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Dunkj,
Maybe this is an answer to your patent question:
"We engineer and manufacture products to precise dimensional specifications."
(source: www.cetek-technologies.com)
Cetek receives orders from customers with "precise" specifications. In this case patents are no issue for CTKH. Though it might be an issue for the customers that give the production orders.
OT: I have an idea for your low-tech invention. Start the production yourself and write a "C", copyright notification on the label. If the sales of your product are good, you must ask a professional for advise. Does the copyright give you enough protection for the time being? ..or should you try to obtain a patent for your invention?
Of course, if the sales are bad....just stop.
If you follow my advise, you can start earning money very fast. Or, if there is no market for your idea, you can stop or adjust your plans.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
also 24/7
Orangeman,
You said: " I Hub has a message board for companys that dilute time after time and do R/S l expect to see CTKH on there."
Let me tell you something. YOU DON'T EXPECT THAT otherwise you would have SOLD your 4.5 mln. 2 or 3 years ago at $ 0,0065
BTW in your postings on RB, you are predicting a R/S for three years now. SWALLOW THIS FACT: IT DIDN'T HAPPEN.
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BTW I don't say that a RS will never happen. It might. But I do say that YOU don't expect that. Why HOLD your shares than?
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Put you money were your mouth is. SELL your 4.5 mln. shares and don't come back. There are 1000's of other oppurtunities out there, waiting for you.
But you will probably HOLD your position and keep whining and calling FH a liar and a thief and an Egyptian Weasel. And for the next three years you will keep warning everybody for a RS, while YOU hold your shares. LOL
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Orange,
If you are convinced that Fayiz is a liar than you should SELL your CTKH-shares IMO.
Why are you holding 4.5 million shares in this company if you think that the CEO a liar?
What's your logic?
Goodbye,
C7M
Bigcue,
The blueprint you are describing is not legal -here in Europe-, but I don't know what the rules are in your country or the state of NY.
Therefore what you are describing is possible but very unlikely IMO. CTKH already proved a couple of times that its business is profitable. How can revenues go up with 100% or more, when you put (too) much margin on the products, like you describe with 2 companies? That sounds unlogical to me.
I can even think of another scenario (I don't think that this is the case!): The scenario that Cetek Inc. is buying materials and than "selling" these materials with a discount to CTKH. In this scenario Cetek Inc. will go bankrupt (at a certain time) leaving the suppliers with a huge loss, and CTKH high and dry. But again: That is NOT legal in my country. (but in the USA?)
To be honest, I think that the BOD keeps the business model simple. And CTKH is -as King George says- focussed on growth.
Good luck,
C7M
Orange,
To be honest with you, I think that CTKH is a good investment.
The current pps is low. But maybe not low enough. Without a PR the pps might go south, as some shareholders leave. If CTKH release a regular PR, the pps will not move significant. Just like with the last quarter reports. It doesn't seem to matter how upbeat a pressrelease is with CTKH. The shareholders and new investors NEED audited or unaudited numbers.
Thats why the current situation is not ideal. But things change. And sometimes within in a few days. Thats my experience. And I can wait for that.
What I dont understand: You have 4.5 mln. shares in CTKH but you believe that the CEO is a liar and a thief. (these are your words, not mine)
When did you buy your shares? What was your reason for buying?
And for what price will you sell your CTKH shares?
Thanks on forehand,
C7M
Okay Orange,
Thanks for your honest reply.
Are you a CTKH shareholder? Just curious.
C7M
Orange,
How are you making your money? You are not an investor or a trader. And you are wasting valuable time on this board.
I am just curious how you make a living?
Its true that you were afraid of a Reverse Split in 2003 for CTKH. But now you have to admit that you made a mistake. There was NO RS and the pps went from 0,0001 to 0,0065 in 3 months. And unfortunately for you, you missed that spike completely.
Bad luck!
Goodbye,
C7M
Orange,
I hope you learned your lessons. You are probably just a beginner in trading.
Its a simple rule. Buy low and sell high. Remember that, because that is very important if you want to make money. LOL
When is the pps low? When people are negative about a company, like with CTKH on 27 october 2003. You should have bought CTKH-shares on 27 october 2003, but you were to pre-occupied with bashing the company even more, when the pps was $ 0,0001 (all time low)
I wonder how smart you are? Because, what did you expect? Did you expect the pps to go even lower? Or WHAT???
Than of course, the pps started climbing, but you still didn't buy shares in the UP-run. So, effectively you missed a 65-bagger in just three months time. THAT must be frustrating? Or not?
01/29/2004 $ 0.0065
I think that you hoped that nobody would find out about your trading mistakes. You were hoping that nobody would find out that you are a lousy trader. Nobody will listen to you. Right?
Remember: Buy low, sell high. And you might actually earn some money.
