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Reply from Barclay:
Dear Mr. Crom,
We have been in contact with 141 Capital and are in the process of adding
them to our system.
Best regards,
XXXXX XXXXXX
BarclayHedge
2094 185th Street, Suite 1B
Fairfield, IA 52556 USA
tel. +1.641.472.3456
fax +1.641.472.9514
Then it was a typo...that is good news for those holding out hope here. It also says they will be reporting the track record on 141's site.
No problem. I don't have any stock in this or Spooz. The last SPZI I owned I bought at about a penny and sold for about the same. As you can guess, that was some time ago. I have, however, followed the story out of curiosity. I'll let you know if I get a response, OK?
I have emailed the real Barclay Hedge and asked them if 141 has arranged to send them track record data. I'll post any response.
jc
That is not the site referred to on 141's web site.
You are sure it's a typo? LOL The 141 site plainly spells out
BarclaysHedge.com That entity does exist. I was on it briefly and haven't gotten back on since. It is about as impressive a financial web site as 141's. Something is fishy in Denmark, IMO
That is not the site 141 Capital used on it's web site. It is BarclaysHedge.com
http://www.barclayshedge.com/
I have tried unsuccessfully to open "barclayshedge.com" The ISP has been blocked for one day due to over usage. I did a domain search :
WHOIS Lookup
Find contact and registration information on existing domains
WHOIS Search Results for: barclayshedge.com
Domain ID:
Domain Name: barclayshedge.com
Created On: 25-Jan-2008 00:00:00
Expiration Date: 25-Jan-2009 00:00:00
Sponsoring Registrar: 'Check Whois' (GEE WHIZ DOMAINS, INC) (GEE WHIZ DOMAINS, INC)
Status: ok
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141 does not say they are tracked on barclayhedge.com , it says BarclaysHedge.com. There is a big difference.
I wonder if KaiTrade grew weary of inquiries about their "product" that they were not able to sell, so they have simply removed the "products" link from their website? That way they won't be troubled by pesky calls or emails about their alleged "product".
Why don't one of the shareholders here sell 450,000 shares and buy a copy of that report from Barclays.? Or just in case, sell an even half a million shares in case they charge postage.
Why can't 141 post their results on their own website? Why the run around? They refer you to a site that will SELL you a report? Give me a break. This just looks worse and worse as time goes by.
Back in 2005 when Paul rolled out this lemonade stand, I recall him saying this was seven years in the making. So now we are at 10+ years in the development of Spooz. He has sold one h@ll of a lot of stock in the lemonade stand but to date, not a single cup of lemonade. Kind of makes you wonder....
One of two things...either they are getting ready to sell the product on the website or are removing any indication that they intend to sell it on the web site. Your guess is as good as mine.
Is it my imagination, or has something changed on the KaiTrade web site?
The #'s I am showing are pure speculation but are just as reliable as all of the bashers continuing to tell us how the story is over for SPZI. I don't know, but the last time I looked SPZI is still alive. Yes, she is severely wounded and things look pretty bad. But none the less, she is still kicking after all that has happened.
Yes, Spooz is still "alive" inasmuch as it has a CUSIP number. I have been trying to find some place where a person could buy SpoozTools. I still can't find it. If after all these years they can not come up with a place to sell a product, the only conclusion I have is that there is no product. The KaiTrade site lists SpoozTools as it's only product, yet I can't find a way to buy it from them. I can find a place on their site that says they are grubbing for money from someone, anyone. What the h@ll is going on here? I have followed this company from the very first. I can not for the life of me understand why after five years and numerous pump-a-dumps they can not offer a product. Where has all the money gone they have raised with equity sales? Open a website, set up a PayPal account and sell the friggin' software. If there is any product, what would be so hard? Why all this nonsense? I'll tell you why. SpoozTools is not the revolutionary product it was touted to be. If so, they would have had no trouble getting a backer and taking this thing to the hoop instead of having one pitiful link as a "product" on some obscure cheesy website that doesn't even sell the product, but sure does have a blurb begging for money. How on earth, given the current state of things, can you offer such projections? Show us one functioning version of SpoozTools somewhere and a way to buy it and then we can talk about projections...LOL
Here's a good one:
Spooz Projects Large Revenues and Earnings
- 3/20/2007
CHICAGO--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Spooz, Inc. (OTC:SPZI) announced that its financial projections demonstrate the company will enjoy sizeable leaps in revenues and earnings over the next three years. According to its most recent economic forecast, Spooz expects its total income in 2007 to be $3,271,253, increasing to $29,474,886 in 2008 and spiraling to $102,328,865 for calendar 2009. Projected revenues are derived from three primary sources: SpoozToolz subscriptions for the Basic product and its attending modules, templates and trading systems; repackaged market data feed products; and proprietary trading. The projections have been published in a revised business plan that includes in-depth background information on the company, its structure and management team, descriptions of its products and services, operational plans for its profit centers, as well as management's certified financial statements.
