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end2war: I was a little surprised at your last post, I generally enjoy reading your posts!
I know many people have given up on this stock, and I can't blame them!
But I have been in this stock for at least 5 years, and I never give up as long as I hold a stock!
I always have hope that it will come back!
As soon as I lose hope, I sell the stock!
I do sometimes get ticked off at the CEO, but I generally don't waste my time, running him down on every post!
This board has been running down FH for as long as I have held this stock!
Can anyone tell me: "Yes running down FH, has certainly made this stock go up"!
Note here is something from Cetek website:
Cetek Technologies, Inc., founded in 1989 by Fayiz Hilal, is focused on the development and manufacturing of ceramics and associated materials. The Cetek Process allows us to produce and distribute quality ceramic materials at a lower unit production cost. While the world of technology is constantly changing, we have watched the demand for our products grow exponentially.
"Since the company's inception, I have dedicated myself to making sure Cetek gains a solid foundation in as many potentially profitable industries as possible. This is only the beginning of another great year." - Fayiz Hilal CEO 1/3/08
The company's mission is to manufacture and market ceramic materials and substrates for general use as well as specific applications which utilize ceramics such as flat screens and fuel cells. We produce high-grade industrial ceramics including but not limited to Alumina, Cordierite, Mullite, Zirconia, and Steatite. The final product is a ceramic, which can stand the test of time, thermal shock, and corrosion, while providing electrical isolation without significant wear.
Our focus of quality & on time delivery with first class service and satisfaction has not changed for over 30 years. Please call 845 452 3510 for all inquiries.
Cheers! pick_the_one
PennyWorld: I don't think Fayiz Hilal is a Madoff type of guy!
Madoff did wrong to widows, Retires, Charities etc, also the shock in the investment communities! I have not heard him admit yet that he was wrong! That's a heavy burden to carry near the end of your life!
I agree we didn't do well with FH in this stock!
However from what you told me about him in your recent discussion, I can sense a change in him! You yourself noticed that change!
Remember when FH looks into a mirror, he should see some of the past errors he has made! He should want to correct those errors!
By your and DrLarzo discussion with FH "We made a lot of ground"!
pick_the_one
PennyWorld: Here are the exact words from Fayiz Hilal from a previous post of yours, where you talked to FH!
He (Fayiz Hilal) cannot recommend a buy or sell, however he is looking forward to a new turn of events that may be around the corner and as we progress into the new year. He was not at liberty to elaborate.
I thought I'd post this again for others!
pick_the_one
PennyWorld: I agree the history of Cetek is one where a lot of good things did not happen!
But you yourself admitted that there seems to be a change in Fayiz Hilal!
He said to you that something may be happening by the end of the year!
That is not too long from now! If nothing happens then we can be rightly concerned! And then it's back to the same old business!
I'd rather hear him say; "Something new is coming soon!"
Instead of; "We have nothing new on the horizon!"
As I said, It's only a couple of months away, Even with his record, let's try and trust him , just for a short time!
pick_the_one
Orangeman3: I don't plan on calling anyone at this time! See my message 15451.
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To ALL! We might want to remember the discussion Penny had with Fayiz Hilal where he said:
"He is looking forward to a new turn of events that may be around the corner and as we progress into the new year. He was not at liberty to elaborate."
We are having discussions with FH at the present time ! I know there are a lot key issues that need to be addressed by FH! But at least for now or until we see what the "The New Turn of Events" actually are!
Then we can resume our discussions with FH on the key issues burning on our minds!
pick_the_one
Two people from this board have talked to Fayiz Hilal, recently! I have sent him several emails! He has been cordial to both board members! Accordind to him and his answer to Penny is that he expects to do something soon??
The question is will he get listed in Nevada?
Will he tell us what te actual O/S is?
And at least tell us what some of the Revenues are for each company?
No one was able to get any info in the past - The question is , has he softened enough yet??
pick_the_one
geoly31: At least we know they have 6 people working there!