You could have made $ 65.000,- for every $ 1000,- investment in just 3 months time. But instead you wasted your time on these boards. Thats the funniest part.
Oh yeah: Stop counting cars on the parking lot. Or at least: Stop mentioning it.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Pennyworld,
I also agree with Rickapple1 remark: "Previously, "Orangeman3" has gone on record - in a public forum - making such debasing claims as: "Fayiz is the Egyptian Weasel".
I consider such remarks racist.
I am sure you will take the proper measures to put "Orangeman3" in his proper place.
Goodbye,
Ceteksevenmillion
You Weasel,
Go count the cars on the parking lot!
Hahaha
Greets,
Ceteksevenmillion
Orange,
Are you still counting the cars on CTKH's parking lot?
Keep up the good work.
http://galleryoftheabsurd.typepad.com/14/images/tomjeff_2.jpg
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Pennyworld,
I liked your postings but I didn't listen to your recommendation. So I pulled certs for 7 million CTKH-shares. All of them. I put the class A common stock certificate in a picture-frame.
"Transferable only on the books of the Corporation by the holder hereof in person or by attorney upon surrender of this Certificate properly endorsed."
I don't want to risk selling shares to early. And its my experience NEVER to sell ALL of my shares. Thats why I told on this board that I will probably keep CTKH shares for ever.
I started with 500.000 shares. Than my name became Cetektwomillion. After that Cetekfivemillion. I averaged down. So I might as well "profit UP" almost the same way, and I have the patience. But I will keep most of the shares for the long haul.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Rickapple,
I don't know the answer to your question. But I pulled my certs. In the normal time-frame of 6 weeks they were delivered. No problem at all.
So I listened to the advise of Fayiz Hilal. And I didn't listen to the bashers on this board. HA HA!! These guys missed a ten-bagger on CTKH and are frustrated. Look at Orange for example. He made almost 2000 bashing posts on RB. Great way to spend to your time. And than missing the $ 0,0001 oppurtunity in october 2003. HA HA HA, what a joke!
Buying and holding shares is always a gamble IMO. Of course buying Pink Sheet shares is even a bigger gamble. We will just have to see if CTKH pays off one day. It's a gamble. And without PR's it becomes even a bigger gamble IMO.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Orange,
I did put you on ignore. Thats TRUE. But after a few months (or a year, or whatever) I decided to undo that. Thats ALSO TRUE.
I think that you have big troubles with handling the facts but both statements are TRUE. Dig it?
Why don't you stop calling people liars. Your own credibility is declining rapidly IMO.
Lets talk about CTKH again.
Ceteksevenmillion.
Orange,
BTW why didn't you buy CTKH shares when it was at
$ 0,0001 ?
You were aware of this all time low, here is the proof:
By: queens_14
03 Oct 2003, 02:44 PM EDT
Listen homeboyca Are you one complete idiot or just a real ###### dope. I said it will be common not all the time plus there have been just a few trades at .0001 Just beat it fruitcake!! You have never been even close to being right here!!!
You could have made a 10 bagger. Who is the fruitcake NOW ?
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Orange, Look:
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On 04 Dec 2003, 10:28 AM EST sixtieskid posts:
WHO SAID UP? .0009 is LESS THAN .001!
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You see Orange?
SOMEONE SAID UP !!! Yes, from $ 0,0001 to 0,0009 is considerably UP . In approximately 4 weeks!!! And Sixtieskid missed the oppurtunity, thats why he reacts so frustrated. Same like you I guess.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Orange,
Read it again: "Nice work Queens. Too bad i didn't listen to you and Groyn earlier or I would have fared better."
(Groyn = Miami according to Orange)
I conclude that he sold on 27 october 2003. And of course you were right at that specific moment. CTKH-shares were down to $ 0,0001 and the guy was frustrated.
But you didn't see the oppurtunity. And now YOU are frustrated.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Orange,
I know you liked it better when I ignored you. I took you off ignore a while ago. And to be honest I read most of your postings with one eye. BTW You always repeat yourself.
Its a shame that CTKH doesn't give a PR.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Brg88Tx,
You are right. But don't forget that Orange brought up this subject by himself. This was not my idea.
He wanted to say: "Hey people LISTEN TO ME. I gave sixtieskid a good advise and he told me that he should have listened to me -THE GREAT ORANGE- sooner."
But sixtieskid made that post on 27 october 2003. On that day Cetek's pps was at its record LOW. No wonder the guy was frustrated. Read his posting again if you like to.
Now we all now that CTKH was a serious bargain at $ 0,0001. You are right about that.
But don't forget that ORANGE and MIAMI gave the advise to Sixtieskid and the other guy. They sold on HIS advise!
