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I also think PSPM could go down some more in pps if no (significant) news is released. The kind of sell off that occurred on Friday -- to that degree -- signifies that there are vultures out there trying to deflate the pps, maybe to get in at a lower price. The drop in pps coincides with the descent of vultures like Floyd onto this and also the yahoo board. It seems obvious to me that there are players with an interest in lowering the pps of PSPM. Everything suggests that PSPM will be on the rise again soon, and it is so much potential to be a major player in the lighting industry. Patience will pay off. Buy on the dips and hold. That's my own opinion.
I'm considering buying more, but I think it could go lower as well -- not sure what the optimal buy in would be. Any guesses?
I'm betting on the dividend being paid for potential big return, optimizing # of shares with next purchase if I do buy more.
And would Dr. Fischer really meet on a personal level with a small timer having already invested significantly if it was a scam? Wouldn't that be uncomfortable?
On another note, how low is this going to go...any guesses?
Can anyone tell me as efficiently as possible, in layman's terms, if GERN seems to be a winner this year? A friend of mine thinks this could go to $60-$70 rapidly! WTF?
Is this the best play on stem cells or breakthrough research? why? is there a better, more sure bet out there? Which companies stand to benefit the most?
Thanks for any genuine considerations that you have. And how certain on a scale of confidence are you?
Thanks in advance.
wff...
I have no idea!
I messed up again today penny pinching to buy in!
it's not pulling back like it did...people see, like I do...that big announcements and eventual pps are going up big so getting in now! I missed a couple/few K more shares at a lower price!
what is the best buy in...just buy it now?
all i care about is the pps of ANVH. i'm not giving that much credit to the bashers. perhaps anvh just isn't what it claims to be. if it isn't certain, it is in part their fault. the pps is pathetic. obviously the bashers are right in some sense...it would've been wise to sell it short for a long while now. The market is saying ANVH is a piece of....and not worth investing in, unless you just like to throw money into the wind and watch it evaporate. . .it's fun. you should try it....buy ANVH?
Or load up the Fing truck? YOu tell me??? I'm watching the PPS!
honestly I haven't paid too much attention to these comments. I sort of skim various posts, perhaps too critically screening some out as "noise," and in any case considering my background inclination of being stuck with currently "worthless" stock and not willing to sell or really hear much that would lead me to sell given the situation, BUT...
Can you give me the gist of what I should take away from "level 2 concerns"?
It's amazing to think that I can get 100K shares of this for $500, and at the same time on my tight budget have second thoughts...third and fourth thoughts even...whether that is just throwing money down the toilet...it's really up for grabs, and that's the only reason it can be so low right now....if their news was obviously true, who would sell for .004ish? or anywhere close?
you either believe the pr's or you don't. and until the first dividend ought to be paid, I am sitting on the sidelines (eating $...) until then. Failing to pay the dividend as stated is unacceptable, and I will immediately become a basher if they fail to deliver on it in the circumstances.
If they execute on the dividend, the jury is still somewhat out without further validation, but it is some reassurance (at least until continued dividend payments are made and other developments)....
I think the news we hear is hard to prove (for me at least), and webs can be spun to make you see things in one light versus the other...
i am simply too invested to sell anywhere near these levels, and given that I made the decision to buy on my overall assessment, I will live and die, flourish or founder, so to speak as a result of my decision and have no intention to sell for a significant loss...even if I lose big.
Counting on PSPM to save me, even if all of my other stocks go to zero (SIRI, ANVH...)
You're welcome...
My friend did stop by (close to his work), but he was unable to get in -- it was invite only, the utility companies, etc.
I can't wait to see what comes out of the San Diego and Dubai trips!
That's awesome. Thanks for the posting.
Reaffirms that it was cool for me to meet with Dr. Fischer.
I'm holding on in hopes eventually pps will turn around and investors gain confidence in ANVH.
That is the positive scenario...
I do have a friend who is going to try and stop by. I will be sure to report his response if he makes it.
I increased my shares even at .245 because I'm expecting good news to come out of PSPM's tour de force through San Diego, Dubai, etc...and it seems PSPM has the hot product for the lighting industry with everything in place NOW, so any day I think we should start seeing the sales announcements...just how many and how big?
