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I did and posted the answer. George, Jeff and the asignees are in street name. None of them show up on the NOBO. That is why Jeff told you to ask that question. He knew the answer beforehand
George and Jeff are the same and are in cahoots together. You miss that point. Jeff hired George!!!!!!!
can you explain? The criminal case is lost, but the sec case and penalties has not been ruled on yet?
what happened at spng? The perps got 100 dollar fine?
I hope they are going after Jeff and George then. Tony is a good guy and needs these maggots out of the picture. Though his mistake with getting involved with them in the first place
That would take a lot of time, but I cant see why not at least .02 IMHO, Its not a large dollar figure we have to get past with the buying. My guess there are less then 100M shares to go through, and no one knows what the sec will do if it turns out the conversion was illegal
jeff is gone. Tony is new ceo and jeff is not getting it back,though he has tried
The management team is fine. You can always call Tony. Brenda is working on everything, but the wheels of justice turn slow. Once that is tken care of they will clean up the shell and bring Earth surfaces into it. Tony is not a stock market expert, he is an expertin the production of stone and once this is cleared up this will no longer be sub penny
and JB brought Lambrow into this. Its all JB!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
He reads the board
love the name
As Bake said my guess is there are less than 100M shares left to go. Ive spoken with Tony many times and will meet with him in 2 weeks in person.
Exactly, A set up question and didnt think I would have the answers. BTW, that is from a nobo list from late December.
How come I predicted that it would all be in street name?
There are no shares held directly by Jeff Berkowitz, George Lambro, Deanna Lambro, George Kelley or Rene Galizio. Westbrook Capital holds app 117 million shares and Gibralter holds app 24 million shares. So all are in street name.
**Please note Shell companies cannot rely on rule 144. The Issuer cannot be considered a “shell” company for at least one year prior to the request.**
To remove a restriction on shares for Affiliates we require the following:
Original stock certificate. The registered shareholder must endorse the back of the certificate and have it signature medallion guaranteed by a financial institution.
144 Sellers letter filled out completely.
Brokers Representation Letter stating the shares have been or will be sold.
The stock that is being sold must be placed in a broker name.
The legend removal request must be presented by the broker to PST directly.
A legal opinion from company counsel is required or an outside legal opinion may be authorized by the company and it must reference the affiliate requirements of rule 144 being met.
A copy of the filed form 144 from the SEC.
Instructions that include a physical mailing address of where to send the new certificate back to and a contact number.
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Date shares were acquired by the shareholder
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If the shares are in street name the list would show nothing, which is why Jeff told you to have it oulled IMHO
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consider it asked
I wonder how Jeff feels for giving Lambro the shares so he could sell his easier?
It is disgusting, but you left out Jeff berkowitz, who brought george Lambro into this deal and gave him the shares he is selling, forgot that fact i guess, since Jeff "owned" the debt, how did George get his shares?
You should meet these guys and see what they will do for this amount of money
I will educate you. Look up the sec against spng or just go to the I hub board. 2 billion illegal shares. 4 in jail. Two being sentenced on the 17tj and one 5 yrs probation they used another rule instead of 144. That's why it's at the lawyers and sec. Ask curber or check his posts
How is apple doing mr ceo
Totally unture. The company is not selling shares. That you can take to the bank. The shares are being sold by Jeff berkowitz, George lambrou and some of Jeff's assignees. This is currently with legal to find out if the conversion was legal and if the removal of restrictions was legal. The company has not sold a share
If George and Jeff finish it will close over .01 IMHO
so after saying that is it still your positon that they back-dated the so called debt and sold unregistered shares illegally and in 2 years or so will have to pay it bach?it was you that started this all.just sayin
curber
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:34:45 AM
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I believe there will not be a RS on this stock because it will be halted, The holders JB and GL are shoping the remaining blocks of stock they have, coming from I believe reliable sources. Watch out is all I can say. JMHO
BigBake1 Member Level
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:38:28 AM
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I just have to ask, who was the attorney that wrote the opinion letter to remove the restricted legend from these blocks? How did they justify the debt qualified for Reg D Rule 504 exemptions and why did they allow them to have the whole thing up front? I have also heared of alleged kickbacks to the company from the sales of these shares to buy equipment. There are some really bad things rolling aorund here besides leaked PRs and bad promotions.
curber
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:40:46 AM
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Aaron D. McGeary,The McGeary Law Firm, P.C. • 817-282-5885 • 817-282-5886 fax. But it was not a 504 opinion.
BigBake1 Member Level
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:41:47 AM
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Oh really? So how did they justify removing the restricted legend if they did not register the shares?????
curber
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:43:27 AM
Re: BigBake1 post# 87500
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The exemption was not 144 or 504D, That is all to say right now. This program will stop. JMHO
curber
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:45:51 AM
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It's a round world and CCAJ has a troubled past and a sketchy future, IMHO
curber
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:48:35 AM
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CCAJ has had 325m shares traded so far this month. 204m in the float in July. There is no short here!
BigBake1 Member Level
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 8:57:15 AM
Re: curber post# 87501
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Ahh thus why you believe it will be suspended, that will depend if this generated any SARs the past few weeks, which I do belive that 120 million day clearly did.
curber
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 9:25:40 AM
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By the way, DISCLOSURE:I have not traded these shares in over a year, I hold 25m RESTRICTED shares in exchange for 3 years of work. AND I HOLD AN ASSIGNMENT THAT SEEMS TO HAVE BEEN USED, FOR SOME OF THE DEBT.
silversurfer1963 Member Level
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:08:39 AM
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like i said by now they are digesting curbers posts and know they are in for a fight and if curbers right they will be forced to buy back or face treble damages imo.....
curber
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:17:00 AM
Re: silversurfer1963 post# 87516
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I will not give advise as I am not a registered adviser, but this will get ugly. If you are making trading decisions on my posts be guarded and aware...JMHO this is not for the unsophisticated.
silversurfer1963 Member Level
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:35:12 AM
Re: curber post# 87507
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so was your debt note converted in someone elses name without your consent?
curber
Tuesday, October 23, 2012 10:54:49 AM
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Selling debt shares brought in by "the financiers".
The business needs funding, no one denies that, he is working on it now the the maggots who stole from the shareholders equity by dumping shares that may or may not have been illegally converted and may actually have been created from false debt(to be determined) may almost be done. I would love see them come on this board to defend their actions, though they will have to do that in a court of law soon enough, And as curber said, I am a past member of the board of directors, still have the same shares from 5 years ago, still restricted, so never been paid for being on board of directors. The three of us from that time that were on the board are working with Tony and Brenda to see that the right thing is done here. IMHO
l2 youve been marked
Curber, SEC is fully aware of my involvement and has my testimony and paperwork. Be smart and stay away from this board.
He is involved with jeff and George, need I say more
ca3000 i dont believe is talking about Tony. He is talking about Jeff or George
George or Jeff?
jeff and george lambro should be next
http://sec.gov/litigation/litreleases/2013/lr22586.htm
twittums, the answer is es. Im from NY dont know hwere you are from. My pm is softhds1 @ aol.com
Well put twitums. Are you from Florida by any chance? Im meeting with Tony the week of the 23rd along with another shareholder.
totally wrong. You have guys selling at any price since their cost basis is 0. Shares were converted which managemnt says was illegal because of rule 144. There were 400 M shares converted that way. Management has hired an attorney to try to straighten out the mess
true, but they only stole 400M shares, got to be close to over. or hopefully a knock on their doors. Either way the shareholders win
well said. Anyone who speaks with Tony can only agree. Now hopefully the cockroaches are done selling.