEC Reporting; and we know that’s not the case….
That’s incorrect Bonnie. Regardless of SEC reporting or alternative reporting, any info protected by NDA, remains protected by NDA. In other words, Charles sitting on SEC reporting is not related to NDAs.
Unfortunately Dusty, I don't believe it is. When we're hit with "volume before price," it will be unmistakable and the pps will be moving up fairly quick.
What we're watching today is the same thing we watch after almost every day following a PR. They pushed the pps up to it's highest point yesterday, right at the open, followed by shorting shares as they pushed it down then sideways-down, the remainder of the day (ASCM). Then this morning, they hit us with a cliff-drop right out of the gate, and immediately stacked against 05 to hold it under, allowing them to cover on the cheap.
We'll see what happens over the next couple of hours, but based on history, I'm expecting to see them push us down between .046-.048 around 2:30ish and hold us there for another LOD close... Hope I'm wrong...
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Today's action really shouldn't have come as a shocker to anyone who's been here for at least 1.5+ years. The pattern does not and has not lied since it began. The day following a PR is typically kicked off with one of those "cliff-drop-takedowns," followed by locking in place the desired artificial ceiling (in this case .05) as shown in mini-chart below. Never fails...
In addtion, we now have INTL dumping unlimited shares via one of their magical 10K asks, as well as PUMA back in the mix after their 1+ week vacation.
With everything going on here and/or everything we're speculating is going on behind the scenes, my # 1 concern remains "why Charles is still sitting on SEC Reporting?"
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Re: docsetc post# 173709 Monday, April 17, 2023 4:04:23 PM
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Yeah, they’ve become more predictable than any stock I’ve ever traded, and unfortunately as expected, we are still stuck in “the pattern.” They’ll likely take us back under 05 tomorrow, and we’ll continue the wash+rinse+repeat…. Maybe one of these days before we die of old age, Charles will move to SEC reporting and uplist, but I’m not gonna hold my breath…
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Re: Dusty18 post# 173681 Monday, April 17, 2023 12:06:42 PM
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I like seeing the green too Dusty, but unfortunately I believe it's artificial. Notice who's controlled the pps all morning (ASCM+VERT+PUMA+INTL). If I had to guess, I'd say we close under .0545 today, then tomorrow we see the typical "day after PR-takedown" & erase of today's green, pushing us right back into the artificial .045-.049 channel.
I know many think I'm being a bear when I say that, but I'm not. Our history over the past 2+ years has been extremely cyclical/predictable, and the pattern has yet to break. We need to break above .065 and hold it, to put a crack in the pattern; and then we need to break .079 and stay above. Once that happens, we could finally be on our way to breaking free. In the meantime, I don't believe any green will be sustainable until Charles stops sitting on SEC Reporting, but hoping that I'm wrong and he surprises all of us...
Good Morning ENZC! I'm pretty confident that they'll drive us back under 05 prior to closing today, as I'm sure ASCM & VERT likely need to cover everything they shorted yesterday. We just got hit with our typical "day after PR Cliff-Drop," and when I look at yesterday's chart & action, it tells me they (VERT+ASCM) began shorting it first thing yesterday morning, then spent the rest of the day holding/pushing down, & closing us at the low of day (setup for today, so they can finish covering). More than likely they'll drop the ask under 05, then immediately stack it, and "just like that," any/all green erased again....
4/18 Opening Cliff Drop
Anyway, I'm not sure how low into the 04's they'll drive us today, but I think a good guess would be right back to artificial 045-.049 channel that we've been held in for so long. Just watch VERT & ASCM. They'll keep dropping the ask lower and lower and lower..etc... until they get to what they consider an acceptable "covering-range."
We need that SEC reporting, but not surprising that Charles continued sitting on it.