I think PSPM will be a force in the middle east at least with the Dubai group's backing...not to mention probable success in the US and so on.
i got in at a high .05ish pps though, so dividends will take a while for me to recover my 250K shares or so, assuming it pays beyond and at least these next 4 quarters.
Beyond that. If it makes it to .04pps, I'm about even and making money fast after that -- go $1 pps someday?? !!
I should've sold at .12-.15 and re-invested?
Or else...put it All on PSPM! .... my last hope if ANVH bombs!
I am just sitting on my shares, hoping for a miracle to occur. First test anyway is: will the dividend be paid? - that will help. A surprise out of right field -- sort of a surprise, would be an uplift to a higher exchange....
These happen, or...this really is a scam and we're going even lower...
Bruce Fischer has not responded to my email in a long time, so it's anybodys' guess. I hope there are more webinars and legitimacy to come. The "news" is good.
I am riding these to zero or much higher -- win or lose in the extreme!
Yeah, I've been following this for a while now too, in at my lowest .13pps, and hoping they make it to at least .59 pps -- and I will break even (recover all my other losses), and past that is gravy! I think PSPM will be at least $1 by the end of this year, and that seems conservative. Anyone else care to venture an educated guess?
I've just discovered ITRO. At .0024/share, it seems I am getting in early on this potential gem.
Can any of you speak to me in laymans terms about the real prospects of ITRO in this year and beyond. At these levels...making it to .01/pps is a 400% gain. How likely is that an in what time frame -- educated responses please...I am a newbie.
If I put even $300 on this, it seems I can get 125K shares...it seems hard to go wrong...
their silver production capacity seems to be rising very much in 09 and 2010...environmental friendly...
what is the downside risk, if any? what is the time frame for likely gains from here...
This is a pinksheet...is this company fully vetted and for realy....is there an upside limit...how big of a market is this...?
at these levels....this niche market is new to me too...would you guys put you mother's money in on this one?
thanks for any educated advice. Please refrain if you are clueless...
I think you had to be in on the stock prior to 12/31 to get the dividend.
This pps is ridiculously low if the news is all true.
It's nice to save what you can I guess, but imagine how bad that is going to suck if you get out now and the pps does indeed recover or even take off? I'm not selling...If I lose it all, oh well.
It's true, Bruce rattled off those 3 audit firms when I met with him as the potential auditors. I haven't heard anything from him since, but it's not comforting to know that none of these firms seem to have ANVH as a client, but I am waiting to see what is said about the audit etc etc in the CC. Maybe there is more to the story...(we can only hope!)
Everything seems to be going wrong, and there is not a lot of reason for optimism at this point, but I've lose so much already that I can only hope this "webinar" will provide some redeeming information...
Maybe I'm just a sucker through and through, but I'd lose so much if I sold now that it seems better to wait and hope for a miracle, even if I would save some "change" by selling at these levels...in other words, I'm probably going to ride this to either zero or up...at least to .04 to get my money back...but if it made it there presumably I'd have reason to hold and make a profit.
It definitely hurts to see that I've most likely screwed myself on this one. If that's the case, Obviously Bruce is a real charlatan and had the nerve to even meet with me after so much trust and everything else...so again, I can only hope that in the end there is enough legitimacy to keep some value from my investment...
I found this comment from garyduhamel on the yahoo finance message board for ANVH under the heading "Hiding from an Audit" to be informative, and I eagerly wait to see what info is presented to us during the online meeting this month:
" I recently spent over an hour on the phone with Dr. Bruce Fisher the CEO of Avelon Group (the major stock holder of Anviron). I found him to be a very engaging and forthright individual. Did you know that since Anviron has projects or is doing business in 13 countries that an audit will cost in excess of $200,000 to complete? Now do you think a small micro-cap company just getting started might have a better use for those funds right now? Here is an update:
1) Funds for an audit are being escrowed now. Audit by end of fiscal.
2) Dividend funds have been escrowed for the next 4 quarters. (.001*4= .004).004/.012 = 33% annual dividend at current PPS
3)Several large projects are in MOU form, will be contracts in FY09.
