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'delusions of grandeur'?
I guess since we're in Hollywood, they started after I lost my sight from being defrozen from a Carbonite coffin by Princess Leah and then almost fed to the Great Sarlacc who inhabits the Great Pit of Carkoon on the planet Tatooine.
Merry Christmas to all and to all a good night! I hope you all got a good laugh and chuckle.
"An oligarchy of private capital cannot be effectively checked even by a democratically organized political society because under existing conditions, private capitalists inevitably control, directly or indirectly, the main sources of information." -
-- Albert Einstein
This is my 15th post of the day and sums up what I am saying by someone who we all can agree is smarter than the rest of us. Bottom line is that when people can control what is deleted and what sticks to a board, they in fact control one the 'main sources of information'. Thus, my concern about Janice's BIHC, FFGO, and SAEI involvement is only in line with Dr. Einstein's statement.
I have nothing personal against you, in fact like I said, this is me getting my $60.00 worth of entertainment and making it through yet another coffee break and day in this grey cubical farm on the 13th floor of the Labor Building in Trenton, New Jersey three days before CHristmas 3000 miles away from a place I rather be...
It's the principle of the thing, at least at the Spearmint Rhino you get you're $60.00 worth. We've all spent $100.00 on a diner for a chick who wouldn't even hold our hand and say thank you. As far as I'm concerned the only stocks I would buy are the ones that give me my $60.00 worth of entertainment, just like the Spearmint Rhino. I would never invest in a stock, I only gamble in stocks. I invest in copper, silver & gold bullion, antique guns, swords, guitars, pianos, wine, violins, violas and my pension fund. Only a fool would "invest" in a stock.
Actually, no, you wouldn't have to have anything other than "good will" or the potential for some reward to come to you in some fashion. When the mob puts out a hit, they don't sign a contract with an actual person, they just put out the "bid". THen when the body washes up on the shores of the East River and the NYPD identifies the body, the bosses find out who did it and an envelope with cash and a call girl show up in a town car at the hitmans house and they enjoy a few weeks stay and an "emperor's package" at Ceasars Palace.
Imagine if next week I found information that got Tyco CEO Dennis Kozlowski out of jail and reinstated to his former place of power and money because I found proof he DID pay taxes on that Artwork and the the Board of Directors committed fraud and conspired with the SEC to have him be the fall guy for their own crime. That guy or any other falsely accused millionare rotting in jail like GOrdon Gekko, is going to be stuffing envelopes with cash and having BRenda and Carle from the SPearmint Rhino picking me up in a limo feeding me cherries and pot brownies on my private flight out to the "emporer's package" at Ceasars Palace.
Brad all it takes is a group of a dozen or so investors to work together with each other, like a group of guys at the basketball court pick up a game and play hoops on Friday afternoons here in Newark at the playground. Some of the best games I have ever seen are with 3 on 3 of the toughest strangers who never met each other. Likewise it is totally possible, in fact plausible, for a handful of indepedent traders with premium IHUB packages, unlimited messaging, in different parts of the world, moderating and controlling, deleting & censoring the board posts of free-posters like myslef with only 15 posts a day, to control and manipulate the PPS of the stock then fan the flames of discontent that the SEC comes in halts the stock like BICH or SAEI have gotten in and out quick, literally controlling where and when the "music ends" in their own game of "musical chairs" or "duck duck goose". I am just questioning the motive of what clearly is a group of people, maybe not working together in tandem, but surely working together for each other's benefit; if not in stock profit, but the good will you just exploited in "taking Janice out to diner".
I never "bet" more than what I would lose in a hand of poker or blackjack in AC or Vegas on a Tuesday night with my friends Brad. THis is the OTCBB and Pinks, it's betting or gambling, not investing. So don't worry, I nor my friends lost anything that we wouldn't have thrown at a Spearmint RHino or Peppermint Hippo for a 30 minute lap dance.
THe only thing I have to say is that Janice is either a hero that deserves a medal, or like "bobby the firefighter", pulling the alarms for fires she, or something or someone she is working with is setting.
I am just questioning Janice's motive for being a "viglante" and as "she" admits "enjoying" sniffing out the scams. Shouldn't she be working for the SEC? There is an old saying when someone farts, "who ever smelt it dealt it". All I am saying since you need it brought down to a 3rd grade level is that the way things appear, Janice is sure smelling a lot of farts. And if she enjoys smelling out all these farts so much, than shucks, what then is her motive for being farted on so much?
No Mr. Derf, what my analogy between "Bobby the firefighter" and "Janice the penny stock Sheriff" clearly is saying in plain literate Enlish is that throughout time; often the case when so many "fires" are put out by the same person; like BIHC, EIGH, and SAEI by a "vigilante", it is suspect to foul play.
