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They Are Still Selling
Latest Shs Sold = 1,104,981
!!! seems timed with last pr !!!
Sold Two Fridays Ago
Trade Date Feb 17, 2017
287,528 Shs Sold At $0.56
Filing Date Feb 22, 2017
Sold Last Wednesday
Trade Date Feb 22, 2017
529,747 Shs Sold At $0.53
Filing Date Feb 24, 2017
timed with last pr
Sold Last Friday
Trade Date Feb 24, 2017
287,706 Shs Sold At $0.52
Filing Date Feb 28, 2017
timed with last pr
RECENTLY SOLD = 13,143,722
EOM
Market Correction
Starting Wednesday, the rally is over.
After Trump's speech to Congress.
No matter what he says.
It's human nature.
Another Leg Down
Don't be fooled by hope.
Nothing in the next Q will help.
Another leg down is being set up.
No revenues, bad deals, debt, dilution.
JMO
The Fourth Quarter Will Not Be Good
Just like the Third Quarter missed expectations by a lot, with a declining EPS to negative ($0.08), the Fourth Quarter will not show any anticipated improvement as well. What happened to the revenues? Where'd they go? Again, nothing ever really seems to add up when compared to those many touted used and abused "Forward-Looking Statements".
Investors Were Tricked
It's pretty scary when you weigh out all of the propaganda against the things that were just blatantly ignored. And all that organized ignorance just opened the door for mass dilution and insider selling as all the grand projections did not, and will not, become realized.
JMO
Did You Get Tricked
It's Only A Test
It looks like Sephora is allowing them to Test-Market their products for a couple months on their website, and only until the spring. Why doesn't the company just say that? Why 'cloak-and-dagger' that? It also looks like Sephora required them to do a little Face-Lift on their packaging. The five Biossance products will physically only be in a few stores, and just sparsely throughout the US. But they don't tell you in which stores, or how many. And why not Europe? I thought Europe was touted as a good target, regarding those "environmental and safety" concerns? Maybe you really have to prove yourself as a product first, before even thinking about entering that really Elite European Market.
Buried In Competition
If you don't put the word Biossance in the search box on the Sephora website, you most likely will never find their products. Otherwise, you will have to sift through hundreds of competitors, and still might not find them. Aside from sifting through that temporary Just Arrived page, those products will be very hard to find.
Marketing To Who
It's hard to sell something without a marketing strategy. Most likely, it sounds like that if they don't penetrate the market and hit a certain level of sales, they may be terminated as a product-line on that website. There is virtually no marketing for their products. It looks like they are just trying to market a gimmick to their shareholders, for the sole purpose and opportunity of more dilution.
Left In The Dark
So anyway, what happened to that Illuminator Eye Gel that was introduced last August on their Biossance web site? They never told you anything further about that. Nothing about sales or anything. They didn't even tell you that they were going to repackaged it as the Squalane Peptide Eye Gel. It looks like they changed it to a different name and look, along with four other items. Why didn't they tell you that? What happened? It's hard to sell something without a marketing strategy.
The Real Product
But anyway... this is not really a revenue stream. I think this is just a side business, to try and occasionally excite a few shareholders into a pumping frenzy. But that just doesn't seem to work anymore. I think we all know that the real product here is just more Insider Selling and more Dilution.
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/biotech-meets-beauty-biossance-announces-133000916.html
Just My Opinion
Still More Insider Selling
More Selling On Wednesday
Trade Date Feb 15, 2017
390,918 Shares Sold At $0.54
Filing Date Feb 17, 2017
RECENT SHARES SOLD = 12,038,741
Interesting how these guys are always selling .
Not only are they preparing for a bad quarter report ,
but I think they are also preparing for a market crash .
JMO
And More Selling Again
More Selling Last Monday
Trade Date Feb 13, 2017
829,130 Shares Sold At $0.57
Filing Date Feb 15, 2017
In February alone, so far there has been
1,547,093 shares sold in the 50 cent range.
RECENT SHARES SOLD = 11,647,823
The Oldest Trick In The Book
The oldest trick in the book would be for them to put out some pr's or anything they can think of, before the quarter report. That's what they learned to do at the "Loser CEO School". But don't fall for their insider attempt to sell into you. Instead, let them hold their own bag, and watch the pps fall along with the market correction... or even a crash.
JMO
Insiders Keep On Selling
Recent Insider Selling
Oct 14th, 2016 - Feb 9th, 2017 there was a total
of 10,742,626 Shares sold by Maxwell Pte Ltd.