I like what I see and hear from this group. Should have 2M shares by the end of Dec."
What happened to Moshe? I just noticed he's not a moderator here now.
I was able to scrap up enough $ to get another 106K shares today, hopefully near the bottom! I hope we will see an up trend from here.
I agree with that.
Honestly I have no idea where we will be in a year, but if Fischer's approximate time line for audited financials and move the the BB are correct = I would think ANVH is worth far more than .02/share.
There are a number of issues involved, but Fischer seems capable in his role, genuine, and he was reassuring to me on a personal level that in 5 years time, I will be very happy with my investment. Even in 6 months time, he seems to suggest I will be relatively happy...he didn't say when he expects ANVH to be at $1 pps, and I don't know either, but I think the audited financials and move to BB will be significant, and furthermore ANVH has already outperformed expectations, and given the virtues of their product line and so on -- I would anticipate more good things to come and eventual increase in pps to dollar land and beyond.
Thank you for bringing this up.
All three potential U.S. auditors have gone through some DD process to qualify ANVH -- and they have all qualified ANVH.
ANVH is now deciding on the particular Auditor that they will go with, according to Fischer, so this in itself, if you have confidence in Fischer, provides some initial reassurance.
I thought it would be useful for a recap, shortened version, of my interview with Bruce Fischer published here previously:
Audited Financials are on the way, and with these in place it is estimated by Fischer that ANVH will move to the Bulletin Board by JAN/FEB of 09:
...audited financials?
They've had some work done there already with Bower Association in London/German. Numbers completed with them are through end of June and not PCAOB certified.
They are deciding among 3 American auditors to crunch the numbers here:
(roughly) 1. Price Waterhouse 2. Deloit 3. Grant Thornton
At least one of these will "certify"(review) at least the June 30 audit. Seems they will also review 1st quarter sept end and 2nd qtr dec. (about 30 days)
2. Are there plans to increase ANVH's pps?
Answer: "Yes"
-- Cash based IR directions. Developing Plans. Fischer knows there is a short interest in ANVH and is doing something about it.
ANVH still buying back shares. They are no longer paying promoters with shares!
3. plans to boost stock price...thailand?
--MOU is signed and lawyers working on definitive contracts.
complicated language. 5 languages involved and attorneys hammering out legal agreements. Contracts should be definitive by Nov/Dec. watch for PR's.
Bruce estimates that ANVH is on the Bulletin Board by around Jan 15?...after 2nd quarter financials are posted!
Getting to the BB doesn't depend on ANVH's stock price but the audited financials being completed, and will be soon.
there are major deals going on for ANVH now, and ANVH is doing significantly better than expected (hear exact numbers on earlier interview confirmed/reasserted to me today).
The Thailand deal is a "joint venture." ANVH is focused on Agriculture: mine deals and private buisness included in: West Africa, the middle east and Thailand, from 16 grown to 21 clients I believe, starting from the roadbinder, spreading with connections...big deals now and to come.
Here are some notes I jotted down:
-Projects coming at us
--complicated nature of legal contracts and the Thailand deal -- but it is a DONE DEAL. ANVH is in on that mining project and it is like some portion of the size of Connecticut (and other analogies Bruce gave "bigger than Phoenix" to represent the anormity of the land acquired on which ANVH's products will be used. Fischer is in some sense the cheerleader.
a sort of prediction (thailand mine area i believe): 1st year product sales 80 million (actually 16 months). then ongoing 25-30 million/year thereafter! you heard me.
They have put in something like a 14 million investment into this project, I believe, ANVH...an investment into the land on which their products will be used or something like that.
They are expanding operations in the Thailand area and from which they will do business in the Asian markets generally.
Question: Aqua Gem and how it helps ANVH?
ANVH only did this for the licenses involved ... competing with other "dredging?" companies.
-going after US by joint venture
1 1/2 - 3 million. 2.5 % business of ANVH is US sales -- not a big deal
(thai gov't joint venture ========= 80 - 100 million+)
-Agricultural play
On scams:
out of all pinks combined, more lost on AMEX -- billions in 3 weeks, compared to money lost on scams on pinks: am I (me) the average investor: 150k shares of ANVH === probably not. the average of us -- we are the "eyes on ANVH" (on this board==small number)...no eyes on ANVH yet...need to get on BB and will soon, campaign against the short interest in ANVH and so on. I will be happy in 5 years...probably in 6 months...
