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get, so what do you care about relating to ecpn and why?
Get, if they do it won't be for more than $0.01 a share and that will be over time and there will be some fat commissions to come out of that. They will put it in the best light possible. But, if shareholders want to maximize the value of the iron then they need to put up el cap for bidding. Lay everything out to the broad mining market.
However, that would screw up stumblebums self-enriching side deals so it won't happen. Just watch, management will claim dire financial emergency and a the need to do a deal asap and that logistascum are the only option.
get, is ecpn management actually gonna admit that ol ista has been right for the last 15+ years, and there are no PMs at el cap, or are they gonna try and continue the silly fantasy that the PMs are there they just can't get them out?
The conference call be nothing but a listing of meaningless lame made up excuses and the real problem (lack of PMs at el cap) will not be addressed.
There is one problem that will be addressed and solved.The authorized share count will jump a bunch and then rampant dilution funding can continue so culprits and cohorts can continue to be paid as they have grown accustomed to be paid.
The good thing is, ol stumblebum can't restrict the questions the SEC asks, if the SEC ever gets off their arse and asks any.
Hey pani, I hear ol jonny stumblebum don't want to rub shoulders with shareholders on account he will get strangled and the vaunted may 23 meeting in scorchdale has been changed to a conference call with tight restrictions on questions. Is this true?
Hi there pani, good to see you back, you planing to go down with the ecpn ship after all?
Well it all started with ol chuckiepoo and lying larryloo way back in the 1990’s. They had a few scams going but they weren’t working out too well. They got ta talking about some desert dirt scams and how they were doing pretty good extracting money from rube’s pockets. Chuckiepoo said “we can do that, do ya know of any mining properties we can dress up in a precious metal costume?” Ol lying larryloo said ”well I know of this old derelict iron mine, it ain’t worth much as an iron mine but we can get it cheap and pretend it’s got PMs”.
And a SCAM was born!!
It worked pretty darn good. They formed G&M and talked a bunch of people out of their money. Got ol onebeliever to actually mortgage his house to put money in. But after a while they were running out of rube’s so they decided they needed to expand their base of marks and listed ecpn which bought into el cap with shares giving liquidity to the important cohorts.
Of course only those who exercised that liquidity made out like bandits. Ol onebeliever weren’t one of those on account of him believing the greed feeding lies ol chuckiepoo and lying larryloo were putting out.
Things went Ok for awhile. Whenever they needed some news they would have their chief offsider handy dandy randy spruce up some samples with inquart and they were away.
They invited some mining companies to have a look and buy them out but those dang companies wouldn’t let handy dandy randy anywhere near their samples so their results were real. They wrote ol chuckie about the lack of PMs at el cap but ol chuckiepoo knew that was on account of those silly highly expert and successful mining companies just did not know how to assay dirt like ol chuckie did.
People were starting to wonder so they decided to try and add some legitimacy to the board. They got a few real mining people to bite but they smelled scam pretty darn quick and disappeared. I think Gordon Ellis lasted less than 2 weeks. Finally they fooled paper pushing mining exec Pavlich into joining and being CEO.
That worked for a while but then Pavlich caught on to the total lack of PMs at el cap and went and told everybody. That is just not the way to run a scam, so chuckie came roaring back to put things right. He said, “Handy Randy!! Listen up!! Order some more inquart!! Were a going into Demonstration Mode. Send the bill to lying larryloo.” And away they went again.
Of course they needed some help and new blood. There was this shareholder that was real pissed off about what happened to the price of the shares he bought. Jonny stumbleton said “you yahoos don’t know what yer doing, I have lost a lot of money here and I will tell you one thing!! I never lose money!! Got that!! Now elect me to ceo and I will strut around with my chest out and put things right, Or at least give the impression that things are right. And you will pay me good for my efforts. If I can’t get my money back from selling my shares then I will get it back by siphoning off money raised from rampant dilution of the company.”
And he did just that. And some people think he always lies.
So here we are today. Stumbleton has run out of steam since he cannot change the fact there are no PMs at el cap no matter how hard he lies about it. So they will hafta have a revolution. Fool shareholders and prospective shareholders into thinking things have changed for the better. A new paradigm. They are testing the iron paradigm. Maybe that will fly for a bit. They might try and ramp up the REE fairy tale.
But one thing is highly likely. Stumbelton, lying larryloo, chuckiepoo and the other culprits and cohorts will walk off into the sunset scotfree with their pockets stuffed with shareholder money.
The blatant pumpers have disappeared but there are still a few management apologists hanging about. They are disguised as sage voices of reason trying to convince shareholder that what has happened with ecpn is totally normal for a Jr. miner and it is just the way the cookie crumbled. It was certainly not econ managements fault.
