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When the stock is up it’s not real it fake news. But when it goes down all is right with the world and it must be Emil scamming the shareholders. Toxic this, scam that, MM manipulation...the same old tired worn out stuff.
If investors in VPLM drive prices up by over 100% in the last 10 days on NO company news, where do we think it can go with any positive court or PTAB rulings?
We have the exact same thoughts here. In the event we lose, no biggie. It’s 1x down as DB says BUT if either scenario you presented comes true, I’m out and can retire very, very, very comfortably 18 years earlier than planned! Win - win!
Oh and BTW, if the stock price goes up with no increase in shares outstanding, the company valuation goes up...which is good. Again, why would any BOD want to dilute their own value?
Doubtful! Why would it be in the company’s best interest to dilute the value of their own stock?
Agreed!
Again, if Apple’s ACTUAL acquisitions are not considered material events, then VPLM deciding NOT to sell only a portion of their business IS NOT a material event!
VPLM put out a PR to announce their declination decision whereas APPLE doesn’t announce any merger/acquisition or offers. I’m not making this up, Tim Cook said it himself!
Not sure it’s all day traders. I know many who have double pretty significant position at the low numbers as well and can’t get any more cheap shares. The MM’s see demand and raise the prices.
Guessing there is still a long way to go...not sure how long it will take to get there but we have lots of headroom here.
If the PPS ran up to $ 0.45 after the last IPR 6 FWD wins & 2 denied institutions, where can it go when the current 3 IPR decisions go for VPLM? Based on the PTAB timelines, the denial/institute decision should be in late Nov or early Dec. Just envision the day when VPLM goes 9-0 at the PTAB. IF that happens, we could easily blow by the previous $ 0.45 share price!
GLTA Longs!
Apparently it’s not easy stuff because some can’t seem to get what the SEC defines as a “material event” for an 8-K filing even after I’ve posted a link to the SEC list of requirements.
Again, everyone is entitled to their own opinions & beliefs, but not their own FACTS! Can’t just make up your own “facts” to fit your narrative about VPLM.
The definition of “material events” doesn’t change because of the market valuation of the company. While the MAGNITUDE of the event may vary before it becomes material, the definition does not change!
BTW - here’s what the SEC considers material events!
https://www.investor.gov/additional-resources/news-alerts/alerts-bulletins/how-read-8-k
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A multi billion dollar company, that at one point was worth a trillion dollars has a duty to share holders and their BOD, their definition of material events is far greater than a penny stock scam where the ceo was “offered” $150m for his shares, he has controlling interest correct? Hence the anti dilution clause so he always maintains control, correct? Shouldn’t shareholders be privy to that information?
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You’re conflating 2 different issues using flawed logic.
On one hand, your saying Emil has and will always maintain majority control of VPLM, through the anti-dilution clause, which is true...unless he sells the company.
If a change in control agreement were to be executed, this becomes a material event triggering a SEC reporting requirement.
On the other hand, you profess shareholders should be “privy” to inside information, which is false. The offer, which was most likely covered by a non-disclosure agreement, may or may not ever be executed. Making shareholders “privy” to company info is done through press releases...which many here claim are just to pump up the shares price. Imagine the screaming if VPLM did put out a PR on the deal and the price jumped then tanked when the declination decision was made!
SEC reporting and company press releases are not the same thing. One is a statutory requirement to remain compliant with the law and the other is public relations/marketing! Two totally different things.
But hey, no big deal, Apple doesn’t announce or disclose actual acquisitions either and they’re a multi-billion & allegedly “fully transparent” company!
There was NO change in control to report...there was NO deal!
If Emil AGREED to sell his shares, then yes, they would have had to file an 8-K upon agreeing to the deal. Nothing needs to be filed UNTIL there is a deal agreed to be executed! Look up the SEC reporting rules yourself. If there is no agreement, there is no deal and there would be no “material” impact to the actual company financials.
No deal was ever consummated! Emil refuses the offer! OMFG!
Here’s another little gem about Apple’s “full (cough-cough-cough)transparency”. And this one is from a pro-Apple website!
“Apple is notoriously quiet about its acquisitions, especially when it comes to smaller companies and startups. While Cook didn’t give anything anyway in relation to the types of companies Apple has recently acquired, he did share that it has purchased up to 25 in just the last six months.”
Source: https://9to5mac.com/2019/05/06/tim-cook-apple-acquired-companies/
Apple is completely transparent. Hahahahaha...that’s a good one!
Read this “material event” for yourself then show us where Apple disclosed their offer in an 8-K, or any other SEC filing PRIOR to consummating the deal!
From Financial Times article “Apple buys UK visual effects company iKinema”
Published October 4, 2019
Excerpt...
“Apple buys smaller companies from time to time, and we generally don’t discuss our purpose or plans,” Apple said, a statement it uses to confirm acquisitions.
