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The last update to the Chinese law is you need approval of the target country. So for USA you need FDA
Has a new China export law update happened recently that I don’t know about ?
If so please provide links to the update.
Many companies have export certificates including Dablood. It doesn’t trump the new export laws so I don’t need to see an export certificate. I already knew about that months ago.
They are “white listed “ for Europe because of CE and ONLY Europe
They have had CE for months. It’s nothing new
China only allows companies with FDA to export to USA
Dablood cannot export to USA until laws change or they get FDA
Line 302 says CE. Nothing about FDA. This is nothing new. Dablood has had CE for months just like 100s of other companies. Compare the fda reject list to this long list and I reckon some fda rejects still have CE certs, as CE cert is just fill out a form. Even easier than FDA easy form fill out no need to have test vetted by third party.
There’s nothing new about Dablood on this list.
I saw someone mention something about Dablood removing the fda symbol from their website. That happened days after we emailed the FDA to inform them about the illegal usage of their symbol. Nice to see the FDA take this seriously and act fast. We’ve reported others for the same violation and they too removed the symbol within days of sending the email.
Very well. Just because I'm curious to see what holes people will try to pick in the price list
https://imgur.com/a/0GY9Az3
This is my last post today btw so I can't respond to any of the doubters
Again, to all the doubters, just call the company yourself and get the price.
If you don't call them then you didn't really want to know anyway so there's no point in me trying to convince anyone of the authenticity of the price
I'm sure the price has gone up since April btw just no idea how much
Very well. Just because I'm curious to see what holes people will try to pick in the price list
https://imgur.com/a/0GY9Az3
This is my last post today btw so I can't respond to any of the doubters
Again, to all the doubters, just call the company yourself and get the price.
If you don't call them then you didn't really want to know anyway so there's no point in me trying to convince anyone of the authenticity of the price
I'm sure the price has gone up since April btw just no idea how much
Very well. Just because I'm curious to see what holes people will try to pick in the price list
https://imgur.com/a/0GY9Az3
This is my last post today btw so I can't respond to any of the doubters
Again, to all the doubters, just call the company yourself and get the price.
If you don't call them then you didn't really want to know anyway so there's no point in me trying to convince anyone of the authenticity of the price
I'm sure the price has gone up since April btw just no idea how much
Unfortunately I don't see any option here to post photos or attachments. Possibly a paid ihub feature.
And also in all my many years of doing Business in China, sample costs were always higher that actual order costs (except for one company who sent a few free cotter pins that were worth less than 1 cent each but I still had to pay the shipping)
Your free Chicken sampler illustration has no relation here. Dablood didn't need to give out discounted or free samples for something that was in high demand.
The Darui/Dablood/Daan sales guy didn't say anything about different costs for sample and actual order. We discussed quantities and costs. He sent me the price list. I still have it. We were very clear on pricing and quantities.
His price list said 925 yuan for a box of 50 but when I went to order one box he demanded a bit more due to price fluctuation. My cost in mid April was about $150 for a box of 50 ie $3 each roughly.
I expect the prices have increased since my purchase but $5.5M is more than enough to buy the tests, especially in April. Perhaps buying today is a different story but as we all know the order is a couple months old so we shouldn't need to worry about the price today :)
Anyone who is LONG / PRO PRED / GO PRED / PRED CAN DO NO WRONG here won't believe me anyway so just give them a call yourself and get the current price.
I believe I can answer one question here
The tests cost about $3 each (so $5.5 million is more than enough to cover the costs)
And I know because I already bought and received a box of 50 :)
Unless of course dablood completely ripped PRED off in which case I am happy to sell PRED some Dablood tests :)
Because I’m not a medical expert and it seems there are some knowledgeable people in here who might know if these antibody therapies are the same or different or similar
I think its relevant to see if sorrento are doing something unique or if they are doing something that others are doing too ie do sorrento have some sort of competitive advantage or will there be lots of competition?
If nobody has this knowledge then no problem I will go keep digging elsewhere but this board has already provided useful info so naturally this will be one place I ask questions
Can anyone weigh in on what these guys are doing?
https://news.google.com/articles/CAIiEAA35S9XY3qzviIHWrwlNAUqGQgEKhAIACoHCAowocv1CjCSptoCMPrTpgU?hl=en-US&gl=US&ceid=US%3Aen
Is it the same as SRNE or similar or what ?