A perfect example is scoopy ruby. Her latest totally idiotic statement is that the only way to know if el cap has any PMs is to DRILL DRILL DRILL and since ecpn does not have money to drill then shareholders might just as well forget the PMs and get excited about iron.
That is a load of pure unadulterated krap. ecpn has hundreds of core boxes full of drill core from the past. They got acres and acres of outcropping dirt and iron ore that is the same as what is at depth. Ruby's statement is nothing but a bald faced lie and she is nothing but a bald faced lair. She is a perfect candidate for the ecpn BOD.
Well it is official. All of ecpn’s pumping pimps have disappeared from all the boards. Those like looney anooney, full of malarkey arkie and one cussing cuzin have run off squealing and wimpering with their tail between their legs to go hide under a bush.
Panipoo was the last pumper standing. He showed remarkable resilience in the face of constant news proving that ista has been correct all along. I thought he might show some huevos and go down with the ship. But alas, even he has hightailed it.
Panipoo, I think you are right! there should be some real good laughs provided at the shareholder meeting. In fact several shareholders have stated they might go to the meeting for the entertainment value only since ya can't believe a word that comes out of ecpn management's mouths. Yep it should be real good fun watching ol stumbleton make excuses for no PM production. Whats he gonna blame it on this time? Who knows, he just might get struck by an attack of honesty for the first time in his life and tell everyone "ol ista was right all along, there ain't no PMs at el cap".
That would be good, hearing the first honest words out of that deceivers mouth.
git, I am not sure how much the disgraceful delgratia management walked off with. But Delgracia is just one small chapter in ager's history of scamming. He continues ripping off investors with currently operating srch and irld. I think he is lying larryloo's mentor.
panipoo, "I kissed the girls and made them cry", I am sure ecpn management will have a bunch to announce at the meeting. Just like all the shareholder meeting, they will arrive absolutely brimming with bald faced lies.
But you haven't answered my questions. Come on have a go.
Are we gonna find out into whose pockets the $40 million ecpn spent in the last 12 years went into?
Are we gonna find out whether handy dandy randy or charlatan davidson salted Clyde’s and others samples or if it was a tag team?
Do we get to find out what the numerous mining companies had to say to ecpn management after they came and evaluated el cap?
Do we get to see the sample results from the mining companies expert teams that evaluated el cap?
Are we gonna see all the correspondence between ecpn management and aurasource, logistica, gulf coast mining scammers, planet resourceless, various sundry Chinese and all the mining companies that visited etc?
Are you sure this will be made available at the shareholder meeting or will shareholders have to wait for the trial?
clyde's mate ager who walked away with a big pile of dough - the past is the key to the future
Delgratia has been around for 13 years and has turned nary a profit. But boosted by encouraging press releases about prospects in Nicaragua, Mexico, and the state of Nevada, the stock--which traded for as little as $3.50 a year ago on Nasdaq's small-cap market--rose to about $8 as the year began. Then it got crazy. The company posted promising drill-hole results from its project in Nevada, and a member of Delgratia's investor relations team claimed a potential deposit of five million ounces in gold. Shares quadrupled--increasing to a high of $34.75 on Wednesday, March 19.
The denouement was predictably hideous. Questions cropped up over the Nevada property's value. A Nevada mining official challenged the company's test results. The stock went into free fall, and in one day lost roughly half its value before Nasdaq halted trading on Friday, March 21. In a statement from Delgratia's chairman, Dr. Charles Ager, the company backed off from the claim of five million ounces, saying, "it is premature to quantify the potential of this gold system." The same press release also revealed that Delgratia was increasing its interest in the Nevada property. The unusual admission? It was acquiring the stake from a company incorporated in the British Virgin Islands that is 50% owned by Ager's family.
And who could forget those 1,000-ft.-plus drill intersections from Delgratia Mining’s Josh property in Nevada, or the company’s 5-million-oz. calculation made in haste on the back of an envelope? It is not often we hear executives telling mining analysts (and onebelievers) that they should buy shares of their company (Delgratia) if they “want to get rich”; with the alternative choice being to stay on the sidelines and “stay poor.” And it is not often that we see an “audit” performed that purports to investigate assay results suspected of being phony, yet which places an obvious suspect on the audit team after swearing him to “secrecy.” Oh, and by the way, the audit finds that Delgratia’s top brass are innocent and the “victims of data falsification.”
Oh goody All will be revealed, we gonna find out everything.