ANVH won't his $1 until at least ANVH is on the BB.
--Brokers cannot recommend ANVH to clients, by law, until ANVH is on the BB. ANVH is predicted by Bruce to be on the BB by JAN/Feb 09. There is also a campaign being waged against the shorts, but he did not go into the specifics. It seems 60k has been spent on the effort, however -- and it is a quality group doing the job
audited financials are on the way. With that kind of verification in place, ANVH has a lot more GREEN to come.
Until then, as was said by another, you either have some trust or reason to believe the spokesperson(s) for the company or not -- I think Fischer is doing a fine job and seems to be genuine. The market pps of ANVH will eventually catch up with this reality. Get in while it is so cheap.
Meeting with Bruce Fischer:
It was cool to meet Bruce Fischer and a privilege. What sustained my confidence in the beginning and what continues to make me a believer now is: Bruce Fischer (and props to Moshe Goldberg as well)> wish i would've asked bruce how/if he knows you.
well, i have to apologize in the beginning, that I am not Moshe Goldberg, but I did meet with Bruce Fischer. What you can know is that I was a real and genuinely interested guy, investor in ANVH 150k shares strong (down from .061 avg), meeting with Bruce Fischer, and I was attempting to establish the human connection, taking notes and listening all at the same time, from a pt. of view that lacks mastery in financial markets and principles...however my impression is that Bruce Fischer knows what he is doing; he is also realistic about the situation and: I will be HAPPY!!!$$$$$$ in 5 years, and happy in 6 months....
whether or not in 2 weeks...
He mentions how the current depression in stock price reflects a number of things: ANVH has something like 600 public investors only and that is nothing -- there are no eyes on ANVH right now. "9 million shares sold with nobody watching, maybe 200-500 watching" = ANVH is under the radar. The market is horrible also. keep in mind far more money as been lost on AMEX than pink companies.
Fischer is aware that there is a short interest on this stock, another factor in current pps. There is a "campaign" being waged on the shorts by Fischer and team ANVH.
....but he is not concerned about the stock price as it pertains to the fundamentals of ANVH (he doesn't care about "chart talk" on this board...and neither do I) -- ANVH has some millions in the bank, not outrageous, and is good to go -- not going bankrupt anytime soon and not dependent on stock sales. Some numbers of shares would've already been dumped if it was a scam (and I don't think would have met with me...). He is not worried about the stock price in the sense that what he is concerned about is with the development of the business as he has said elsewhere, and he mentioned that ANVH even responded to the investors concerns expressed here by buying back stock, I believe 22,000 so far and more to come, as well as the 3 year restriction on those convertible privileged shares.
Now then, I hope you are enjoying this so far. It was great to meet Bruce and a very nice day, I might add, in AZ. I let my class out an hour early to meet Bruce, but I would not have had to because he is a busy guy, and I didn't mind waiting at the nice Hyatt hotel in Scottsdale with a nice view and so on until I met him a bit later than anticipated, but not more than an hour more. His voice mail as of today was current on the cell phone: "it is october 23..." He seems to be a busy guy, but he has a lot of good things going for him and ANVH...he seems legit to me and though I may well have missed important facts and figures thrown at me while I was trying to get along with him and not being an expert and not wanting to repeat things too much, ... I could've been even more thorough here, but anyway:
Here was a question that I cared about a lot myself:
What is the latest plan for audited financials?
Response:
They've had some work done there already with Bower Association in London/German. Numbers completed with them (I think) are through end of June and not PCAOB certified.
(notes say "required for 5")
--"in compliance with contracts" (next thing in my notes)
There is a plan to move up to the bulletin board. This is perceived to be accomplished by Jan/Feb 09.
They are deciding among 3 American auditors to crunch the numbers here:
(roughly) 1. Price Waterhouse 2. Deloit 3. Grant Thornton
At least one of these will "certify"(review) at least the June 30 audit, and companies are related with London auditor somehow to smooth along the process. Seems they will also review 1st quarter sept end and 2nd qtr dec. (I believe review takes about 30 days)
more to come...
