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I will give anyone a prize that can short JBII. We can work out the details.
The fact is. It can't be done. I have tried and tried and tried. OR give me the specific details of how I can short JBII. I will then short it.
JBII STOCK CAN NOT BE SHORTED. PERIOD. A BROKER HAS TO LOAN SHARES IN ORDER FOR JBII TO BE SHORTED. NO BROKER WILL DO THAT.
JUST CALL TOMORROW AND SEE IF YOU CAN SHORT JBI. YOU CAN'T! CALL ANY BROKER.
EXACTLY! YOU CAN'T FIND A BROKER THAT WILL SHORT JBII. PERIOD! CALL BROKERS ALL DAY TOMORROW ALL OVER THE COUNTRY AND FOREIGN COUNTRIES AND THE SEAS. YOU WILL NOT BE ABLE TO SHORT THE STOCK.
BLAT! [BRICK WALL]
GRANTG2
JBII can be shorted in Canada, in offshore accounts, & by hedge funds anywhere.
PERIOD!
NAH! AIN'T SO. TRY SHORTING IT! ANY OF THOSE. CAN'T BE DONE.
JBII UP 55.8% IN JUST THE LAST COUPLE OF WEEKS! THAT MAKES UP A LOT OF YOY LOSSES. I THANK MY LUCKY STARTS THAT I, ALONG WITH MANY OTHERS, BOUGHT BACK IN.
JBII IS A LONG WAY FROM BEING DEAD. IT IS JUST REGURGITATED AND REGURGITATED MISINFORMATION TO INTIMATE THAT JOHN IS JUST TRYING TO ENRICH HIMSELF AND RUIN THE COMPANY.
NOT ONE THING NEW ABOUT JOHN SINCE THE MEDIA CREDITS FIASCO, WHAT, FOUR YEARS AGO.
GETTING #3 PROCESSOR GOING IS OF VITAL IMPORTANCE AND THAT IS IN PROCESS.
JBI CANNOT BE SHORTED LEGALLY. NO LEGIT BROKER HAS THE SHARES TO LEND FOR ANYONE TO GO SHORT SO NO ONE HAS A SHORT POSITION. PERIOD. CAN'T BE DONE. I'VE TRIED.
I DON'T KNOW IF IT CAN BE DONE IN A FOREIGN COUNTRY OR SOMETHING BUT I KNOW JBI CAN'T BE SHORTED IN THIS COUNTRY. THERE IS NO SHORT POSITION BY ANYONE.
There are two facilities. One at NF and one at Throold. There are over 50 employees working full out at them. What are they doing?
Processors #1 and #2 are in production. That does not mean running 100% of the time. #3 is being installed and will go into production at some point.
Parts are on order and are being made for #4 and #5.
Somewhere, JBI will become CFP, perhaps this year.
It's pretty simple and pretty clear as I see it.
I just thank mu lucky stars that I sold at $7.05 back in Feb of '10 and then bought back in at $.29 on 5/1/13.
This stock CAN'T be shorted. Try as I might, no way to short JBII.
THERE ARE NO LIES AND PUMPING. JUST MOSTLY TRYING TO GET #3 PROCESSOR GOING. ALL HANDS ON BOARD FOR THAT.
ANY INFORMATION REGARDING #1 & #2 PROCESSORS RUNNING AND THE STATUS OF #3 PROCESSOR WOULD BE APPRECIATED.
THAT WOULD BE CURRENT INFORMATION THAT WE COULD USE.
I NOTICE THE DATE ON THIS IS IN 2009. THAT IS SO OLD AND HAS BEEN DEALT WITH. JOHN GOT A TAP ON THE WRIST FOR HIS MISTAKE OF MISHANDLING THE MEDIA CREDITS. EVERYTHING STEMS FROM THAT.
ACTUALLY, THERE IS NO INTEREST IN 4 YEAR OLD INFORMATION THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN DEALT WITH. WHAT IS GOING ON NOW RE #3 PROCESSOR AND CURRENT SALES. THAT'S OUR FOCUS NOW.