Yesterday (4/17) Simple-Chart
Yeah, they’ve become more predictable than any stock I’ve ever traded, and unfortunately as expected, we are still stuck in “the pattern.” They’ll likely take us back under 05 tomorrow, and we’ll continue the wash+rinse+repeat…. Maybe one of these days before we die of old age, Charles will move to SEC reporting and uplist, but I’m not gonna hold my breath…
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I like seeing the green too Dusty, but unfortunately I believe it's artificial. Notice who's controlled the pps all morning (ASCM+VERT+PUMA+INTL). If I had to guess, I'd say we close under .0545 today, then tomorrow we see the typical "day after PR-takedown" & erase of today's green, pushing us right back into the artificial .045-.049 channel.
I know many think I'm being a bear when I say that, but I'm not. Our history over the past 2+ years has been extremely cyclical/predictable, and the pattern has yet to break. We need to break above .065 and hold it, to put a crack in the pattern; and then we need to break .079 and stay above. Once that happens, we could finally be on our way to breaking free. In the meantime, I don't believe any green will be sustainable until Charles stops sitting on SEC Reporting, but hoping that I'm wrong and he surprises all of us...
phrocks, no disrespect, but when "volume before price" hits us, we'll know it. This isn't that. This is just increased volume due to today's PR, and a lot of today's volume is due to ASCM + VERT+OTCX games. Anytime we get a PR, ASCM shows up to short it, but with today's PR, for some reason we get VERT+OTCX games as well.
That said, we absolutely have some retail volume mixed in today, but watching L2 I believe that VERT+ASCM+OTCX are responsible for the bulk of today's volume.
"Volume before price" will come out of nowhere, with no PR, and when it does, we will be moving up all day long. Lastly, when true "volume before price" hits us, the highest ask showing on L2 will certainly be much higher than .0775...
rockie - Correct that today's news has nothing to do with the audit, but the audit is/was not due. The purpose of the 2yr audit was so ENZC could move from Alternative to SEC Reporting, as well as uplist. The audit was completed back in December 2022, but still not disclosed to shareholders, nor has it been used to move to SEC Reporting/uplist. Once Charles stops sitting on the move to SEC Reporting, we'll start seeing the quarterlies filed via 10Q's, and annual's filed via 10K's. Also, we'll start seeing 8k's for any/all material events.
The Annual fins are what was due today. The annual report was dropped yesterday (link here: https://www.otcmarkets.com/stock/ENZC/disclosure)
No I missed it, but it happens all the time. Most of the time it's just a glitch (Trades moving faster than L2 updating), but there are times when it's not a glitch (I showed one the other day when INTL dropped the ask to .0488, but selling shares at .049).
The way to see if it's a glitch or not is by having L2 on more than one platform (iHub, eTrade, Fidelity, etc..). If eTrade is showing 1 pps and iHub is showing another, it's likely a glitch in the iHub L2....
That said, whenever I see VERT & ASCM active, we can expect non-stop games/control all day long; and in our case here today, we not only have both of them, we also have PUMA, INTL, OTCX, & JANE. Lastly, the highest ask is still sitting at .0775, so I'm not expecting today to turn into much of anything, and "if" we do close out above 05/green, we'll likely be pushed back to the artificial .045-.049 channel tomorrow. People seem to be excited about today's PR, myself included, but we still need Charles to stop sitting on SEC reporting before we see any real/major/sustainable increases in pps.
We got a PR today, so we should've known that ASCM would show up to the party. Seems they're synced up with VERT. ASCM buys shares on bid at .0545, then immediately turns around drops the ask to 0545 to sell it back down. While I do like the 6M shares traded in the first 13 minutes today, I am still expecting to see ASCM+VERT games all day, not to mention that PUMA is back & active again....
Truthfully, it appears that we have several "non-retail" MM's (VERT, OTCX, ASCM, PUMA) very active today, so at the very least we should see some interesting action today. I don't believe VERT will allow this to stay above .0545, but hopefully I'm wrong....
Good Morning. Odd L2 setup this morning with an early T-Trade to boot..... Could be another head fake or maybe it's for real this time? One thing is for sure, seeing VERT on top of the bid tells me to expect games today, but I'm just not sure to the extent of them. Will they give it "their all" to maintain the artificial 049 ceiling, or will we finally break out of the artificial channel? 6MM's (Non-Retail) on the ask side all lined up .0775, which looks good ,but likely just a head fake.... Guess we'll see in another 12 minutes...
