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I appreciate the effort that you've invested here. I'm a bit surprised that you have decided to be an asset to strangers. But I'm certainly willing to be wrong when the results are good.
Please be careful about teaching a crowd how to play the roll of spoiler toward a stock. Taking advantage of a pps that's falling is different than helping to cause its demise.
Thanks, Lisa.
Steven
It was reported that Michael's software guys are working on a FaceBook interface.
The interface to MySpace simply allows users to pop the Hypster mini controls into their existing MySpace page. No license or agreement is necessary with MySpace, since the user is already allowed by MySpace to put whatever he or she chooses into his or her "Space." Hypster makes it available to the user and they then put it into MySpace themselves with a few simple steps rather than Hypster installing anything into MySpace.
The interface to FaceBook will operate the same, but it needs to be configured by Burned Media to operate properly (seamless integration) in the FaceBook environment. The FaceBook option will open the door to many more users, and is generally a somewhat different crowd.
All of this is what makes BUNM a good bet for substantial increase in corporate value over the next year or so. That is, if Michael will not tap into the increase as soon as it occurs.
I am curious. And I'll watch with great expectation.
Thanks for that quick little kiss at the end. I don't quite know why it was there but at my age I almost never question the kiss of a young woman.
(especially a belly-dancing young woman)
So you're saying that I could use the W pattern thing to get a good price on a cow? Dang, I'd like to get a good cow. I'll check back with ya for some technical advice when it's time to buy.
:O)
The last good cow I had was a Jersey with such a sweet face. That was decades ago on my ranch in Oregon, but when we get the place finished in Southern Belize, I want fresh milk and it's not convenient to buy it in the marketplace there. I'm glad to know that this Double Bottom, "W" thing that you're always talking about will turn out to be useful to me after all !!
Are you trying to become an asset here??
That would be a welcome change.
Pay attention to the facts. Facts are important.
He said that our "New Mexico friend" says these stocks go up when they are bought (ie buying pressure). He didn't sugggest that you buy anything.
There is a truce in effect. Read carefully and reply carefully, or just read. That would be Ok too.
Not true. I said the 20th. And that was simply the date that required information to be published to the Pink Sheets. New information suggests that we will probably have a PR this week or Monday.
This pps will be higher after that PR and will increase as the company fulfills any prospective acquisitions and increase.
If you want to buy at this level, you'd better get in at this level.
Good !! That's good news for investors here.
I'm living the dream too, except the dream keeps changing on me and I need to adapt from time to time.
:O)
I told my wife yesterday that a certain amount of money seemed like a lot until we had more than that. Then it required more to meet the demands of our dream material.
Uhh ohh. Trying to engage the minds of investors toward the good of the whole community. Hmmm, what a concept.
One consideration of "getting in" is the fact that this is not a stock that allows you to step in whenever you choose with a big order. The volume just isn't there most of the time lately. Since the longs are not willing to sell at this pps, you may have to leave your bid in for quite a while to get it filled unless it's for 10mm shares or less. And when it begins to take off in one of it's short "practice runs," there are a lot of bids ahead of yours.
Just something for your friends to consider.
One of these days it's going to rise to .0005 and stay there. Then it'll cost more to have that same starting position.
Yes, your love of money is apparent. All seems fair to one who loves money.
You simply cannot trust the chart "pictures" like a Double Bottom movement, when the MMs are able to manipulate the pps at will.
There was a huge impression made upon the chart today with a $4 trade. How much influence do you suppose $4 should have upon the value of this corporation??
Taking the pps from $.07 to $.04 drops the market cap value by 43% and when the value of a corporation can be reduced by 43% with a $4 investment, ...something is very wrong and you'd best not believe much of what you see related to the indexes and influences involved like that. At least you can be sure that they don’t really reflect the value of the corporation (in a situation like this one).
This is manipulation motivated by greed alone and not by investor sentiment or financial facts. It would be like asking a select group of 12 people to elect the next president of the USA and those 12 all have a pre-arranged agenda. If the rest of the country doesn’t vote, that’s hardly an accurate representation of the voter sentiment. Same thing applies here. The symbolic 12 are able to manipulate this pps because not enough outside momentum is involved.
DVFA will have its day.
This is interesting. You're certainly right that errors are made when search routines gather information, ...but sorting out the facts from the mistakes ... well, it takes time.
It’s a research project for the people among us who love mystery and intrigue.
It's my guess that there's money to be made here at this price. But I don't intend to persuade anyone to buy anything, ...I will however argue against emotional nonsense, which is often fueled by increasingly lower account values when a stock price is in decline.
