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It's convienient that we may be settling with NOK..however the lawsuits have segrated Nokia from Sam. Seems like things may have went just like hoped for?
I hope that is the case and they don't go sideways ;)
thanks for the answers.
That seems ridiculous...why in the world would the lawyer say not to worry about that date.
The 4/11 injunction. I have read every post for years...but can someone smarter than me (almost any of you) explain to me what exactly the injunction is?
TIA
lets go right into the 20s
What I worry about is if the CEO of BS is going to be OK and still got huge pay for this and last year and his gross bonus. It's a lot of work being criminally negligent.
i understand that sir. I guess just nothing would surprise me too much ;)
I don't see that as that big of a stretch. This stock was sitting in the 30s with less information out there and more time before the court dates that keep coming. I have no idea if it will or not but I could see it moving up in that direction again before we get any real big news. 19.10 hopefully will be just a blip. I enjoy the commentary in any case.
slightly off topic feel good story about nokia...I work for a large IT company and just was given a decision whether we wanted to use Nokia or another Vendor to supply a large equipment order. Guess which vendor I DIDN'T pick.
Did anyone see any followup to their closing scandal in Germany?
so is there a 10 due out today from the company? Anything we are looking for in there?
I double my position after all these years also and got in at the same price. Like you said couldn't resist ;/
So was today's PR concerning the 2nd deal that was worked out that WM talked about in the last CC. Is that the concensus? I'm confused a bit.
Anti-Nokia backlash grows in Germany
http://news.yahoo.com/s/afp/20080120/bs_afp/germanyfinlandtelecomcutscompanynokiaeu
Maybe the judge had an NGAGE and we will catch some favoritism?
= corporate terrorism. Try to make it extremely painful by taking unconventional and unethical approaches so much so that you hope to get some sort of concessions. Unfortunately it seems any sort of war on corporate terror is working about as good as the bush administrations attempt. It is pretty disgusting how slow the legal system is ;(
What is this TOS everyone is talking about? What exhange is it on and what are the fundamentals? What does PJ have to say about its near and long term price targets? Appreciate any DD already done on it so I can start my research from there.
It would be nice if they tried to make their money by working on tripling the share price instead of their nearly guaranteed money.
I'm gonna try this at home. In order to allign myself better with my marriage if I meet 130% of my target goals my wife must give me 3Xs my current payoff. I don't think I will be disclosing my goals to her.
Honestly if the goals look good I can accept this as a shareholder. If they are weak it's debatable.
Nice to see us climbing back up over 30.
FACT has been buying a lot...doesn't make sense but I am sure they have a lot. Or maybe Amit and his buddies?
Can't wait for the day someone says we are passing Qcoms cap ;/
Ya...a bunch of other nervous shorts
Bad news? What are you talking about?
Wow...I had surgery yesterday and missed this whole thing :(
I thought I was still in a sedated dreamstate when I was reading this about Nokia...it feels like the Berlin wall was taken down.
:)
ya my 400 shares I own (most of my portfolio) really entrenches me as a power player with Cohen in this game (sarcasm). To be fair my frustration should not be directed at IDCC management, but most CEOs and board members of big corporations and public stocks (especially the company I work for). Seems like they make out ridiculously good no matter what and since I watch this board and hope everyday its the most convienient forum to vent. I will try to keep it to a minimum.
I really don't wanna see a buyout and just wanna see IDCC get its due like any other long :)
Oh...and want to see Nokia go down hard with this arb crap.
Don't worry..Management will still have their payday regardless whether its this year/next year...so don't lose any sleep over them. ;/
When is the effective date to hold for the dividend and how many shares will you get per hisc? Is this out there?
The report does seem pretty meaningless....so why the move down...I can't imagine its because of that report unless they held a significant amount of shares?
My bad...I was just trying to search for any positive...I fully hope and anticipate the price to go well above where we were before, but I know this type of stuff happens...I just wish I could understand why :) If I could figure out how to edit my post I would.
Obviously this is a negative for anyone holding short term...my only hope is this means they can take more shares off the market through the buyback and it helps us long term. Since most big companies are crooked..hopefully they are working with someone to drag the price down for the buyback...who knows :)
My positive spin on price drop.... For once in my life I am not worried about short term drop we are experiencing....I am looking at selling off part of another stock and adding to IDCC based on the last CC we had so the minor downtrend is actually OK for me. Also, The lower the price...the more shares IDCC will be able to buy back which I can only assume to be a good thing. And lastly I am concerned about where the price will be in December of this year much more than the next month or two. That said...I can't handle the teens again without losing some sanity :) I assume this price drop is just people moving near term money out until news hits again on the important issues...but I am NO expert...just a guesser :)
GL all.
What time frame doese anyone guess we will see an event (and what event(s) that could have any real effect on this stock now that the CC is over?
I personally am happy with their answer about the buyback. About buying it when they think its right. If the price was to spike like it did in 99 (when I got into idcc initially :/) they don't wanna eat their words saying they are looking to buy in right away.....I'd rather they do it when it looks best for the company.
Corp....
Other than the obvious fact that you aren't happy with the way management is handling monies for their compensation what was your take on the other issues talked about in the call? I also agree that it is possible that a dividend could be a better thing for share holders but I am no expert on when the right timing for something like that might be.
As a novice investor after reading this guys report and him telling me in English that he has a 12 month price target on this at/below its current level there is no way I would ever use him or his firm for investment. I think there is a place for being conservative...but not beyond the real of all common sense. Please just say what you mean.
What happens to your shares if there ever was a buyout? I never believe the rumours...but I am not sure what I would do with my shares in such an event. Can anyone with more investment knowledge give me an idea what options you have in such an event in idcc's case?
Thanks
A solution along the same lines of thinking.....if you really want this stock to take off what you need to do is convince me to sell my shares. 100% success rate.
Anybody think management should wait at least a day or two before their next HUGE option packages to themselves?