( They are wholly-owned by Cairnhill Investments,
which in turn is wholly-owned by Fullerton Pte Ltd,
which in turn is wholly-owned by Temasek Holdings )
Jan 01, 2017 - Raffi Asadorian CFO - Sells = 29,186 Shares
Nov 01, 2016 - John Melo, CEO - Sells = 37,580 shares
Nov 01, 2016 - Joel Cherry, Pes R&D - Sells = 9,301 shares
( All in addition to other selling and dilutive events )
RECENT INSIDER SHARES SOLD SO FAR = 10,818,693
The Oldest Trick In The Book
The oldest trick in the book would be for them to put out some pr's on anything they can think of, before the quarter report. That's what they learned to do at the "Loser CEO School". But don't fall for their insider attempt to sell into you. Instead, let them hold their own bag, and watch the pps fall along with the market correction... or even a crash.
A Little History On Dilution
A year and a half ago the OS was around 87M. One year ago the OS was diluted to about 220M. Nine months later the OS was around 274M. And now the OS is approaching 300M. The Float was about 77M nine months ago. Now the Float is about 150M. This quarter would need 10-times the amount of collaborations they have had all year long just to off-set the amount of dilution! And they'd have to be GOOD collaborations... not BAD ones.
You have to ask yourself why they continue selling. This shows a complete lack of confidence in both the company and the market. It is also interesting that Internet-Pumping and Msg-Board activity coincidentally spiked during most of the insider selling.
More Dilution - November Form-D's
The type of securities offered = Debt / Equity / Warrant
Approx Offering and Sales Amount = $20,000,000
( That's probably around an additional 22,500,000 shares
of additional dilution... and it keeps piling up over time )
Potential ATM Dilution Is Still Open
< On March 8, 2016 the company entered into an "At The Market (ATM)" Issuance Sales Agreement with FBR Capital Markets & Co. under which the Company may issue and sell shares of its common stock having an aggregate offering price of up to $50M from time to time. >
This ATM could be about 100,000,000 additional Common Shares diluted into the OS and Float at today's price, on top of all the other dilution, plus everything else.
JMO
BLACK MONDAY
Thanks To RFB For The Heads-Up
And Still More Insider Selling
Trade Date Feb 7, 12, 2017
288,765 Shares Sold At $0.50
Filing Date Feb 9, 2017
Trade Date Feb 9, 12, 2017
429,198 Shares Sold At $0.51
Filing Date Feb 13, 2017
TODAY'S DILUTION TOTAL = 717,963 Shares
That's a lot of shares to be selling in that price range .
Interesting how these guys are always selling .
Not only are they preparing for the quarter report ,
but I think they are also preparing for the market crash .
I mean, everyone knows it's coming .
Look... you have a madman in the White House.
The cabinet is full of crazy inexperienced people .
The world is licking their chops to take advantage .
Trump knows nothing about negotiating world leaders .
And the market is making absolutely 100% no sense at all .
It would not surprise me if Gold hit $5000 in a couple months .
All hell is gonna break loose everywhere pretty soon .
Don't fall for this head-fake in the market, it's the last
gasp before reality rears it's ugly head and hits the fan .
JMO
Bad Idea
The moment you buy will be the
moment it drops another 15 cents.
Did You Know
... that this company has nothing to do with Biofuels.
... that the debt is about $220,200,000 .
... the 'YF Stat Page' says they only have $2.3M (?) in cash.
... that makes the debt about 96 TIMES the amount of cash.
... the Outstanding Shares are at least 274,000,000 .
... about 100,000,000 more shares, from an ATM 'dilution' Facility,
are ready and waiting to be sold into the market at today's price.
... that a 1-for-20 reverse split is circling-in from high above.
Did You Know That ?
Just My Opinion
The Cover-Up
The business update last Friday seems to be in quick response to the Motley Fool article that was published last Tuesday. And the first line wording in that update alludes to: "an update on certain aspects". This could be a tell-tale sign that they are just trying to suggest what they think you want to hear, and does not disclose all of the 'other aspects' that they don't want you to know about, or even to think about. A subtle diversion.
The Usual Forward-Looking Statements
The pr doesn't really tell you anything new. Nothing they haven't already told you three or six months ago. Not much of an update at all. The 2016 revenues probably did increase, but nowhere near projections. And that revenue was not entirely based on product, as much as it was just from the upfront money received through some of those collaboration agreements themselves. Just look at the negative EPS surprise of the previous 3rd quarter at ($0.08). Where did the money go? The potential problem is them not reaching any future supply milestones that were perhaps laid out in some of those agreements, which could then affect how those collaboration agreements themselves may change as time goes on.
Another thing is how they worded: "we are now transitioned away from commodity-related product sales". Which is referring to all types of biofuels. If you remember, potential biofuel sales were touted as one of their main advantages during the last internet pump-n-dump.
Other Things They Don't Want To Talk About
They deliberately did not allude to any last quarter sales, the state of dilution, the grand total debt, or even how the new year is starting off. Using terms like "record revenues" doesn't really mean much in relative terms. It's just a phrase of semantics. And any new upcoming collaborations will most likely be made under similar terms, in which any possible effectiveness would not be realized until many more years out into the future.
All - In - All
This was most likely a response to the Motley Fool article. And therefore perhaps another attempt to buffer-up while leading you into another tell-tale quarter report in the meantime .