2. Are there plans to increase ANVH's pps?
Answer: "Yes"
-- Cash based IR directions. Developing Plans. There is a campaign underway. Fischer knows there is a short interest in ANVH and is doing something about it. He is a very smart man.
ANVH still buying back shares. He doesn't like that he gave away shares to promoters that he has to buy back now "paying for it twice." They are no longer paying promoters with shares! Cash money is paid now.
3. What can we expect to boost stock price...thailand?
--MOU is signed and lawyers working on definitive contracts.
complicated language. 5 languages involved and attorneys hammering out legal agreements. Contracts should be definitive by Nov/Dec. watch for PR's.
Bruce estimates that ANVH is on the Bulletin Board by around Jan 15?...after 2nd quarter financials are posted!
Getting to the BB doesn't depend on ANVH's stock price but the audited financials being completed, and will be soon, and so on - ANVH is working on all that.
Primary focus is *on the business*
he expressed sympathy for those who bought at 12C and are down to two cents now, and he does care about you and the stock price and is putting effort into raising pps (he has millions of shares with AValon himself and "they are not selling"), at the same time, he is really focused on just growing the company and there are major deals going on for ANVH now, and as he expresses in his early interviews, the enthusiasm, ANVH is doing significantly better than expected (hear exact numbers on earlier interview confirmed/reasserted to me today).
The Thailand deal is a "joint venture." ANVH is focused on Agriculture it seems. Forget about the golf Turfsolve for now. The retail market was thought to be a possible direction to go in after making the BB but the mine deals and other buisness included in: West Africa, the middle east and Thailand, among possible others involving agriculture, from 16 grown to 21 clients I believe, starting from the roadbinder I believe, spreading with connections to the other aspects and products...ANVH is making strides...big deals now and to come.
Here are some notes I jotted down:
-Projects coming at us
Avalon/Mining co/Thailand group
5 entities in joint venture. attorneys, issues, 5 languages.
Consider: "What is the definition of 'it'" - Bill Clinton
--complicated nature of legal contracts and the Thailand deal -- but it is a DONE DEAL. ANVH is in on that mining project and it is like some portion of the size of Connecticut (and other analogies Bruce gave "bigger than Phoenix" to represent the anormity of the land acquired on which ANVH's products will be used. Fischer is in some sense the cheerleader. He is making the deals. He is the director of Avalon who has mad shares of ANVH and is not dumping into the market.
a sort of prediction (thailand mine area i believe): 1st year product sales 80 million (actually 16 months). then ongoing 25-30 million/year thereafter! you heard me.
They have put in something like a 14 million investment into this project, I believe, ANVH...an investment into the land on which their products will be used or something like that.
They are expanding operations in the Thailand area and from which they will do business in the Asian markets generally.
Question: Aqua Gem and how it helps ANVH?
- "read the PR" the manager and so on of Aqua are irrelevant to ANVH, drug charges or anything is irrelevant. ANVH only did this for the licenses involved ... competing with other "dreding?" companies.
-going after US by joint venture
1 1/2 - 3 million. 2.5 % business of ANVH is US sales -- not a big deal == (me: seems to be ANVH is not dependent on US economy! but some few more millions...not the biggest part of ANVH it seems...Thailand deal seems to be the big project and what's going down in West Africa, or middle east...)
(thai gov't joint venture ========= 80 - 100 million?)
-Agricultural play
On scams:
out of all pinks combined, more lost on AMEX -- billions in 3 weeks, compared to money lost on scams on pinks: am I (me) the average investor: 150k shares of ANVH === probably not. the average of us -- we are the "eyes on ANVH" (on this board==small number)...no eyes on ANVH yet...need to get on BB and will soon, campaign against the short interest in ANVH and so on. I will be happy in 5 years...probably in 6 months...
ANVH won't his $1 until at least ANVH is on the BB.
