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all we need.
all we need is a judge with enough balls to tell intel sorry boys you realy blew it. its time to pay up.
i'll keep lookig for more articles. my variable speed clocking doesn't work to good on my old computer i need a new one. i only have 64mb of memory and i cannot open alot of files that need atleast 128 or more.
with building a new 4000sq ft house my money has been prioitized if you know what i mean. donations of 50 or 100 dollar bills will be acepted. what i really want is for his stock to make all of us very rich and then we could all meet at he next shareholders meeting and have one heck of a party
i'll keep digging.everyone on this board is positive and does their home work, we shall be rewarded.
elkman
incite101 read this.
search this. (intel variable speed clocking for pentium processors.) you have to type the whole thing in.
read tech reports for pentuim family. from 1999 and before. everyone talks about variable speed clocking to get the gains they needed.
you get the full list of stuff read. micro processor watch.#29 12/22/99 and the tech reports 1,2 ,3 i cannot imagine how ptsc is going to loose this case.
good luck to all.
elkman
court date ?
hey incite i think it should be a matter of public record when the court date is on cae 04cv0439 us district court northern calif.
i was involved in a class action suitt about eight years ago and we new our court dates. i also had the un fortunate pleasure of a small claims court action i took against a contractor. who didn't deliver on what i paid him for. and they always look at the court calender and give a date.
i don't know why a judge would pick the date. just asking the question. beause i don't have all the answers on this stuff.
if you don't ask question you can't learn .
you are right i think this will be russell cap beatie crowning jewel.
hey last night i came across this. i seached how do micro processors work. and came up with this howstuffworks.com
this is a great site has alot of info on everything even intel pentium. and over clocking and speed margining.good place to go for someone how doesn't have a back ground in electronic's
good luck.
elkman
incite101
hey you were asked at ragingbull whow is going to handling ptsc. cases.
i do believe (russell cap beatie) is going to do it. i maybe wrong. did you know he is a author of several miliary books he loves to plan his attack i don't think this could be the biggest case of his career which has spanded over 30years.
so as far as giving it to a junior member i don't think so. they wouldn't have all of ptsc cases plastered all over their web site. if they aren't 100% behind it. they stand to make a hell of alot of money from this.
that would be great advertisment for beatie and osborn sure will take your case and try it for you. but we will on spend 20bucks on legal prep. give me a break.
talked enough
good night.
patent info.
do you know before the pto us patent office grants a patent they first publish it in (the officaial gazette)
so all parties can read what the patent covers . and if nobody objects at that time they will go ahead and grant the patent.
looks like intel never read it. or didn't care. i don't see how they claim that they don't use some form of variable speed clocking in their pentium chips.
i think intel sued ptsc for several reasons, first all 5 customers sony nec and others probably demanded that intel bear the costs of the law suit .
and intel is a giant in the industry they have the power and the money. its just like playing texas holdem,its all about bluffing. who is going to flinch first.
intel could spend millions to defend itself. where as beatie and osborn can make millions.
we will have to see what the judge rules on case 04cv0439 filed feb 2 2004 in us district court in northern calif. on behalf of intel
this is a waiting game for sure. i just saw a article by google seach . they say microsoft is spending a ton of money to try and find loop holes in their patents. it gets to be a game with these big company's they like to push the little guys around.
good luck to all.
elkman
incite101
hey everyone seems to be forgetting something else. that could be big for ptsc. (ultra wide band.) this could and will be next big market in the next few years.
you have certainly been active or at raging bull.
just a litte food for thought. ptsc wins a large settlemet from all quilty parties. and gets alot of sweet lic. contracts. then
china kicks in with a few million in orders, and ultra wide band takes off. oh baby then what do you think.
good luck to all.
elkman
hey incite101
do you get any sleep at night? ever since i told you to look up variable speed clocking. you have been pumped. i don't blame you for that.
i heard it through the grape vine that ptsc turned down 5 trillion plus full ownership of all 5 company's plus all of intel. if i were ptsc i would have jumped on that , then promptly sold off intel because they will become obsolete.
of course what i just wrote is pure bull.