There is a strong possibility that $0.444 could soon become another new top.
Just My Opinion
Going To Get Worse
March 2nd
2016 Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year Report
Of course on Thursday, after market closes.
Too Bad
The Fourth Quarter Will Not Be Good
Just like the Third Quarter missed expectations by a lot, with a declining EPS to negative ($0.08), the Fourth Quarter will not show any anticipated improvement as well. What happened to the revenues? Where'd they go? Again, nothing seems to ever add up to the abuse of those many touted "Forward-Looking Statements".
Hope Is A Four Letter Word
Beware of those that still hang-on for hope that the pump-n-dump scheme will retain some traction. Hoping for that next pr. Hoping for that next collaboration. Hoping for more "Forward-Looking Statements" to trick others out of their money, as to get back what was taken.
What They Learn To Do
All of these CEO's go to the same loser CEO schools. And all of their attorneys follow the same play book. It's my opinion, through research, DD, and years of experience... that clever money-making "hush-hush" dilution is the ultimate Name-Of-The-Game here.
How Did It Start
In June of 2010, after the name change and before their public offering, they had 37,682,681 Outstanding Shares. In late Sept of 2010 the initial public offering was for 5,300,000 shares at $16.00 per share. The OS was then 42,982,681 shares. During the following 3 months the pps doubled, climbing to almost $33.00. A year and a half later, by May 2012, it had progressively sunk down to $1.57 and has fluctuated sideways & down ever since.
I wonder who the lucky ones were that sold and went short on that !
At that time the OS had only increased to about 46,000,000. And the AS (Authorized Shares) was only 100,000,000. But by Jan 2016 the OS had jumped about 500% to 220,000,000 shares. And the AS had jumped about 400% to 400,000,000 shares.
Setting Up For The Split
With more loans & notes and warrants that even date waaay back to 2010, plus all the dilution and possibly more ATM dilution, and then the results of bad "give-away" deals . . . since the 2nd Qtr of 2016 I estimate the current OS to now be diluted "up to" around 320,000,000 shares, from about 220,000,000 last Jan. The most recent unreliable and out-of-date stats suggest the OS is already up to about 274,000,000 .
All-In-All... it's a perfect set-up for a 1-for-20 reverse split.
Now, I know that my estimated range of 320,000,000 shares in the OS is INCREDIBLY HUGE. And it would probably send the pps down to Zero. But an increase of any percentage of that would still be considered HUGE. And it would disprove the prevalent notion that there has been no additional dilution or insider selling.
It's pretty scary, when you weigh out all of the propaganda against the things that were just blatantly ignored. And all that organized ignorance just opened the door for mass dilution and insider selling, as all the grand projections did not, and will not, become realized. After a pump like that, they better have some solid numbers. Because if they just try to pump it again... it will destroy them. The writing is on the wall.
WATCH OUT
Because, just when you think it can't get any worse... it does.
The current pps is too high when compared to the risk from promoted misinformation. And how these events have been combined with bad collaborations, warrants, notes, increased debt, and along with the continued unexpected surprises of dilution and insider selling.
Just My Opinion
Heading To $0.444
Then the 4th quarter report will take this
even lower ... somewhere in the 0.30's .
That's what happens when certain
people do certain things to others .
Pretty soon the company will start to
default on collaboration projections ,
then they will be forced to renegotiate
their bad terms into even worse terms.
JMO
New Top At $0.666
Sneaky Dilution & Insider Selling
While the company touted non-dilutive funding to support their growth plans... at that same time they created an almost relative amount of warrants plus unrelated dilution events totaling millions and millions and millions of common shares that were added to the OS and Float, which was unbeknownst to many investors at the time. And many of those debatable "bad collaborations" included notes that will also end up being converted and diluted into additional common shares as well. But most of this dilution was not known to many during the added surprise of an insider sell-off.
The 4th Quarter May Be Worse
And many thought the company would have already reached profitability and a positive EPS during the third quarter. But even with higher revenues, the EPS went backwards to a negative (0.08) cents. How did that happen? Will it happen again?... Probably.
Tricked Again
The company is only interested in two things, imo... and that is trying to trick investors into indirectly paying for their salaries through various forms of dilution. While "enticing" 3rd parties to create a P-n-D momentum scheme, thus allowing insiders to sell .
What Do You See
Missed Projections? Lower EPS? Mysteriously vanished revenues? No Profit? Dilution? Insider Selling? Stupid repetitive third party opinions? Maybe you saw how things were not as they were once described? Maybe now you see how things may not be matching up as some perceived? Maybe you see an unjustified risk at this level? Maybe, like others that have already fled, you now see quite a lot of work still yet to be done? And maybe it will take more time than was originally thought, before things even begin to show a glimmer as to what was once promised by so many ?
So What's Next
Probably somewhere around 0.30 to 0.40 cents .