There are those who prey upon weak conditions of particular corporate circumstances. Under certain conditions, when a corporation needs a little time for their incurred situations to mature (especially delayed mergers and the like), these predators recognize an opportunity to begin their work of eating away at investor confidence. Much like a termite works on the foundation of a house. The termite is getting fat while the foundation of the corporation is growing weaker. If left alone to incubate, many good companies would have succeeded and the investors would have prospered, but instead the pps was driven into the ground by relentless weakening of investor confidence by the termites.
I think the transition from TQWI to DVFA has been a tragedy in mismanagement. But apparently the moneyman (whoever that is) felt exactly the same. Jim Daniels was fired. It may take a few days to find a suitable replacement and a few more days to formulate a PR. The company has until the 20th to post the corporate details with the Pink Sheets. I hope they plan to tell us before that time, but it's only nine more business days and those nine days will pass pretty quickly to the people on the inside of this corporation.
Pink Sheet investors live by the tick of the clock between 9:30am and 4:00pm. Every minute is significant and the only thing they're watching is the pps. On the other end of that corporate telephone number there is a lot more going on. One day soon, I hope they let us in on what the activity is all about. But for now, I've decided to buy some more of this one. It's a pretty good bet.
The publicity would be great if a few school districts accepted a proposal to provide drinks to students. Just their approval would be worth having, in advance of any actual sales.
The actual providing of products would however be (as you know) a long way down that road, even if the contract were signed next week. The schools operate in slow motion unless there is a perceived emergency. In my opinion, feeding all those kids Coke, Pepsi and similar products does constitute an emergency, ...but most people don’t care and wouldn’t agree.
Perhaps RushNet could persuade Arnold !! Send him some of this product and tell him that California students need these healthy drinks. He has created a lot of latitude for himself in his influence over California. And he likes to TALK about what he belives is good for the people of California.
Anything you can do to promote rational thought as opposed to emotional shouting will be appreciated.
We don't know what's going to happen and with all of the financial pressures on corporations today, ...DVFA is not expected to be as perfectly smooth a launch as the Space Shuttle. We can expect the company to trade shares for needed services and for incentives. We can expect that they "may" need to sell shares for expenses at startup. We don't know. But none of these things are unusual to normal-business-operation in corporate America.
Perception is pretty important today in this situation we're in. If we anticipate some of these things, which some will be calling "DILUTION!!!" ...and expect them to be present, as you suggest, it might help in overall perception, if (if) people read the iBox. New people to the board do read it to discover the basic facts but I think that most folks turn the box off after reading it the first time.
:O/
I think it's a good idea but may have little effect, if it's not widely read. Of course if it's there, it's easier to point to the information in the iBox rather than explaining all those facts over and over to new voices that are shouting the same thing.
Agreed. Selling to Wal-Mart can be death to a company.
The Wal-Mart management begin buying your product in large volume and after the vendor is hooked, they start offering (paying) less and less until the vendor (RushNet or whomever) becomes a slave to the Wal-Mart corporation. A friend of mine shared the gruesome details of his adventure with Wal-Mart ...the one that caused his corporation and a hundred employees to become an empty set of buildings with "FOR LEASE" on the buildings.
Wal-Mart is on my black list. They're NOT good for America and they're not good for RushNet.
All the right indicators suggest that this will be a winner and probably make it to the big-time, if nothing unforeseen occurs like, terrorist attack, California falls into the Pacific Ocean, Paris Hilton decides to run for President, ...Otherwise, this is a good bet for quite favorable gains in the next 4 to 12 months.
Jimmenknee and UpTick88 are among the best.
Now we wait.
I really am looking forward to discovering all that this thing is planned to be. Both Jim Daniels and the new PR guy have said that they intend to upgrade to a better venue for what they intend to do. That requires accountability and corporate value. Things we love to see.
NMState94, you’ve now told us why you always pitch fear and "the sky is falling," day after day. Thank you for such a clear explanation of how you make your dollars in the pinks off of repeated decline and rebound.
According to your testimony today (post #10532) you make money when people are scared into selling in a panic. Your posts indicate over and over that you love to promote panic. I hate to see that behavior but I appreciate your honesty in declaring why you do it.
You said that as the pps falls from panic sellers, you take the aggregate from the rebound. It's done all in the same day (no holding over night). Most major dumps in a day will rebound +50% (this is what you are taking advantage of).
So when you post anything, we now have NO DOUBT what your motive is. You’ve told us today. Panic selling puts money into your account. I appreciate your honesty.
We determined that Tom Krucker may be (probably is) the guy putting this deal together. That assumption was posted on August 30th or so. And we agreed that Tom is a very savvy guy in business with lots of experience. Having him as the captain of the ship (either in the forefront or in the background) would be desirable. Whether it is Tom or not, we now know that it’s someone other than Jim Daniels who pulls the strings. Jim was an employee.
