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(ed)_What's the Big Deal?? Most all knew there was a Private Placement!! Better than toxic financing, shares are restricted, and the share structure is still extremely good!! These people took a projected risk, shares are locked for a period of time, so they get the bargain!! Just the way it is!!
Mean time - FLOAT REMAINS THE SAME !!
jmo
So , with all the brd marks, No comments on the news today? Anyone give any significance to this News today??
New here, so not as aware of the conditions!!
tia
Closing White Marubozu Candle___ Looks Good!! Nice turn North!!
http://ezinearticles.com/?Bullish-White-Long-Candlestick-Pattern---The-White-Marubozu&id=3867497
Surprised not higher volume today!!?! Holiday HangOver??!!
The drive to be in for the free BVIG shares, as HC is Looking good, may take it out?!!
Was thinking today too that KATG/BVIG may not even be ready to trade under KATG with the new share structure until the 6 month restricted is almost Up!!?
Wondering if it will ever see real volume??!! Like over a few million/Day? has been a low vol security so far!!
There was talk here about a cssp # change! Perhaps the CEO is holding that wild card??!!
I own quite a large % so far, and ready to get more! Then I will wait for the squeeze!!!
Wonder who BMAS is selling for??!! and How much they have??!!
http://www.bmasecurities.com/
http://www.thepennystockblog.com/mmb.html
All that is required is some Volume, and it Will eventually arrive!!
OMDA has been operating and growing on a total cash basis and has not issued any new shares of any kind in over 17 months,
nor does the company have any intentions of issuing shares of any kind in the near future.
All shareholders of record of OMDA Oil and Gas, Inc. can expect to receive a mailer shortly from the company Transfer Agent and Broadridge with all of the recent corporate governance changes that were announced and completed.
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Great News for KATG!! Can't wait for it to start trading under new symbol!!
Start here and read the discussion btwn the two individuals or just keep hitting the next tab from this link forward to get the view of what I was bringing Up
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to at least here
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Half the story!! Why does no one here let the newbs know that they probably have to hold the KATX shares until the BVIG shares are in ones account, which could be 45 to 50 days Post 16th!! Why is that important detail omitted, not elaborated upon, if one wishes to give a more complete picture!!??
Selling shares after the 16th, thinking one has locked in their free BVIG shares, could end Up to be a Big error!!
So if one buys to get the free BVIG shares, it is a commitment!! Not that there is anything wrong with that!!
fwiw
OOAG CHART__Turning North
OMDA has been operating and growing on a total cash basis and has not issued any new shares of any kind in over 17 months, nor does the company have any intentions of issuing shares of any kind in the near future. All shareholders of record of OMDA Oil and Gas, Inc. can expect to receive a mailer shortly from the company Transfer Agent and Broadridge with all of the recent corporate governance changes that were announced and completed.
OMDA Oil and Gas, Inc. (PINKSHEETS: OOAG) approves the retirement
of an additional 58,000,000 common shares
of its stock which will further reduce its outstanding share count by an additional 25%. Earlier this week OMDA announced a reduction of 12,000,000 common shares which is 5% of the outstanding share count. Upon the completion of all of the announced share retirements the new outstanding share count will stand at 172,610,100. In total OMDA will have reduced its outstanding share total nearly 30% from the original 242,610,100. Upon completion of all pending share cancellations OMDA's insiders will collectively hold less than 10% of the common vote. With 50.1% of the common vote required to approve all major corporate governance matters, OMDA would be required to secure consent from more than 40% of the its shareholders to reach a majority approval. Majority shareholder approval is necessary for such issues as share issuances, changing the authorized shares, and splits of any kind. OMDA has confirmed with its securities attorney that the cancellation of shares does not require a shareholder vote. The company is able to retire shares at its discretion without shareholder consent. As previously stated, neither OMDA, nor its officers and directors have any preferred shares since their recent cancellation.
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I still have useless/ worthless shares of I don't know what that I got from the parent Company, that was so long ago, and such a Nightmare,
Apparently the Divy did not include APRU??
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Stay Clear!!
You should read the DD First, ALL of it!! and read the last month of posting!! to Catch Up!! it is All there!! of late, there was a mix up, that has been resolved!! Do some Homework as it will pay off!!
Float Ultra low, and will not change if You read the last few Pr's
Looking for mentally strong hands here!
Buy and Hold, imo
Share structure here
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I agree that the original financing secured by KATX will form a Tent over the whole restructuring, developmental Process as the company progresses and will cover all the properties!!