I thank my lucky stars that I sold my shares @$7.05 3 years ago and then reloaded @$.29 on 5/1/13. Waiting for the big move now.
Actually, I think there are enough "on board" Too many on board IMO!
BASICALLY, WE ARE AT A GOOD PLACE NOW WITH JBI. THE INFORMATION FROM 4 YEARS AGO IS MEANINGLESS. WHAT IS HAPPENING NOW IS WHAT IS IMPORTANT.
WE HAVE A PRODUCT. THE PRODUCT IS ACCEPTABILITY AND SELLING AS SOON AS IT IS PRODUCED. THAT MEANS CUSTOMERS ARE SATISFIED.
WE HAVE TWO LOOMING PROBLEMS. 1)HAVING FUNDS TO KEEP OPERATING. 2)HAVING PROCESSORS PROCESSING.
AT THE MOMENT, THERE IS CASH ON HAND AND WORK IS ONGOING ON PROCESSOR #3.
THESE WILL DETERMINE OUR FUTURE. NOT MISSTEPS AND MISTAKES MADE IN THE PAST.
JOHN HAS OVER PROMISED BIG TIME IN THE PAST.
HE WAS MISTAKEN IN VALUING THE MEDIA CREDITS AS HE DID. (NOW IN THE PAST).
JOHN HAS CERTAINLY NOT BEEN THE BEST IN SELECTING AND HIRING STAFF, EVEN THOUGH HE HAS MANY EXCELLENT, LOYAL, HARD WORKING EMPLOYEES. LET'S HOPE HIS SELECTIONS ARE BETTER GOING FORWARD.
SO WHERE ARE WE? AT A CRITICAL POINT FOR SURE.
I'M GOING TO HANG TOUGH AND ADD TO MY POSITION AS, AND IF, THE PPS MOVES UP AS LONG AS FUNDS CAN BE RAISED FOR OPERATIONS, HOPEFULLY CFP, AND PROCESSORS RUN.
THERE'S TOO MUCH PROPERTY. TOO MANY PROCESSORS. TOO MANY CUSTOMERS. TOO MANY SALES. TOO MANY GOVERNMENT AGENCIES. TOO MANY TESTS MADE. TOO MANY INVESTOR VISITS. TOO MANY EMPLOYEES FOR THIS TO BE A SCAM.
IMO.
HUH? Is this saying John stole the money?
The way he was investigated by the SEC, I would think he would be under the jail by now.
Laughable!
2009-2012 John took salary of $585,832. Stocks may have some value someday.
Where are the $millions?
Come on! He can't just take cash and go with it. There are laws.
Have you forgotten about the over 20,000,000 million of his shares that he returned to the Treasury?
Didn't he work for a long time with no pay? How about that?
You can't just take money and shares from the company!!!
THE WAY JOHN GETS MONEY IS TO MAKE THE COMPANY A SUCCESS. THAT'S WHERE THE BIG MONEY IS. ALL ELSE HE GETS IS PEANUTS. THE FACT IS HE IS WORKING UNTOLD NUMBERS OF HOURS NOW TO MAKE THE COMPANY A SUCCESS. NOT MANY MEN WOULD HAVE BEEN ABLE TO CONTINUE AS HE HAS. HIS PAYDAY IS YET TO COME.
IN NO WAY HAS JOHN MADE A MILLION DOLLARS. FAR FROM IT. HE COULD HAVE MADE MORE MONEY IN WORKING FOR MIT, GOVT, ETC. THIS HAS BEEN A GREAT SACRIFICE ON HIS PART, ACTUALLY.
THE ONLY WAY HE WILL MAKE A GREAT RETURN IS FOR THE COMPANY TO BE SUCCESSFUL. IF THE COMPANY FAILS, HE FAILS.
REGURGITATED!
MEANWHILE SALES CONTINUE AND PROGRESS IS BEING MADE ON PRODUCING MORE.
NEW PROCESSES, IN WHATEVER, HAVE PROBLEMS AFTER PROBLEMS TO SOLVE. THIS IS NO DIFFERENT.