That means we are gonna find out whose pockets the $40 million, ecpn disappeared in the last 12 years, went into.
Were gonna find out whether handy dandy randy or charlatan davidson salted Clyde’s and others samples or if it was a tag team,
we get to find out what the numerous mining companies had to say to ecpn management after they came and evaluated el cap,
we get to see the sample results from the mining companies expert teams that evaluated el cap,
we gonna see all the correspondence between ecpn management and aurasource, logistica, gulf coast mining scammers, planet resourceless, various sundry Chinese and all the mining companies that visited etc
Are you sure this will be made available at the shareholder meeting or will shareholders have to wait for the trial?
that is rich, ecpn is gonna sue because the refiner didn't get the PMs out of dirt that has no PMs
you are straying from the point sandy. ol chuckiepoo made a lucrative career of scamming a PMless mediocre iron deposit into the world's best gold deposit. He fooled thousands for decades. Unbelievably many still think there is gold at el cap.
While I admit chuckiepoo's talents are only good for scamming, he did use those talents to great effect, which suggests he is not a complete idiot.
from joe, he has proved to be reliable
yesterday
"New Update on ECPN: Shareholders have been expecting payment for the deal they made back in December for the 2200lbs remaining at the pilot plant and had been told it would arrive by the end of March. March 31st has come and went without a word. However, the truth is that the "canadian refinery" never processed the material or if they did they did not got any precious metals from the ECPN "hyper-concentrates". Either way, ECPN is NOT GETTING PAID and have been informed they'll get their material back from the refinery. Again, no one knows if it will be old processed material or un-opened drums that were never touched.
What's amazing is David Davidson was paid $10K by ECPN to go and oversee the "baking process". However, Davdison instead pocketed the money and never went to Canada. He's also not returning the money either......
Futhermore, Stapleton had been reporting to board members that the material had been smelted back in February and that roughly 3000oz's had been produced. Apparently it was all a lie and none of this deal was real.
Just another scam run by Stapleton, Lozensky, Davidson and Richau to enrich themselves while driving the value of the company. This way they can engineer a buyout for pennies on the dollar yet have enough equity to retain a substantial position in whatever new company they start. The SEC needs to investigate these con-artists ASAP"
Git, yah I know it could have some kind of value way below shipping costs. I think it was shipped and will be shipped back to try and prove that shysters like JS really believed there was PMs and thus protect him from accusations that he knowingly scammed investors. It will probably work.
git, any number divided by zero is undefined. So it is impossible to calculate the how many more times the back shipping will cost compared to the value of the concentrates
panipoo, I told you some time ago that ecpn would have to pay return shipping or disposal costs for worthless dirt sent to refiners. No PMs will ever come out of any el cap dirt unless contaminated with inquart beforehand.
jron, DD's absence provides an excuse to numb brains who will claim that there are PMs in the dirt but the refinery didn't know how to get them out. Refineries who process millions of ounces of PMs per year need charlatan davidsons technical help (ha ha).
Since el cap has no PMs, the iron is the only thing of value but isn't worth much, especially spread to 500,000,000 shares. But could be a money spinner to s select few like JS, LL, DD and AR.
get, the money from PM production isn't missing. There was never ever any PMs produced to produce the money. However $millions invested by shareholders has gone missing. You can find it in various pockets. In my opinion the order from highest to lowest amount would be LL, JS, CM, DD, plus other sundry characters like AR etc
panipoo, there will be no significant revenue from PM production at el cap before, during or after the shareholder meeting. There are no PMs to produce. The PMs were always and always will be a fantasy mirage to get people to buy shares.
git, that 2 year low share price is very temporary. I think that perhaps the new board members may actually have a bit of morals and integrity. This limits the lying that lying larryloo can do to bring in new marks to buy shares. And management has to sell share to somebody. There will be no significant revenue to pay for corruption or anything else.
Panipoo, they are hearing about what is going on from the likes of lying larryloo, chuckiepoo, charlatan davidson and stumbleton. When has anything about ecpn coming out of their mouths ever turned out to be true?
Two new board members that don't have the foggiest clue about mining or mineral production to complement the other 6 board members that also don't have the foggiest clue about mining or mineral production. Great cast of characters for a precious metals mining company that has no precious metals. When the regulators finally pounce they can credibly claim ignorance.
The two new board members have zero credibility to determine the value of a mining property. They are shareholders that bought ecpn at a much higher share price than current price. What does that say about their credibility as mining executives? They bought into the mottley/larryloo lies just like you. Their credibility regarding ecpn is nil just like the gold content of ecpn ore. If they believe the lies why would they resign? They stupidly bought shares. And they stupidly lent money. Both due to their severe gullibility and their weakness for lying larryloo lies.
panipoo, what will I see at the shareholder meeting? No one there will see any significant revenue from PM production from el cap, I can guarantee that.