My wife had worked in a building that size and said they had a hundred people!
Cetek probablly, only uses part of the building, for their work!
pick_the_one
Looking at the Hybrid-Tek Building (Cetek Website), it appears that probably 75 to 100 people there! They also have 6 contact people listed below! - pick_the_one
Hybrid-Tek Inc. 19 Commerce St.
Clarksburg NJ 08510
A wholly–owned Subsidiary of Cetek Technologies, Inc
• CAD Layout • Surface Mount Assembly
• Circuit Design • Wire Bonding
• Thick Film Processing • Sealing
• Custom Metallizing • Electrical Testing
• Ceramic Packages • MIL/Commercial Specs
For Matters Pertaining To: Please contact...
Getting Started - Having Work Performed: Barbara Catalano
Our Overall Capabilities: Brian Hammond
Engineering / Support: Brian Hammond
Applications: Brian Hammond
"Advanced & Standard" Processes: Victor Shevtchuk
Hybrid Assembly and Services: John Layton
Product Testing & Inspection: Dave Bannister
Quotation Requests: Dana Ciardullo
Thanks irony; eventually this will payoff!
My best memories about stocks are the ones that I waited longest for; to shoot up into the BIG Money!
Our day will come!
pick_the_one
Dragynn & PennyWorld: There is no doubt we have broken new ground with FH, starting with DrLarzo's & Penny's discussion with FH!
I believe all of us have to speak softly to FH, but carry a big stick!
I have never been a CEO of a company, so I feel I cannot rightly judge all his actions!
If we are ever to get anywhere with Fayiz Hilal, we have to hold back calmly and be civil with him!
I believe if we continue in this manner, we can right this Cetek Oceanliner and get it headed in the right direction!
pick_the_one
lucky777: There is nothing like forward or upward action from a stock!
A while back someone said since I am pick_the_one,
I am in the wrong one!
I agreed with him then, but right now I feel I may be in the right one!
If we can get FH to level with us it will be half the battle!
pick_the_one
Email to Fayiz Hilal , CEO Cetek - from pick_the_one on ihub Board
First of all I want to thank you for talking to PennyWorld the other day, it was certainly cordial and helpful to members of the ihub board!
Also about a week ago you talked to DrLarzo, where he asked you about 5 or 6 questions about the company, which I felt you answered well!
We certainly want to keep the communications lines open between us!
Many of us are impressed with the way ceramics are growing , and we feel it is a good field to be in! Also we are impressed that our company is listed with the top companies in the: Advanced Ceramics – Global Strategic Business Report!
I have been in Cetek since 2005, I have never called you, however sitting at a loss for so long. You would think I would have sold and taken my loss, but I felt somehow this stock would come back!
I am not a major holder, but I recently purchased more shares, in the hopes that this company is in a turnaround!
Sincerely Yours
pick_the_one
Dragynn: I checked out Yahoo board 10/7/09 (Visited Cetek by kj6vx). There were some questions concerning Cetek!
I posted there to check out ihub since we had a new moderator!
He then posted one of our posts DrLarzo ihub #14866
I thought we could spread the word!
Unfortunately yahoo boards in general are not as good as they used to be.
I don't like their format at all!
pick_the_one
Sounds Good; Keep Adding - No subtraction allowed!
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PennyWorld: I have a high respect for what you did!
And your explanatiion of the "One to One" with Fayiz Hilal and the fact that he was impressed with you, since you were in the stock that long!
You kept saying We need FH to give a good PR - Possibly we may get one some day!
Again Thanks!
pick_the_one
PennyWorld: Nice going contacting Fayiz Hilal!
You did yourself & the board a great favor, I know you own a lot more shares than I do!
I hope what you told us was for real! (not that I'm a bit suspicious)
pick_the_one
Orangeman3: My guess is that probably 50% of the CEO's on the pink sheets fit your description below, and the other 50% are able to hide the fact!