In regards to some of the posts I've read this morning pertaining to the PR, anyone who's been here long enough knows that our future is and always has been that of Clone 3, coupled with the AI platform. Both ITV1 & IPF were just bonuses. It's always been about Clone 3, which is also why we haven't seen/heard anything about Clone 3 in a very long time (NDA's).
rockie - If there is one thing that volume has told us lately, it is that retail longs are NOT selling. Maybe a few shares here/there, but nothing significant, and regardless of what is/is not given to us with the annual fins, I don't believe that will change. "SMART" people don't hold for 2-3+ years, only to dump at the severely & intentionally undervalued channel that they've been holding us in over the past 6-12 months... I don't pretend to know "the why" behind all of the games and/or the hold, but I do believe I can say with high degree of certainty that whatever it is, part of it includes forcing retail sellers to jump their lowball asks to give their shares up on the cheap and/or on the cheaper....
That said, if the annual fins come & go and Charles continues sitting on the move to SEC reporting, it wouldn't surprise me to see some non-retail MM's use it as ammo for another shakedown, but I doubt it would last. It would be one of those quick/violent drops to shake what they can, but then likely take it right back up to the same channel they've held us in for what feels like ever now. I could be wrong, but I believe taking it too much lower would have the opposite effect of what they want. Certain MM's are accumulating shares in a very specific channel/range for somebody/some client, and currently they have next to nothing in competition for those shares. If they push us too low, that will change and the competition for those shares will increase exponentially, which I don't believe they want to see.
I gave you my thoughts yesterday, but I am hoping for the best; or at least hoping more than anything to see Charles finally make the change to SEC Reporting this upcoming week. However, I have learned over the past 3+ years NOT to get my hopes up. We'll see soon enough.
Have a Great Weekend!
PUMA's still visible on L2, but has been inactive for the week. INTL has taken their place, which still isn't making any sense to me.
You were here Catpole when INTL was buying, so do you have any thoughts as to why they are selling everything between a 3-10X loss (almost all shares purchased between .12-.29)? Just seems off... Honestly it seems like they're just trying to push this down. Anytime their ask is (would be) knocked out after being hit, they just drop it further instead of moving up. Perfect example below. 0479 ask hit for 2X their ask, so they drop it to 0477?
Here's my take rockie:
1. "IF" we see the annual fins today, it will be after hours and there certainly won't be anything major/significant in them.
2. We'll start kicking the can to next quarterlies. However, need to factor in "the Charles Extension," so we're looking at 5/20, not 5/15
3. INTL has taken over PUMA's role, and holding this under the artificial 049 ceiling, and trying to keep it under .048, possibly even lower. I'm still trying to figure out what they're doing. Almost all of their shares were purchased between .12 - .29, so they are taking a huge loss on all of the 04's they're selling. Also, let's not forget that they dumped between 45-60Million shares in the 04's back in December (multi-million dollar loss on that one). Why? What is the purpose?
4. Charles silence/muzzle-status will continue. Like I've stated several times, my #1 worry is "Why does he continue sitting on SEC Reporting." I can deal with never ending delays, intentional holds/manipulation, muzzle, etc...., but Charles sitting on SEC Reporting, coupled with the unexplained 900M AS increase, makes me the most uncomfortable.
In other words, if you put the above together, I'm expecting to be disappointed in typical ENZC fashion. If/when the time comes that muzzle-status is ending and/or Charles is finally going to deliver something for shareholders (retail common shareholders), we will know it in advance based on the trading/volume/pps appreciation. Unfortunately, not looking good for that to be today and/or Monday. I hope/pray that I am wrong and we are all surprised beyond belief, but I'm not holding my breath.
I hope/pray that is not the case rockie, but the longer he sits on SEC Reporting, the more worrisome it becomes to me too...
