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Again this is for the other longs For years we have traded ideas about huge buyout ideas and dreams. Few have ever really pushed any licensing plans (DB did I think) My Corporate law is not great. Do have some experience with civil, workman's comp, personnel injury. In those type of cases there is often a dollar amount reached in the 11th hour and usually set up as a payment plan.... So my question is, In a Corporate suit situation like we are in is there ever a payment plan?
I not referring to a license for future years use of patent , I am thinking paying off the damages over years in smaller bites might be a little easier to swallow.
DB great respect for you and agree with you 99% of the time however this time I would agree to disagree And not for nothing this is no longer the team that got us here..... we are now working with a NEW legal team So the lawyers who you say have advised us so well are no longer on board
Our BOD has done a fine job, last November proves that. However they are not infallible, Even the very best Professionals make mistakes and Fumble the ball, throw an Interception and Coaches call the wrong play.
In this case I truly believe that not releasing the the new damages. Has been a Big Swing and a Miss
Charm
I am in 100% agreement The blame for the stock languishing here rests solely on the fact that the new infringement claims have not been updated
I usually yield to the well written and thought out posts. of others.
I am sure we will be countered which is good for the broad as it brings all ideas forward.
In this case I believe the correct course of action would have been... A swift ONE...TWO punch for the knock out
Rumble Thank you kindly will be checking it regularly as I feel we are close
DB thank you and exotic both for your quick replies. it was posted a day about a week ago that we have a new firm "Thorpe North Western" I just haven't been able to find anything confirming this. {hired to help? hired to replace?)
and I concern with others .... It is go to have you back DB
Rumble Do you have a link to confirm the new legal team as you posted it was on uspto site I just can't seem to find it
thanks
Can anyone confirm we have a new Legal Firm representing VPLM
not just a link to a legal firm . But something that actually confirms it
Thanks in advance
Studious It is my belief that the stay in itself will have only a small impact on pps maybe moving us to .20-.25 However if the Stays and the new damages are released together or closely timed. I would think we will reach new highs at least to what Hearmeout was thinking I would guess somewhere around .75 Now, if you add in a new announcement of additional suits with the stays and damages I see the pps north of 1.00
But then again I tried to chase a rainbow once.
V
I absolutely agree with you .... On the news the motion is denied and stays are lifted. I believe we will see .75 or higher whisper quietly though and don't tell the shorts..... I am leaning heavily toward the 1.00
GLTA
V
No Sir you did not it was my way of agreeing with you. I find you and DB to be the long and steady hands of this board doing much to inform some and help others to see the bigger picture I/we (other longs) appreciate your posts and thought out comments
V
In other words how can VPLM possibly be a Pump and Dump if they are saying nothing at this point quietly working and waiting
There can be NO Pump and Dump.... if there is NO PUMP
L&L
Thank for taking the time to look back and post the part of the list you have, Greatly Appreciated When I look at the list and do a little extra homework (who has sued who already) I can only wonder how much bad blood is already out there and if a Vplm would be used to spill more. Apple and Samsung already hate each other, So do AT&T and Vonage Facebok and Twitter would it not be within possibilities.... That Company Q acquires VPLM and solves their infringement problems Then uses VPLM's patents as weapon of sorts against their competitors recouping the purchase price and more Possibly Billions back to Company Q from competitors
Doesn't that in it self make things very interesting as to where the price maybe could be? should be? or will be?........It's FUN FUN FUN to imagine
GLTA
DeerBalls First let me say that I have great respect for you and the time you have invested here as a long. You have continually provided a steady hand with well thought out posts and timely and informative messages.
This time however I believe you may have missed the point to my question about the list of infringers. At the bottom of every post you have "Everything here is MY OPINION! I am making NO buy or sell recommendations here! DO YOUR OWN DUE DILIGENCE!" Well isn't Seeing the list exactly that,, part of Due Diligence? Is simply hearing about it enough? Or would seeing it, examining it, and evaluating it's names, and their potential for infringement, be part of a more thorough Due Diligence?