hey keep the boys over at ragingbull honest. i like to read what goes on over there but not really interested in posting there.
good luck. looks like 11 or 12 a good new baseline for ptsc.
elkman
willful and intentional.
key words in the patent infringement case willful and intentional.
go to this legal site. www.ipwatchdog.com
www.ipwatchdog.com/willfull patent infringement
they show you without alot of legalizzzzzzzzzzzzze what ptsc has to prove. for infringment. its really not as much as some people think.
have a nice weekend.
ptsc still in the news.
funny in the uk. it seems to be all the buzz. just read a story by tony smith.
of (the register) www.theregister.co.uk./
it ran on feb 18th. which i couldn't seem to post it.
go find it. they think this won't even get to trial. they believe that this will be settled out of court by all parties.
they seem to believe ptsc has a case and will get paid.
lets hope there right.
boy there sure is a bunch of negative people on the ragingbull board. they can stay over there.
good luck to all.
why did it take so long.
why did it take so long for ptsc to get the variable speed clocking patent.
did ptsc hold it up themselves in the patent office. which some companys have done which they call submarining. which says they waited for he market to catch up with the patnt filed so there would be a big enough market to go after patent infringement cases.
beatie and osborn say they are using the lemelson bar coding cases as a guide. and avoiding the mistakes they made i hope so.
lemelson has collected over 1.5bill in royalities. but thats all coming to a halt. cognex corp had sued lemelson and won a major victory on jan 27th of 2004 with the ruling it makes lemelson patents worthless. all they really were was a bunch of chicken scratches on paper. yet they got company's to pay millions on infringement because they didn't want to go to tral.
if you read up on lemelson he patented his idea's of scanning and bar coding. but his patent never even had the words bar coding in it. he held these patents up for years and tried to change the wording to include bar codes. the patent office rejected that. still company's paid millions
also he never ever made a working product and his patent which they collected 1.5bilion never even showed how it would really work.
ptsc patents clearly state and shown how variable speed clocking works, they have also used this technolgy. if moore and fish not focused so much on making a java chip they would have been major players in the microprocessor market today.
java is finally coming into its own. sun micro said today that there are over a billion devices using java and that number will grow rapidly.
good luck to all
rambus ruling by ftc.
stock soars 9bucks to over 33bucks and change. read the lastest news and take notice who has been sued and who is paying royalties to rambus. i think ptsc has a much cleaner record then rambus atleast they have not been sued or had class action suits file against them. so far anyway.
price target 55dollars for rambus. i don't own rambus but follow it because of the similarity of law suits and patent granted.
there is a story in smart money today which you can get off yahoo quotes. also look at rambus anual sales and were the stock is trading. don't forget for ptsc if they win a few hundred million and get lic. rev. thats all profit boys and girls. that sends the share price soaring.
looks like their time frame of two years to get rulings my well be a rule of thumb for ptsc cases. i would like it to be sooner but probably two years to go to trial.if anyone can say different let me know.
volume today fell of quite a bit on ptsc. stocks trade on news. so it maybe a dry spell for awhile unless one of the big five does the right thing and signs on.
good luck to all.
ptsc buy out.
there might be offers to buy out ptsc. but i don't think ptsc would sell unless the price tag is very high.
this stock has a big upside potential. but like everyone knows its all going to depend on two things.
one of the big five giving in and paying up. which will probbaly happen before trial.
or we go to trial and beat intel. i don't think intel can afford to loose. if they do they will get sued by ever customer that they sell to. (that has ptsc inside.) this could get very nasty all around.
all the big five have to do is start buying up a ton of ptsc shares and what ever damages they have to pay for plus lic.fees will be ofset by the gains they will make on the run up. its almost a win win for them. and don't think this stuff don't happen.
good luck to all.
elkman
where is?
charles h moore these days. i know russell fish 111 has pasted away.
i wonder if he is going to testify on behalf of ptsc if they go to trial.
the news is starting to get out happerier days ahead i do believe.
elkman
incite101
great post on (variable speed clocking.) you had on ragingbull. i hope this board can stay positive. i hate to read a bunch of useless dribble.
if we all do as much digging who knows what we can turn up.