The moneyman (whomever that is) didn't approve of the way that Jim Daniels managed the first weeks of this operation and Jim’s out. It was a questionable performance.
My guess is that the guy who is really in charge, finally realized or was told what’s been happening to the pps of this company while NOTHING has been posted in a PR. Whoever he is, he was NOT pleased. We weren’t pleased either. The pps is as important to them as it is to us! The evidence is in the message given to UpTick88 that in conjunction with a new CEO, we also now have a PR firm. Information flowing to the investors will be the key to success in the short term now!!
So, if all of this is true and correct, we will soon begin to see damage control. The suggestion that a competent PR firm will be employed is evidence of this.
There is NO REASON for us to believe that they have Pump & Dump as a goal because if that were the plan, they would have set up the pumping machine right away and begun from day one when the iron was hot. The business plan was obviously specific but the execution was not handled well. The small glimpses that we received indicate that this corporation is going to acquire and spawn companies. The hints that we have had indicate that there were deals in the works from day one and apparently there are deals pending at this time, according to what we learned today.
I think we’re going to see some genuine fireworks. A new policy designed to counteract the silence that has caused us serious grief thus far. It all sounds good. A decisive move today by the company and done at the most appropriate time so that panic does not surge through the investment community, ...as there is a weekend to digest the change.
I hope the effect of these changes become apparent soon.
Good point. When you are issued the Certificate, you have it sent to you, FedEx (included in the cost). You sign the back (endorse it, also authorizing them as your agent) and send it back to your broker and they deposit the shares back into your account, with the certificate in their vault. Trading is unaffected except for the time of transit when you are required to sign the cert. (a few days)
Standard procedure.
People, this is just good business practice and in this case it could also trigger an upward thrust in the pps if everyone did actually do it, …BECAUSE not all of the shares in our accounts are REAL and the Brokers have to provide authorized shares to be able to buy the certificate for you.
When you see the shares in your account, you assume the they're there and they are, ...but ask the people who still don't have their shares MONTHS after a R/S or Name Change ...they'll tell you how it works when the broker is SHORT and it just isn't important to them to cover you "within 60 days."
There are gazzillions of Naked Shorts here with BUNM and some of them are in YOUR account. NONE of them are in mine. Sorry but that's how it is.
Manipulation of the market is "what gives."
You don't get it, ...and I don't care anymore whether you do or you don't.
Exactly !! And if the shares in your account don't really exist, you won't know that until there is a crunch of some kind. Like I said before, some people here will be left holding the bag when the numbers are reconciled one day. If you have counterfeit money at the check stand of the grocery store, you don't get your groceries and you don't get your counterfeit bill back. You have nothing. That's what will happen to some here. Don't be the one holding the bag. Get your certificate. If everybody did that today it would cause buying chaos in the BUNM stock (by brokers covering these certificates with REAL shares).
A certificate is your pass to safe sailing through any kind of crunch. Cheap insurance when we know this thing is shorted beyond reason.
The certificate guarantees your shares are real authorized shares.
That's all, ...it has nothing do with your buying in the short mode. It's about the shares that are already existing in your account.
YES, call your broker and say, "I want to order a stock Certificate for my shares of BUNM."
It will take a couple of weeks for them to get it done. Longer if they are so shorted that they have to go out and buy some authorized shares to cover you.
WHICH BRINGS UP ANOTHER POINT: If everyone on this board called today to order certificates, the buying to "cover" would be significant!!
I ordered a stock "certificate" not too long ago for the BUNM shares that I own. I did it so that whenever there is a R/S or any other upset in this security, I KNOW that I can prove that what I own is actually there. In the recent R/M - R/S of TQWI into DVFA, there are many people who did not get their shares converted in two to three days like everyone else did because the brokers that they trade with were Short on TQWI and didn't have enough valid shares to exchange for the authorized newly-formed DVFA. They may never get them (??).
There is probably an enormous Naked Short inventory in this float pool, well beyond the documented list. The question is whether those who have already profited by selling these Naked Shorts will (through genuine fear of punishment) be forced to cover their shorts.
The point that I want to make is that if for any reason, you try to sell and your broker says, "I'm sorry but your inventory of BUNM is not covered by certified shares." What can you do?? Do you have real or counterfeit shares in your account today??
I KNOW what I own. It cost me $50 to have that insurance. It's a deductible expense at tax time and it's great insurance.
BUT, ...Listen up (!!) The certificate that I ordered was stamped with serial number 000034
That means that I am apparently only the 34th person to ever order the authorized version of this stock. That to me was amazing. As volatile as this stock is, and as heavily shorted as it is, ...that's crazy. My other certificates are numbered in the thousands or tens of thousands, ...and this one (BUNM) is number 34.
