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Well, how much money will ppl have to lose before than can agree with me? I have been posting, warning, calling this since teens? And repeat many times at every lvl that is a ????.
Wow still hyping with those fluffed numbers, if anyone listened to you even from last week and bought at .060s? Now at .047, how much lost is that already? LOL. STOP HYPING.
I don't see why anyone still believe in Belinda's HYPE. Clearly, his agenda here is to take advantage of new ppl and take their money. Track his record on CBAY lol.
I wonder how many shares a1stocks held. He have been buying at all levels and never sold? Or did he sold while hyping and buying back or is it all averaging down? What is your average price and amount of shares held lol? Mind telling everyone?
Did you not confirmed yourself that even the IR guy lied? NOT LET CBAYE happen again, and it did. Pawson said 2 weeks ago it will be "published next week" and did not.
Management that constantly lies and make excuses for their neglects simply cannot be trusted again.
I don't think you would like to see the results of those restated values for assets. :) Good development and yet the market is starting to react negatively to it again? Blame the shorts again?
Pawson failed to deliver his promises for too many times. Pawson is pulling off something fishy again.
I have posted and warned many times to everyone questioning the inflating assets and values many times. Legit or not? Now even the SEC is after them for it and some hypers still find this positive. Guess what happen to pps of companies when SEC is questioning? Remember CSHD and how ppl said the suspension and investigation would be better for the company to clear things up and they will skyrocket once it is cleared? And look what happened afterward.
In terms of CBAY, they will have to admit to the inflated values and acquisitions from the previous filings. Correction would be made, lol, everyone that think they had strong fundamentals based on their previous financials; did I not said those #s were made up?
And remember I also posted how desperate the latest PR regarding outstanding shares was just right before their deadline for filing? Pawson knew this shit, and pulled it off purposely. Like I said before, the last p&d was the exit for the smart ones, those hypers were getting you guys there. A smart hyper sold already at .067 the last p&d.
Generating revenues or fluffed projections will be known once filing is in but so far what Pawson is doing is unethical, lies and failing to deliver. And don't say management is not responsible when a stock fell from a dollar to a nickel. Something is definitely wrong, that why the market is not willing to pay a higher price.
That is how you make money? lol
You admit it and also eat crow, let's make it this range, even if the company report even on net income, I will consider that as positive and you win. Good enough conditions for you?
Yea, and CEO also said what he said last week will be published this week and look what happened? LIED. How can you trust someone that keep failing to deliver. lol
Your pleas are like general behavior of novices. Reminded me of Pablo. Anyone remember?
Maybe I don't but history show that you hypers lost heavily but probably not you guys. You ppl were probably selling heavily when you bailing nubs like kordell in at .19 to take your shares. Now he is here and mad because he lost most of his investment.
p.: but according to you pumpers that said you all believe it will be $3, i don't get any reason you guys would sell at the teens lol unless you guys are.....
Nobody is perfect but things add up, check message #2782. There is the whole list of CBAY negatives with all facts that happened already.
And do you think the company care about shareholders? They didn't even release a simple PR to update on the reason why they are late after the extension if they do have a good reason.
My idea is the same, ppl that listened to hypers and bought at the .060s lost 10% already. If they listened to me and not buy when ppl like belinda are pumping, they would be better off even if they choose to buy now.
You speak like a real n00b. At least do some research before you open your mouth.
Secretary answered for past 2 days and said Garlin is not in. Like I said earlier, vanished after the hype phrase.
If the management even care a tiny bit for you bagholders. They would at least release a PR stating reason why they can't meet the extension deadline but they did not.
Don't need a genius to figure out this situation.
Well, it is now proven that management lies, not me.
But I can't believe ppl still coming up with excuses for them, but i can understand. Nobody wants to lose money.
Oh, and management is probably giggling in their victory dinner now at the bagholders.
I dont laugh at you guys, i just feel sorry for all that didn't listen.
My last post didn't even say CBAY = scam artists, i refer to scam artists in general. Hey but they lied to you, management that lies and can't keep their promises and deadlines. hmmm.
Well, scam artists never tell you they will scam you.
Like I stated earlier, don't you see Garlin vanished for the past couple days? lol
CBAYE? Like I said before, they love delaying everything because they want to support prices as long as possible before the pandora is release.
Exactly what i want to say when you see such pumper on a stock, big sign for stay away especially after the run already (.073-.195). Same as when you see Lebed still pumping the stock to support the price while he selling his shares and PPS sinking.
Oil, they treat everyone that uncovers any negative aspect of the stock a basher. They only like those ppl that blindly fluffs those "to da moon" $1 by year end, $3 by end of 07.