THERE ARE MANY THINGS TO SHOW FOR THE FUNDS. THERE ARE SALES BEING PRODUCED FROM A NEW PROCESS. SOON TO BE 3 PROCESSORS IN PRODUCTION. ALL PRODUCTION IS SOLD. NO SMALL ACHIEVEMENT.
NOTHING CROOKED ABOUT COMPENSATION.
HE HAS NOT MADE HIMSELF A MILLIONAIRE. FAR FROM IT. WILL HAVE A GREAT PAYDAY IF COMPANY IS SUCCESSFUL. NOT OTHERWISE.
I HAVEN'T LOST MY MONEY. FAR FROM IT. HAVE CASHED A BIG CHECK SEVERAL TIMES, AS HAVE MANY OTHERS.
HE MADE THE MISTAKE OF HANDLING THE MEDIA CREDITS WRONG[UNKNOWN AT THE TIME BUT ADVISED AGAINST DOING AS HE DID]
THERE ARE TOO MANY THINGS GOING ON AT NF AND THOROLD FOR THIS TO BE A SCAM. IF IT WAS A SCAM, FUNDS WOULD NOT BE SPENT FOR #3 PROCESSOR NOW.
THERE ARE OVER 50 EMPLOYEES. THERE ARE TWO SITES. NF AND THOROLD. THERE ARE CUSTOMERS. THERE ARE SALES.
JOHN MADE ONE BAD JUDGEMENT ON THE VALUE OF THE MEDIA CREDITS. EVERYTHING ELSE COMES FROM THAT ONE BAD JUDGEMENT. ALL THE CHARGES WERE AROUND THAT MISTAKE. IT WAS A STUPID MISJUDGEMENT TRYING TO UP THE VALUE OF ASSETS TO SELL A PIPE.
THERE ARE NO LIES OTHERWISE.
BEING A FAILURE REMAINS TO BE SEEN. COULD BE. COULD NOT BE. DEPENDS ON SALES GOING FORWARD WHICH DEPENDS ON # 3 UP AND RUNNING, MAINLY.
THIS CAN'T BE A SCAM. TOO MANY PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TO THE SITES AT NF AND THOROLD. THE PROCESSORS ARE AT NF. OFFICES AND OTHER FACILITIES AT THOROLD. EVERYTHING IS THERE TO BE CHECKED OUT. NOTHING HIDDEN EXCEPT PROCESS FOR GETTING FUEL FROM PLASTIC.
Quote from where?
Some poster?
John made a mistake on the media credits. Not dishonest. A mistake.
There has been no dishonesty. The SEC investigation shows that. SEC would have prosecuted for dishonesty instead of tap on the wrist.
THERE IS NO DISHONESTY HERE. A BAD WRONG CALL ON THE MEDIA CREDITS AND NO EXCUSE FOR IT BUT DISHONEST? NAH! OVER PROMISING? YEAH. UNDERESTIMATING COSTS AND OVERESTIMATING PERFORMANCES. YEAH. DISHONESTY? NAH.
UP 86% IN JUST A COUPLE OF WEEKS. THOSE THAT BOUGHT ARE MAKING UP A LOT FAST.
THERE IS TOO MUCH IN PLACE FOR IT TO BE A SCAM. THERE HAVE BEEN MISJUDGEMENTS AND MISTAKES AND TOO MUCH ENTHUSIASM BUT THERE ARE NO CROOKS HERE. THERE ARE NO CON MEN HERE. TOO MANY PEOPLE FROM THIS BOARD HAVE BEEN TO THE FACILITIES TO KNOW IT IS NOT A CON JOB. JOHN HAS TOO MUCH TO GAIN FROM A SUCCESSFUL COMPANY TO WANT TO DO ANYTHING EXCEPT MAKE IT SUCCESSFUL.
I SAY DON'T HAVE ONE. DON'T SPEND THE TIME AND MONEY. GET #3 GOING!!!!!!!!!!!