--Brokers cannot recommend ANVH to clients, by law, until ANVH is on the BB. ANVH is predicted by Bruce to be on the BB by JAN/Feb 09. There is also a campaign being waged against the shorts, but he did not go into the specifics. It seems 60k has been spent on the effort, however -- and it is a quality group doing the job. they have a nice track record. (but he did seem to doubt that the FCC? would really do anything about the promoters who seem to have obviously been in violation of something === "pump and dump" -- that doesn't mean they won't crap their pants while Bruce and ANVH try to do something).
the pink sheets, says bruce, on the other hand "are slimy." He mentioned share numbers and the kind of volume that has occurred seems to imply =========== naked shorting.
To all the SHORTS === my words ==== http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sei-eEjy4g
Back to the interview (on scams):
-(I think in regard to ANVH shares): 75 million and cleared "144 requirements"
BUT these have not been converted, and ANVH does not need to dilute the shares and whatnot. THese shares would've been sold at something like 6 months and one day. They weren't sold.
Bruce is not concerned by the pps right now per se of ANVH, even as he is aware of and doing things to adress it; he is focused more on the business as stated and so on...how they are doing so much better than expected...
And Audited finacials will be out relatively soon.
Toward the end:
ANVH paid promoters the equivalent of something like 9 million shares to create awareness, and they did a pump and dumb campaign. Let me put it is Bruce's approximate words:
(more or less) "We got Fu^#@%! by the promoters -- it wasn't even a love affair. It was like a jail house rape."
It appears that there will be a lawsuit. They will not necessarily be prosecuted by the FCC or whatever it is, but they might crap their pants so to speak.
About Bruce's education, I didn't care to press for exact details there, but he acknowledged certain interests on this board for example, at some point, and said he would post his educational credentials "on the website"
I will follow up with a request for his adviser just out of curiosity and such and to verify, but I didn't press that detail in our meeting.
End of the day: Bruce Fischer sustains my confidence in ANVH and the eventual price appreciation of its pps. If ANVH is worth 150k for me on a $9,300 investment in 5 years ========= to me, that is a good investment. If you think so too, invest in ANVH now and Fu^#@%! the shorts!
I think Bruce and ANVH are legit, but do your own DD.
I will be sure to express your concerns to Bruce when I see him later today and follow up on the validity or lack thereof on such claims.
To answer your question in Bruce Fishcer's words: "I have a BS geology; BS accounting/business; BS civil engineering; BS military science; MBA; JD; MS environmenatal engineering; PhD environmental engineering"
That is Bruce's very impressive educational background.
Also, I am scheduled to meet with him later this afternoon, so I will report either later this evening or in the morning about whatever information I can gather from the questions I have and you guys have posed for me.
Those are all great questions, and I have taken note of them, in addition to Beerclark's request about audited financials...many questions similar to mine.
I agree with Papacoco about Bruce's graciousness to meet with the likes of me, and it has been my correspondence with him in the past and I hope tomorrow as well that gives me reassurance that ANVH is for real and a great company despite its PPS recently.
I will be taking down any other questions you guys have and will bring them up with Bruce when I hopefully see him tomorrow. He has been corresponding with me briefly as he is on his way arriving tonight, and I expect to have a better plan as to the details of meeting with him later.
I may meet Bruce Fischer tomorrow as he is going to be in Scottsdale, AZ - my state. I'm trying to work out the details now for meeting him.
Would anyone like to suggest questions for me to ask him, in case that I am able to do so, and whatever answers/info that I am able to get, I will be happy to provide afterward.
Thanks Righty.
Can you tell me when the audited financials are supposed to be completed/released, approximately? Would that serve as conclusive proof to the skeptics?
Also, with the anticipated audits completed and the expected numbers, can you or anyone provide a reasonable approximate in terms of the PPS that ANVH should be worth?
How do we have so many buys over sells and end up down for the day?
Thanks for the reply and info. I will hope the case for optimism on ANVH prevails as I am invested heavily relative to my budget -- my biggest investment in a single company -- and don't plan to sell anytime soon. I've simply been frustrated to not see the good things I hear about ANVH reflected in the PPS (and hopefully the "2 ton elephant is gone," although I believe something like that has been claimed before -- still, I hope with the rest of investors in ANVH that its PPS does eventually reflect...