THat's a fact.
When I was in highschool in Pennington, New Jersey during the 1990's there was a boy named Bobby who joined the fire department at the age of 16. Through the years Bobby was always the first to respond to the fires, saving people's lives and becomming a teenage legend amongst his adult peir firefighters. Well after a few years of Bobby's quick responce to all of these fires, some of them clearly arson, investigators began to piece together the string of events. It was in fact Bobby, starting most of the fires, then repeatadly being the first responder to the scnene, even saving a person's life one time. Dozens of fires had been started by Bobby, hundreds of people's lives were put in harms way. No one here is accusing Ms. Janice of anything, we are just concerned why "She" is always putting out so many fires, and so quick to know where and when to get out of the "burning buildings". Most suspect; BIHC and SAEI and possibly CMKX or any other board moderated by this person who is "endorcesd" by IHUB- Shelly And IHUB-Dan as a "Vigilante".
Are you really a woman working in England for a British hedge fund and independently working for IHUB at the same time? Why are you so involved in IHUB and these stocks as a moderator for so many boards? Does IHUB compensate you?
I'm trying to get some shares, but they're not filling the bids. Basically if I read this right. If I buy 2,000 shares of CBIS today for $0.055 at a cost of $110.00+ commission after December 31, I will keep my 2,000 CLass B shares, get 200 shares of Class A valued at a dollar, and a coupon redeemable to buy 200 more class A shares at $1.00 a share in 90 days.
Is the ex-date December 20th or December 31st?
If buy the stock today will we get the dividend?
Something is in the pipeline; it's too quiet.
There was a SEC filing on Decembe 10th on NMGL's board about FFGO's sale of the gold mines. I wonder how many months it will take for the bosses to mail each other stock certificates and mumbo jumbo big word stuff. It's been years they have claimed this was a "done deal", the price of gold is significantly higher than $1,050.00, and nearing $1,400.00. How hard can it be to pay your shareholders the dividend? This isn't a freaking space shuttle launch. We're not rescuing trapped submariners on the bottom of the ocean floor. What is taking so long? This is bull pucky of the smelliest odor!
Wow, this is great news.
How high end? Like $5,000.00 or $500,000.00 chairs? Do you make furniture that could be sold at a high-end place like this one in Laguna Beach, CA? http://www.witford.com/ I know the owners and they are always looking for new clients. Maybe you could re-tool and open a manufacturing plant in Paterson, New Jersey where all the factories and warehouses are vacant and leasing for pennies on the dollar. Combined with a grant to train a manufacturing workforce of 50 cabinet makers from the State of New Jersey, shipping & logistics to showrooms like Witford in Laguna Beach handled by a 3rd party vendor, you're back in business.
http://lwd.dol.state.nj.us/labor/employer/training/FY11_NGO_CT.html
Just an idea. Like my whole hybrid Solar-Hemi-Oil-Energy idea, it's a long shot, but shucks if an oil field couldn't also be used to put up solar panels and call it an "energy field" utilizing the existing infrastructure, roads, and electric lines. SOmetimes I think the wrong people are put into places of leadership.
It's so apparent that in this nation we need to promote more Corporals & Sergeants who have experience recovering from their leader's failure and fewer Lieutenants & Captains willing to sacrifice their troops to gain experience that was in their ranks all along.
Does anyone here think SAEI will rise from the ashes?
The list of names SAEI collected is worth the real gold here. That is valuable information that can be used to harvest the next crop of investors.
Agreed, I even bought into this once it rose over $0.50 cents last week. Read my chronology, I was a naysayer at first, I didn't believe it, but then when we doubled our money on Friday and over the weekend saw the bid rise to over $1.05 it was a too good to be true story. I bet management is taking down names and numbers to sell to the next scam artists that want to sucker hard working people out of their money with what appears to be a false report and fraudulent claims about billionares.
For a while I was giving management the benefit of the doubt, "Lisa", "Mike"; I hope you guys are proud of what you just did.
Right. and the hits just keep on rolling. Once again, this is penyn land and never invest more than you are willing to lose.
BINGO! Agreed, if management had come out and refuted the offer fine, but having a call center telling the public that the offer is real and taking our contact information along with the fact that this ISN'T A PINK SHEET stock, tells me to give SAEI's management an NCO's chance to come through with an explanation! In fact USAA is allowing this to trade like a real stock with free commission coupons when other penny stocks and stocks over a buck like $18.00 WAMPQ which really are on the pink sheets can't be traded. Why is USAA allowing me to buy and sell SAEI like a real listed stock using free commission coupons and people on this board claiming that it is a pink sheet scam?
http://www.ua-reporter.com/novosti/99432
THis article from the source region, not freggin CANADA!!, seems to shed some light on the blind trusts and layers of corprate offices between the billionare and where the pick ax meets the rock and the rubber meets the road.
