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The conversation has little to do with current events really. Shares were dispersed and warrants too to Epic sub investors. Much of it almost 2 years ago. Much of the more recent dispersed shares went to Elite Directors who would file if they sold.
And again means nothing. Epic will sell some shares. They have to pay Elite for milestones. This brings in and sets up revenue streams to Elite with no cost to Elite. Funny how that very key item gets missed.
Yes, it is true that multiple form 4s are submitted, but you only have to look at the main one Epic investments to get the actual number. The only time number diverge is when they are distributed to one of the directors and then show up at that director's individual holdings. Simple really
Considering the misinformation, it would seem that a leak is making more and more sense. The key is that if the Naltrexone doesn't leak, it is not likely to leak in any of the products. Truly cha ching!!! And I am not prone to hyperbole.
Dr L,
Can you answer Pharma Sleuths question? You keep claiming all this selling, so what is the actual % of their shares they actually sold?
Ok. To clear up your misinformation, you can't just add up the form 4s because you need to understand that multiple form 4s are submitted for each transaction. Then you need to understand that key members changed resulted in less form 4s needed per transaction.
It is actually about 76m, but can you tell me why?
Again dispersing doesn't mean selling. The misinformation here is not noting that the later shares were dispersed to directors of the company who would have to file form 4s if they sold. So many claims of all this selling, yet what is the actual %? Not even 10%
The inventor was an awful businessman and was part of the reason Elite almost went bankrupt falling off the Amex. Brilliant scientist though. Investors are glad he is no longer involved. But again not really relavent.
Are you trying to say that Isradipine is about to be approved and launch? Because that would make sense. Say is it true that Isradipine only has one competitor?
Actually it was your claim that one bead IP would be worth 3.3 billion dollars. Who knew that Elite had the same technology as Pfizer and Alpharma?
Say who was at Alpharma and Actavis and has noted over and over that Elite's tech was superior?
Oh yeah former global VP at Actavis overseeing 3000 employees and 25 global facilities, now known as Elite's CEO
Dr L
Speaking of market share and products what product do you think is about to be announced in 8 days for trials?
I am no doctor, not even a full blown narcissist but facts is facts. Heck there are discussions occurring with major pharmas too that we know about.
You have multiple catalysts and events
Trial results for 2.7b oxy continue
Unnamed ART product about to trial in 8 days
Patent about to be announced.
Or it could easily be the numerous drugs pending approval and transfer.
It can't be. Has to be compromised brokerage houses buying their own shares. The only question is how can this be possible will Epic doing all this selling as claimed by the same folks?
Such a juxtaposition of ideas. I think my two cat scenario just became more likely.
Riiiight. Someone bought only their own 800 thousand dollars in Stock today. Got it thanks....
All those huge bids and huge buys on the ask. They weren't real...they were compromised mortgage houses. Says what MMs were on the bid and ask today?
It is a secret pump and dump. I started it and told my two cats. But you can't keep those two quiet for a minute.
Next trials start in 8 days for unnamed product. Previous trials completed 10 days ago for 2.7b oxy.
Anyone have a patent update?
That is a very important statement. It is really the only thing that matters at this point imo.
Hey Dr L
So what Art product is going to be announced in 10 days? Embeda? Oxy IR? Once daily Oxy?
Anyone got a patent update?
Say what product did you say was about to be announced on Jan 10th? I am buying more soon too!!
It could be but it could be the unnamed Oxycodone product Nasrat mentioned too. Perhaps an IR product...Amazing stuff. Lots of folks trying to manipulate which has been obvious in the trading...
Now that is the truth. Funny all the discussion today but not much negativity about anything the company is actually doing. We have Nasrat's resume does not include the deals he has made. Although has anyone actually seen his resume? A link would be nice.
And then we have weird illogical conjecture not based on what Elite is actually doing.
And on the positive side it is simply the facts of what the company is doing.
Patent award about to be announced too.....hmmm
10 days till next ART product is announced...starting larger trials....
That is more misinformation. Really I only see your claim as basically irrelevant and continually proven wrong until you change the argument to something else irrelevant. There is a tie between IPCI actually. One is that they were sued and settled with Celgene over patent infringement. And where did Celgene get those patents?
From little Elite Pharma. Now here is the LOL part.....The inventor of those patents obviously does not work for Celgene. Again not really that relevant but sure is funny considering your continued emphasis about the inventor of Elite's tech not being at Elite....or would that be ironic instead....lol
Pretty obvious you do not have the data otherwise just present it. Even though the whole argument is basically irrelevant and just an odd distraction and has little bearing on Elite. Endo uses similar manufacturing and what happened to them? Not considered ADT.
Truth is there is little info out there on Rexista. And truth also is that it is irrelevant as I note...