Thanks
This was very useful info. Thank you very much
That’s useful info thanks
I will see what they say about that
I’ve asked two different health professionals and they both have told me antibody therapy costs on average $100k
Usually this is done for rare diseases so insurance will cover it
But $100k for every American ain’t gonna happen
So has there been any info from Sorrento on how they plan to make the cheapest antibody therapy in mankind’s history ?
Is that just to make a statement or something?
Because who would really sell at that price ? It seems like a lot here would rather go down with the ship then bail at $0.0125 so I’m thinking you’re just making a statement
Just curious
The fda list means absolutely nothing
Promedical in Australia fraudulently listed the Wondfo kit under their own name on the FDA site and then Wondfo wrote a letter saying they didn’t authorize that.
If I wanted I could probably get “Zhangguangming igg igm assurance AB Dablood covid test kit” listed on the fda website. I only need to fill out the correct paperwork and jump through all the hoops. An expert in FDA approvals already confirmed my theory and Promedical getting their name on the list also secondly proves the theory (you will see Promedical even got their name on the list a SECOND TIME AFTER THE FRAUD WOW THE FDA DOESNT CARE WHO APPLIES!!! But now Promedical are on the “no longer on the list “ list)
I’ve already proven it’s possible to fraudulently get on the fda list. Therefore being on that list isn’t the be all and end all. It’s just one step of many.
I never said there is no relationship between dablood and pred I merely doubted what the relationship was. Perhaps Brad And Sun Wei met while Brad was in HK ? Maybe Sunwei sent him a blank letter with his stamp so he could write whatever he wanted on that in perfect English? I honestly have no idea what the relationship is. I just doubt they are buying 1 million Dablood kits that’s all.
I’m not doubting the relationship exists because there is evidence in both sides of the camp. How did they get the stamp/chop ? I still have no idea and it doesn’t matter anymore.
As you say I’m just waiting now to see what happens. Don’t ask me any questions and I won’t bother posting or don’t post anything that is clearly untrue and I won’t bother posting
The last couple weeks has basically been “where are the kits “? “When will we get the kits ?” “Why is the company saying nothing?” Etc etc
All questions in curious about too. There is no need for me to post. Everyone else is doing a great job at asking the important questions
Well it was a scientist who told me that so it’s not really my point but I am curious about the validity of it
You seem to know about this field so feel free to elaborate on the the best case scenario in realistic costs of this treatment. He said it could last months or years but one scientist told me this type of treatment might only last days
What’s the truth ? Does anyone even know for sure ?
Can you get the truth then ?
This way I can ask for my money back from the medical professional. I paid for the consult.
How much would such a treatment cost ?
Is it a treatment that only needs to be done once and then you have the anti bodies for a long time ? If so how long do they stay in your body and protect you ?
Will the protection level decrease over time ? Or are you just as protected the day after treatment as you are one year later ?
Just posting “no true” isn’t helpful. Please post accurate info if the medical professional I spoke to is wrong
Thanks
A medical professional told me that this type of anti body infusion would need to be done regularly ie it isn’t a one shot deal.
The cost would be in the region of $100,000 per year and no insurance company will cover that for every American.
Therefore, even if this got full fda approval and support tomorrow no one would buy it except for maybe the top 1% Uber rich
Hence I don’t see much of a marketing opportunity due to the high costs
Brad prob thinks pawning his Pokémon collection and donating that money is worth more than his millions of shares
I have it from a good source he is at the pawn shop right now with Pokémons in hand !
I think you know that stocks go up and down all the time
Look at the chart by the month or for the year
It’s not hard to “go up” from a 52 week low lol
Congrats to everyone who bought at $0.18 i hope you bought a million dollars worth and now you’ve more than doubled your money. Well done !
Sorry for those of you who bought before that halt.
If the company remains silent and the kits don’t come my guesstimate is bankruptcy in a month or so.
I merely posted my findings. I pass on info I find. Everyone has the freedom to come to their own conclusions.
I’m still unsure of what the “association” is. There’s obviously some sort of relationship for them to get the company chop on that letter. The perfect English is very suspect to me though.
I never claimed there was NO “association “ I just claimed that it’s extremely weird. Many unusual anomalies
1) Why wouldn’t the Vice President of Dablood be aware of the Pred relationship? (in Chinese he is the Fu4zong3 - this board wont display Chinese characters so I just use the pinyin)
2) Why would the Vice President confirm they can’t make 1.5 million per day and then go on to tell us that he doubts anyone on earth can do that volume ?