By the way, personally, I didn't have CTKH-shares at 27 oct. 2003. I didn't know the company back than.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
"In Oct 2003 he admitted he should have listened to us sooner" ....AND THAN HE SOLD AT THE ALL TIME LOW.
But Orange doesn't feel responsible at all.
Again: YOU missed a 100% ten-bagger with CTKH and than you proudly post it here on I-hub. But you made a mistake. You forgot to check the charts before you re-posted that sixtieskid-story. He sold on your advise, thats why he said that he should have listened to you sooner. But now you come with the remark that you didn't tell him to sell??? COME ON!!!
Thats what I call hypocritical !
And why don't you tell Hilal thats he is (your words) "a liar a thief a con man and a weasel" to his face? You don't have the courage to do that but much more important: you don't have the arguments.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
What are you guys talking about?
Orange, Your credibility is gone.
People sold their shares on your and Miami's advise on THE ALL TIME LOW on 27 oct. 2003.
I am glad you are not my advisor.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Orange,
The posting from Sixtieskid clearly states that you and Miami advised him and Brutis to SELL.
He and Brutis listened to you and Miami and they sold there shares at THE ALL TIME LOW on 10-27-2003: $ 0,0001
Don't try to change te subject Orange. YOU came up with the Sixtieskid-posting yourself.
They listened to you and Miami and therefore they MISSED a TEN-bagger.
YOU MISSED THAT 10 BAGGER TOO !!! Thats the funniest part!!!!
Again: the charts don't lie.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Orange, The story gets worst for you:
He posted on 27 october 2003, He listened to your advice and SOLD !!!!
This was CTKH pps at THAT moment: 10/27/2003 $ 0.0001 (source: Nasdaq CTKH charts 3 years)
Todays pps is $ 0,0010 So sixtieskid and the other guy could have made a 10-bagger if he bought CTKH shares on 27 october 2003 instead of listening to your (and MIAMI'S of course) selling advice.
You are bringing up the proof yourself ORANGE. You are the BEST investor I have ever seen on this board!!!! hahhahaaaaaaaaaaaa
MISSING OUT ON A 10-BAGGER AND ADVISING OTHERS TO SELL !!!
Maybe THAT explains why you are so frustrated at CTKH.
Goodluck,
Ceteksevenmillion
HA HA HA ORANGE UNBELIEVABLE
This guy shouldn't have taken your and MIAMI's advise!!!!
The price tripled from OCTOBER 2003
THIS posting you found, clearly proofs that people should not listen to YOU or Miami.
IN OCTOBER 2003 CTKH SHARE PRICE WAS AT AN ALL TIME LOW !!!
HAHAHAHAHA Brutus and Sixtieskid must be your best friends! LOL
Thanks to you and MIAMI they missed a 10-times the pps oppurtunity.
Good luck and thanks for the proof! The charts don't lie!
Ceteksevenmillion.
Il Padrino,
I am not sure about CTKH's developments when it comes to products for Hybrid cars of fuel cells.
Allthough CTKH said: "Cetek Technologies is exploring the potential use of the company's ceramics in fuel cells, as this is an example of another growing industry wherein high grade ceramic material has future commercial application."
BUT
"To change how we power our homes and offices, we will invest more in zero-emission"
Maybe CTKH is already eating a piece of this pei:
"Ceramic Honeycombs are mainly used for the support of catalyst, heat-exchange media and other filtering purposes. As support of catalyst, our honeycombs are used for purifying automotive emissions utilized in exhaust (catalytic converters).
As a filtrate substrate, honeycombs are generally used in food processing, environmental friendly atmospheres, as well as filtering impurities in almost all industries.
As a heat exchange media, honeycombs are mainly utilized in heat recovery units of regenerative thermal oxidizers (RTOs).
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Cetek's ceramic honeycombs clearly have materialized.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Orange,
You said: "1996 $375.00 today .0010"
So what's the upward potential if things go well and CTKH starts reporting?
$ 0,01 ?
$ 0,10 ?
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Bush speaks:
"Tonight, I announce the Advanced Energy Initiative -- a 22 percent increase in clean energy research at the Department of Energy, to push for breakthroughs in two vital areas," Bush said. "To change how we power our homes and offices, we will invest more in zero-emission, coal-fired plants; revolutionary solar and wind technologies; and clean, safe nuclear energy." (Watch the president describe America's 'serious' addiction to oil -- 2:20)
"We will increase our research in better batteries for hybrid and electric cars, and in pollution-free cars that run on hydrogen." (Domestic points)
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Cetek Technologies is exploring the potential use of the company's ceramics in fuel cells, as this is an example of another growing industry wherein high grade ceramic material has future commercial application.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
I found this information on Motorola's website:
Nanotechnology
Researching nanoscale components that can be applied towards advanced Motorola electronic devices and Seamless Mobility. A major focus of the group is to develop chemical sensors based on single-walled carbon nanotubes that can detect a wide range of chemical and biological particles. Another research area is the use of nanotubes and nanowires in both active and passive RF components for communications applications. We also have capabilites to grow carbon nanotubes at low temperatures using them as the ultimate electron emitters to create large low cost thin flat nano emissive displays.