All I can say is that:
- The price was illegally pushed & held under .10 without objection from CC & Co. for a reason.
- Charles is sitting on SEC Reporting for a reason
- Charles is sitting on the 2yr audit for a reason
- They are holding us in this intentionally undervalued channel for a reason
- We were intentionally taken down with every piece of good news/PR for 2 years now, and again without a peep or any objection from CC & Co.
The big question to all of them is "Why?" Something is certainly going on, but they've been keeping whatever it is from retail for several years now...
Well, I think today pretty much solidifies that Charles is not going to give us anything tangible/significant with the fins... It's hard to believe that we are already 4.5 months into 2023 and still experiencing the same pattern and still being held in this ridiculously and intentionally undervalued channel... Between VIRT+OTCX, PAUL, PUMA, & INTL, this stock has been under some of the tightest control for roughly 1.5-2+ years, without so much as a peep from those who are supposed to be watching out for shareholders. As soon as one of them is finished and moves inactive, the next pops up and takes control. PUMA went on vacation several days ago, so INTL jumped up to take their place, maintaining the artificial .049 ceiling and lowering it every chance they get (yes I know volume is non-existent, but look at yesterday when INTL was holding the ask at .0488, but all shares were being sold at .049. I know it's not a big difference, but still should not be happening). Doesn't matter if and/or how many times the ask is hit, because they can hold indefinitely as long as they like, with no repercussions, and obviously never a peep from the company.
Seriously, all joking aside, at what point do we see the 2yr audit? At what point do they follow thru on SEC Reporting? When does the hold/pattern end? When does the 2+ year muzzle come off? I can't speak for anyone else, but I can say that I personally was really hoping that this would be it, and we'd finally get some of the much needed information with the annual fins, but once again it's not looking good for retail and I'm sure they'll kick the can to the next quarterly.... I was also hoping that Chandra would finally hit one of his public predictions (monumental shift in 6-12 months), but based on current volume & pattern, it's all but a certainty that his 0-batting average will continue.... I really hope that us longs don't die of old age before muzzle-status ends.
I guess we wait to see how low they drop the artificial ceiling today. Will they keep in the same .045-.049 range, or will they push lower based on what's coming and/or isn't coming?
Hope all goes well for ya Catpole & will keep you and your family in our prayers…
Also, funny how shares are being sold at 049 when INTL has a .0488 ask? I thought it was a glitch in ihub L2, but nope. Fidelity also showing .0488 ask, yet .049's are being sold.... The 2 images below are in order of earliest to most recent. So the second snippet was taken after the first. (You can see in the trades pannel on the right the 049's sold, while INTL has the lowest ask at .0488). 3rd snippet just shows Fidelity showing the same lowest .0488 ask.
LOL... It is literally impossible to be more predictable then what those in control of this stock have been.... Hit 049 ask and INTL immediately jumps up to undercut it. Like I said, they can't allow it to breach/stay above the artificial 049 ceiling. The question is: "Why?"
One thing is for sure, we should already be way beyond the .049 artificial ceiling, but at least for now it appears that will continue to be held/locked; and if by some miracle we begin to approach it again today, I'm confident that INTL will immediately undercut to hold it. Hope I'm wrong, and as always, we shall see soon enough...
Hopefully I'm wrong buford78, but the closer we get to due date with same pattern and volume, the less likely it becomes. However, my guess/predictions are based solely on trading/patterns/CC History, so who knows.
That said, if the partnerships are covered by NDA's, he would still be able to keep them hidden, regardless of SEC or Alternative Reporting. I'm good with everything, except sitting on SEC reporting, as I've mentioned in the past. That, coupled with the "no-explanation-900M AS increase," are the two that as a "retail-commons-holder," impact my "comfort-level" the most. However, nothing we can do except what we've done for 2+ years now (Hurry Up & Wait), so I guess I'll continue down that path...LOL...