3) why would the Darui sales guy sell me a box of Dablood kits and refuse to ship them outside of China ? He told me can only ship within China as they aren’t approved for export.
4) where are the kits that were ordered how long ago ? Over a month ? AYTU has recieved at least 2 shipments before Pred has announced even one shipment.
5) being on the fda list in my opinion means nothing whatsoever. A company called Promedical from Australia turned out to be a total fraud and they got on the FDA list TWICE ! Once fraudulently with the Wondfoo kit and again using just their own name and now they are on the list of “no longer on the list “ companies. I spoke with a scientist who is involved with fda approvals and she confirmed that it IS possible to submit an application for “fraudulent doesn’t exist micky mouse covid test kit” and as long as the paper work is in order I can get on the list. Don’t even need to show the physical kit. FDA puts the responsibility on the manufacturer not to lie
So for me that’s not good enough. Perhaps they are tightening things up now but when Pred applied it was the time when anyone could apply
For me this is case closed game over. I’m just watching by the side lines at this point. The volume is dropping stock price is dropping.
The only thing that will change my mind are one million kits arrived in America with evidence (not just a PR that says “yeah they are here”) and sales figures which is basically what everyone has been asking for for weeks. No point in me asking the same questions tons of others are asking basically daily. Further the ones asking are long so it’s better they ask than me.
I’m only answering your question directed at me because I remember you were a nice guy unlike some others who are just rude to anyone that doesn’t worship Pred
Let’s not debate this anymore as there’s no point. Time will prove everyone right or wrong and I’m happy to wait.
I mostly read this board to find out what the latest is on RL’s Pokémon collection. I’m worried someone else will buy them before he cashes out. He seems like a really nice guy so I’m considering going down to the pawn shop and seeing if they will swap my box of Dablood kits for the pokemons. Feel really bad for the guy
So what happens if you have a ton of stock you wanna sell but there just aren’t any buyers ? Eg you wanna sell all your stock at $0.01 but no one is willing to buy even for that cheap. Is the investor just stuck with the stock waiting for someone to buy it ?
Obviously the above situation is highly unlikely just curious about the theoretical possibilities
Thanks I’m gonna look that term up.
I have a question about the trading aspect as I am new to all this.
Could someone theoretically put in an ask of $5 and then their friend bid $5 to buy, and then the transaction happens and then it looks like the stock is now worth $5?
How does all that work I’m curious
So are you saying, in theory, I could submit one million of those forms on the same day and then all one million “get approved “ on the same day 60 days later as long as I don’t withdraw any of them ?
This is absolutely nothing anyone would ever try to brag about ?
Except perhaps someone who is trying to fool people into thinking he achieved something special ?
That Dablood LinkedIn page is new just like the one month old website is new. Very convenient :)
I see someone has already asked them on LinkedIn about the relationship with pred (4 days ago) and Neither of the 2 listed LinkedIn employees have replied to the PRED inquiry. (Mario Wang claims to be working there since January. Maybe the “international business director “ will know more than the Vice President. Let’s hope so. I eagerly await their confirmation on the LinkedIn page. Or maybe Sapphire Tang knows more and she will enlighten us?)
Their LinkedIn page is also touting the ABSOLUTE LIE that they have received Chinese Government approval for distribution of their test. What a joke !
Why doesn’t someone here do what I did ? Call Dablood and order one box of kits for goodness sake! . It’s only $150 ! Then have them ship you the kits. (They refused to ship me internationally so maybe someone else will have better luck?)
I mean you guys have blown how many thousands on stock ? Why not spend a couple hundred bucks and get yourself some actual kits and see if they ship them to you ? See if they get through customs ? That will certainly be fun, no ?
Maybe you can start buying and selling the kits yourselves? I mean you guys already know all these people that wanna buy them . Just start buying and selling them yourselves because you will certainly make more money doing that than you will buying this titanic of a stock that just keeps on tanking
Looks like I’m out of posts for today. What new 52 week low will the stock hit tomorrow ? Let’s see ....
Define “know”
I wouldn’t say I have any friends in Dablood, no
I haven’t had dinner with anyone there or played majiang with anyone.