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http://www.motorola.com/content/0,,6582-9298-9303,00.html
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Jo,
I understand you, and you are probably right.
But in the same update (the latest report) about the slight weakness, CTKH also mentioned for the first time: "All production furnaces are running 24/7."
It looks like a controverse. A slight weakness in the revenues, combined with the ALL production furnaces are running 24/7 message? Maybe more sales at a lower price ? Just guessing.
CTKH also mentioned: "We are still on target to have "The Ceramic Store" operational by year end."
As we all know by now, the store is online. Cetek Technologies has no competitors with such an easy online sample store IMO.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Orange, I thought that you were the CTKH guru?
Orange,
You say: "Me personally l dont care if they are or not running 24/7"
A normal business runs from 9:00 till 17:00 o'clock. If Cetek has a 24 hours production, they trippled the production. And in addition to that fact, CTKH reduced the price per product.
So I think thats a huge difference. Running 8 hours per day or 24 hours.
But okay, without the numbers (audited or unaudited) the pps probably will NOT move.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Orange,
I cannot find ONE pressrelease from Cetek Technologies Inc. where "Display Tek" (???) is mentioned. If you can find it, please post it.
Again you call Fayiz Hilal a liar WITHOUT showing proof.
CTKH never mentioned DT, so its a non-issue imo.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Orange,
First you said: "You have a problem reading I said 2 times they were NOT running I am trying to be nice instead of saying no they are not running 24/7 "
Now you say: "As far as going in to see the actual factory the answer is NO I have not been inside because l asked Hilal 2 times to let me back there to look around and he said no."
So NOW you agree that you have NO CLUE about whats going on INSIDE the factory.
Allthough you have NEVER BEEN INSIDE you say that you KNOW that the furnaces are NOT running 24/7. ????
HOW DO YOU KNOW the furnaces are NOT running 24/7 if you never EVER have been inside Cetek Technologies factory ???
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Il Padrino,
Personally, I don't expect a big PR. I hope for the unaudited numbers. But that's day-dreaming.
I do believe that CTKH is making very good progress. I also believe that $ 0,01 must be possible if Fayiz Hilal is able to come up with some breaking news. Is a ten bagger reasonable or possible for CTKH? I think it is.
The current pps looked very undervalued -to me- even at $ 0,0025 BUT I think that shareholders must respect the markets opinion.
If its true that the furnaces (old and new ones combined) are running day and night, CTKH results and future-outlook must be tremendous.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Il Padrino,
I am fine, thanks. Do you like Korean women better than Italian? I think that Italian women are prettier. LOL
Thanks for your advise. I only find it very hypocritical behaviour from Orange. And his conclusion that the furnaces are NOT running 24/7 is based on "drive-by". He has not been inside the factory, so he doesn't have a clue IMO.
My conclusion is based on the most recent official pressrelease from Cetek Technologies Inc. If the company claims that ALL furnaces are running 24/7 I take it to be the truth.
Good luck,
Ceteksevenmillion
Orange,
You are a real good investigator. My compliments! LOL
"I really go to see how many cars and trucks are there to see if they have the 25 employees Hilal and Stock says they do."
LOL !!!
Than you say: "I have never seen more than 15 cars there"
WHAT does your drive-by "count the cars" investigations bring to the table??? ABSOLUTELY NOTHING!!! ITS RUBISH !!!
Than you claim here on the board that you talk with Fayiz Hilal, but you don't dare to call him a LIAR to his face. Instead you prefer to behave like a weasel. When you are nameless behind your PC you try to label Fayiz Hilal as a LIAR on this board.
I think that you NEVER spoke with FH in person, and that makes YOU a LIAR.
And the way I see it, Fayiz Hilal kept word on most subjects. And if he PR's that the furnaces are running 24/7, than I trust it to be true.
I will trust him much more than a sneaky weasel!!!
Bye,
Ctkh7mln.
Orange,
You said: "Hi I just go around maybe once every 3 weeks"
And YOU don't have the courage to walk in just to TALK with Fayiz Hilal !!!
OOOHHH NO!!!!
You sneak behind your computer to post your BS on this board. You dare to call Fayiz Hilal a LIAR when you are behind your anonymous computer. You are a hero. Why don't you tell it to his face???
WHAT A JOKE YOU ARE IMO >>> YOU ARE A WIMP !!!!
Bye!
Ceteksevenmillion