“I believe our projections to be a robust estimate of where Spooz is headed from an earnings perspective,” declares Spooz CEO Paul Strickland. “In the upcoming year, we will begin offering a succession of extraordinary products and services that will undoubtedly trigger a substantial increase in our subscriber base. We will be offering, as part of our SpoozToolz suite, innovative add-ons such as the Instant Edgar XBRL module, as well as other modules that will provide wireless trading and system monitoring on any intelligent hand-held device (available in early 2008). I fully expect Spooz to achieve profitability this year and will provide our shareholders with remarkable financial gains over the next three years.”
On the upside, certs can't be shorted (but no guarantee against naked shorting). On the down side, you can't sell your certs. You have to turn them in to be converted to trading shares. It takes time. You will miss any run.
jc
All press releases should be read in their entirety, IMO. This on ends thus:
"Forward Looking Statements
This press release contains statements that may constitute "forward-looking statements." These statements present management's expectations, beliefs, plans and objectives regarding future financial performance and assumptions or judgments concerning such performance. There are a number of factors that could cause actual results or outcomes to differ materially from those addressed in the forward-looking statements."
There are no filings, no SIC number. So there is no way to see who has gotten shares for what.The share price over the span of all this dilution is about all the evidence there is to speculate on. Now, I contend that any logical person would conclude that a generic statement about pinks would belong on a board about a specific pink, especially when share performance fits the generic picture.If people can read a news release about an office followed by a long disclaimer and offer it as evidence of income with no verifiable SECOND or THIRD party verification, why can another person not offer generic observations about pinks? You should expect a credible response from those posters as well, don't you think? Why do speculative statements springing from an address belong on a board, while generic statements about pinks in general do not? Come on...for all we know KaiTrade may have a cubicle in a shared office space. Without filings, without verifiable statements, there is just no possible way to know anything about what is going on under these three walnut shells.
In summary, if Spooz will act responsibly and disclose to shareholders who has gotten shares and why, then it will be possible to give you the credible response you want. If Spooz does not act credibly about what is going on, how can we?
Why not? You're only talking about $50-100K depending on whether price is .0001 or .0002 500,000,000 shares @ .0001 is worth a whopping $50K.
Here is another dead giveaway. If a pinky or BB pump rag gets shares as compensation for "profiling" a company and they are selling all the while pumping, er, I mean "profiling"..what does that tell you? If they believed there was one ounce of truth in the BS they were cranking out, they would not dump their shares, don't you think? I mean, if you had 20 million shares of stock in a company that is going to revolutionize the world as we know it and you were the one breaking the news to us, don't you suppose you just might want to hold on to some of that? Also remember that they did not buy the stock, it was simply delivered to them for pumping the company. Therefore ANY price they get is pure profit, right down to .0001 And when those shares show up on the day's activity, they always paint as buys. (Sells will be relatively small by comparison. This is not evidence of someone "loading up", it is evidence of more shares entering the public market for the first time.) You, however, are not in the same boat. You had to pay for your stock and so need to sell for more than you paid.
Welcome to the land of the Stinky Pinkies!
Didn't Spooz float other announcements in the past using names like "TDAmeritrade" and "TT ( Trading Technologies)"? Do any of these announcements claim a deal has been struck, or simply that they are in "discussion"?
It's not unlike another misconception you see on the boards all the time. That is the premise that unless one owns stock in a company, they can't possibly have anything to say worth hearing. Actually the opposite is true. Those who have a vested interest in a stock are far more likely to paint a biased picture. That is why the SEC requires disclosure from stock promo outfits so you can know if they are compensated with shares for pumping a company. It's also why public officials are not supposed to own stock in a company that they might influence with their office. The very best stock picking sites do not own shares in stocks they recommend. That is why they are not free. If they are consistently wrong, they lose accounts. One such outfit I like is StocksAtBottom.com
BINGO! Trader. Real DD has little, if anything, to do with contacting the company. If someone on this board or on XXIS board could produce one verifiable shred of evidence that anyone is paying to use anything that incorporates a Spooz product, that would be real DD. If it ain't second or third party verification, it ain't DD...PERIOD. In all the years I've done this, I have never had anyone from a company tell me the real picture. It's always painted in the best possible forward looking light. And when the wheels come off the track they all have done what Spooz has done...clam up and say nothing.