On that point, yes, KATX which will RM into KATC, can become even more diluted, if the Copper properties are spun off , as done with HC to Form KATG/BVIG!! The one good thing about KATG/BVIG now , though, is that the other Gold properties, as they come in, will Not further dilute KATG/BVIG, as a divy will be paid based upon KATX holdings, like as is being done for HC!! But the Parent Company share structure will be set!!
Note: R/M of KATX into KATC could come with a retirement of shares of KATX in the Process, as KATC will fall under KATG
On the Other hand, KATX has more dilution of shares to come, If in that @ the present pps, all the Copper properties are under the same pps umbrella right Now, but that pps will eventually see some of the supporting properties possibly go into its own shell?? That would be more dilution for the present structure of KATX!!
IF KATX holds onto ALL the present Copper properties, with NO Spin Off, than that will bode well for KATX, in that the share structure would now be fixed!!
TFN has bee around for some time, and has seen many things come down, and knows his stuff well ( even though anyone can put on a slant one way of another ), and I have been following securities for nearly as long, even though I do not think I get the same grasp!!
So just saying, that Although, KATX is a Great security, the fractionation has caused some befuddlement, some Timing kinks, some Positioning thoughts, and has put up a yellow flag, imo, as all the restructuring is being done a little far in advance of known results, but I guess that is the part of the Risk/Reward!!
fwiw
One reason why I have been thinking of putting aside some of my KATX winnings for a KATG/BVIG entry when the time is right!!
Although I hold a significant amount of KATX , I see the Start of drilling on HC and a good strike there, more beneficial to KATG/BVIG , than to KATX!!
People may buy both, esp b4 the 16th, but after that!!, all the great findings there , HC,belongs to KATG/BVIG the PARENT COMPANY!!! Which also will take on the other gold Properties!!
There may be other Divy's to come off KATX, but I see those a little further Out, unless they bust Out RR soon, into a separate Co!? But even if they do, KATX is going to RM into KATC 1:1 , so I'll still have my Copper shares!!
Just my thoughts and no need for anyone else to follow! I just think the New Investors base will flock into KATG/BVIG with a good outcome on HC, and I believe that is why KEN and the Team, set Up HC that way!!
Too many avid pumpers of KATX misleading the newbs on where the Gold property value will be once HC gets rolling!! Best to own both, imo!!
fwiw
lol
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palacian _ that is a good point, if the avialbe float on KATG , once trading, was held to a limited amount, with just enough to keep the trading activity fluid enough, but not too much infusion to take the pps down over the 6 month wait period!! That would make one , I for one, more complacent with holding out for my divy shares to clear, Knowing the pps there was holding Up and I was not missing a buying op!!
Apparently you may need to re read my post a few times!!
I said Nothing there about buying BVIG now!!!
Again, even if one holds their shares past the point of the divy date, that is not good enough to Qualify for the shares!! One has to hold all the way through the clearing of shares in Ones account!! So if one were to consider shifting some KATX funds over to KATG, one would want to sell near a Peak!! Where might the peak be?! Well for one peak, it may be right around the 16th!! After that, for those that don't realize they need to continue holding their shares until the shares hit their account, they may sell post 16th!!??
Eventual , KATG being the Parent Company, all the others will fall under its umbrella!!
Point is, if one were to prune some KATX funds for a buy into KATG, one would put the funds/powder ASIDE & WAIT for the time to be right to move into KATG!!
It is all about making $$, Multiples of where one stands now, and the potential gain!!
It could turn Out that 100K of my KATX sold into a rush, would buy me 200 to 400K of KATG!! and if I got KATG that cheap, would it be more likely to do Multiples than KATX!??
If there is a good strike on HC and the Property has high value, where will the $$ flow??, into KATX or KATG??
RR is trailing HC on development right now, so I'm just batting around a game plan, and only put it out for logical constructive criticism, Not to have brd mania attack me!!
It is not like I'm bashing the company, just considering positioning options, that I am sure others are thinking about, and also offering one reason for the current sideways movement!!
But I'm done now as too many here feel threatened by such a discussion, which shows a total lack of faith in their holdings!!
Either way, holding here, or reserving powder for later, one still ends Up in both!!
I have Not lost my way! The question is how to position oneself btwn the two Securities!!
HC is the first of the parent , Not RR!! Why is That??
Why work Hc first??
Not saying the Copper properties are not Important, to the Contrary, I pointed it out that they may be the real deal here!
I'm just thinking that a portion of my KATX holdings would buy a Nice chunk of BVIG/KATG mb even 4x!! An opportunity that could be missed if I don't find an extra source of powder!! I'm riding high here now and could ride higher, but putting some of this into BVIG/KATG is being pondered!!
Too bad you can not make a statement without the derogatory content of saying I have lost my way!!