The author of the article accuses the very agency that he is crediting for conducting the investigation of "wathcing porn" instead of conducting the investigation. If anything that article is as damning of the SEC as it is of SAEI. Really, read between the lines there.
ACCEPT, then why has the PPS remained above a dime? Why not straight shot to dot tripple-zero one? In my analysis I agree with the nay sayers, but I also agree with the longs. Granted this is like betting on the Saints in last years superbowl, but the odds are still giving management a dimes worth of a chance on 20,000,000 average shares a day. In my opinion the naysayers have a 65% chance of being right, but that 35% chance remaining I believe truely could be the deal of the year. Anyone who wouldn't put $100.00 down now to buy 1,000 shares that could be $2,500.00 wouldn't go to a casinon and play a hand or two of black jack? I ask another simple question; why would such a person have bought a penny stock, be on I-hub, or mingling in this casino at the penny table if they were not in it to play the game through till the clock rang the buzzer? Anyone who put more than a night's worth of poker money or bingo money into this is a fool. Anyone who didn't put $300.00 basis into this is missing out on a kick ass ride.
"THanks Houston, this is Enterprise with two to beam up. I got this hottie Russian girl I parked in LA for the summer we got a pick up first. Mr. Laforge, Mr. Scott. Energize!"
Name three stocks that have over $35,000,000.00 in action in the past four trading days that are promising a 25X reward on basis with #1 on discussoin board, coverage by Bloomberg, New York Post and even has a Russian Billioare making statements for himself, not some underling or like a school teacher ignoring the class clown, completely remaining silent.
NO THIS BILLIONARE RUSHED TO DISCREDIT THIS BID OFFER FASTER THAN HE COULD HAVE MADE IT. It's in his interest and every other bidder to be "blind" in the whole transaction.
Every Lawyer I know uses someone else to trade their stocks in a blind trust to avoid conflicts of interest. The billionare is no different than a US attorney using a blind trust to buy Hallibourton stock and remain on the Senate Arms COmmittee's payroll as in house council.
BIG BUYS COMMING ACROSS bid/ask is getting tight. What's going on, this is running up on the volume spike and transaction count.
Ironically that was about the risk/reward of betting on the Louisianna Saints football team last year when no one thought they would win. I was in Vegas when it happened and it was the easiest underdog pick to play in the world. Always look at the risk versus the reward.
"CRAZY IVAN" is what US Submarine Commanders call Russian Sub COmmanders juking left and right before a dive or rise to the surface would call it. It was even quoted in "Hunt for Red October"
A RUssian Billionare could just be doing the same thing through blind trusts stacked on top of each other so deep NO ONE HAS TO ANSWER JACK SQUAT TO THE MEDIA, PRESS, RADIO, INTERNET, OR ANYONE WHO ISN'T CARRYING A BADGE UNDER A COURT ORDER TO CONDUCT AN INVESTIGATION or AN OFFICIAL FILING BY THE COMPANY WITH THE SEC.
No I stressing the fact that in an "offer" or a "bid", historically; as with BSC, we can see that the initial bids are "low balls" that usually translate to something much more substantial within days.
Have you ever been to a flea market? THat's where you are now if you are in pennyland; this is a flea market, everybody is lowballing and suckering everyone into buying junk that at one time was new, like our Ukranian gold mines originally owned by the Romans.
PLEASE STOP REPOSTING THAT POST! It's not factual, based on heresay and speculation; like the Bloomberg article, the New York Post Article, and everything else, they are not official statements made under oath or a filing from the company.
Seriously, when we here something from the company or from a government agency, then we can say we have people's testimony. However, NONE OF THESE BIDDERS are obligated to tell Bloomberg or the New York Post anything. Bloomberg and the New York Post are not law enforcement agencies carrying out an investigation, that billionare can tell them anything he wants within the realm of the truth; which in a blind trust, he would be telling the truth; in that he has no knowledge of a bid, offer, and acceptance until after it has closed.
Remember Bear Stearn's original bid was for $2.00 a sharea and five days later it sold for $10.00. The same could happen here. A collapsing giant and a rising gold mine.
Exactly, no way that we can disregard the fact that $35,000,000.00 worth of action has been played here. That is a lot of money even in the real world outside pennyland.
Agreed, there is a buzz in the air. I spoke to them also, and I agree. They know something, and it's about to be released. Remember last Friday when this thing shot up and Monday morning it up-gapped? There is still the fact that $2,000,000.00 worth of action has been played on this stock on average for the past four days. That's not a normal penny stock. Also, today's low volume of sells and higher ratio of buys is an indicator that the "betting market" is placing bets on this, at no time would I ever consider a stock under $5.00 a share an investment; they are bets. So with that said, watch this rise to a buck.