JC
I guess now it's the CROOK running this scam company. I think HG is now a one man side show.
Any selling at all will see this thing back on the floor. The company has no value.
I can't agree with you...
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They were talking about SWPC, formerly HYRF. They were involved with EYII at one time with water filtering pitchers (Code Blue)
EYII is still EYII
It's still on the boards...symbol changed to SLRW.
Tex, you know better that anyone , the hours I put into researching the PLUS system by conversing with plant operators and engineers from coast to coast. Hell, I even spoke with an installation that no one was aware of because HYRF had agreed not to publicize who they were. ConAgra was involved.That, BTW, could have lead to very green pastures for HYRF in the food processing industry. I found it by chance going through public records in the NorthWest. This COULD have been a multimillion dollar company. The PLUS system is everything it was advertised to be. Why Mast and Moore ,et al,decided to deceive the public and go the rout they have defies logic. You know of my back round in fluid systems on subs, as well as developing land. I am not the least bit hesitant to say that I would have gone to work on the road selling the PLUS system on commission. If honest people were behind it now, I would still consider it. But , as you recall, the common denominator in all my research was the consternation experienced by customers regarding the absolute lack of support after the sale. It was non existent. A city in S.C. put in a system without decent working drawings because they grew tired of waiting for HYRF to provide them. And yet the system manager still spoke highly to me of the product. It is just the biggest case of "what might have been" I have ever seen in microcaps.
Yes, when Hill came on the scene the wheels fell off quickly when he refused to rubber stamp bogus claims and reports. Being, apparently, a man of some integrity, he wrote that scathing letter to the SEC detailing his reasons for getting out.
Bottom line, the PLUS system gets an A+, management gets the finger.
jc
I am well, thanks. How have you been? CortDev, wow, that was some time ago. Was that one of the all time scams, or what? LOL..
I hope you are well!
jc
I don't think it accurate to characterize Spooz as having been screwed by everyone. I believe it is the other way around. After all, Spooz was started by people who are professionals in the markets, or so we are told. No way will I believe Spooz management are poor dupes here. They had to know what has gone on and what they have agreed to every step of the way. In latter stages they may have been helpless to change the course of things, but victims they are not, IMO. If they didn't understand the way this kind of shady toxic financing works, then shame on them.
What bills?
CD, I find the excuse of a toxic financier gone bad to be particularly odious in this case. Spooz is founded and conducted by people in the business who know better. No way do these people not understand who they were getting in bed with with the Kauderer group. If Spooz personnel are in the thick of the commodities/securities/etc. business and they don't know what a toxic financier is all about, then they need to choose another career path. If they went to Kauderer to move worthless paper, they knew exactly what they were doing. It would be akin to a restaurant owner serving seafood he bought off an unmarked old rusty pickup truck and then blaming the guy he bought the stuff from when his customers get sick.
All just my $0.02 worth...
(OT) Hey, like I say, all I have is my opinion here. I could be way wrong and it wouldn't be the first time. I have no reason to want anyone to lose here. I'm just a working stiff like the rest of us. I just don't see anything very encouraging and that's just my honest opinion.
We have had a lot of snow already here. In fact I just got home from band practice and the roads were a little slick. We had a great '08 season. Southern champions as well as 2nd place in Ontario at the N. American championships. We were 1st in piping, but 6th in drumming for an overall second.
All the best...
jc
Well, I am so fed up with these penny scams, I honestly hope you guys at least get out of this OK. I will be completely flabbergasted if this company ever turns a dime...but good luck to you.
jc
How have you been? The last time I owned here was close to a penny. You could say I averaged out...LOL. My thoughts? The past is prologue. If there were anything to Spooz of merit, there would be interest in it outside of a few chat boards. That about sums up my thoughts!
hey...take care!
jc
...hope you like giblet gravy...
Yes, they are 3 years old and hardly worth looking at. I did not believe at the time HG promised audited financials that we would ever see them. I am certain we never will. It's all moot anyhow since they make no money.