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Lukin...thanks for the updates on MM's, it is helpful to many. I cannot believe anyone would sell here. Lets rock this upward!!!
Lets get to the top of the Ihub boards...new people need to know about this undervalued opportunity!!!
I wonder how deep are WhiteSky's pockets? I don't know if they have the kind of money SFOR will be seeking or not? Anyone know more about their financial situation?
Can be big if purchased...I wonder how much or little the developer community will want to incorporate SFOR's product? The cash register hasn't rung yet folks.
I hear ya...I noticed closing at .008 and a big block was traded - the number of shares weren't disclosed until after the close. So, there was more action there than I thought. It will be interesting to see the first half hour of trading tomorrow morning.
I'm kind of concerned about tomorrow especially if there isn't any news out. The MM's didn't want .0008's and were selling their .0009's as fast as they could. It could have been small investors buying in on "supposed news tomorrow." Hope the news happens, but I see MM's swooping in tomorrow for more cheapies/a down day tomorrow if there isn't any news. Again, not trying to be negative - but just my read of things. Come on news WITH substance to it!!!
Us little guys don't control the trading unless we buy on major news. The MM's are the whores and have too much control right now. I am on the fence and have an order in at .0007 in case they eat up all of the 8's, however, I am prepared to get in on the 9's if I feel the MM's aren't going to take this down some more. Overall, it is just my strategy for now.
Come on .0007's and then lets get moving upward!!!
How do you know news will exactly be tomorrow? Hope you are right about that. I agree, we will see some heavy volume coming up.
I went to the dispensary in Colorado Springs over the weekend (on Tejon Street). They had several customers come in while I was there. One of the employees came out behind the closed doors (inside the building) to talk with me (they keep the MJ in a back room and the employees are also protected by bullet proof glass). She could probably sense I was a tourist, and she answered several questions I had. Most days, they are doing about $5k in sales. The tax rate is about 4% more on MJ vs other items...they are currently low on their supply of MJ, but will have more in soon from the 6 month grow that they have growing for the store. The grow is off site from the store. Sales have steadily been increasing and she seems passionate about selling and where the company is going. As for ERBB ownership, she didn't know anything about it. She did mention "the owner" a couple of times. This leads me to believe that the gal I spoke to at ERBB headquarters said ERBB has ownership of the name/brand and not the store. I'm guessing ERBB has other financial interests/possible funding for the store(s) too. I took some pictures and plan to post them when I get a chance.
Bull, thanks...I was on my honeymoon for a while. I was able to check in on SFOR some of the time, but I feel somewhat out of the loop. Doesn't appear much has changed for a while - revenue needed and "news to come" seems to be what we are all still waiting for. Have a profitable week!
Bull...I hear you about SFOR not being out of the woods yet. Low share prices are low usually for solid reasons. Hoping it is this coming week that news with substance (a real cash register ringer) will happen. If we could get the PhoneFactor and Authentify litigation done, we could move on to capitalizing on the patents once PF and Authentify has lost to SFOR (if it happens that way). I think the lawyers are wanting a solid baseline before moving forward on other cases...I'm betting everyone at SFOR and of course, all of us, are wanting things done yesterday. For now, I'm picking up cheapies and licking my chops for a brighter day ahead...I think we will be rewarded some day for hanging on...seems like Mark and the boys aren't giving up anytime soon and they have had to try and stay patient - they are keeping the ship moving forward in the choppy seas...hopefully the revenue will be here soon to make things a lot less choppy.
Buzz...I am agreeing with you. Not just because you are an "old timer" with SFOR, but you know this company. Mark knows SFOR has been diluting and would tell anyone that if asked him...PERIOD. SFOR does need cash. They will get more...how soon and how much is another thing. Right now, there's a lot of debt and bills to be paid.
Ren, thanks! Lets make some dough!!!
Under the reporting requirements. There are ways of getting large numbers of shares into an entity to go under the reporting requirements (not saying they do that). One way is to split shares up amongst different people within one entity for payment of services/compensation, etc.