"That the CEO of CTKH is a CROOK and a Liar and is one of the better Con Men out there."
But don't worry we have a good SEC in place!
The only thing they were a little slow in catching Madoff and others like him (Sunday 60 min, another Ponzi scheme, but it was for only 400 million)
pick_the_one
Perhaps someone can clue me in?
All day CTKH traded at .0001
7,900,000 shares traded until 3:58 at .0001
At 3:58 100,000 shares traded at .0002 ?
Total shares traded 8,000,000 shares!
Not that it is that important - but it looks kind of weird!
pick_the_one
Dragynn: It's too bad that you can't be the liason with Fayiz Hilal!
I really don't know if anyone on this board could be a liason with FH!
And, I'm not sure FH wants a liason?
In reality if Fayiz Hilal really wants this company to grow; he doesn't need a liason! He can do it all on his own; by simply passing information to us!
As I said in a previous post; Fayiz Hilal is like the Wizard of OZ, hiding behind that curtain!
It is really up to Fayiz Hilal, if he wants to come from behind and start communicating with us!
pick_the_one
"Being a moderator on I-hub does not ask, nor imply, that said moderator should be considered some sort of liaison between shareholders"
geoly31: I agree it would be nice for Dragynn to be a contact for Cetek! But we need backing by this ihub board!
Backing is something he does not have yet! There are people on this board still taking pot shots at him!
pick_the_one
geoly31: I don't believe I ever said I was tired about of talking about old things!
I said, "I am tired about listening about old things"
If Cetek is going to move forward it will have to be about what is happening now!
I know a lot of people on this board hate FH for what he has done in the past; and I'm sure they have every right too!
I don't give Cetek much of a chance of moving forward; "but the constant reminder of the past", will defitinely assure that we will "Never Move Forward"!
pick_the_one
Dradynn: I have said it more than once; if one of my stocks go down to .0001, I usually get out in December of that year and take my loss.
One of my stocks went to .0001 and about two days later the CEO was arrested for fraud! I sold immediately; knowing that stock couldn't possibly come back!
I have two stocks that I should have sold years ago, because of poor price performance, Cetek and Clancy.
Cetek is a basically a .0001 stock that never gives financials (except backghanded once in a while)
Clancy gives financials every quarter for as long as I can remember! The Financials are not super, but they are golden compared to Cetek!
But Cetek does not move and neither does Clancy!
Then why do I hang on to these stocks? I only take losses when I am positive that a stock will not come back!
Clancy I believe will come back, because the company has a buyback program!
The chances of Cetek coming back are not as good but the reason I'm holding on is that they are in Ceramics. I was impressed that Cetek is listed in a $3500 report with some really credible Ceramics companies!
I may be wrong but Fayiz Hilal seems to be opening up a bit!
But he reminds me of the Wizard of OZ!
PAY NO ATTENTION TO THAT MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN!
pick_the_one
Orangeman3: I didn't post something 9 years old!
I posted something that was posted on Yahoo this morning at 9:04 and still is posted there!
And I stil have no answer why it was posted this morning!
And I'm convinced I'll find nothing from you of why it was posted!
So lets end our discussion!
pick_the_one
Orangeman3: Nice post but:
Who posted the 2000 financials on Yahoo this morning!
Is this a prank or what?
Sounds kind of stupid to me!
And why did they post the 2000 financials on Yahoo? Is this a preliminary for future financials?????
Please let us talk about what is happening is happening NOW!!
I get tired of the same old whining about the old days!
pick_the_one
Now it shows this on Yahoo??