However, I do have a Darui sales guy in my wechat who sold me a box of Dablood kits. We’ve had lots of interesting conversations about how he can’t export Dablood kits. I learned a lot of useful info from him. Does that mean I know him? I kinda think so
I also have the wechat of someone in HR of Dablood. So I guess I “know” that person too?
So that’s at least two people we could say i “know” at least a little
May i ask, is there even one single person on this board who has spoke with one single person at Dablood ? Or am I the ONLY person who made the effort to contact Dablood ? Because I would really love to compare notes but so far it seems I’m the only one who has made contact with Dablood and purchased some kits. No one ? Anyone ?
Then there’s the receptionist who answered the phone but she’s only a receptionist which we all agree she probably wouldn’t know too much
Unfortunately I wasn’t able to be physically present for the meeting with the Vice President of Dablood so yes I have to believe what my associates told me about the meeting. I really hope they didn’t lie to me.
Koolaid give me some words of wisdom. Surely your son has Dablood on speed dial and has listened in on the supply chain meetings for Preds billion kit orders. I would love to know about that
zhang,
The problem with your research is that the relationship between PRED and Dablood is real.
Whether there was some confusion over Dablood's capacity for antibody vs. PCR test kits is irrelevant. What's relevant is whether Dablood has the capacity to fill the demand from PRED and whether Dablood is willing to supply to PRED. I believe that both of these statements are true. Your group tricked the SEC into a knee-jerk reaction over a technicality. SEC obliged only because they were suspending all of the other Covid stocks at the same time.
Wellgistics gave PRED $5.5 million - why - just to make PRED look good? That's in the 10Q that is audited by Deloitte. I will take Deloitte's audit of PRED's books and records (and checking account) over your discussion with a VP that is not involved in the deal.
Yes, you are high and mighty now. Let's see how quickly you disappear when PRED completes the first million units and then receives and completes an even larger order. We are talking about tens of millions of dollars in earnings that could be coming very shortly for PRED. The shorts will have already made out and many longs will have taken losses and missed out. And that's a shame.
I think this is my last allowed post for the day
Initially I doubted the relationship was real because the person answering the phone said she had never heard of Pred but she refused to let me talk to anyone higher up. So I assumed maybe she was too low down the chain to be privy to that info (honestly, I had to always assume the relationship might be REAL. I never stop until I get objective evidence and PROOF)
Then I found the contact for a Human Resources worker who also said "Never heard of Pred" - then the second release came out with the company chop so I wondered what is going on here ? Surely a deal this big would warrant a huge company celebration dinner. This is Chinese culture, they celebrate huge deals and everyone knows about them.
So for the record I never said "the relationship is fake" - I may have said "I doubt this relationship" but that's about it. So don't accuse me of saying something unless you can quote it verbatim.
"Whether there was some confusion over Dablood's capacity for antibody vs. PCR test kits is irrelevant" - this is HIGHLY relevant as people make stock investment decisions based on sales potential. So you are absolutely wrong here. This is a ridiculous statement. If Dablood can only make 20,000 per day that has a HUGE impact on income potential and profits potential and therefore stock value. Come on you don't need to be an accountant to know this basic logic. The SEC halted PRED for a reason.
"What's relevant is whether Dablood has the capacity to fill the demand from PRED and whether Dablood is willing to supply to PRED" - yes this IS relevant and so far we have no verified capacity info other than the article I found stating (in January) that Dablood UPGRADED their factory to reach capacity of 20,000 per day. I calculate 50 days at full capacity to make the 1 million.
Further my research about their inability to export is also TRUE so capacity is absolutely useless when you can't even legally export ONE KIT. I already posted this info long ago where I was in contact with Darui and they actually sold me a box of Dablood kits but refused to send them outside China - why ? Because they CANT export ! So I had him send the kits to my associate in China where they remain to this day. Once SEC halted the stock I figured there was no more need for me to do anything. The SEC will obviously find out more than me so just let them finish the research
"Your group tricked the SEC into a knee-jerk reaction over a technicality. SEC obliged only because they were suspending all of the other Covid stocks at the same time." - shall we call the SEC and ask them to verify your insane claim ? C'mon get real.
"Wellgistics gave PRED $5.5 million - why - just to make PRED look good? That's in the 10Q that is audited by Deloitte. I will take Deloitte's audit of PRED's books and records (and checking account) over your discussion with a VP that is not involved in the deal." - so are you telling me that EVERY company that Deloitte has audited has NEVER done anything bad/wrong ? I don't think I need to do much research to find out that isn't true. Who audited Theranos ? Some rinky dink no name company ? You seem to put a lot of faith in big company names.