JMO
THE LOSER CEO SCHOOL
Chapter One
How to make money right out of the gate
with a public offering and insider selling
Chapter Two
How to make your product
sound better than it really is
Chapter Three
How to convince lower management that it is
always their turn to buy donuts for everybody
Chapter Four
How to disagree with everyone and
still get away with using their ideas
Chapter Five
How to use the accomplishments of others and
to then make them sound like they are your own
Chapter Six
How to cheat investors and then have them
suck up to you at the same time after you lost
all of their money and now they will do or say
anything to get it back
Chapter Seven
How to secure a large salary using
the 'Dilution Is The Solution' method
and nobody finds out until it's too late
Chapter Eight
How to set up a bad time and location at
the next conference so that nobody can
find you while hiding out in the parking lot
Chapter Nine
How to bend, twist, and stretch the
Forward-Looking Statement Clause
without 'actually' telling a great big lie
Chapter Ten
How to make bad deals and give away
the company and forever be tied to long
term debt that will never ever go away
Chapter Eleven
How to create an excuse at just the right time
when things are starting to fall apart and really
turn against you after greenlighting a third party
internet P-n-D scheme
Chapter Twelve
How to change your identity and set
up a second home in a foreign country
Chapter Thirteen
How to go bankrupt and still
become a multi millionaire
Just My Opinion
You Guessed It
More Insider Selling
Trade Date Jan 12, 2017
29,602 Shares Sold At $0.8148
Filing Date Jan 17, 2017
It's just really interesting how these guys
are always able to sell at the top... isn't it ?
EOM
They Just Flipped You Off
That's what the One-1-Share sale
in After Hours means by the MM's.
Did any of you here know that ?
And they painted 3 cents with it.
I know what the next signal is
... but I'm not going tell.
12-X4X-12
More Selling Continues
Insiders Again Today
Trade Date Jan 10, 2017 = 427,206 Shares Sold At $0.8103
Trade Date Jan 11, 2017 = 024,600 Shares Sold At $0.8020
Filing Date Jan 12, 2017 = 451,806 Total Shares Sold
EOM
Unfortunately You Don't Understand
What Did They Do
They concocted an Internet Pump-n-Dump Fake-News Campaign scheme. A scheme supported by repetitive and amplified stories of grandeur. "This quarter will be profitable"... some yelled. "No dilution"... some screamed. "They're saving lives"... some claimed. "No insider selling"... some said. But millions and millions of revenues are all gone. Massive dilution has taken place. Insiders have sold. Funds have sold. Millions and millions of investors money are all gone. Lives have been destroyed... not saved.
no profits - cut-n-paste-n-post - no profits
How Did They Do It
And so they take on the accomplishments of others, only to fool you. Skewed conclusions that are nothing more than far-fetched and unethical false self-promotions. Massive dilution mysteriously takes place, top holders and insiders are selling. And they sold and diluted during the P-n-D. And they will try again.
no profits - cut-n-paste-n-post - no profits
Why Did They Do It
They had to do it. They had to do it before you found out. They had to do it before you found out there were no profits. Before you found out massive dilution was taking place. Before you found out there were no good deals. Before you found out the EPS was approaching negative infinity.
no profits - cut-n-paste-n-post - no profits
JMO
Clever Statements
This Is Off Topic But Bear With Me
Might Be A Little "Heady" For Some
Regarding Trump
One of the many things that Trump said in his Press Conference was that he would donate all hotel profits from foreign governments to the U.S. Treasury. So that sounds like a nice thing to say. A warm-and-fuzzy kind of statement. So the first thought you have is that it sounds great, and is such a good concession on his part. It kind of buffers you and then lures you into accepting all of his other plans and statements, regarding "everything else". You actually think he is giving his own personal potential profits away, as a donation to "the people" instead. Sounds fare, doesn't it? And this idea would actually "encourage" foreign leaders to only use his "Trump" establishments, as opposed to using others. Good for "us", isn't it?
But whether there are profits or not, the Trump Organization will not lose out on even greater potential gains. His company will still be charging and keeping the actual "costs" of providing such services (which could be inflated?), while possibly adjusting the profits to offer discount rates. Costs and profits are two different things. Thus actually costing his company nothing... a breakeven, even if profits are lost or generated. There will no doubt be many accounting advantages as well. But in reality, it is a way to promote the Trump Brand. This deal would result in tremendous free advertising for his company, as being "The New Hub" for all visiting foreign leaders. A clever Win-Win for Trump and his Brand. This will lead to much larger "secondary profits" that will be generated from this clever promotional strategy. And will ultimately offset any lost profits by actually bringing in even more real "secondary profits" for just his company alone. He just played the public on that deal, and they don't even know it yet.
This is just one example. There are many examples of how clever some "organizations" can be, especially when pandering to those that may be less savvy in their particular field of "expertise".