"There is no data available for CTKH.PK"
Someone playing games??
pick_the_one
From Yahoo Finance - Pick_the_one
Income Statement Get Income Statement for:
View: Annual Data | Quarterly Data All numbers in thousands
PERIOD ENDING 30-Jun-00 31-Mar-00
Total Revenue 108 71
Cost of Revenue 93 129
Gross Profit 16 (58)
Operating Expenses
Research Development 221 42
Selling General and Administrative 23 57
Non Recurring - -
Others - -
Total Operating Expenses - -
Operating Income or Loss (229) (156)
Income from Continuing Operations
Total Other Income/Expenses Net 5 3
Earnings Before Interest And Taxes (223) (153)
Interest Expense 42 38
Income Before Tax (266) (192)
Income Tax Expense - -
Minority Interest - -
Net Income From Continuing Ops (266) (192)
Non-recurring Events
Discontinued Operations - -
Extraordinary Items - -
Effect Of Accounting Changes - -
Other Items - -
Net Income (266) (192)
Preferred Stock And Other Adjustments - -
Net Income Applicable To Common Shares ($266) ($192
Something is going on, I found this on Yahoo Finance!
Sat 9:04am CTKH.PK
CETEK TECHNOLOGIES INC FinancialsEDGAR Online Financials
So far I haven't been able to open it!
pick_the_one
lucky777: I agree the end2war post should be sent to Fayiz Hilal!
pick_the_one
Dragynn, just sent the previous message by email on Cetek website! message #15332
pick_the_one
Dear Fayiz Hilal:
I am from the ihub board. I sent you an email on your website regarding your comment to Drlarzo (also on ihub), regarding your comment to him that our Cetek stock is undervalued!
Please respond to my email, or you can put out a press release on the Cetek website!
We have a new moderator on the Cetek ihub board, he is Dragynn!
He approved of my email to you and I suggest (very strongly) that you read his message # 15330 by Dragynn!
I expect to hear from you soon either by email to me or by a press release on your website!
pick_the_one
Dragynn: I emailed my previous message to Cetek!
I also gave them my email address!
I don't expect a reply!
However I will post it if I get one!
pick_the_one
Yesterday, RamSpace said we need about a 25 million share day every day, if we are to break throught to .0003!
We don't appear to be anywhere near that!
FH has been so Lax in giving out information, it doesn't appear he is going to change!
Without some inititive from him, those naked shorts arn't going to budge!
Hey Fayiz Hilal you claim the stock is undervalued; Then Please do something about!
pick_the_one
Dragynn: Really a great ibox, every time I see it I'm impressed!
pick_the_one
'Orangeman3 Don't see it there am I blind?
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geoly31: "You do realize he is very old "
Then it seems to me he will put in a successor within a year or two? Or perhaps he will sell the company?
pick_the_one
Orangeman3: If we are to believe that Ceramics is growing at 7% a year! Then if Cetek capitalizes on this it means they have just about doubled their business in 10 years!
Who is to say they will never issue audited financials!
Who is to say FH will never move to another exchange!
There are a lot of If's here I know!
But Time will tell!
pick_the_one
ironyman: You are right no one Cares!
pick_the_one
Orangeman3: I disagree with you!
FH needs to put out audited financials and
Put out a press release to all shareholders; that the company is in good shape and on the move!
Then you will see the shorts scrambling!
And I don't think it matters if they are the regular shorts or negative shorts!
Shorts need a lot of pressure to move them out!
This is my belief: And If the above does not happen By FH!
Then I am almost certain this will be a .0001 to .0002 stock for a long long time, regardless that a few shorts are scrambling!
pick_the_one
Just some of my thoughts!
I'm not sure, but is Fayiz: A phd, or engineer, or physicists?
Personally I think he is one of those. I have worked with that type of person.
Usually that type of person is great with new technology (Ceramics)
But without a cooresponding MBA - They are not great communicators with the average person (Investor)!
IF Fayiz would step aside and have a CEO with communicating skills; Then things would change at Cetek:
1. But They must become a fully reporting company with audited financials!
2. And Their goal should be to eventually get on to Nasdaq!
I know I should quit dreaming!
pick_the_one