Not for anyone in particular and no agenda of any kind. I received a couple of emails from some new people wanting to know more about SFOR. Here's a little history and only my thoughts going forward...
What would you say if we were trading at .0008 and .0009 for the next week or two? And then .0005 and .0007 for the following month. Then, .0004 and .0005 soon after? Those shares that you bought under .002 would kind of be "ugly buys" in comparison since it got walked down so much. You could have had sooo many more millions of shares if you would have waited. You probably thought, the next round of news will pop it up....news comes, and it bounces and falls like a rock.
Isn't going to happen is it? I don't think it will either THIS TIME, but folks - that is exactly what happened before with SFOR. So one point, everyone keeps saying they got in so damn cheap and at such a steal and now we hit 9 today...who really knows where this will go? If litigation goes well and in timely manner - hardly a worry. If it doesn't, you'll be glad you bought many millions because if R/S is brought up again - they might have to do it. Second point, count the money in the bank already if you want to. It is your decision...not looking for or wanting any replies. Lets all make some dough!!!
I hear ya...but there are some major share holders because they get discounted shares for everything from repayment of debt to services rendered, etc. Maybe some of the people that talk to Mark on a daily basis will tell us everything we need to know.
Hello again Hawk! Bit of a frenzy around here today as you can see. If you got in around .001, it could be a wonderful buy. I think if we test .008 between today and Monday, it could be nasty. I don't think we will see that though. A lot of folks here are extremely optimistic about events going on with SFOR. I tend to side on a little caution because deals are often never done as quickly or for as much money to support SFOR operations. So, it comes down to it here. A company with no money, but have some very good things to happen in its future. Welcome along the ride!
Yes, it could be for payment. SFOR has done share payments for a long time because of their cash shortfalls. Whoever said 'prearranged' can very well be right.
The latter of your comments is exactly the result of why we were at the all time low for SFOR 3 weeks ago. Also, they do - from time-to-time have prearranged sales. Why prearranged sales? It is likely due to a need of keeping the ship afloat!
I hope the .009's and .001's are going to be the bottom. Have to see how she trades some more to get a better feel on it. Ready for lower if she happens, but would also be happy just above .001 IF SOLID news happens.
I've watched this like a hawk over the past year - the newbies here haven't seen it before with SFOR (maybe other stocks)...this isn't my first rodeo or the MM's surrounding SFOR. I darn near said it that we would see a couple of big blocks - I didn't but when she swung fast from 14 to 11 with no support at 12...it was going down. I don't call them right all the time, but I've seen the MM's in action A LOT with SFOR.
Not wanting to pat myself on the back, but read my post from about 20 minutes ago about going lower than .001. there is only one way to get there and it isn't from the retail investor!
The signs were there all along!
Seems to be where it was going to bottom out - but now, we can go from 14 to 11 at a drop of a hat. No demand for the 12's...I'm thinking we could be going for a ride. I'm betting lower than .001 - hope not, but there is a fair chance now.
I see MM's could grab 5,000,000 shares at 12 - they don't seem to have demand for them...I'm yanking some of my order at .001 and will buy lower and I am ok at higher IF there is SOLID news. Looking for cheapies! MM's will do there thing!
Got another order in at .001 and will yank it if she goes lower...MM's are work'in it!
Maybe not the most popular guess as to what is going on this morning...could be the MM's that bought at .001 and .0011 feel there is good reason to sell at .13 to all possible takers. As of this posting, if that is the case, nobody is buying 14's. Who knows? MM's are the whores, and can whip everyone's ass if they want to. News with substantial meat to it can whip them (for a while)!
I plan to do just that! I will probably have a better chance to get to the Colorado Springs location/area than Denver. I will see what I can dig up!
Rat...I read your comment too fast and it was my misunderstanding - I thought news/PR was out. Not just a PR would be good, but the event in the PR that rings the cash register in a big way would be nice! I am newer here, and I have to say - I'm not overly crazy about this company - I do hold a position, but I think this will take time for ERBB to really break out because of so many things that have to be done/regulations, etc. Although I'm not and never been a doobie smoker, I'm going to be in Colorado next week and I'm going to check out some of the dispensaries/hopefully get more familiar with the industry/legislation. Make some dough today!