While a good investor would listen to both side of the story and respond according but not with offenses and insults. Like I never name calling and insult anyone with their DD. I might not agree and find proofs to show that their wrong. But i never result to childish bickerings.
It is tough to trade when you cannot even control your temper at a message board over the net.
Misinforming, who misled ppl into buying at the high teens? Who keep telling ppl not to buy at those high prices? Who is right so far?
So saying this now because you are losing on this trade. Shareholder bias. Just like many ppl from CSHD and SLJB were optimistic even with the apparent fall.
Kornell, if you think because i am here and the stock went down from .90-.05, then you are wrong. Anyway, I am only here since .19-.05. Look, if one person can affect the direction, then many of these hypers cannot?
Of course I don't, I do my own research, bits do add up to a whole. I can bash one thing and keep repeating it but the problem is there is not only one negative piece here. There are many and many, if you read posts and add them together.
Hey kornell, those little firms were hyping to sell apparently. Go research on some p&d strategies used by firms, when they post upgrades and target prices, they are selling. And regarding fundamentals the problem is they inflated assets, everytime they acquired anything, value go up, then asset value added to the books yet they only had paid a little portion of it, the rest to be pay by selling more shares in the future.
The problem is do you think you are really so smart, uncovered a gem that the rest of the market despised. The market anticipates good news and move up according. The big saying buy on rumor, sell on news.
And did I not been saying that it will go back down since then even the .06s last week? It wasn't tough to predict that.
And also, remember how many ppl were saying how undervalued SLJB and CSHD was before? All those optimism when there is something to pump. Everything looked golden, then when the smokes cleared. lol
I am sure you guys have been trying to get in contact with Garlin lately also and find it tougher to find him and he is less reluctant to talk. Remember during the pump phrase, he was very active in providing investors with optimistic hopes, remember?
This is a classic one. Good example to add to the books.
You guys have been saying you want more shares cheap everytime it drops lower. Don't think that is the way to invest by hoping it goes lower so you can buy more while it just keep dropping lower. And meanwhile dreaming of unreasonable target prices which you hope will happen. Hallucination. But if that is your philosphy, nothing but a "lol".
Keynesian, notice the high target prices "fly to da moon", that is what these ppl been saying since the teens, and wonder what happened? $3, lol. Those wannabe dreams to get rich. They obviously trying to hype with unreasonable target prices to bail new ppl.
Kenesian, checkout their last filing. Notice from the revenues they only generated $308,489 from their $30m assets? INCREDIBLE, they would make more than that if they sell any of their claimed assets. But since their cost of sales for those were only $363,467 so only around $50,000 loss. But if you check their operating expenses of $1,788,558. How you do think the company can afford those expenses without mass share selling? Notice the net income from last filing is not from REVENUES off their business but from NOTES?
Revenues
Sales (COBS) . . . . . . 308,489
Rental Income (Note 3). . $ 5,051
Total Revenues . . . . . . 313,540
Cost of Sales (Real Estate Acquisitions)
Cost of Goods Sold (COBS) 218,181
Cost of Services (COBS) . 52,689
Commission . . . . . . . 92,608
Total Cost of Sales . . . . 363,478
OTHER COSTS AND EXPENSES:
General and Administrative 1,408,281
Consulting Fees . . . . 82,371
Professional Fees . . . . 137,319
Public Relations . . . . 142,429
Payroll . . . . . . . . . 18,158
Total expenses . . . . (1,788,558)
OTHER INCOME (EXPENSE):
Note (and Interest) 7,197,390
Interest Expense . . . (2,500)
Insurance claim Proceeds 44,865
Lease Refund . . . . . 2,500
Escrow Refund . . . . . (1,665)
Interest and other expense -0-
Repayment of Loan . . . -0-
Interest and other income -0-
Total other income 43,200
OPERATING INCOME:
Net (loss) . . . . . . . . $ 5,402,094
Net (loss) Per share:
Basic & Diluted. . . . $ .24
Weighted average Shares outstanding:
Basic & Diluted. . . . 22,797,501
When the filings out, it will all be cleared. I have no doubts in a net-loss. I just want to know how Belinda and his fellow pumpers will react to it. What is going to be the new excuse? And what is the next excuse for the next pps sink due to bad earnings? Another LOAD THE BOATS? No wonder someone is pumping SLJB and LOADING ITS BOAT. PUMPING THE LAST BREATH.
**** MAYBE BELINDA IS ACTUALLY TIM GARLIN FROM CBAY IR. ****
**** REMEMBER, THEY DO READ THESE BOARDS. THAT IS WHY THEY RESPONDED TO OS COUNT. ****
Good post from "iamtoocute" of HSM:
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Thanks fireopal, re-edited my evaluation with Guapo's post. CBAY meets almost all the points.