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Honestly rockie, I just think it means what I stated earlier. We have more of the same to look forward to... I not only believe that Charles will maintain his muzzle-status with these upcoming fins, I also believe he'll continue sitting on the 2yr audit, as well as the reason for the 900M AS increase, and even more importantly, the move to SEC Reporting (still my biggest question mark/worry at this point)
We should be seeing "volume before price," by now, if anything tangible/significant/major was around the corner (Friday-Monday). One thing is for sure, we should already be way beyond the .049 artificial ceiling, but at least for now it appears that will continue to be held/locked; and if by some miracle we begin to approach it again today, I'm confident that INTL will immediately undercut to hold it. Hope I'm wrong, and as always, we shall see soon enough...
Looks like just another day of "more of the same." May allow it to hit the artificial .049 ceiling for a few minutes this morning, but then of course push it back under & hold it by afternoon. Like I said yesterday, anyone expecting actual tangible major news/events from the fins, I wouldn't get your hopes up. At this point, based on volume/buying, I'm beginning to question whether or not Charles will intentionally hold the fins longer than the extension. If something "real" / "tangible" / "major" was coming by 4/14 or even by 4/17, it should start reflecting in the buying/volume, which it just isn't doing. At least not yet....
I would love to be wrong about this, but until I see some kind of indicator that they're removing the chokehold and/or a break in the pattern, I expect nothing more than what we've experienced for 2+ years straight now.... For example, take a look at the first image, and then the second, and noticed that INTL+JANE once again in perfect sync dropping their asks to .0491 at the exact same millisecond. We still have no idea why Charles continues sitting on the 2yr audit, and more importantly, SEC Reporting. Also, even stranger is that we have yet to see/hear anything pertaining tor the 900M AS increase?
LOL... Well, they finally got that bid out of the way, so I imagine that we'll see our "2:30 Takedown" now.... Likely a push towards towards .045, and probably close us around .045-.0465. Like I mentioned earlier, I hate to say it, but this trading/action does not give me confidence that Charles is actually going to stop sitting on SEC Reporting and/or give us anything significant with the fins.
And there's INTL. Even with low volume, the pattern remains predictable. Their 0489's get knocked out, so they drop to .0485. Goal is to hold under .049 at all costs...
We'll see what it does, but when I see the current premarket setup, it makes believe they're going to attempt to hold this under .049 all day.
One thing I have noticed over the past couple of trading days is that PUMA seems to have become inactive. If we break .049, I'll be curious to see if they (PUMA) and/or INTL immediately jump up to prevent the 05 break, but at least for now PUMA has remained inactive for a couple of days.... Some may not see this as significant, but after 6+ months of complete control, I do find it significant. Not sure what it means, but definitely something to watch... (Although INTL + JANE both dropping their bids to .0497 in perfect sync, seem to be ensuring we don't get too close the 05 break)
I think that may be mistafixits bid from the last week that never filled.... Was there yesterday too....
I hate to say it, but anyone expecting earth shattering news by Friday 4/14 or even Monday 4/17, it's not looking very promising based on trading so far this week. We'll see what it does, but when I see the current premarket setup, it makes believe they're going to attempt to hold this under .049 all day. Currently showing a 7.5% opening spread as well... Just dropped highest bid down to .045. Hope I'm wrong....
Let's see what happens, but if anything major was coming, I personally would expect to see the pps begin appreciating, as well as volume increasing substantially, several days in advance, which we're just not seeing. We're still lucky to trade 1-2M shares per day right now, which is not typical of something major coming very soon. Anyway, we'll see what they do, but I personally would feel much better if Charles would stop sitting on the SEC Reporting. I believe we need that more than anything right now.
If no fins are dropped in time, OTCM will move us to a yield sign, then eventually to the "stop" sign, where several platforms won't trade the stock (still be able sell, but won't be able to buy).... I personally believe we'll see them in time though....
Agreed, but as I've stated before, I don't believe the extension has anything to do with not having the fins ready to file. I very strongly believe it has more to do with strategy/buying time for something, but that's just me.... We shall see soon enough (hopefully)....
be nice if Charles doesn't use all the extension days.