Unless you are arguing that Elite may only get part of an $800m market....is that what you are saying? Elite my only be able to garner a portion of an $800m market with one of their four ADT products that we know about?
Same with $2.7b oxy. Elite will probably only capture a portion of that market. Oh noooo the horror of only seeing my investment increase by 25x instead of 200x. What will I do?
Street junkies know they can get high off of the current physical barrier products. Really not all that complicated.
Trials for $2.7b Oxy completed. Next trials for unnamed next Art product to start Jan 10th....12 days from now..Once daily Oxy in three months or is that on Jan 10th...
Drug approvals pending, transfers pending, record high revenues projected, patents being awarded....lol
Multiple recipes online for defeating physical barrier Oxy. Pharmacological is a much better approach. Real doctors agree with that too...
Relax lol, trials completed, next product to be announced round about Jan 10th, products pending approval, launch, transfer, patents awarded, record financials coming too...
turn that frown upside down...LOL
Are you saying Elite's product starting trials on Jan 10th is for once a day Oxycodone? Lol could be...
Relax lol, I am sure Elite's CTO is plenty qualified. How many Art products are they moving forward with again? Can you tell me that number?
How many drug approvals and drug transfers are due now?
Trials finished a few days ago on 2.7 billion dollar Oxy. Trials starting in 12 days on unnamed Art product...
Anyone got a patent update...lol
Lol. Sure. Thanks for trying to save me from my investment strategy but this company is incredibly undervalued on ART alone. So I am good here.
While you continue to advocate that everyone should be selling their shares, I think I will hold onto mine. I made my car payments this month so I am good. Even bought my Christmas presents. Say what do you think this next product starting trials in 2 weeks is going to be?
Was that the post where Couch spoke to Nasrat and we learned there is interest from a major pharmacy in buying the whole thing? Meaning the company?
Actually multiple big pharmas. Why did the CO buy 11m shares before he came to Elite and take a salary in shares? Some of the other items I never heard anyone say.
You should read the SA article. It would clear up some of them items you just incorrectly noted. Cash flow payback on the AND AS for example.
What I find interesting about your post is it doesn't access added value to the company in any tangible way and only focuses on pps.
By the way got a link to anything you just posted because I never heard Nasrat say any of it.
So Couch proved your information incorrect and now you are talking about RS. Sounds more like to me that the company will get bought out before that is a consideration anyway. And not all stocks go down due to RS. And if the RS happened it would likely be accompanied by a partnership or other major news....but the stock price will be far higher then it is now to even think about.....unless you are looking to buy shares now ....lol
And I thought it was all about charts....
Market is closed right now. But it will open at 9:30am tomorrow and close at 1pm. It is closed Wednesday because that is Christmas.
I always find it curious when traders profess knowing when to buy and sell. Seems to me if I was that good, I would be retired by now.
How many retired people have you heard say, oh I made my money trading penny stocks?
But I have heard people that retire saying they made an investment that really paid off. And I have heard others say if they had held onto their shares, they would be retired.
Just an observation.
First trials ended yesterday.
"poorme" - Yeah so all the companies in the world that do R&D are worthless and all those investors in the world that invest in them are stupid. Got it.
Say can you tell me how many ART products are planned for trials in the current and near term?
Listen to the video that Care gave you. Elite's tech is about delivery. And they obviously already met with the FDA through Camargo.....that much is also clear.
And the FDA would have given the process the green light as well.
Thanks for the info Care. Very nice indeed.
Say Dr L, what product did you say was coming to trials on Jan 10th?
You want real questions. No BS?
Does the company get bought out before or after they get an approval?
Is the company partnered with a major pharma before or after the pivotal BE study in March for twice daily Oxy?
Does the company partner with the Eurpoean company for once daily Oxy to get trial results that could be used for the PH3 trials in March?
Does Elite decide to license out their tech or manufacture the products themselves?
I see numerous links. And your claims are speculation and Camargo is actually the leading expert. I think I am going to believe them and their experience and recommendations to Elite as stated by the CEO. And if they need to do a PH3 trial? Who gives a crap?
This is what is known as a red herring argument meaning we are arguing about something that is not really that germain to the big picture.
4 ART products, 20 approved drugs, 10-20 more in various stages of development and approval.
First trial ends in 5 days!!!!!
Next one coming up. That is called adding value....
So who do you think this partner is going to be....lol lol
Hey Dr L
One bead IP is worth 3 billions dollars?
Two bead IP is worth ?
Awesome...lol
Aren't you speculating that Elite will need ph3 trials when 505(B)(2) trials through Camargo can go a number of ways but obviously abbreviated and less costly NDA nonetheless? I see numerous links here to that effect. Seems those opposed to your speculation are presenting facts with links to the contrary. LOL LOL