This strategy of presenting the illusion of "giving something away" is nothing more than a diversionary tactic that is used to "imply a loss", in order to secure a much bigger prize or larger gain on the other end of a deal. It is similar to Sleight Of Hand. The Trump Organization is hoping that this little diversion will set up, confuse, and cause the Ethics Committee to inadvertently look the other way. Then, by using this yet false "implied loss" diversion, they may win the approval of the "Bigger Package", while seemingly avoiding any concerns of conflict of interests. Which, in reality, will not be the case. Basically, Trump thinks that he can use the same abusive tactics that he used in his business dealings as a Developer, and then apply them in the "real" world for his gain... as in like, The White House.
To Be Fair
You might remember when Obama was stumping for Hillary during the campaign. One time Obama was giving a speech for Hillary when both she and Bill Clinton were present. At one point Obama made the claim that Hillary was the "best qualified person in the room" to be the next president. Then he looked at Bill, while smiling, and said: "Sorry Bill, but it's the truth". Everybody laughed, as it was viewed as a very high endorsement for Hillary. But the fact is, that neither Bill nor Barack were no longer "qualified" to even run as president, since they both had already completed two terms in office. That was the real reason he said that she was the most "qualified". That's why he said it, imo. But no one caught on to that or put it together, except for Bill and Barack themselves. Of course... an inside joke.
Fake News And Ethics
Although maybe questionable... these are just some examples from those type of cunning elitists, politicians, and their attorneys who try to fool others into believing one thing, when something else entirely different is going on. It's like running a clever "Five-Fingered Discount" on the masses of people.
Big Problems Everywhere
What Are You Talking About
I don't think you understood correctly.
EOM
Very Discouraging
It doesn't matter how much they own. What matters is that they are selling. Which means they are helping to add common shares to the OS and Float, which then devalues the share value. Both quantitatively and qualitatively.
Also, they sell at suspicious times of high msg-board activity and/or during a highly perceived and debatable P-n-D, in which "no dilution" and "no insider selling" was the principal opinion.
It must be very painful for the company to find out that they have burned-out their own orchestrated pump machine. But then again, it must also be very gratifying to know that they were able to dilute millions upon millions of shares into the OS and Float, while setting-up those who were so privileged as to have the heads-up for their insider selling.
Quote:
" ...but if all the notes convert the company is almost debt free.. "
Well, obviously. I mean, if 'anyone' pays off debt, then they are debt free... duh. But these guys can't. And it seems like they don't want to. They just want to ride it. Nobody will be converting all notes anytime soon. And when they do... it will cause more massive dilution. Catch 22. Just part of the Bad Deals. A 1-for-20 reverse split is already being discussed, imo.
JMO
More Insider Selling
There has been some additional insider selling of Common Shares into the open retail market. The Float has recently increased dramatically, along with the Outstanding Shares.
A year and a half ago the OS was around 87M. One year ago the OS diluted itself to about 220M. Six months later the OS was around 268M. And now the OS is around 300M. The Float was about 77M nine months ago. Now the Float is about 150M. This quarter would need 10-times the amount of collaborations they have had all year long just to off-set the amount of dilution! And they'd have to be GOOD collaborations... not these BAD ones.
Very Recent Insider Selling
Trade Date Jan 06, 2017 = 484,474 Shares Sold At $0.8015
Trade Date Jan 09, 2017 = 588,373 Shares Sold At $0.8188
Filing Date Jan 10, 2017 = 1,072,847 Total Shares Sold
You have to ask yourself why they continue selling. This shows a complete lack of confidence. It is also interesting that some M-Board activity coincidentally spiked during the time of Jan 4th thru 9th.
Some Previous Insider Selling *
Oct 18th - Dec 15th there was a total of
8,470,498 Shares sold by Maxwell Pte Ltd.
They are wholly-owned by Cairnhill Investments,
which in turn is wholly-owned by Fullerton Pte Ltd,
which in turn is wholly-owned by Temasek Holdings.
Jan 01, 2017 - Raffi Asadorian CFO - Sells = 29,186 Shares
Nov 01, 2016 - John Melo, CEO - Sells = 37,580 shares
Nov 01, 2016 - Joel Cherry, Pes R&D - Sells = 9,301 shares
* All in addition to other selling and dilutive events.
November Form-D's
The type of securities offered = Debt / Equity / Warrant
Approx Offering and Sales Amount = $20,000,000
( that's probably around an additional 22,500,000 shares
of additional dilution... and it keeps piling up over time )
ATM (At The Market) Dilution Is Still Open
On March 8, 2016 the company entered into an "At The Market (ATM)" Issuance Sales Agreement with FBR Capital Markets & Co. under which the Company may issue and sell shares of its common stock having an aggregate offering price of up to $50M from time to time.
That could be well over 70,000,000 additional Common Shares to be diluted into the OS and Float, on top of all the other dilution, plus everything else.