tucci99 has always believed and has done a great deal of d/d on ptsc. and there are a few others
this is probably the last chance for ptsc. if this doesn't work out they won't stay open for much longer.they will still have to sell more shares in the open market to stay open.during the trial for phase. the outstanding amount is still reasonable. 100mill plus really isn't alot for big institutions. they don't like thinly traded stocks
java chips are the next big thin to come and from what jim turley says ptsc has a good product. nobody has quite got it right yet. but ptsc is close.
sun micro is really starting to open the door for java . its been a long time coming.
keep on posting those good ones.
elkman
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rambus vs beatie and osborn.
alot of people are trying to compare ptsc to rambus. ptsc patents could be worth alot more.
rambus does hold some patents. on sdram . they also had alot of class action suits filed against them for false and misleading statements on just how good and far reaching their patents were.
rambus was one of the real high flyers on the nas, back in 1999 it actually had a high of 450 dollars and then a 3 for 1 split. it sells for around 30 plus bucks today. still not bad for the patents they hold. and the current rev they bring in.
beatie and osborn filed a class action against rambus in 2001 on behalf of a teachers pension fund. took about 2 years to go through the whole prcess and they won then got it over turned by appeal. in 2003. also they found out that rambus had stolen the tech. on the (sdram) they said they had owned and patented when they really didn't. in other words they hyped the stock to shareholders. old pump and dump
what i'am gettng at is. i don't think beatie and osborn would open themselves up to any kind of leagal action if they don't firmly believe that ptsc has a rock solid patent infringement case. hey stranger things can happen and they could get zip for all their efforts. but i don't think so.
another thing that is amazing is the language intel used. saying they don't think that they are infringing. read some of there cases that have been filled gainst intel and their jumping up and down and swearing on a stack of bibles that they did no wrong and so on. very amazing stuff.
what we need is a court date. and a judge to throw out intels suit against ptsc. if that happens which it should because the court cannot deny ptsc their right to defend their patent.
then ptsc stock price will take off.
beatie and osborn have the power and experience to really put the pressure on all parties involved.
good luck to all.
INCITE101
your right on the money with your d/d
and like i posted ptsc doesn't hve to prove that everybody in the world used 100% of their patent they only have to prove that they infringed even on a small scale.
the rewards would still be large.
i would love to be at the trial.
i would ask intel. did you design variable speed clocking? where did you get the idea from to use variable speed clocking? why didn't you patent it if you felt it was the foundation of your pentium processors?
did you ever ck with te patent office if there whas a patent on this or a patent pending of vairable speed clocking?
they new it all along. they were betting the patent would never go through. and they figured ptsc wouldn't have the money to do battle in court over patent infringement, because it can cost millions to bring this kind of action to trial.
its just a matter of time. they all know it.
i see www.bandolaw has ptsc all over their web site the word will get out. its already flying all around the industry.
keep up the god work.
patent infringement.
ptsc must prove to to court that all these company's infringed. and (they )will all try to prove that they didn't copy 100% of ptsc patented (variable spped clocking.) 336
ptsc doesn't have to prove 100% infringement.
all they have prove is DOCTRINE OF EQUIVALANTS
which says that it is funamental that one cannot avoid infringement merely by addng elements. if each element recited in the claims is found in the accused device. like intels products.
ptsc should win money and lic. deals out of these lawsuits but the queston is how long till they really get to go to trial. could be years. i hope not.
good luck to all
intel variable speed clocking.
if you look this up you will see that intel has openly used variable speed clocking on their processors. funny they never claimed to have invented it . or patent it.
then suddenly in 1999 they developed what they call speed step. which is the same basic thing. and they say they developed this . no claim of a patent to protect this key fundamental processing that is the heart of all their processors.
we know why. and they do also. ptsc had a patent pending on this tech. for years it got held up for ever in legal battles and the patent office dragging their feet.
i don't think intel ever thought that ptsc would ever get this patent awarded to them.
intel has been sued many times before for infringement and has lost in court and also settled cases, out of court.
how about someone doing a little home work on patents and see what intel holds. all these big company's love to steal tech. microsoft is the biggest thief.
good luck to all longs.