We the posters to this board continually talk about the infringers Apple, AT&T, Verizon, and Twitter and 60 others.... Is there a list of the 60 others/ Does anyone besides VPLM have the list or know how or where to find it? I am very curious as to who is on it and how much bigger some of the infringers must be then some of those named in suits already.
Samsung? Motorola? Facebook? Instagram? etc are this names on the list ?????
V At this point I can't rule anything out... Twitter is not my first thought to buy VPLM It still seems like Google and Qcom are a much better fit. Although someone mentioned Softbank (deerballs ??} the other day and that really had/has me thinking.
If you look at Twitter they have a claimed 2.6 billion liability now,
that is fairly certain to be increased. and Vplm would likely be looking for a buyout price north of 10 billion with the successes of the November decisions. With that said I just don't see how Twitter could make it work
and that liability hanging over their head, it may very well be why some of Twitters suitors seem to have lost interest and moved on This is all just speculation guessing,, food for though and conversation GLTA and hopefully soon
Nope I did not forget just don't think they would want to or be able to come up with another 10 billion on top of the 2.6 I also am not sure they will only be liable for 2.6 billion once the new numbers are released
I do believe Google or Facebook is a better fit than Twitter
And there is still Apple sitting in the back watching
I agree that Twitter may become the first to license However I do not believe they will buy VPLM as the price would be somewhere around half of their value. Candidates for purchase..... I wonder about Facebook (who then would have twitter by the short ones) Google (with such a huge internet presents.) And what about Amazon (who just bought Ring) and has hopes of venturing into just about everything, as well as have billions and billions of cash on hand thus corning the internet VOIP market making them billions more in settlement and licensing fees
Hear is my question
Why was only one stay lifted? I understand the Apple stay, as there is a request(appeal) for a re-hearing. Until the request is denied it only makes sense to stay in place. But what about Verizon they did not appeal and it would seem that if Twitters stay is lifted so should theirs be as well. Am I missing something
I would like to believe you are right about the Talks. However it is just as likely the Judge for the STAY is just waiting for the ruling on the Motion for EX Parte communication. Once the Motion is cleared out of the way, the table set to lift the Stay Either way (talks or motion) I see all good for VPLM and its share holders I believe we will be celebrating soon enough
I posted this idea before I see Appl fighting to the end on the outside chance they win. However if they lose I believe they will buy VPLM somewhere around 10-15 billion. This then would put them in the position to recoup all and more from the other infringers This is key The other infringers would look at the fight APPL put on realize theirs is similar or weaker and wonder if APPL lost against VPLM what chance do we have now against APPL the new owner of the patents. This would leave us somewhere between 6-10+ pps
just a thought to ponder
Just foe nothing
I would guess GOOGLE is the buyer and for between 8-10 Billion
There is alos a flip side to the hard ball game that APPLE is playing
Yes drag out the fight and hope we quit, run out of money, or lose. If all fails and VPLM prevails then it must be because the patents are solid and enforceable ..... now that is when APPLE will buy us not because their back is against the wall.. But because the battle was won and the course laid.
After the acquisition. all other infringers fall into line If Goliath
lost what chance do we have, we better pay up ALLOWING Apple TO RE COOP
ALL OF THE BUY OUT PRICE MANY TIMES OVER
GREAT post Positive NRG
I see another confidence builder coming Friday? when VPLM's Lawyers file Our response to a rather weak APPLE challenge of the Sawyer Letters
hoping it will move the share price and keep a slow climb until the 26th
Cheers to a wonderful 2018
Teacher
To a point I would agree with you, Although I do not believe that VPLM is a scam or a shell. I do agree that that at this point no reputable firm or institution would be interested in Vplm at this point, I wouldn't either, if I were investing other peoples money.
That said I believe there will be a HUGE interest by institutions when VPLM wins it's first case or gets it first licensing deal.
One deal for several Billion or one penalty award 8-9 Billion and the Stock is now very, very, interesting and a much safer play
Institutions will pay attention and get in from 5.00 dollars and up and ride this stock to the 20s or 30s
It is not as much of a dream as you would thick with every 1.3 billion the stock moves a dollar give or take a bit So think of the 5 big players in U.S. that need to square up. Along with Europe and the world What was said by Sawyer 50 plus claims
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