Not to mention the numbers they just released are terrible ! And there is still NO EVIDENCE the million kits have even left the factory. Only RUMOURS on this board
"Let's see how quickly you disappear when PRED completes the first million units and then receives and completes an even larger order. We are talking about tens of millions of dollars in earnings that could be coming very shortly for PRED." - I have no doubt in my mind that this will never happen. But it's just my opinion
The great thing about TRUTH is that it can't be stopped. Time will answer everyone's doubts.
Last post for today (max 3)
The Vice President of dablood has never heard of Pred
There may indeed be a real relationship in that higher powers of Dablood (ie the ones that refused to be interviewed) agreed to use their company chop for that PR (written in perfect English somehow) to try to add weight to their so called relationship (I am still not clear on the relationship but I know that anyone from VP down in unaware of Pred. I spoke to the receptionist my self as well as someone in Human Resources. All of them said they had no business with Pred)
Not to mention the VP also admitted to us that 1.5 million kits a day is impossible even for the biggest company never mind his little factory. The VP of Dablood told my associate that he doubted anyone on earth could make 1.5 million per day.
I also proved the astronomical figure of 30 million kits sold was in contradiction to what the Chinese government said.
So you’re assumption couldn’t be any further from the truth. The only remorse I feel is that I wasn’t able to help more people from losing their money. I proved the PR regarding Dablood was full of holes and history shows that the information I found was true
If you want to go down with the ship that’s your choice. No remorse here whatsoever
Let’s talk again after bankruptcy shall we ?
Doesn’t matter what you hear
Only matters what is legal or not
Only matters if you are on the list or not
Of course you will “hear” things . Some people hear voices in their head
I will stick to laws and regulations over “hearing things”
Already commented on that ages ago
There is a “white list” now which is part of this new regulation
The white list has WAY more companies on it and Dablood isn’t on that list either
So your link is leaving out the key details about the new “white list “
You can still export small quantities though if you label them as something different they can slip through customs but I’ve even seen reports of small shipments getting nabbed too
Bottom line is Dablood has never been on any list in China and may never get on any list.
Oh yeah and the Vice President of Dablood has never heard of Pred and knows nothing of the deal. I had someone go to Dablood and inquire. You can read into that however you want. The president of the company refused to meet with us
No it has not been approved for export
Their “supplier” Dablood still is unable to export.
Pred will probably be bankrupt before dablood is able to export, that is if they ever do get on the “white list”
If you need covid test kits I suggest you buy the ones that have already been third party proven to be good by that recent study. I think Wondfo was one of the better ones and that’s a super legit company and one of the very few that’s on China’s approved list (NMPA)
I heard 90s
I thought dablood was manufacturing them
Did pred buy a factory this week ?
Is there a link ?
Seems highly unlikely since dablood still cannot export from China
I assume that basically if the word “intent/intend” is used they legally can write anything they want after that
“We intend to cure cancer, raise the dead and achieve world peace immediately .... ps please buy our stock now”
Completely legal I guess . All those “forward looking statements “ disclaimer at the bottom makes it legal i guess
You have no evidence for this
And I also have evidence that supports the impossibility that dablood can export anything at all
The new laws require a company to be on the white list
Dablood are NOT on the white list as of this post
Darui are NOT on the white list as of this post
Daan ARE on the NMPA list for their PCR kit NOT serology kit
Therefore no dablood kits can legally be exported from China as of this post
Please stop posting ridiculous “confirmed “ information. If you have no evidence then you are either lying or passing on somewhen else’s lie
Dablood is on which list ?
Certainly NOT NMPA
Actually I disagree
I recently found out (from a scientist in this field) that an EUA from the fda isn’t hard to get.
It’s theoretically possible to get an EUA without even physically having a kit. You could theoretically submit paperwork for “Mickey mouse kit” . It doesn’t exist but you say it does. Submit fake trial papers etc. It’s purely paperwork nothing else. All you have to do is submit papers correctly and you get it. I was shocked. I thought for sure the fda would ask for a sample of the kit and do some sort of check before they give the eua, but no.
Therefore I don’t think the eua offers much of a protection to the public IMO. The fda are banking on the fact that you wouldn’t dare scam them because of the possible punishment.
Therefore I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of PRED getting an eua in their name. It’s just paperwork.