JMO
The Merry-Go-Round Syndrome
Twelve Lousy Years Of Tricks --- Never A Profit --- Revenues Come --- Revenues Disappear --- More Debt --- Less Cash --- More Promises --- Followed By More Surprises --- Lots And Lots Of Dilution --- Many Bad Deals --- Let's Give Away The Company --- There's Nothing To Show --- Nasdaq Warning --- Gotta Make It Over A Buck --- Let's Have A Pumping Campaign --- We'll Destroy Some Investors --- Oh No, Another Nasdaq Warning --- That Was Quick --- Quarter 3 Was Bad --- Quarter 4 Will Be Worse --- Nasdaq Warning --- Gotta Make It Over A Buck --- We Need Some Help --- Nothing To Show --- Can't Get It Done --- Can't Get It Right --- EPS Is Sinking --- Negative Infinity --- Sell The Sizzle --- Give It Away --- Bad Convertible Notes --- More Warrants --- More Debt --- Rob Peter --- Pay Paul --- Peter Is Broke --- Paul Has Left The Building --- Activate The ATM --- At The Market Dilution --- We Always Need Cash --- Insider Selling --- If They Thought Qtr Three Was Bad --- Wait Until They Get A Load Of Qtr Four --- What Do We Do --- Repeat Some Old Bad News --- Make It Sound Good --- Save Some Lives --- Take Some Credit --- Take The Credit Of Others --- Be Clever --- More Insider Selling --- More Dilution --- Forward Looking Statements --- Try Another P-n-D --- Get On The Horn --- Get On The Msg Boards --- Cut-n-Paste-n-Post --- Cut-n-Paste-n-Post --- Create Some Distance From The Truth --- What Do We Do --- Get Rid Of Somebody --- Blame It On The CFO --- They're Stupid --- Don't Tell Anyone --- The Price Will Collapse --- Can't Hold It Steady --- She's Breaking Up Captain --- We're Going Down --- SOS --- Seeking Alpha Please Help Us --- SOS --- Clay Please Help Us --- SOS --- We're In Big Trouble --- We're Beating Our Own Dead Horse --- PR's Don't Help --- They Caught On To Us --- #HELP! --- We're Exposed --- We Need Something --- Anything --- Get Something Going --- Invent A Catalyst --- Repetitive Messaging --- Hide The Truth --- Cut-n-Paste-n-Post --- Cut-n-Paste-n-Post --- Twelve Long Years --- Reverse Split Coming --- One For Twenty --- Massive Gain In Outstanding Shares --- Increasing Float --- No Profit --- Lowered EPS --- Doesn't Look Good --- Missed Again --- Aw, Shucks --- We're In Trouble --- Paint Some Tape --- Do Something --- Do Anything --- PLEASE --- PLEASE --- Please ---- Please --- Please . . .
Round-n-Round ... Falling Down
Where Did It Go
seasonedwell ...
Can you repost your #3350 message ?
It had a fairly decent opinion of how the bad deals and convertible notes were going to be such a strain, and hamper the company's future. And how the financial situation was such a burden, or something like that.
Also, something about expenses versus overall weak margins? And also how long it would take for the company to turn around. Did you suggest 2 years? Or was it a year and a half? I personally think it will be haunting them forever.
All in all, it was a "fair" point.
I almost thought it was "someone else's" !
But now it's gone ... Was it a mistake ?
wink ;-- ) wink
The Wink-Wink Strategy
Please, tell us all about your desperate insight and "wink-wink" in order to hopefully make a trade. Are you really in there tight with the next P-n-D program? Is there a desperate attempt in the makings to salvage as much as possible before everyone is hit between the eyes again, and then hammered with another Quarter Report? Is the attempt to artificially jack-up the pps in full mode right now? Do they have to act quick and slide another "whammy" in there, before the shareholders realize what "wink-wink" hit them? Is the secret ATM dilution machine primed-up and ready to go?
Come on man, can you dig a little deeper than that? Aren't you really just hoping that some PR is on they way? Something to back up your "wink-wink"? Something you can twist into your saving grace? Something to divert attention away from the continued dilution, the insider selling, the warrants, the convertible notes, the debt, the give-away collaborations, and the upcoming reverse split? Now, what's really going on? You can tell us. Cough it up.
When all else fails, is a "wink-wink" really the only viable tool that's left in the barn?
EOM
Check This Out Punk
While the company touted non-dilutive funding to support their growth plans... at that same time they created an almost relative amount of warrants plus unrelated dilution events totaling millions and millions and millions of common shares that were added to the OS and Float, which was unbeknownst to many investors at the time. And many of those debatable "bad collaborations" included notes that will also end up being converted and diluted into additional common shares as well. But most of this dilution was not known to many, during the added surprise of an insider sell-off.
The 4th Quarter May Be Worse
And many thought the company would have already reached profitability and a positive EPS during the third quarter. But even with higher revenues, the EPS went backwards to a negative (0.08) cents. How did that happen ?
Tricked Again
So now, what do you see? Maybe you see an expected rehash from another pre-fabricated repetitive SA article? Maybe you see another subtle try at a P-n-D? Maybe you see how you might get tricked again?