And thanks for the private comment(s) that I am unable to respond to with having only a free membership here -- I just found out that I can't reply to private mail, but I appreciate the mail.
Thank you Moshe and to the others who responded to me. I've forwarded all relevant comments to my friend, including the doubters who allude to the mysterious clients.
I've exchanged emails with Fischer, have been impressed by the numbers, impressed by the DD and commentary of Moshe in particular and some others -- and taking all the commentary in...
And to me it just doesn't add up and I can't make rational sense of the situation.
As I posted recently, my investment in PSPM is holding up, though I am still a bit down on it, at .14 on the *promise* of future income (and it's unclear that said future income will be that much bigger than ANVH's supposed current and future income), but ANVH has had greater volume than PSPM (basis of comparison) -- and so market awareness -- plus bigger numbers RIGHT NOW, and it is getting slaughtered in the .03's ---- less than my entry point and down from .12-.15!!!
I NEVER EXPECTED to see ANVH in this price range again. I don't even know if I could invest more in ANVH now, even if I had money --- simply because the market is not respecting the news of ANVH, and that is reflected in the pps.
Furthermore, ANVH seems to be entering the slow period of the year with the good news behind them. What reasons for optimism are there now? Is PSPM my last hope (even though I have more shares of ANVH)?
If only the news and rational arguments were correlated with the PPS...........Bruce Fischer certainly seems like a good and very intelligent guy, Moshe Goldberg and so on, but why are we down so bad, even with a tough market...considering the likes of PSPM for comparison.
I'm just curious??? How is ANVH showing strength in the .03-.04 range?
I am a rookie, I admit...
I've also invested in PSPM also, and it is trading at .14/pps right now on the promise of future income.
Meanwhile, ANVH is supposedly already making millions with millions more to come in the future, and it crashed from .14 to <.02, and now it is barely in the .03's with more good news out recently even.
I REALLY DON'T get it. I appreciate any form of enlightenment anyone can possibly give me, and believe me, I am in the hole with ANVH with 150K shares at .061 pps average.
I just don't get it.
The market just doesn't seem to believe the numbers. The volume seems to have been strong enough to suggest that it is not the case that the market is simply ignorant of ANVH's news.
Thanks for the response, but could you correct the posting you were referring to? 43021 is too big.
I've suggested ANVH as an investment idea to a friend of mine. Can anyone help me address the following concerns of his most effectively (and will be of benefit to all of us as (potential) investors in ANVH):
"I'm concerned that mine reclamation is not a high volume proposition. Mines typically undergo minimum reclamation during operations, with total reclamation occurring only once operations are complete. As mines operate for several years, there may not be a lot of opportunity for business.
It seems more promising on the fertilizer side. However, agribusiness in the growth economies cited as opportunities by ANVH's own literature (developing nations in Asia) may behave consistent with agribusiness in other developing economies (e.g., South America) by not caring about nurturing soil productivity when it may be easier and cheaper to raze and cultivate new fields through slash and burn techniques. This technology may make more sense for old agricultural land where soil condition has been eroded over time (i.e., developed agricultural economies).
Do you know if there is any first hand information/testimonials from companies that are buying ANVH's products in high volume?"
Thanks for any help in addressing these concerns.
I don't know what to say. I am completely at a loss. Obviously the market thinks ANVH is a scam, and I am sucker. I obviously should've sold on the last run up. How did we go from .14/.15 to where we are today -- I never saw this coming.
I feel completely ridiculous. I can't believe how low this pps is! I didn't sell because I thought ANVH was going higher. Obviously I don't know anything, and all of the PR's of ANVH are lies! That's the only explanation for the pps of ANVH! is there any way out of this???? I am so screwed if not...
Given the stock price, the jury is out, but I've listened to Bruce Fischer's interviews available online, and I've communicated with him by email -- my personal opinion is that he is genuine, legit, very intelligent and so on. You have to decide for yourself.
I've said before, this is either a total scam and worth nothing or else it is true and worth a hell of a lot more than .02!
I've also been impressed by Moshe Goldberg's apparent DD and comments, but is he in on the scam? you have to decide for yourself I guess.
I'm sticking with my intuition that ANVH is not a scam.