A word to the wise: Order the certificate today if you care about your investment.
Thank you. A thoughtful person will always have a sound effect upon their surroundings.
It is a pleasure to have you "moderating" this board because you are so very firmly balanced in reason.
The fact that the CEO didn't answer the office phone yesterday afternoon will cause many to read all kinds of things into that, when Jim might have been at the dentist or had gone out of town on business. At this time his priorities are nothing that we can see or understand and that phone number may be only for those (like us) who don't know the "real" phone number that he uses for business. We can't know. But when the imagined stories begin to circulate and grow, they can take on a life of their own, ...like the rush on the bank in your example.
We should wait for facts to emerge. Every time that real information does emerge from behind the curtain, the story feels more like this will have a good ending.
It's an honor to be aboard the same cruise with you, MaryKate.
MMs inventory? The ink is still wet on some of that inventory.
That is a very honest question and when you say it like that it deserves a reasonable, thoughtful answer.
Old-n-Senile ??
:O) ...I hope not anytime soon.
Your points are completely valid and I agree with you on everything that you said related to presenting the facts on the posting board. I would NEVER choose to persuade others to buy into something that I was not fully persuaded about myself. And even then I don't intend to persuade others, only present what I see as the facts or my opinions. I'm probably more concerned over the lives of others than (I believe) most people are. I would HATE to think that I caused others to lose money. I use money but I don't love money.
I know some things about business. Bill Gates was my client when he had 39 employees. I sold the first CAD machine to a bunch of kids in a warehouse on Lake Union as they were beginning this little company they called Union Bay clothing. I configured the first computers for Joe Gibbs Racing when Joe got into NASCAR. Etc..
Business success happens to those who have a good product and are diligent in their daily effort. I think I see in RushNet those qualities that make a company go to the top. It might not happen because of a host of adverse factors, but it just might happen. And the reason that I believe that, has nothing to do with foolish pumping jargon or an over-enthusiastic adrenaline gland.
So give it a rest. This company might overcome the obstacles and just like a river flows past every obstacle, the product and some basic charisma might take them beyond what you feel is reasonable and logical. Maybe not, ...but I'll put some down on this table and see what cards come up next.
It's that simple for me.
Good work, Jimmenknee. Appreciate your effort in all things related to this board.
I apologize for my attitude concerning that New Mexico character. To me, that young woman's arrogance is obnoxious and dangerous.
Can't light a dead bulb. Perhaps that's too harsh. It seems that you're completely negative and probably would not respond to electric shock therapy in the upswing mode.
Forgive me if I'm wrong. I no fortune teller, just an old guy who's been there in the corporate world.
:O)
You said recently that you NEVER keep a stock over night. Does "Long" to you mean after lunch?
It's tempting to want to "flip" this but I KNOW that it will be tough to buy back in after the present flurry subsides. And it will be almost impossible to get back in after the PR arrives.
It might be easy for a loudmouth who's flipping and bragging over a couple of hundred shares but turning over tens of thousands of shares is a different matter. I'll wait for Jim to speak. Hopefully soon.
Speculation is favored toward SHORTING rather than Dilution.
This is exactly the scenario that MMs short.
It's NOT the scenario that CEOs use to Dilute.
What CEO would sell shares into this market without any attempt to increase the value first (when it would be so easy for him to do)??
Bashing is when loud reference is made to potential problems as though successful companies don't have issues like that.
Companies that refuse to give up and die overcome serious problems every business day.
Bashers point to problems and cry that the sky is falling while management minds point to the problems and work toward a solution or resolution.
If he wanted to dilute this stock he would have already done so. He wouldn't wait for it to go down, down, down and then begin selling his shares. That's apparently not the plan.
He said that he hoped to be able to get a PR out on that Wednesday but added that he had some lose ends to tie up first. So he has not really broken his word as yet.
I would certainly question the value of saying absolutely nothing thus far. That seems ridiculous to me. I am sympathetic toward those who do not have shares settled as yet but those who do not have their shares would (I’m sure) prefer to see the stock begin to trade according to the business model and not according to a dark empty vacuum. When their shares are finally settled it would be nice if they had realized a handsome gain rather than a serious loss.
If too many call Jim Daniels we may not get a thoughtful moment of his time.
Please people, only call if you are a well-informed investor and have your emotions under control. This is a serious matter and deserves serious consideration. We should be willing to respect the plan of the CEO, who "should" be holding the financial success of DVFA in higher regard than we do, …while it is also completely reasonable for us to question the reason for, and the value of utter silence at this time.