The company is only interested in two things, imo... and that is trying to trick the investors into paying for their salaries through various forms of dilution. While "enticing" 3rd parties to create a P-n-D momentum scheme so insiders can sell.
Maybe you saw how things were not as they were once described? Maybe now you see how things may not be matching up as some perceived? Maybe you see an unjustified risk at this level? Maybe, like others that have already fled, you now see quite a lot of work still yet to be done? And maybe it will take more time than was originally thought, before things even begin to show a glimmer as to what was once promised by so many ?
So What's Next
Probably somewhere between 0.30 and 0.40 cents .
JMO
Start The New Year Right
An internet P-n-D was in the works? And now the CFO abruptly leaves? They never thought it would all backfire like this. Now they are in trouble, with the prospects of ending up where they started. Delisting is again on the horizon, with an inevitable 1-for-20 reverse split bearing down on them.
They figured that time would create distance from the last P-n-D. Many were told back then, but the company did it to themselves. But even so, many bagholders got caught in the rip-tide of deception. It always happens. The rest just ditched the stock and ran for the hills, looking for another victim. The recent SA article was an example of an obvious plant, a big joke that just isn't going to work anymore.
It's pretty scary, when you weigh out all of the propaganda against the things that were just blatantly ignored. And all that organized ignorance opened the door for mass dilution and insider selling, as all the grand projections did not, and will not, become realized. After a pump like that, they better have some solid numbers. Because if they just try to pump it again, it will destroy them. The writing is on the wall.
Mike and Ike
A Delicious Candy !
JMO
!!! WARNING !!! WARNING !!! WARNING !!!
* * * * THE CFO LEFT THE COMPANY * * * *
Now, Why On Earth Would That Happen ?
... Something Very Fishy Going On Here ...
Bad Moon On The Rise
Hoping never leads to a positive outcome. But if one wants to play along, it's all about what will happen in the meantime. Better off trying for luck elsewhere. Especially during the next "90 days" ... guaranteed.
B A M M
Haven't You Heard
I have 120M shares now.
I also have 120M short.
Some wouldn't know a facetious post in the context of it's thread if it was right in front of them. An internet P-n-D was in the works then, just like it reluctantly wants to be tried again. They are now forced, and have to come up with something. They never thought it would all backfire like it has. Now they are in trouble, with the prospects of ending up where they started. Delisting is again on the horizon, with an inevitable 1-for-20 reverse split bearing down on them.
But they did it to themselves. Many were told back then. But even so, many bagholders got caught in the rip-tide of deception. It always happens. The rest just ditch the stock and run for the hills, looking for another victim. They figured that time would create distance from the last P-n--D. The recent SA article is an example of an obvious plant and a joke that isn't going to work anymore.
It's pretty scary, when you weigh out all of the propaganda against the things that were just blatantly ignored. And that organized ignorance opened the door for mass dilution and insider selling, as all the grand projections did not, and will not, become realized. After a pump like that, you better have some solid numbers. Because if you just try to pump it again, it will destroy you. The writing is on the wall.
B A M M
JMO
PROJECTION MISHAPS
The company will not meet perceived projections. They may have intended for you to think that they would, but they won't. They may have wanted you to believe that their progress would enable a solid year with revenue levels above $90 million. But they aren't. They're not even close.
But I think through clever wordings and the use of the "Forward-Looking Statements" clause, that they may have "implied", but actually failed to mention "which year"! Many touted that it would be "this year"! But did the company really ever specifically mention: "2016"? ... No. Of course not.
Could they have really meant it for the year "2025" instead? ... Maybe.
They just like to use open-ended phrases like "near term", "medium term", and "long term". Then they leave it up to "The Hyping Machine" to create a false fantasy of misinformation. This scenario is just the perfect storm for dilution and insider selling. Which is exactly what happened.
And some wanted you to also believe that they would generate positive cash flows from their operations by the end of 2016. But that is also definitely not the case. And when they "did" have the chance of increased revenues... well, the EPS went negative the other way!
Their "best quarter" only produced a further increase in the loss of profits, and the EPS nosedived to negative infinity instead! And the fourth quarter may be even worse. That's the secret. And they are really scared (ie: frightened). They are now entering a hole. They did not think the story they painted would lead to another NASDAQ warning. So now guess what they have to try to "undo" ?
WATCH OUT
The current pps is too high when compared to the risk from promoted misinformation. And how these events have been combined with bad collaborations, warrants, notes, increased debt, and along with the continued unexpected surprises of dilution and insider selling.
Just My Opinion
Not A Good Question
What you need to do is ask yourself
the same question, and then multiply
it by about 0.35... because that's how
much more you are about to lose.
EOM
The Only Thing Guaranteed
Revenues will never exceed costs.
Revenues will always fall short.
There will always be warrants.
There will always be dilution.
There will never be a profit.