It could very well be you that is Not thinking clearly!!
fwiw
The Company did "Complicate" things, when they split Up the properties, but one has to give the benefit of the doubt and trust the Foresight!
It is in that foresight, that they made KATG the Parent Company and put Hc in there!!
So, being that we're all here to capitalize, trying to unscramble this and time things has become more complicated!!
There are those here creating fear selling, and just as many trying fear buying tactics!!
It is a lot more than that, and one reason the KATX may travel sideways a bit, as the thoughts are ruminated Upon!!
It was Not a "Suggestion"_!! It was a thought that is shared by others and just pointing it out as it is food for thought imo
No need to feel threatened or attack me!!
It is all the same Company!!
Why would management or the legal team be opposed to interest in KATG ( BVIG )??!! They actually have Put HC in there First for a Reason!! So I don't understand where you are coming from??
Hold the sub -company, and don't buy any of the Parent Company??!!
Being that KATG ( BVIG ) is going to be the Parent Company, some may be putting their eye there, and wondering , that if there is a good Strike on HC, which will appreciate more ?, KATX or KATG ( BVIG )!!
There is also the thought that one might do better to fore go the free shares in BVIG, and have funds readily available ( perhaps some from KATX ), to be positioned to buy KATG ( BVIG ) once it starts trading with the NEW share structure!
Now one can reply that one should Hold their KATX until after the divy on the 16th, but then again, the point has been brought Up, that being able to remain Qualified for those shares, may take up to an additional 45 days, for the shares to show in ones account and be cleared!
Now within that time frame, What if it is KATG ( BVIG ) that offers a good entry pps, and again KATG ( BVIG ) that sees more appreciation from Good HC results??!!
So , As I mentioned to Ken, in the more near term, with the present investor base, which is growing and will continue to grow , esp. with favorable finds, by forming separate securities, he has fractionated the Investor base!
Another way one can Look @ this , especially if one wants to be more "fluid", is to fore go the divy, sell into any rise in KATX approaching the Divy date, and Save the Powder for KATG ( BVIG )!! Not only would one be buying the Parent Company, but the switch over could be favorable if the pps of KATG ( BVIG ) goes below 0.10 or 0.05 as the new shares are distributed In!! That would allow the 6 months of possible rise in the pps, before the surge in selling, that could take place once the 6 month restriction is lifted!
So , anyone that is selling some here is Not completely Evil or dumb, or is going to "miss out", if they are thinking of switching Pony's, or just shifting the balance of their holdings to cover both bases!!
These are just some thoughts that are going through my mind right now and any "Constructive" feedback on the thought process would be welcomed!!
It is all in the Same family, it is just that with X amount of Investors present, just trying to figure the dynamics btwn KATX and KATG ( BVIG )
jmo, fwiw
How's the Water over here?! Good time to enter?!! tia
***AMSZ__DD***__
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Chart___headed North___Moves easy!! Looking for 0.05 Plus further out!! .015 Near term
I just want to know how the new shares of the new float will be Infused, and by whom, and where that will take the pps, as I am looking to buy free trading shares also, in addition to having the restricted!!
If AMSZ comes any where near its projected revenue stream for 2010, 1 st Q 2011 is going to be so Great!!
This level will be almost ground floor In!! _ __ Will be a very nice ROI !!
imo, fwiw
Ok, I should take this discussion Over there perhaps, but less bashing here, compared to there!!! lol
Guess it depends on what the Float there will start off as?! And does anyone know how they get these new shares distributed in, who sells them, etc?!
Will there be any results back on HC b4 the trading starts there??!
I'd imagine a few people may be thinking of moving some of their KATX position in that direction b4 or after the divy?!
From the looks of the trading, I think some would rather have their $$ readily available to buy into KATG/BVIG out of fear of a post divy dump?!
Then there is the gamble betwn the Gold vs the Copper properties!! Which will give the best return!!
I'd have to think the Copper, but who Knows!!
Have there been any guesstimations made on what the BVIG / KATG pps would go to once it starts trading!?
Might depend on if there are results on HC prior to or Not??!
Looks like a trip to 0.11 area??
Yep!! Can't complain about 18.87% Green!!_ Save some powder for the late Friday close!!
I have powder Now, but watching in Horror!! I don't get it!! But I'll wait now like the flippers, and swim with the tide!!
Chart__MACD failed, busting the wrong way!! Lower BB turning down, breaking southside!! Not sure how to read this!! I thought people would be all over the free shares, where now it seems, people want out b4 everyone else, bc they don't care about the free shares???, or they think it is going to tank after the 16th???, or they don't think there will be results for a while??? Just try to figure this move with all the good news put Up!!
If I had to just read the chart, it is now doing a good job of pointing South!! Mb the talking heads on CNBC??!!