Congrats panipoo, you must be celebrating, You got excited about yesterdays volume and today was more then double yesterday. YIPEE!!!
Lucky for you the insiders with knowledge and understanding (there must be at least one or two) are dumping their shares to get out before the coming sub-pennies. So I think you got a lot more high volume days to look forward to and celebrate. As long as you continue to just look at the share volume and ignore the $ volume. I expect to see an inverse relationship in the coming days. Increasing share volume combined with decreasing $ volume.
$19,000 is high volume? I guess relative to the last few days. But if people thought there was really gonna be $millions in revenue coming then there would be much much more volume at a higher price.
PS Amazon volume today was 1 million times ecpn volume today. And Amazon don't got the best ormus gold deposit in the world like ecpn has.
ol oneb reckons he "was lied to by mgmt... was lied to by officers...was lied to by board members...was lied to by certain other parties... bought every single share based on these lies... convinced many others to buy based on these lies too... cannot ever remember a time when he was not lied to."
I remind him that he was not lied to by ista but instead was well informed by ista but oneb chose the dark side and ignored ista.
Oh goody we gonna find out everything.
That means we are gonna find out whose pockets the $40 million, ecpn disappeared in the last 12 years, went into.
Were gonna find out whether handy dandy randy or charlatan davidson salted Clyde’s and others samples or if it was a tag team,
we get to find out what the numerous mining companies had to say to ecpn management after they came and evaluated el cap,
we get to see the sample results from the mining companies expert teams that evaluated el cap,
we gonna see all the correspondence between ecpn management and aurasource, logistica, gulf coast mining scammers, planet resourceless, various sundry Chinese and etc
Are you sure this will be made available at the shareholder meeting or will shareholders have to wait for the trial?
Well the 10-K is out 3 months late. In summary 74 million shares of dilution, $2.4 million disappeared and nil revenue.
Where did that $2.4 million go???
Drilling?? Nope
3rd party expert metallurgical studies?? Nope
3rd party geological studies?? Nope
Any studies for which ecpn shareholders received some information?? Nope
Any studies which enhanced the value of el cap?? Nope
So where did it go? $2.4 million is a lot of dough. I think it will be found in certain peoples pockets.
Git, getting the story out might help reduce future ecpn like scams
ecpn is now toast and doesn't need to be bashed any more since it will now implode on it's own, however I wouldn't miss the implosion for anything, it should be quite entertaining, there is a wonderful cast of characters and some marvelous plot twists are developing.
stuttering john stumblebum versus the person who was previously managment's best syncophatic fanatic, the unbelievable onebeliever. He has now turned to the dark side and is the lead anti-management crusader and is threatening to smash ecpn management to pulp with his sec cludgeon.
charlatan davidson continuing to promise PMs that do not and never will exist. What new fairy tales will he come up with to explain the latest non-production of PMs?
Lying larryloo, aspiring movie mogul, funding his aspirations with $millions from juicy contracts with ecpn funded by rampant dilution. What did he produce for these contracts you ask? Although he didn’t produce any PMs he produced the lies to support the dilution funding. How else was he gonna get paid?
looney anooney, rabidly trying to convince shareholders that lying larryloo's rubber check is good for $millions when in fact it isn't worth the paper it is written on.
Chuckiepoo, ecpn’s emeritus granddaddy, who still has the best explanation for no real PMs at el cap. “The nano-gremlins stole em”. He will prolly announce at the shareholder meeting, “I got proof! Mi huevos are covered with the dang things, have a look for yourselves!”
full of Malarkey arkie, who somehow lost his source of malarkey and went on a mission quest looking for more.
And you also have the trifecta of sanders, balding and shirk scratching their heads while muttering "gee whiz, I just don't understand what happened"
ecpn management is finally providing shareholders with some value, entertainment value
poor ol panipoo, when is he gonna realize that that juicy carrot they've dangled in front of his face is tied to a pole strapped to his back and no matter how hard he tries and how fast he runs he ain't never gonna get a bite.
panipoo moved the posts yet again, to the shareholder meeting in May. I never move my posts. My firm date for significant revenue from el cap PM production is exactly on the 5th of Never.
The market knows who is right
panipoo, there will be no significant revenue from el cap PM production by March 27, by the end of the month or by the shareholder meeting. What ya gonna do then? Give them until the end of time?
panipoo, there is no new info on the iron. It was drilled in 2005.