In recent years, Apple has made several small acquisitions of AR companies to build or bolster its ARKit platform, including Metaio, Flyby Media, Emotient and Faceshift, as well as several start-ups that could provide components for a future AR headset, such as Akonia Holographics, Vrvana and SensoMotoric Instruments.
iKinema might help iPhone app developers to build more sophisticated games or allow Apple to add arms and legs to its animated emoji faces, which were introduced alongside the iPhone X in 2017.
Apple news site MacRumors was first to report the possibility of an acquisition, after noticing updates to UK regulatory filings that linked iKinema with Apple. Companies House filings also show that iKinema had 20 employees as of last year.
The terms of the acquisition were not disclosed.”
Source: https://www.ft.com/content/641c36c6-e6ab-11e9-9743-db5a370481bc
Dude, you’re wrong. So by your definition of “material event” Apple, Amazon, Google, & Facebook should have filed 8 K’s for POTENTIAL ACQUISITION they made but never went through? Check their 8Ks, bet you don’t find any declined mergers / acquisitions listed in any of them.
Please explain to us why you think a declined deal must be reported on an 8K report.
Worked fine for me.
You understanding is absolutely wrong! There was no change in control so there was nothing REQUIRED to be filed in an 8K! This point has been covered ad nauseam here!
Still open bid for 900,000 shares.
My mistake...the transaction was at 9:22 am.
The bid is still open and infilled at .0165. Not sure how the whopping 1512 shares traded at .0132 when it was way below the bid at that time 9:32 am.
Found it. It looks like it’s just a joint stipulation to modify the case schedule due to Koh changing the Claim Construction hearing from Sept to Oct. Since one date in the schedule changed, they wanted an update to the whole case schedule. Nothing earth shattering as it seems like normal case management.
I’d be curious to see if you can find it on Pacer. I’m not seeing it either.
No big deal. When it gets there, it will be a flash in the pan because it will blow right past it. May even be a gap day...with any luck it will go from 0.019 to 0.03 overnight.
I was thinking the same exact thing about an hour ago. I think there’s a lot of room yet to go.
Is there a point or perspective you’re trying to convey in this post? Can you please clarify by adding some context or what your thoughts are regarding the docket list?
Nice bids hitting the books this morning. People are the values in loading up at these prices.
GLTA longs!
IMHO, there is a lot of value in VPLM at the current price levels. As of Friday, the shares were selling for between $ .0132 and $ .014. That’s a fact.
Some here think those prices are a steal whereas other only see “toxic death” & negativity. The only way one could believe that the shares aren’t worth shit would be if they’re losing money on their holdings and aren’t willing to sell at these prices.
If that’s the case, then there must be a bit of doubt in the investment decision, or a thought the stock price will rise in the future & its worth waiting it out to see what happens next, or a huge misunderstanding on how markets work. What ever the reason doesn’t matter...we are all entitled to our own opinions but not our own facts!
If holding a position in a stock, like VPLM, for a company they don’t believe in, then it would only make sense to close out the position, regardless of price, while it’s still positive and recoup some of the investment. After all, we keep hearing that VPLM is a POS scam stock that will hit trips soon...yet that day never comes!
GLTA longs. Our day is coming...
If people aren’t willing to sell, you can’t buy. Have you ever considered that most people currently holding their shares don’t want to sell because they believe in the upside? For every buyer there has to be a seller.
From what I recall seeing on the level II listings, there have been at least 3 large bids for over 250,000 shares and 1 over 1,000,000 shares that never got filled over their last few weeks. If this were a pump & dump, dilution scam stock to enrich Emil, don’t you think these orders would have been filled regardless of the bid?
Spot on!
Apparently it’s hair grew back overnight because the open today was 12% higher than yesterday’s close! Someone knows something and still wants to own VPLM.
Not only influence the outcome but also cause judges to resign & a wholesale change in leadership at the PTAB. So I’ve had to ask, why did all those judges resign or get fired?
Hint...They has to bail because they were in the pockets of the Bigs and their corruption was about to be publicly exposed. The PTAB could no longer invest them once they were no longer government employees. Very similar to the abrupt exit for Judge Maryanne Trump Barry. Hmm, the corrupt will always run when the dogs are on their scent!
Exactly. It’s like a little Yorkie trying to intimidate a Bullmastiff! The brass that Apple has is just UFB!
Agreed. $ 2.00 or better!
Seems like something is cooking here. Guessing tomorrow will open higher. Could the stars be lining up for VPLM soon?
Yep. I really bought into what Bruce said he was doing to help build a long term market for Hemp but recently sold ALL 5MM of my shares after throughly reading all of the SEC documents. The SEC appears to have a pretty strong case. Seems like Bruce is out for Bruce and not doing anything to help the common shareholders here.
Clearly it’s the huge “pump” waiting for the “dump”
Sarcasm intended!
If you say so. So was the 160K trade a prop trade? It seems like people are just waiting to see the outcome of the recent IPR attempt & lawsuits to see where this goes. VPLM wins in one or both arenas will drive PPS and volume. That’s the way the market works.
Let the buying begin. No prop bids here!