Another fact. My broker USAA only allows commission free trades with NASDAQ and NYSE listed stocks over $1.00 a share, however for the first time in 36 years they have allowed the six trades I have executed on SAEI in the past week go free and trade like a real stock. If USAA is doing that, something is up. USAA doesn't screw around.
IF it does what it's done every day, we're gonna drop to half the open then pump to twice that very price, then close out with half the stash in cash. Watch this go to $0.20 today.
One question; if "doesn't merit writing an article", why does he write a long article? If the Billionaire didn't have anything to do with SAEI, then why did he even respond and NOW make himself involved. Any other Billionare, a CEO, or PResident of a country would have had an underling hottie spokeswoman like Popppie Harlow, or Dana Bash or Norah O'Donnell from CNN make an announcment, shucks a homeroom teacher with a class clown, would have just ignored the class clown and kept writing on the chalk board like SAEI's managment is doing, and leaving an open line of communicaiton with real people speaking English answering the phone. Thats more than MICROSOFT CAN BOAST!! Try calling them for tech support and you have to speak fourteen other languages other than English. At least this company is keeping their cool, for now.
I agree, we better get a press release today like SAEI's IR firm said they would, or this cookie may crumble. Still in my opinion, SAEI may be baked by little Keebler Elves hidden in a Ukranian tree somewhere and is worrth a buck for leaving under the tree for Santa Clause to eat. Still though, every cookie can crumble.
Old News, and there is nothing addressing the real facts, that at no time does the Millionare, the New York Post's Canadian office, nor the Bloomberg Canadian office have any obligation to present anything other than the facts they select to present in the order they present them. Likewise; as it is obviously a fantastic story, with a great reward, this risk lies in the trust between high powered media outlets, and the new advent of technology we have in smart phones and email that can keep a group of international investors in sync or dissonence. Still, we have an IR firm with people named Lisa, Mike and others claiming the bid was authentic, while the truth still remains that niether Bloomberg or NYPost has the authority to ask questions under oath or investigative judicial order that the MIllionare, the "private bidders" or the company are under any obligation to publically discuss or acknowledge or confirm and have every right to deny knowledge of.
If we made a bid on a house for $175,000.00 and someone came along and tried to upbid the offer for $250,000.00 it would be in the first bidder's benefit to let his dog poop on the front lawn without picking it up five minutes before the realator shows up to showcase the house to the pair of upbidding East-Side newly weds.
Right here Chief, listening to the facts, not the propaganda or one word comming from Bloomberg, or billionares with nothing to lose. At no time is anyone obligated to tell Bloomberg the whole truth, nothing but the truth, so help them GOd. They are not under oath.
I've been listening to the people with everything to lose, espcially their lives on the line because the Russian mob will do a hit for the fun of it, let alone protecting the 5th wealthiest man in the country. If SAEI had made up a person's name fine, then I would agree with you, but no one in their right mind would implicate such a powerful person without A) a death wish or B) knoweldge of a blind trust.
"Lisa" just said that she got the information within the past hour, so no yesterday she wasn't sounded elated, but five minutes ago she was.
I think Bloomberg is taking a big risk defaming "Lisa" in their article. I will always look out for the little guy, or girl in this case. I think it's terrible what Bloomberg published, it was without class, and it's a white collar crock of crap that took advantage of blue collar worker who I and a lot of other people care more about than the $300.00 I may or may not lose on SAEI.
I just got off the phone with "Lisa" at IR and she sounds very happy and excited. She took my contact information and said the company would be contacting shareholders directly and issuing a press release soon concerning the $2.50 bid. Why is the IR firm telling me the bid is real? I trust an hourly worker like "Lisa" more than I will ever trust that Canadian Beaureu Chief at Bloomberg or the Billionares who can pay people to take blame for their lies.
The only thing we can do is wait. Anyone who bought this and sold, is a fool, why did you place a bet in the first place if you didn't want to see the game played out?
Only fear has driven this down. NOthing Bloomberg says is 100% credible. Bloomberg and the big dog media outlets were the same asses pumping Lehman Brothers and Washington Mutual with AAA ratings days before they dropped to the Pink Sheets and BK.
Seriously, last year when everyone said the Saints were going to lose, only one man, the Coach of the PIttsburg Steelers stood by the underdogs, and what happened? The Saints WON!
This is going to be like the superbowl folks....
There is even more ILLOGIC in a publically traded company releasing false information and pissing off a Russian Billionaire with enough money to have the culprits kidnapped, tortured, and killed without any trace, let alone legally prosecuted or handeled in civil court taking everything they own.