Trucuzzn...thank you for the response to whoever posted about me/what I have posted (their message was deleted). You are SPOT ON what you said...thank you!!! For the newbies here, TRUCUZZN is an "old timer" with SFOR and has seen a lot and knows the history of SFOR (the good, the bad, the ugly) and also understands the potential as well. Thanks again and have a profitable day!
Bull, thank you for the post! To the poster that mentioned it first - I never doubted you or that the info didn't happen. I just wanted to see it. Thanks again Bull...go get them SFOR!
Agree...simpler than Vegas! Nothing wrong with .0012's...people think I'm telling them their investment in SFOR was wrong...that is not the case at all. I like SFOR - but I will never forget the reason why we at all time lows 3 weeks ago. Realistically, we are very close to that now in comparison to having boat loads of money in the bank. Meaning, we are closer to BK right now without money in the bank and waiting on lawsuits to happen. Boy, somebody is going to jump on that statement! No money is no money. If the lawsuits happen in SFOR's favor - BIG TIME DOUGH regardless of where anyone bought at in the past month. Sorry to get lengthy Purdue....just not counting money in the bank before it is deposited!
I'm not anti-SFOR. I'm not a basher...just cautious here because a little bit of history could repeat itself - that's all. For those that don't think dilution will happen - that's ok. Maybe it won't happen and I hope it doesn't. Better to buy lower and average up than average down!
You haven't experienced it (dilution) like most people on this board.. You must be part of the new wave like Hokie and a few others that were attracted to this when the patent news came about. Although I did get caught up in the dilution myself (not as bad as many others did), but I was fortunate to sell and buy back at .0004/.0005...I significantly increased my position, and then the patent news came out. The "old timers" in this can tell you how it walked itself down to .0004/.0005 (all time lows for SFOR). It was dilution! SFOR had to dilute to stay afloat. Have they increased their revenue since the patent announcement - NO! Do I believe in SFOR, I'm here aren't I? Unless you've experienced the dilution with SFOR - you probably won't understand. Anyone chose to be in denial. If anyone thinks that SFOR has a lot of money is fooling themselves. They are struggling financially. If management says, "funds are available" that can also mean funds are available through means of dilution. That has actually happened and can happen again!!!
Glad to see you are pals with him and you are confident! One thing he cannot tell you (legally) is to get in or out (insider trading)...if the dilution machine starts - your pal won't be able to tell you to get out (legally). MOST people here have seen how fast SFOR can drop when the dilution machine occurs (not saying it will - but good chance it can). Those shares around .002 and down to .0012 won't look so good then. If dilution happens, one says to themselves, "If I would have waited I could have TRIPLED the number of shares I own." Hmmm...lets see what happens. I do hope SFOR succeeds and it doesn't dilute.
Wow, Belinda chimed in! Good to hear from you. Think we will see heavy dilution again between now and Q3? Thanks!
Not going against you on this one Hokie, but there's a lot of IF's that have to happen first (which you also know). Not counting any chickens before they are hatched, but IF SFOR wins against PhoneFactor and Authentify - the gloves are off and this thing will be a licensing and lawsuit factory. BIG TIME DOUGH!!! Unfortunately, it is going to take many many many months to see if SFOR is victorious. You are right, WhiteSky will help put some dough in the bank in the meantime - question is, will it be enough? Hope to never hear SFOR ever needing to make a decision to add more shares or reverse split. SFOR is hanging on by a thread and if it survives the test of time and wins these lawsuits - it will be wonderful. Time will tell!
illini...have a link to that for us to see? Thanks!!!
Lately nobody has been interested in the bid or ask prices. I still think there is a reasonable chance MM's are going to knock it down again. However, they haven't attacked the bid much...kind of a good sign it might stay close to where it is at without any kind of news.