Each quarter will be worse.
Always increasing Debt.
Always Insider selling.
Increasing Float.
Increasing OS.
Negative EPS.
More Tricks.
Less Money.
Lost integrity.
Loss in Confidence.
Forward-Looking Statements.
Trapped Investors will keep leaving.
Traders see nothing left to use-n-abuse.
that's just the way it is
JMO
Feel The Burn
This Last Quarter (Oct - Dec)
Revenues will not be as expected.
Profit will be nowhere in sight.
More Insider selling.
Increased Float.
Increased OS.
More dilution.
RS is coming.
Lower EPS.
More debt.
Less cash.
Looking Ahead
Just more "Forward-Looking Statements" .
Hoping that "time" will create amnesia.
Same as it ever was.
Scarred: Wounded, injured, marked for life.
JMO
THE THREE D's
Divert - Dilute - Dump
Create A Diversion
Dilute Into Confusion
Dump With The Pump
The Co Is Now Scarred For Life
And They Did It To Themselves
Loser companies always send their people to the same
"How To Trick The Investor And Be A Loser CEO" schools.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=127142235
JMO
Selling - Selling - Selling
The repetitive Pump-n-Dump scheme
led to a disappointing Quarter and EPS .
It also led to dilution and insider selling.
Massive dilution and insider selling occurred
even when it was not suppose to ever happen.
No Pump-n-Dump stock can ever be trusted.
You get one shot at it if you are lucky, then
it is marked for life and thrown in the trash.
This quarter has a very good chance
to be twice as bad as the last quarter.
Do not trust "Forward-Looking Statements".
Risk justifies a 0.42 price range or lower.
This stock is being sold into every
bounce, and then sinks to a new low.
Only an idiot would be long here.
JMO
It's "Forward-Looking Statements" Time
They poorly executed another promise that they did not work hard on. And it is another example of the type of poor execution that the company always seems to end up delivering. Again, only the insiders seem to be pleased with the "Underlying" business.
But what exactly is the: "Underlying" business ?
As opposed to: "The" business ?
Is it: Dilution.
Is it: Insider selling.
Is it: Making bad deals.
Is it: Liquidating the business piece-by-piece
for just a few measly pennies on the dollar.
Is that what the "Underlying" business really is ?
And what is really meant when stating that they are in the process of achieving another record quarter? When was the first record quarter? Was it really a record quarter? Or was it just a better quarter when compared to previously worse quarters. And did any of them lead to any sustainment of these so called better quarters? No, of course not. And what are they really referring to? I would assume revenues. But they did not say that. They could actually be referring to the amount coffee they supply for themselves in the break room.
And when will this other "record quarter" finally materialize? What does "in the process of" really mean? Does it mean five years from now? Ten years from now? Never? What kind of statement is that really. And when aren't they always pretending to be in the process of "doing something". And at what time will any accumulation of these so called "record quarters" have any chance of ever getting close to any profit at all. If ever. And will record quarters always be offset by expenses and dilution and warrants and convertible notes and bad deals, etc... like in the past ?
This company has made a living off of fooling
people with their Forward-Looking Statements.
This risk tolerance alone justifies a 0.42 price range.
The long term debt just increased.
Again... Robbing Peter to pay Paul.
Money comes, but more seems to go.
Nothing but dilution.
Nothing but tricks.
Long Term Debt.
Misplaced Cash.
Bad deals.
No profit.
No EPS.
Nothing but pretty little Forward-Looking Statements that
somehow never end up being what were claimed to be.
Remember what happened last Quarter ?
Well... this Quarter may even be worse .
Just My Opinion Based On Previous Events
MERRY CHRISTMAS !
Friday December 23, 2016 - 4:34PM EST
Item 3.01 Notice Of Delisting Or Failure To Satisfy A
Continued Listing Rule Or Standard; Transfer Of Listing
Finally released on the last day, near the last minute, and the very last second required to be made pubic by SEC rules. After the close of the day, on a Friday, going into a Xmas Holiday Weekend. Buried and almost hidden at the very bottom of another questionably needed or timed 8-K.
The company should have received a NASDAQ "notice" on Friday Dec 16, which would then be followed up by a "letter" on Monday the 19th. So they had five days to release the info to the public from the 16th. That would be by 5PM EST, on Friday the 23rd.
So, they just as easily could have released the NASDAQ Warning much earlier, and without trying to bury it under all of that other material. Stupid, isn't it? But that's what they are trained to do at those "How To Be A CEO And Trick The Investor" schools... lol.
Many already knew about all of this, but then again, there were also many who did not. Nevertheless, it is highly suspicious and very telling of the nature and integrity of the type of company that the public is dealing with when they appear to be misleading and/or making an effort to hide pertinent or required information, which ends up being hard to find. Just as it is important to be aware of Forward-Looking Statements that may allude to profits and no dilution... when the complete opposite turns out to be the result.
Thanks A Lot
JMO