I could not agree with you more. My greatest concern for a long time now is running out of funds. That is why CFP is so vital. #3 processor on line and #1 & #2 producing should be everyone at JBII's biggest concern and have their all out effort, which I sure it does. We all know that all this stuff about the past is just that. STUFF. But we also know that there have to be sales forthcoming. I am amazed that John has been able to get the PIPES that he has but there has to be a limit to them. A low pps for them doesn't bother me as much as not being able to do them does. SO! Anyway you look at it, it's performance time. Three processors producing! Sales! CFP!
SPEAKING OF SOMETHING WORTH ADVERTISING EVERY DAY FOR TWO YEARS!!!!
JBII IS A LONG WAY FROM BEING DEAD. IT IS JUST REGURGITATED AND REGURGITATED MISINFORMATION TO INTIMATE THAT JOHN IS JUST TRYING TO ENRICH HIMSELF AND RUIN THE COMPANY. HIS HUMUNGOUS REWARD WILL COME FROM THE COMPANY BEING SUCCESSFUL.
IT IS TRUE THAT GETTING QUALIFIED PEOPLE TO SERVE ON THE BOARD WILL BE TOUGH RIGHT NOW. PROBABLY A WASTE OF TIME TO TRY EXCEPT FOR SOMEONE ALREADY ON THE PAYROLL.
WHAT JOHN CAN GET FROM THE COMPANY NOW IS PEANUTS TO WHAT HE WILL MAKE FROM THE COMPANY BEING SUCCESSFUL SO NO MOTIVE TO WANT TO DO ANYTHING OTHER THAT MAKE A GREAT SUCCESS.
"The investors that were a part of the control group filing are bailing from the agreement".
WHERE DO YOU GET THIS INFORMATION? HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY ARE "BAILING"? JUST AN ASSUMPTION ON YOUR PART?
Good question. I simply don't know. Does anyone?
WHAT FILTH? THERE HAVE BEEN MISTAKES AND MISJUDGEMENTS AND ONE WRONG MOVE[VALUE OF MEDIA CREDITS]. THIS IS COMMON IN NEW PROJECTS. "IF IT CAN GO WRONG, IT WILL GO WRONG". TO CLAIM THAT JOHN IS LESS THAN HONORABLE IS WRONG.
NAH! MURPHY'S WORKING OVERTIME! JOHN DID MAKE A MISTAKE WITH THE MEDIA CREDITS. HE SHOULD HAVE LISTENED TO THE ADVISE. OTHERWISE, HE HAS OVERESTIMATED RESULTS. THIS IS STANDARD FOR NEW ADVENTURES. THIS APPEARS TO ALL HAVE BEEN CORRECTED IN THAT UNLESS SOMETHING IS PROVEN, THERE HAVE BEEN NO PROMISES MADE. I WOULD THINK THAT INFORMATION WE GET GOING FORWARD WILL BE RELIABLE. IN OTHER WORDS,"LESSONS LEARNED". AS TO THIS BEING A "FIASCO", THE JURY IS STILL OUT ON THAT.
The company is a lot closer to being profitable than it was 2 years ago. #3 is much closer to production is the reason. But it is correct that getting a BOD is going to be very difficult if not impossible. BOD's have had so many problems in recent years that good people are gun shy about serving on boards of companies that aren't doing well. #3 producing and CFP would be helpful but even that might not be enough to get people to serve on this board.
There have been mistakes, misjudgements, wrong estimates but not lies. John should not have places a values on the media credits like he did, and against advice he was given. That was his bad. But lies? Nah.
HAVING HANDSOME MAN EXPLAINING PATENT PENDING PROCESS IS A GOOD THING. ALL THE PROCESSORS. ALL THE PROPERTY AT NF AND THOROLD. ALL THE GOVT AGENCIES INVOLVED. ALMOST 60 EMPLOYEES. CAN'T BE A CON.
ACTUALLY, AT THIS POINT, AS LATE AS IT IS, ALL IS COMING UP GOOD!
NO ONE STUCK THERE ACTUALLY. SOLD LONG AGO AND BOUGHT BACK AT MUCH LOWER COST.