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Great post by Spectre and Guapo regarding stock scams, check CBAY with the list.
* - Late filings (Another late filing)
* - Heavy Dilution (OS increased 3fold in a few months even during buyback and still increasing daily)
* - Blaming Low Stock Price On Shorted Stock. (September 27th pr, blame downward pressure on shorts, but never mention dilution)
* - Company Executives Pumping There Own Stock (How many fluff PRs out in between and PPS runs a little then down)
* - Questionable O/S and Float (OS increasing everyday)
* - Inaccurate SEC Filings (Keep fluffing and inflating fake assets on filings)
* - Constant Company Delay’s (Always move slower than everyone else, remember the NOBO list? Others orderd 2 days ahead and received 2 weeks erarly)
* - Previous reverse splits, stock symbol and company name changes, sometimes accompanied by changes in the business they’re in (1 for 25 RS last December)
* - CEO~s with past histories that indicate they were involved in previous pump and dump schemes (Pawson, billion shares after the smokes cleared, IDFR)
* - CEO~s with past histories that indicate they were involved in previous pump and dump schemes (Pawson is also involved with GWDB)
* - Company executives spending a lot of time doing other things than conducting business (Using shareholder money to finance a Nascar racing team)
* - Companies that hopscotch from one business to another (Check Business description under their last filing, they have been hopping from business to business)
* - PR~s containing weasel talk (Read their financial statements and fluff PRs, always inflated property values upong acquisition and contract numbers)
Here's link again to Guapo's post:
http://www.hotstockmarket.com/forums...=36435&page=12
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I have been getting this question asked of me quite a bit in the recent weeks. “How can you spot a stock scam?”
The answer is, there is no clear and cut way to spot a scam. Obviously the better the scam, the harder to spot. Below is a list of things to look for in stock scams. The list is in no particular order and are more or less just red flags to me that may signal a scam. Just having one or two red flags is a sign of caution to me. More than four and I stay away from it, although I still might “trade” it if Momo is there.
- The company makes many promises but never delivers. Examples: Dividends, To Move Exchanges, The Stock Reaching a Particular Lofted Price
- Late Filings
- Heavy Dilution
- Heavy Pumping and Cheerleading
- Blaming Low Stock Price On Shorted Stock.
- Checkered Past by Company Executives
- New Stocks That See Quick Price Jumps and Declines
- Company Executives Pumping There Own Stock
- Failure to Meet SEC Rules and Regulations
- Questionable O/S and Float
- Inaccurate SEC Filings
- Broker Restriction on Buying and Selling
- Heavily Spammed Stocks
- Constant Company Delay’s
- No Record of Revenues or Profit for Companies that Have Traded for More Than 6 Months
- Promises of Financial Salvation
- Company Focused on Stock Price and Not The Business
- Halted Trading
- It Seems To Good To Be True
These were just a few off the top of my head. As I think of more, I will add them to the list.
Childish and sarcastic posts are all you can do, no one will bother to listen to you.
All these hypers claiming that I am paid basher. If i am, at least I would gotten pay enough to buy a membership for unlimited posts. I thought you guys said pay per post? Apparently not. Easy point to see who is more credible here. Check goose for example, he was hyping this when it was at high teens, posting mass pumps on other boards, such as "CBAY to .30 today" and hypes like that. TO DA MOON.
But so far, I am not the one misleading investors. Some ppl are.
The CEO holds no credibility, he cannot be trusted. He keep blaming the downward pressure on shorts yet they could not disclose the amount of shorted shares on the last PR NOBO. WHY? Because shorts were insignificant, dilution is the problem here.
Don't you think it is desperate of the company when they have to come out and say the pps is worth more? Pawson reminds me of SLJB.
Hey, when filings out, you will see, there will be no significant revenues (NET LOSS) because they cannot generate anything from those claimed inflated assets.
Only a couple more days? Is that too much wait to ask for confirming my words? I only expect then hypers will say, it will be better (they have assets), hold it until next year and "fly to da moon" while the boat sinks.
I have no other alias to post while hypers do. Why would I give chance for hypers to bail in more nubs? My agenda here is to stop you hypers from bailing in more ppl to lose money.
Wow, down to 30million, impossible unless they get to scam enough investors' money. (Where else you think they have the money to buyback?) 30m is possible only after R/S and another round of dilution.
The credibility of the CEO is one of the most important aspect of a valid company. A bad CEO will collapse a good company. "SLJB"